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IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Frayed Knot Nov 03 2020 03:30 PM

I'm going into radio silence for the next couple of hours, but I couldn't bear the thought of real time progress reports and comments getting lost in the never-ending Politics thread. I'll join later tonight ... at least if I'm not under the couch sobbing.

Fman99 Nov 03 2020 06:15 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

I'm watching CNN and absorbing everything in as much of a blue slant as I can. Four beers in.

Lefty Specialist Nov 03 2020 06:18 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Florida looks like it'll go for Trump, so screw them.

whippoorwill Nov 03 2020 06:19 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs up Biden

I had a bottle of Catawba. I'm relying on you guys for national results because I'm also heavily involved in my local state rep challenge so I'll be on a local news feed

ashie62 Nov 03 2020 06:36 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

What's up with Virginia?

A Boy Named Seo Nov 03 2020 06:39 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

John King is a county demographic ninja. I'm nervous and need another beer. Also fuck Florida.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2020 06:40 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

=ashie62 post_id=49690 time=1604453766 user_id=90] What's up with Virginia?

Catholic girls start much too late.

A Boy Named Seo Nov 03 2020 06:55 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Seriously, wtf is up with Virginia

Fman99 Nov 03 2020 06:58 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

If Biden leads hold in NC and OH, he can lose FL and GA and still have a 99+% chance of winning (sez 538.com).

A Boy Named Seo Nov 03 2020 07:05 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

I wanna fan boi over Nate Silver again

Edgy MD Nov 03 2020 07:18 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Who was the asshole who told us that Georgia was up for grabs.

Frayed Knot Nov 03 2020 07:18 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

9:15, just recently tuned in. Mildly optimistic based on what I see in the opening minutes. First vodka went down well.

A Boy Named Seo Nov 03 2020 07:22 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Edgy MD wrote: Who was the asshole who told us that Georgia was up for grabs. Was clearly a conspiracy theory. That new Q congresswoman will get to the bottom of it, I'm sure

Edgy MD Nov 03 2020 07:28 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Trump campaign officials concerned about Georgia, Michigan and Wisconsin From CNN's Jim Acosta Trump campaign officials are concerned about the crucial battleground states of Georgia, Michigan, and Wisconsin — but are feeling better about Florida, a senior Trump adviser said. "Georgia could be an issue," the adviser said, pointing to huge vote totals from urban voters in the state. Michigan may be gone, the adviser said. Wisconsin is "TBD," according to the adviser. Georgia's still looking iffy for the big guy? I'm seeing Biden getting creamed. Have we just not counted Democratic strongholds there?

ashie62 Nov 03 2020 07:33 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Fulton County delayed. Water pipe broke somewhere, really Still...

Fman99 Nov 03 2020 07:36 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Ugh, tightening up in NC. Stupid hayseeds.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 03 2020 07:37 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Edgy MD wrote: Trump campaign officials concerned about Georgia, Michigan and Wisconsin From CNN's Jim Acosta Trump campaign officials are concerned about the crucial battleground states of Georgia, Michigan, and Wisconsin — but are feeling better about Florida, a senior Trump adviser said. "Georgia could be an issue," the adviser said, pointing to huge vote totals from urban voters in the state. Michigan may be gone, the adviser said. Wisconsin is "TBD," according to the adviser. Georgia's still looking iffy for the big guy? I'm seeing Biden getting creamed. Have we just not counted Democratic strongholds there? Trump's up by 16 points with 40% of the GA vote in, very little in from Atlanta and Fulton Cty.

nymr83 Nov 03 2020 07:37 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

=ashie62 post_id=49701 time=1604457193 user_id=90] Fulton County delayed. Water pipe broke somewhere, really Still...

at the sport arena actually, which was being used as an election site

batmagadanleadoff Nov 03 2020 07:38 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

I'm starting to worry and Trump himself has been quiet tonight, not making any trouble yet.

ashie62 Nov 03 2020 07:41 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

This is starting to suck.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 03 2020 07:47 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Edgy MD wrote: Trump campaign officials concerned about Georgia, Michigan and Wisconsin From CNN's Jim Acosta Trump campaign officials are concerned about the crucial battleground states of Georgia, Michigan, and Wisconsin — but are feeling better about Florida, a senior Trump adviser said. "Georgia could be an issue," the adviser said, pointing to huge vote totals from urban voters in the state. Michigan may be gone, the adviser said. Wisconsin is "TBD," according to the adviser. Georgia's still looking iffy for Georgia? I'm seeing Biden getting creamed. Have we just not counted Democratic strongholds there? Trump's up by 16 points with 40% of the GA vote in, very little in from Atlanta and Fulton Cty. 14 points up with 44% in.

whippoorwill Nov 03 2020 07:55 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

???I'm seeing 131 to 92 on the AP page

Johnny Lunchbucket Nov 03 2020 07:56 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Yeah I don't like this

Frayed Knot Nov 03 2020 08:03 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Not quite sure why the early vote = Biden, day-of-vote = Trump is being treated as if fact.

ashie62 Nov 03 2020 08:13 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

City people voted early? Looking fugly.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 03 2020 08:15 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

If Trump wins Florida, Georgia and North Carolina, Arizona becomes a crucial, almost must-win state for Biden.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 03 2020 08:22 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Nov 03 2020 08:33 PM

