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Johnny Lunchbucket Oct 31 2020 05:43 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 31 2020 06:52 PM

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batmagadanleadoff Oct 31 2020 06:18 PM Re: Name this Met

I think his name is "image".

Johnny Lunchbucket Oct 31 2020 06:24 PM Re: Name this Met

Yeah I need to fix this but for some reason I can't. Does anyone have a cool photo sharing site? Flickr sucks, google doesn't give me jpgs I can link to

batmagadanleadoff Oct 31 2020 06:37 PM Re: Name this Met Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 31 2020 06:42 PM

I use Flickr. The free version. It's gotten steadily worse over the years. Ads and more ads when there used to be none. And constant reminders to upgrade to a paid version to eliminate the ads, which, to tell you the truth, aren't much of a nuisance. Limits on the number of photos you can host when there used to be no limit when I first began using it. But it gets the job done. It works if all you wanna do is host a photo to post to a web site. Like this one. That's all I use it for. There are a host of other options and features to interact with other users but I have no idea about that or how it works.

batmagadanleadoff Oct 31 2020 06:40 PM Re: Name this Met

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=49455 time=1604191076 user_id=68] I use Flickr. The free version. It's gotten steadily worse over the years. Ads and more ads when there used to be none. And constant reminders to upgrade to a paid version to eliminate the ads, which, to tell you the truth, aren't much of a nuisance. Limits on the number of photos you can host when there used to be no limit when I first began using it. But it gets the job done. It works if all you wanna do is host a photo to post to a web site. Like this one. That's all I use it for. There are a host of other options and features to interact with other users but I have no idea about that or how it works.

Maybe you can describe the photo of this Met. What era or year uniform is he wearing? Or is it impossible to tell from the photo? Road or home? Or maybe civvies. Mustache? Eyeglasses? Caucasian? African-American? Something else? Is there a uniform number in the photo? If so, that would be a dead giveaway, I suppose.

Johnny Lunchbucket Oct 31 2020 06:44 PM Re: Name this Met

I uploaded the fuckin thing to flickr but impossible to share using my phone/the flickr app. I'll deal with is in 15 minutes when I get back to the desktop

batmagadanleadoff Oct 31 2020 06:45 PM Re: Name this Met

It's probably a head-shot, something like from the neck up, right?

Johnny Lunchbucket Oct 31 2020 06:45 PM Re: Name this Met

Agree flickr sucks now. But so does google photos. It's a total action shot

batmagadanleadoff Oct 31 2020 06:46 PM Re: Name this Met

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: I uploaded the fuckin thing to flickr but impossible to share using my phone/the flickr app. I'll deal with is in 15 minutes when I get back to the desktop Yeah. I try to stay away from working with photos on the smartphone. Hosting. Posting them here. It's a nightmare, if it even works. Same with posting links to articles.

Johnny Lunchbucket Oct 31 2020 06:49 PM Re: Name this Met

I can upload to my website I guess

Johnny Lunchbucket Oct 31 2020 06:52 PM Re: Name this Met

See1st post

batmagadanleadoff Oct 31 2020 06:56 PM Re: Name this Met

Chris Carter - the smart RA Dickey era one year outfielder seeking a medical degree on the side and who threw like a girl. Worst Met throwing arm I ever saw. Worse even than Mazzilli.

Johnny Lunchbucket Oct 31 2020 07:04 PM Re: Name this Met

You win. Double in his first met AB driving in winning run in 8th inning 6-run rally in a game that ended on an Ike Davis dive into the dugout. When they showed him in the dugout waiting to get his first Met AB I assumed he was a guy who never even appeared for them. I had almost no memory. "The Animal" Twas tonight's "Met Classick"

Edgy MD Oct 31 2020 09:45 PM Re: Name this Met

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=49464 time=1604192218 user_id=68] Chris Carter - the smart RA Dickey era one year outfielder seeking a medical degree on the side and who threw like a girl. Worst Met throwing arm I ever saw. Worse even than Mazzilli.