Edgy MD wrote: Trump campaign officials concerned about Georgia, Michigan and Wisconsin From CNN's Jim Acosta Trump campaign officials are concerned about the crucial battleground states of Georgia, Michigan, and Wisconsin — but are feeling better about Florida, a senior Trump adviser said. "Georgia could be an issue," the adviser said, pointing to huge vote totals from urban voters in the state. Michigan may be gone, the adviser said. Wisconsin is "TBD," according to the adviser. Georgia's still looking iffy for Georgia? I'm seeing Biden getting creamed. Have we just not counted Democratic strongholds there? Trump's up by 16 points with 40% of the GA vote in, very little in from Atlanta and Fulton Cty. 14 points up with 44% in. 12 up in GA with 56% in. And it's official: The GOP takes back Doug Jones's now former Alabama US Senate seat.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 03 2020 08:24 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

So Trump's up in Florida, Georgia, Michigan, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Texas and Wisconsin. Can Biden win if these leads hold up? And I think NBC just called the House of Representatives for the Democrats.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 03 2020 08:28 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 03 2020 08:55 PM

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=49715 time=1604460285 user_id=68] So Trump's up in Florida, Georgia, Michigan, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Texas and Wisconsin. Can Biden win if these leads hold up?

Answer: No! Trump wins 293-245 -- and that's with Arizona in the Biden column.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 03 2020 08:41 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 03 2020 08:50 PM

REASON TO BE OPTIMISTIC: Hardly any votes from Philadelphia and Milwaukee are in. And Biden will likely win the election if he holds on to Arizona and wins any two of the following states: Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio, Pennsylvania and North Carolina.

whippoorwill Nov 03 2020 08:43 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

I hope the hell you're right about Philly

Chad ochoseis Nov 03 2020 08:45 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

It doesn't sound like Michigan and Wisconsin have representative samples yet. And he's close in Ohio considering the areas that haven't been counted yet. Arizona is huge. Michigan+Wisconsin+Arizona = 269. One more vote from anywhere, including northern Maine or Omaha, and the nightmare ends.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 03 2020 08:45 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

=whippoorwill post_id=49718 time=1604461421 user_id=79] I hope the hell you're right about Philly

The state said it won't count any more votes from Philly until tomorrow.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 03 2020 08:47 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 03 2020 09:15 PM

Chad ochoseis wrote: It doesn't sound like Michigan and Wisconsin have representative samples yet. And he's close in Ohio considering the areas that haven't been counted yet. Michigan -- Trump +11.4 points/37% in Wisconsin -- Trump +2.1 points/39% in

Frayed Knot Nov 03 2020 08:48 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

If this early vote thing is true it sounds like things bode well for Biden in several states ... but I hate having to rely on that.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 03 2020 08:48 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 03 2020 09:15 PM

Chad ochoseis wrote: It doesn't sound like Michigan and Wisconsin have representative samples yet. And he's close in Ohio considering the areas that haven't been counted yet. Michigan -- Trump +11.4 points/37% in Wisconsin -- Trump +2.1 points/39% in Ohio -- Trump +6.8 points/82% in

Chad ochoseis Nov 03 2020 08:52 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Last account I noticed from CNN was that Detroit and Milwaukee counts were lagging, as well as the early vote count in Ohio. And he was doing well in the Ohio regions that correlate well with Pennsylvania. I am worrying, though.

Edgy MD Nov 03 2020 08:54 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Lindsay Graham up by eight points. Good news is sleeping late this evening.

Chad ochoseis Nov 03 2020 08:57 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Oh, yeah. They called SC for him a while back. But it sucks that it wasn't close.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 03 2020 09:00 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Chad ochoseis wrote: It doesn't sound like Michigan and Wisconsin have representative samples yet. And he's close in Ohio considering the areas that haven't been counted yet. Michigan -- Trump +11.4%/37% in Wisconsin -- Trump +2.1%/39% in Ohio -- Trump +6.8%/82% in Trump extends his lead in Ohio to 7.3% with 84% in.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 03 2020 09:01 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 03 2020 09:14 PM

Chad ochoseis wrote: It doesn't sound like Michigan and Wisconsin have representative samples yet. And he's close in Ohio considering the areas that haven't been counted yet. Michigan -- Trump +11.4 points/37% in Wisconsin -- Trump +2.1 points/39% in Ohio -- Trump +6.8 points/82% in Trump extends his lead in Ohio to 7.3 points with 84% in

Edgy MD Nov 03 2020 09:08 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

A single swing state would mean a lot.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 03 2020 09:10 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 03 2020 09:14 PM

Chad ochoseis wrote: It doesn't sound like Michigan and Wisconsin have representative samples yet. And he's close in Ohio considering the areas that haven't been counted yet. Michigan -- Trump +11.4 points/37% in Wisconsin -- Trump +2.1 points/39% in Ohio -- Trump +6.8 points/82% in Trump extends his lead in Ohio to 7.3 points with 84% in Trump extends his lead in Ohio to 7.6 points with 85% in

Edgy MD Nov 03 2020 09:12 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

CNN has Vice President Biden with 192 EVs in hand, now that the West Coast is in. Problem is that, with 78 votes still needed, not a lot of confident Democratic territory is waiting to come in. Give him Hawaii and he needs 74. Make an assumption about Minnesota, and you're down to 64. Where are the rest coming from?

batmagadanleadoff Nov 03 2020 09:13 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Biden is up in Iowa, a 2106 Trump state, up by 8 points with 53% of the vote in.

whippoorwill Nov 03 2020 09:15 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=49720 time=1604461558 user_id=68] =whippoorwill post_id=49718 time=1604461421 user_id=79] I hope the hell you're right about Philly

The state said it won't count any more votes from Philly until tomorrow.


Geez

batmagadanleadoff Nov 03 2020 09:18 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Chad ochoseis wrote: It doesn't sound like Michigan and Wisconsin have representative samples yet. And he's close in Ohio considering the areas that haven't been counted yet. Michigan -- Trump +11.4 points/37% in Wisconsin -- Trump +2.1 points/39% in Ohio -- Trump +6.8 points/82% in Trump extends his lead in Ohio to 7.3 points with 84% in Trump extends his lead in Ohio to 7.6 points with 85% in Trump extends his lead in Ohio to 7.7 points with 86% in

Chad ochoseis Nov 03 2020 09:23 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

CBS says Ohio is now "leaning Trump". It's really all about Michigan and Wisconsin. And I think they've only counted about a third of Milwaukee. In the Senate, they've called Colorado, Iowa looks good, NC doesn't, and Maine is too early to tell.

Edgy MD Nov 03 2020 09:31 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Senate currently at 45-44, Elephants.

nymr83 Nov 03 2020 09:32 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

I told you all to watch FOX but you didn't listen. FOX just became first to call Arizona for Biden. you may all rest easy now.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 03 2020 09:38 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Edgy MD wrote: Senate currently at 45-44, Elephants. It's looking like the Dems will have, at best, a razor thin margin in the Senate, if they even get a majority. And with Manchin and some moderate Dem senators in there, Biden's gonna have a tough presidency should he win.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 03 2020 09:40 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Edgy MD wrote: Senate currently at 45-44, Elephants. It's looking like the Dems will have, at best, a razor thin margin in the Senate, if they even get a majority. And with Manchin and some moderate Dem senators in there, Biden's gonna have a tough presidency should he win. Which I'll take over the other guy, natch.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 03 2020 09:43 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 03 2020 09:46 PM

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=49732 time=1604463219 user_id=68] Biden is up in Iowa, a 2106 Trump state, up by 8 points with 53% of the vote in.

And Trump is now back up in Iowa, which won't make a difference. Biden still needs to win two out of these five states -- Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Ohio or North Carolina, with Ohio looking bleaker every time I check.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 03 2020 09:45 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 03 2020 09:46 PM

I need a break. This is dreadful and too suspenseful with so much at stake. It's Tuesday, so lemme check and see who's on the menu at Faith and Fear's A Man for all Seasons series.

whippoorwill Nov 03 2020 09:46 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

You mentioned Wisconsin twice :(

batmagadanleadoff Nov 03 2020 09:46 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

=whippoorwill post_id=49742 time=1604465163 user_id=79] You mentioned Wisconsin twice :(

Fixed. North Carolina.

Johnny Lunchbucket Nov 03 2020 09:50 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

I didn't come here to get these bleak updates.

Edgy MD Nov 03 2020 09:51 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Loudon County, VA precinct numbers from in-person voting today look like Trump was +13, but the actual county totals are Biden +24. I hope that bodes ill for the prezzy.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 03 2020 09:51 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: I didn't come here to get these bleak updates. Biden wins New York State. 29 electoral votes!!!!!!

Frayed Knot Nov 03 2020 09:54 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

CNN calls Virginia for Biden

whippoorwill Nov 03 2020 09:54 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=49743 time=1604465211 user_id=68] =whippoorwill post_id=49742 time=1604465163 user_id=79] You mentioned Wisconsin twice :(

Fixed. North Carolina.


Good I was afraid there really were only four

whippoorwill Nov 03 2020 09:56 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

I'm seeing 209-119 Biden where I'm watching

batmagadanleadoff Nov 03 2020 09:59 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 03 2020 10:07 PM

=whippoorwill post_id=49748 time=1604465682 user_id=79] =batmagadanleadoff post_id=49743 time=1604465211 user_id=68] =whippoorwill post_id=49742 time=1604465163 user_id=79] You mentioned Wisconsin twice :(

Fixed. North Carolina.


Good I was afraid there really were only four


Three. Looks like Trump's gonna win Ohio and NC.



We won't know how Michigan, Wisconsin and Pensylvania voted until at least tomorrow, PA maybe not until Friday. But if the other states hold, Biden's gotta win two of those three: Trump's running the table. And Trump is up in all three.



Michigan up 10.6 points --- 48% in

Wisconsin up 4.8 points --- 61% in

Pennsylvania up14.4 points --- 51% in

Frayed Knot Nov 03 2020 10:00 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

=whippoorwill post_id=49749 time=1604465760 user_id=79] I'm seeing 209-119 Biden where I'm watching

But he's losing in Penn, Wisconsin, Mich, NC, FLA, and Ohio

whippoorwill Nov 03 2020 10:04 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Yeah. I'm sick about PA Again.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 03 2020 10:04 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Looks like Biden's gonna need the votes counted over the rest of the week to win -- the very thing that Trump's set up a war machine to contest, not to mention the courts in his hip pocket.

whippoorwill Nov 03 2020 10:05 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Yeah. I'm sick about PA Again.