That's a good topic for a thread. Did Mazzilli's get worse as his career progressed, or was it just consistently weak?



Mookie threw real poorly for a year or two after an injury too, but his arm came back to something serviceable. I don't remember Mazz ever even really being that. He and Mookie after him were both fantastic ballhawks, but with chicken wings for arms.



Bernard Gilkey's was pretty bad, too.

Johnny Lunchbucket Oct 31 2020 10:14 PM Re: Name this Met

For some reason I can't find the IGT but here are Thoughts on the Game http://archives.thecranepool.net/13800/f1_t13838.shtml

batmagadanleadoff Oct 31 2020 10:44 PM Re: Name this Met Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 01 2020 04:43 PM

Edgy MD wrote: =batmagadanleadoff post_id=49464 time=1604192218 user_id=68] Chris Carter - the smart RA Dickey era one year outfielder seeking a medical degree on the side and who threw like a girl. Worst Met throwing arm I ever saw. Worse even than Mazzilli. That's a good topic for a thread. Did Mazzilli's get worse as his career progressed, or was it just consistently weak?

Always awful, as far as I remember. Couldn't throw it hard, couldn't throw it for distance, and couldn't throw it on a line. Maz's throws were rainbows that came in like soft infield pop-ups. And from moderately deep center field, he couldn't reach the infield on less than three bounces. Runners took the extra base and tagged up on him pretty much at will. And if the ball was hit to deep-center, they'd even tag up first to second, especially if Maz had to catch the ball while running away from second base.



How come you don't remember this? Maz was an every-day player and while Torre was managing, was the team's most featured player.

whippoorwill Nov 01 2020 05:45 AM Re: Name this Met

Mostly cos he was billed as ambidextrous so that was the thing instead of ‘weak-armed'

Johnny Lunchbucket Nov 01 2020 05:55 AM Re: Name this Met

I didn't really pick up on subtleties like that when I was a kid. I know Max's arm wasn't exactly subtle, but if the announcers weren't telling that I might not have noticed I feel like my aesthetic sense as a fan is only coming out in these last 10 years. To an extent, watching how guys do what they do replaced whatever died in me when they destroyed Shea

Edgy MD Nov 01 2020 06:57 AM Re: Name this Met

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=49471 time=1604205850 user_id=68]How come you don't remember this? Maz was an every-day player and while Torre was managing, was the team's most featured player.

Oh, I remember it. But I figured whether it was consistently weak or went from bad to worse was an open question.



Knocking Staub of of first was a kick in the gut to the Mets' offense, and was a real blow to Staub's Hall of Fame prospects.

G-Fafif Nov 01 2020 08:15 AM Re: Name this Met

Real Time with Chris Carter.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 01 2020 10:35 AM Re: Name this Met Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Nov 01 2020 04:40 PM

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: I didn't really pick up on subtleties like that when I was a kid. I know Max's arm wasn't exactly subtle, but if the announcers weren't telling that I might not have noticed I feel like my aesthetic sense as a fan is only coming out in these last 10 years. To an extent, watching how guys do what they do replaced whatever died in me when they destroyed Shea From the SABR Bio Project: There was some irony in the fact that the Most Valuable Player Award in the [1979 All-Star] game went not to Mazzilli but to Dave Parker, whose powerful arm in right field gunned down AL rivals at third base and home during the contest. It underscored the one major flaw in Mazzilli's game. The joke with Mazzilli – one repeated by the Mets' former chairman M. Donald Grant in a 1979 Sports Illustrated article – was that he could throw with either arm but neither one was strong enough for the major leagues. Although Mazzilli worked hard to overcome this weakness – he eschewed the basket catch with men on base, and took to charging fly balls to get in good throwing position – opponents were never afraid to take an extra base and test his arm. After Keith Hernandez tagged up to score the winning run on a shallow fly ball to Mazzilli in center field in a 1983 game, the slow-footed Cardinals player remarked that Mazzilli was “the only guy I would attempt to score against [on such a play] in the big leagues.” Mazzilli's throwing woes, along with a trade of Willie Montanez to Texas, had the Mets begin experimenting with playing Mazzilli at first base late in the 1979 season – the one place where throwing left-handed would have been an advantage. The organization also knew the day was coming when it would have to make room for a young center fielder then at Triple-A Tidewater, Mookie Wilson. Mazzilli, who once said he was “born to play center field,” framed his willingness to make the move as a sign of his respect for Torre. “If Torre stays as manager, I'm willing to make the change,” he said. “If he wants it and he's here, I'll go to [Instructional League in] Florida and work out there for as long as he wants me to.” This article was written by Jon Springer https://sabr.org/bioproj/person/lee-mazzilli/