Frayed Knot Nov 03 2020 10:05 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Looks like Biden needs to win two of PA, MI, & WI

Edgy MD Nov 03 2020 10:17 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Minnesota called for Biden. Thank you, Hüsker Dü contingent.

Edgy MD Nov 03 2020 10:22 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Trump being called in Ohio. I'm HUGELY disappointed in Devo.

Edgy MD Nov 03 2020 10:23 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Fuck me. Iowa.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 03 2020 10:24 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=49750 time=1604465968 user_id=68] =whippoorwill post_id=49748 time=1604465682 user_id=79] =batmagadanleadoff post_id=49743 time=1604465211 user_id=68] =whippoorwill post_id=49742 time=1604465163 user_id=79] You mentioned Wisconsin twice :(

Fixed. North Carolina.


Good I was afraid there really were only four


Three. Looks like Trump's gonna win Ohio and NC.



We won't know how Michigan, Wisconsin and Pensylvania voted until at least tomorrow, PA maybe not until Friday. But if the other states hold, Biden's gotta win two of those three: Trump's running the table. And Trump is up in all three.



Michigan up 10.6 points --- 48% in

Wisconsin up 4.8 points --- 61% in

Pennsylvania up 14.4 points --- 51% in


Biden shaves a bit of Trump's lead in MI and PA



Michigan up 9.8 points --- 52% in

Wisconsin up 4.9 points --- 67% in

Pennsylvania up 13.1 points --- 58% in

Edgy MD Nov 03 2020 10:24 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Bidey speaking at 12:30.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 03 2020 10:26 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

This was supposed to be either a Biden landslide or an election Biden would win by taking just one of MI, WI or PA. How could the polls be so off twice now with this same scumbag? Tell me the Russians aren't screwing with the vote counts. Go ahead.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 03 2020 10:28 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Edgy MD wrote: Bidey speaking at 12:30. He better not do or say anything even remotely wimpy.

whippoorwill Nov 03 2020 10:38 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

What is he speaking about? I can't even imagine

Edgy MD Nov 03 2020 10:39 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

I think he'll say something along the line of "I'm going to bed. I really don't want to wake up to reports of riots."

Edgy MD Nov 03 2020 10:42 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Senator Joni Ernst holds on. Worst landslide ever.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 03 2020 10:49 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Edgy MD wrote: Senator Joni Ernst holds on. Worst landslide ever. I can top that. Susan Collins is up by almost 16 points with 33% of the vote in. And Trump is expected to declare victory soon.

nymr83 Nov 03 2020 10:52 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Edgy MD wrote: Bidey speaking at 12:30. He better not do or say anything even remotely wimpy. he said things look good and we need to count all the votes, he "expects" to win - it was all a pretty fair statement i think - not weak but not Trumpy. what i'm reading is that he feels Gore acted weak in 2000 by staying silent and he didnt want to do the same

Edgy MD Nov 03 2020 10:56 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

He's tweeting that they're going to try to throw out votes. I don't care. I'm going to bed and Vice President Biden still hasn't flipped a state. Good night.

nymr83 Nov 03 2020 11:01 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Edgy MD wrote: He's tweeting that they're going to try to throw out votes. I don't care. I'm going to bed and Vice President Biden still hasn't flipped a state. Good night. Arizona

batmagadanleadoff Nov 03 2020 11:05 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Edgy MD wrote: He's tweeting that they're going to try to throw out votes. I don't care. I'm going to bed and Vice President Biden still hasn't flipped a state. Good night. Arizona flipped.

Chad ochoseis Nov 03 2020 11:11 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

One detail that can matter: with 96% of the vote counted, Biden is ahead in Douglas County, Nebraska by 11 points. In 2016, Clinton carried it by 2. This means things are looking good for picking up the swing congressional district electoral vote. That plus Michigan, Wisconsin, and no major upsets in other blue states gives Biden the election. Without Pennsylvania. And the totals in Michigan and Wisconsin aren't meaningful yet given the lag in counting the major metros.

ashie62 Nov 04 2020 04:34 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Wisconsin. Biden up by 8000 at 6:30 Michigan and PA still grinding.

ashie62 Nov 04 2020 05:13 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Michigan close to blue at the 89% pole.

Lefty Specialist Nov 04 2020 05:20 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop taking amphetamines.

duan Nov 04 2020 05:49 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

this is just not fun at all.

ashie62 Nov 04 2020 05:56 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

If Michigan and Wisconsin go/stay blue and giving up the two one pointers elsewhere you get, 269-269

Edgy MD Nov 04 2020 06:06 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Edgy MD wrote: He's tweeting that they're going to try to throw out votes. I don't care. I'm going to bed and Vice President Biden still hasn't flipped a state. Good night. Arizona =batmagadanleadoff post_id=49770 time=1604469919 user_id=68] Edgy MD wrote: He's tweeting that they're going to try to throw out votes. I don't care. I'm going to bed and Vice President Biden still hasn't flipped a state. Good night. Arizona flipped.

This morning, many outlets still aren't calling Arizona, for whatever reason.



It looks like Virginia flipped big overnight, an hopefully that sets a nice precedent for the upper midwest states.

Lefty Specialist Nov 04 2020 06:23 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Supposedly the mail in ballots in PA skew incredibly heavily blue. So even though Trump's ahead by quite a bit, it may not last. But taking AZ, NV, WI and MI gets Biden to 270 even without Pennsylvania. (He won the NE-2 congressional EV)

Edgy MD Nov 04 2020 06:58 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

If Arizona ends up the difference-maker, then Senator McCain gets the last laugh.

Lefty Specialist Nov 04 2020 07:14 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

What worries me is that after all of the lies, corruption, idiocy and incompetence, MORE people will have voted for Trump in 2020 than voted for him in 2016. There's something broken with America, and I don't know how we fix it. Biden may win (not a given) but he'll be totally hamstrung. There's a lot the executive can do (or undo). But not taking the Senate is a killer.

Johnny Lunchbucket Nov 04 2020 07:29 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Taking out Trump is job one, let's worry about the rest of it later

whippoorwill Nov 04 2020 08:08 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

I swear NC hasn't changed in 12hours

batmagadanleadoff Nov 04 2020 08:10 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: Taking out Trump is job one, let's worry about the rest of it later He's not going away even if he loses. Hell still exert tremendous influence over the party and torture Biden from the sidelines. And health willing, he'll run again in 2024. If he's not in jail.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 04 2020 08:16 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=49761 time=1604467602 user_id=68] This was supposed to be either a Biden landslide or an election Biden would win by taking just one of MI, WI or PA. How could the polls be so off twice now with this same scumbag? Tell me the Russians aren't screwing with the vote counts. Go ahead.

There was some serious speculation on MSNBC in the late hours about vote tampering with the polls so off again and with 2020 polling supposedly so sophisticated.

whippoorwill Nov 04 2020 08:30 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: Taking out Trump is job one, let's worry about the rest of it later He's not going away even if he loses. Hell still exert tremendous influence over the party and torture Biden from the sidelines. And health willing, he'll run again in 2024. If he's not in jail. As long as he's not prez, I'll take it

Chad ochoseis Nov 04 2020 08:34 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

The county level results make me feel pretty good. Most of the uncounted votes in NV, WI, and MI are from urban areas. And Biden outperformed Hillary just about everywhere in Michigan. Add better turnout to the mix, and it should be a narrow but clear win for the good guys. Clear enough that not even Amy Boney Carrot can save him. I'm pissed. What we needed as a country was a loud and clear repudiation of Trumpism, not some nailbiter where we all cross our fingers and do a whole lot of praying. But civilization is probably safe for now. But that typewriter in Maine may just save the Senate for the Republicans. That and Cal Cunningham's apparent inability to keep it in his pants or away from his cell phone.

nymr83 Nov 04 2020 08:42 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Chad ochoseis wrote: But that typewriter in Maine may just save the Senate for the Republicans. That and Cal Cunningham's apparent inability to keep it in his pants or away from his cell phone. Do you think he rubbed it on his cellphone? As a Republican, I'd rather lose Collins and gain John James if we are picking and choosing the races still in the air.

Edgy MD Nov 04 2020 08:53 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

CNN is reluctant to call anything, but Michigan has flipped into a Biden lead, so if he holds everything he's leading but they're not callling — MI, WI, AZ, ME, NV ... he's in. Which I guess means we're still in 77-year-old Armando territory.

whippoorwill Nov 04 2020 09:01 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Chad ochoseis wrote: But that typewriter in Maine may just save the Senate for the Republicans. That and Cal Cunningham's apparent inability to keep it in his pants or away from his cell phone. Do you think he rubbed it on his cellphone? As a Republican, I'd rather lose Collins and gain John James if we are picking and choosing the races still in the air. Ewwwww

batmagadanleadoff Nov 04 2020 09:04 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Key Senate Races: NC (93% in) Tillis (R) 48.7 - 2,640,381 Cunnungham (D) 46.9 - 2,543,693 MI (95% in) James (R) 49.3 - 2,541,657 Peters (D) 48.8 - 2,518,684 ME (85% in) Collins (R) 50.9 - 397,286 Gideon (D) 42.4 - 330,990

batmagadanleadoff Nov 04 2020 09:06 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 04 2020 09:32 AM

Edgy MD wrote: CNN is reluctant to call anything, but Michigan has flipped into a Biden lead, so if he holds everything he's leading but they're not callling — MI, WI, AZ, ME, NV ... he's in. Yeah, I think it still comes down to Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania if everything else holds. The candidate that wins any two of those three states wins the election.

MFS62 Nov 04 2020 09:12 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Will always wonder if they had spent that 100 million on competitive races instead of trying to win Mitch's unwinnable seat, perhaps they could have completed the turnover. Later

batmagadanleadoff Nov 04 2020 09:14 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Nov 04 2020 10:39 AM

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=49795 time=1604505863 user_id=68] Key Senate Races: NC (93% in) Tillis (R) 48.7 - 2,640,381 Cunnungham (D) 46.9 - 2,543,693 MI (95% in) James (R) 49.3 - 2,541,657 Peters (D) 48.8 - 2,518,684 ME (85% in) Collins (R) 50.9 - 397,286 Gideon (D) 42.4 - 330,990

James's lead is dwindling as more Michigan votes come in, with a large portion of uncounted votes to come in from Dem-heavy Wayne County, which includes Detroit. But the Dems are playing defense here. A Peters win would merely preserve the status quo. Otherwise, it's a GOP pick-up.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 04 2020 09:22 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=49795 time=1604505863 user_id=68] Key Senate Races: MI (95% in) James (R) 49.3 - 2,541,657 Peters (D) 48.8 - 2,518,684