Johnny Lunchbucket Nov 01 2020 12:13 PM Re: Name this Met

I have no idea what I'm trying to say in the above quote. Phones suck

batmagadanleadoff Nov 01 2020 12:46 PM Re: Name this Met Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Nov 01 2020 02:23 PM

That Keith Hernandez quote is something else. Players don't go around publicly saying stuff like. That stays in the locker room. Even today, with the internet and all of the social media that didn't exist during Keith's playing days.

G-Fafif Nov 01 2020 01:18 PM Re: Name this Met

I went to a game in 1980 that I've always remembered for Mazzilli making the kind of weak throw that illustrated what everybody meant by denigrating his throwing arm. Motivated by the turn this thread took, I looked up the game and I had my impression inverted and memory refreshed. Mazzilli was thrown out trying to score from second on a strong throw from right, confirming the criticism that he wasn't that great a baserunner, either. https://timesmachine.nytimes.com/timesmachine/1980/08/21/121007589.pdf

Johnny Lunchbucket Nov 01 2020 02:15 PM Re: Name this Met

Amazinly, it was only days after that Hernandez play that the Pirates traded with the Mets for AAA outfielder Marvel Wynne and made Wynne their regular CFer right away

Edgy MD Nov 01 2020 06:13 PM Re: Name this Met

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=49505 time=1604260015 user_id=68] That Keith Hernandez quote is something else. Players don't go around publicly saying stuff like. That stays in the locker room.

Yeah, but Keef.

G-Fafif Nov 01 2020 07:54 PM Re: Name this Met

I'd like the Keith of 2020 who called out Fernando Tatis, Jr., for swinging 3-and-0 with the bases loaded a seven-run lead as being "disrespectful" of an opponent to reckon the Keith of "hey, everybody, Mazzilli's got a rag for an arm!"

batmagadanleadoff Nov 02 2020 01:31 AM Re: Name this Met

Edgy MD wrote: =batmagadanleadoff post_id=49505 time=1604260015 user_id=68] That Keith Hernandez quote is something else. Players don't go around publicly saying stuff like. That stays in the locker room. Yeah, but Keef.

The Cardinal and the Pirate would end up as Mets teammates a few years later. You think Maz remembered? (Of course he did.)

Johnny Lunchbucket Nov 02 2020 05:18 AM Re: Name this Met

I went and found this game. It was the Pirates home opener of 83, so not immediately before the Wynne trade. Keith's collision with Tony Pena made all the papers, and he had a mouthful to say after the game including chatting up his own glovework. hard to believe the Cardinals would trade him for Neil Allen in just 8 weeks. https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/PIT/PIT198304120.shtml http://www.beta.mbtn.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Keith2-Newspapers-com.png> http://www.beta.mbtn.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Kieth1-1.png> Being in Pittsburgh in 83, he was probably all coked up.

whippoorwill Nov 02 2020 06:50 AM Re: Name this Met

Heh Tony Pena, my son's namesake

batmagadanleadoff Nov 02 2020 11:03 AM Re: Name this Met

Keith Hernandez wrote: "That's as tough a pick as I'll ever have. But I'll make that more than anybody else." and Keith Hernandez wrote: "He's the only guy I would run on, the only guy I would attempt to score on in the whole league" _____________ I'll say this much: Keith told the truth here.