MI (96% in)



James (R) 49.3 - 2,544,112

Peters (D) 48.9 - 2,522,717

Chad ochoseis Nov 04 2020 09:22 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

The uncounted NC votes are Dem heavy. And Maine has ranked choice voting. If Collins falls below 50%, the Green candidate votes that will go to Gideon far outnumber the right wing kook votes that will go to Collins. I am in no way optimistic. But it's far from over.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 04 2020 09:37 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=49795 time=1604505863 user_id=68] Key Senate Races: ME (85% in) Collins (R) 50.9 - 397,286 Gideon (D) 42.4 - 330,990

ME (85% in)



Collins (R) 51.0 - 400,091

Gideon (D) 42.4 - 332,333

Lefty Specialist Nov 04 2020 09:46 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Biden is looking fairly good for taking the presidency. But the Senate, bleh. They'll have another chance in 2022, but they screwed this one up. And the polls? Would have done a better job using sheep entrails. Apparently they don't factor in enough white racist assholes.

nymr83 Nov 04 2020 09:47 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Successfully distancing herself from Trump is no easy feat, but Collins seems to have managed it again? What current senator has the biggest gap in partisan support for the other side in the presidential election? with Doug Jones and Cory Gardner gone is it Collins? or someone i'm not thinking of who wasnt up for election this year?

Frayed Knot Nov 04 2020 09:48 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: Taking out Trump is job one, let's worry about the rest of it later THIS! And if it comes down to Biden vs an R House & Senate to the point where nothing gets done over the next few years and Uncle Joe goes down as a caretaker President (who, let's face it, may need a caretaker himself before it's all over) then there are worse things than that and we move ahead (or backwards) when we tee it up four years from now. But getting the current embarrassment out is paramount even if it's a shame that he wasn't totally repudiated.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 04 2020 09:55 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Lefty Specialist wrote: But the Senate, bleh. They'll have another chance in 2022, but they screwed this one up. I haven't checked it out, but I've read in several places over the past few years that the 2022 Senate Map is supposed to be about as brutal for the GOP as the 2018 map was for Democrats. We'll see. This is now the fourth straight even-numbered year election where the GOP emerged as the party in control of the Senate. I'll take the Biden win like everybody else here, but expect no Dem legislation and another Garland-style total en masse blockade of every judicial opening.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 04 2020 10:06 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Oh, by the way, did anybody see Trump's unhinged speech from last night. I saw it on MSNBC, which eventually pulled the plug, stating that while the station allows for hyperbole, especially on election night, Trump's speech was beyond the pale, and an embarrassment for America. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY4He-wswYA And fuck Florida, racist slavery loving Jim Crow Florida, for fucking its felons, mostly likely Dem voters out of the right to vote.

Edgy MD Nov 04 2020 10:23 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

And it's not like MSNBC was alone in that. One or two other networks busted in while several others called bullshit as soon as it was over. Including Wallace with FOX. I've started to realize that George H.W. Bush blew it all. He was such a bad liar, and he rarely tried to do it — usually not-so-subtley pivoting in the face of a challenging question. But apparently, all he had to do to win during a recession was tell everybody there was no recession, and not to trust their fool eyes.

Edgy MD Nov 04 2020 10:24 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Have other presidents used The White House as central command on Election Night?

nymr83 Nov 04 2020 10:39 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Edgy MD wrote: Have other presidents used The White House as central command on Election Night? Have other presidents had the mayor of DC tell them they couldn't have more than 50 people in a nearby hotel (whether they own it or not?) In a non-covid time I'd take issue with the optics of it, but he does live there (for only another 2 months!) and the pandemic makes it a problem to do it somewhere else.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 04 2020 10:42 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Edgy MD wrote: Have other presidents used The White House as central command on Election Night? Have other presidents had the mayor of DC tell them they couldn't have more than 50 people in a nearby hotel (whether they own it or not?) In a non-covid time I'd take issue with the optics of it, but he does live there (for only another 2 months!) and the pandemic makes it a problem to do it somewhere else. Well then he shouldn't do it. What? The pandemic is a valid excuse to campaign out of the White House? Flimsy. Joe Biden conformed his speech to pandemic conditions.

nymr83 Nov 04 2020 10:47 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Edgy MD wrote: Have other presidents used The White House as central command on Election Night? Have other presidents had the mayor of DC tell them they couldn't have more than 50 people in a nearby hotel (whether they own it or not?) In a non-covid time I'd take issue with the optics of it, but he does live there (for only another 2 months!) and the pandemic makes it a problem to do it somewhere else. Well then he shouldn't do it. What? The pandemic is a valid excuse to campaign out of the White House? Flimsy. Joe Biden conformed his speech to pandemic conditions. Joe Biden doesnt have a country to run and can therefore be wherever he wants to be and wherever the covid rules allow a rally of the size he prefers.

A Boy Named Seo Nov 04 2020 10:51 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Oh, by the way, did anybody see Trump's unhinged speech from last night. I saw it on MSNBC, which eventually pulled the plug, stating that while the station allows for hyperbole, especially on election night, Trump's speech was beyond the pale, and an embarrassment for America. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY4He-wswYA And fuck Florida, racist slavery loving Jim Crow Florida, for fucking its felons, mostly likely Dem voters out of the right to vote. That was maybe worse than all the terrible shit I read about it.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 04 2020 10:58 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 04 2020 11:18 AM

Edgy MD wrote: Have other presidents used The White House as central command on Election Night? Have other presidents had the mayor of DC tell them they couldn't have more than 50 people in a nearby hotel (whether they own it or not?) In a non-covid time I'd take issue with the optics of it, but he does live there (for only another 2 months!) and the pandemic makes it a problem to do it somewhere else. Well then he shouldn't do it. What? The pandemic is a valid excuse to campaign out of the White House? Flimsy. Joe Biden conformed his speech to pandemic conditions. Joe Biden doesnt have a country to run and can therefore be wherever he wants to be and wherever the covid rules allow a rally of the size he prefers. So you're essentially saying that Trump can campaign out of the White House because he's the President; that the Hatch Act doesn't apply to the president. This logic renders the Hatch Act as meaningless and superfluous. Trump should've held that event from his private hotel while complying with the local covid restrictions. Not that I'd expect that.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 04 2020 11:01 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 04 2020 11:02 AM

A Boy Named Seo wrote: Oh, by the way, did anybody see Trump's unhinged speech from last night. I saw it on MSNBC, which eventually pulled the plug, stating that while the station allows for hyperbole, especially on election night, Trump's speech was beyond the pale, and an embarrassment for America. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY4He-wswYA And fuck Florida, racist slavery loving Jim Crow Florida, for fucking its felons, mostly likely Dem voters out of the right to vote. That was maybe worse than all the terrible shit I read about it. It was even worse, live. He stepped onto the podium/stage to this grand music (you could hear it) and some voice of god grandiose announcer (think over the top wrestling) introducing Trump as the President of the USA. I think that the intro announcer was edited out. And didja catch how Trump demands that the vote-counting stop --- but not in Arizona, where he thinks he can catch Biden?

kcmets Nov 04 2020 11:01 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

I see Kanye West has conceded and will set his sights on 2024.

whippoorwill Nov 04 2020 11:02 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Against Ivanka I would vote for Kenye

batmagadanleadoff Nov 04 2020 11:21 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 04 2020 11:24 AM

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=49809 time=1604508914 user_id=68] This is now the fourth straight even-numbered year election where the GOP emerged as the party in control of the Senate. I'll take the Biden win like everybody else here, but expect no Dem legislation and another Garland-style total en masse blockade of every judicial opening.

I wonder if the GOP Senate will even confirm Biden's cabinet (should Biden win)? Or the compromise candidates the GOP will force? And more covid relief? And, omigod, the ACA with no way for the Dems to pass new legislation?

MFS62 Nov 04 2020 11:23 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

tRump just demanded a recount in Wisconsin. He's going to pull that crap everywhere he loses. Later

Edgy MD Nov 04 2020 11:25 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

I guess it's asking too much that early ballots be counted digitally on arrival but that number not revealed until 10 PM on election night.

Lefty Specialist Nov 04 2020 11:27 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

I imagine they'll confirm most, but there'll be a few that are 'too librul' that they'll reject. Then Biden should do what Trump did- appoint them on a temporary basis pretty much permanently.

Edgy MD Nov 04 2020 11:32 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

National Guard members have reportedly been called in for Wisconsin to transcribe votes from mis-printed ballots onto clean ballots. Not for nothing, but how is that not begging for abuse? There has to be some sort of double-blind system in place, right?

Lefty Specialist Nov 04 2020 11:34 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Trump is losing Wisconsin by 21,000 votes.. Libertarian Jo Jorgensen has 38,000 votes and corrupt coal mine operator Don Blankenship has 5200 votes. Somewhere, Al Gore is smiling.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 04 2020 11:45 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Gideon concedes Maine Senate race to Collins, pretty much guaranteeing a GOP controlled Senate for at least another two years.

Chad ochoseis Nov 04 2020 11:49 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Sucks, that. I'm surprised she conceded so quickly. For what it's worth, Peters now ahead by 1020 in Michigan. NC isn't quite a done deal. The GA runoff is a very long shot but, hey, why should the Republicans be the only ones to win long shot races?

Benjamin Grimm Nov 04 2020 11:50 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Biden should pluck Republican Senators in states with Democratic governors for his Cabinet, and then fire them once they've been replaced.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 04 2020 11:50 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=49832 time=1604515525 user_id=68] Gideon concedes Maine Senate race to Collins, pretty much guaranteeing a GOP controlled Senate for at least another two years.

I keep on going back to that recent series of articles in fivethirtyeight.com which concluded that barring a landslide wave election of historic proportions, the Dems have virtually no chance of winning the Senate.

nymr83 Nov 04 2020 11:51 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Biden should pluck Republican Senators in states with Democratic governors for his Cabinet, and then fire them once they've been replaced. Why would they take the job?

batmagadanleadoff Nov 04 2020 11:54 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Biden should pluck Republican Senators in states with Democratic governors for his Cabinet, and then fire them once they've been replaced. That's evil genius brilliant! But those targeted GOP senators would probably see through the ploy and reject the offer. That's sort of what Trump did, or tried to do to Merrick Garland: Trump offered Garland the head of the FBI job. Of course, Trump would've then fired Garland in no time at all and filled Garland's valuable vacated seat on the DC Circuit Court of Appeals with another Trump hack judge.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 04 2020 12:05 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Chad ochoseis wrote: Sucks, that. Want more sucky stuff. The Democrats didn't do so hot with key state legislatures, just ahead of redistricting.

nymr83 Nov 04 2020 12:06 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

tRump just demanded a recount in Wisconsin. He's going to pull that crap everywhere he loses. Later its "crap" to demand a recount when you are within the margin for which state law gives you the RIGHT to do so? that is crazy talk.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 04 2020 12:08 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

tRump just demanded a recount in Wisconsin. He's going to pull that crap everywhere he loses. Later its "crap" to demand a recount when you are within the margin for which state law gives you the RIGHT to do so? that is crazy talk. I agree with you. But you were the one who, four years ago, wrote that nobody should have a right to a recount, in response to Jill Stein's request for a Michigan recount.

MFS62 Nov 04 2020 12:11 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

tRump just demanded a recount in Wisconsin. He's going to pull that crap everywhere he loses. Later its "crap" to demand a recount when you are within the margin for which state law gives you the RIGHT to do so? that is crazy talk. The State law permits it if the margin is less than 1%, and right now the margin is about 20,000 votes. Later

Chad ochoseis Nov 04 2020 12:16 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Chad ochoseis wrote: Sucks, that. Want more sucky stuff. The Democrats didn't do so hot with key state legislatures, just ahead of redistricting. Shite. I was thinking about that. Been too busy at work to check.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 04 2020 12:27 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

NBC: "Joe Biden is the apparent winner of the State of Wisconsin."

nymr83 Nov 04 2020 12:52 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

tRump just demanded a recount in Wisconsin. He's going to pull that crap everywhere he loses. Later its "crap" to demand a recount when you are within the margin for which state law gives you the RIGHT to do so? that is crazy talk. I agree with you. But you were the one who, four years ago, wrote that nobody should have a right to a recount, in response to Jill Stein's request for a Michigan recount. Stein shouldn't have had any right to a recount, she had no chance to win. If Hillary wanted a recount and was within the percentage required by law in Michigan, she should have had one. But she conceded. I don't know the specifics of each state's laws then or now - but the important question is WHO has a right to a recount?

Johnny Lunchbucket Nov 04 2020 01:02 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

NBC: "Joe Biden is the apparent winner of the State of Wisconsin." I feel like our man in Madison TransMonk did this himself. Take a bow Monkman! Proud of you!

kcmets Nov 04 2020 01:20 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

So 22 electoral votes needed from a few remaining states and we can stop worrying about the Pennsylvania debacle.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 04 2020 01:24 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

And we can start worrying about recounts and faithless electors.

kcmets Nov 04 2020 01:26 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Trying to be optimistic, one hour at a time...

Fman99 Nov 04 2020 01:37 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

All per 538. Not pasting the less rosy reports regarding Georgia & NC. Michigan: Biden currently leads here by just 37,350 votes, but it will be difficult for Trump to close that gap because most of the uncounted ballots are in very blue Wayne County (Detroit). At 2 p.m. Eastern, Wayne said it had only 16,000 ballots left to count, which it plans to complete by 6 p.m. Pennsylvania: Trump currently leads Biden 53 percent to 45 percent in Pennsylvania, but this one is a long way from over — 19 percent of expected votes are still uncounted, most of them Democratic-leaning mail ballots. Counties are working around the clock to finish counting, but we're looking at Thursday or Friday before results are semi-final. Arizona: Biden currently leads here by 93,518 votes, but there are around 600,000 left to count, according to the Arizona Republic. About 450,000 of those are in Maricopa County, which says it will release two batches of results tonight: one at 9 p.m. Eastern and one sometime after 12:30 a.m. Eastern. Some outlets, such as Fox News, have already projected Arizona for Biden, but our colleagues at ABC News have not yet done so. Nevada: Biden leads here by only 7,647 votes, and an estimated 14 percent of the vote is still uncounted. However, those votes will all be either late-arriving mail ballots or provisional ballots, which should lean Democratic. We won't be getting another update here until noon Eastern on Thursday.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 04 2020 01:47 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Bidens ahead in the popular vote by over three million and Trump can't catch up there. Not that this matters. Though it should count for everything Meanwhile, mobs are forming in Detroit outside of the vote counting facility-- self proclaimed "poll-watchers" - looking to stop the count and to make trouble. They're chanting "Stop the Count."

Chad ochoseis Nov 04 2020 01:56 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Biden and Peters are both ahead at this moment. They want to stop the count, I'm good.

Lefty Specialist Nov 04 2020 01:56 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Well it's looking like Biden will pull this out, but boy, I put a serious dent in the beer fridge. And took a mid-day nap because I was up most of the night. The beauty of working from home.

ashie62 Nov 04 2020 01:58 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

99% reported in Michigan CALL IT!

Fman99 Nov 04 2020 02:00 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Meanwhile, mobs are forming in Detroit outside of the vote counting facility-- self proclaimed "poll-watchers" - looking to stop the count and to make trouble. They're chanting "Stop the Count." Disgusting.

ashie62 Nov 04 2020 02:17 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

CNN Calls Michigan for Biden.

whippoorwill Nov 04 2020 02:23 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

I swear NC and PA must have slept in today

MFS62 Nov 04 2020 02:25 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

=ashie62 post_id=49860 time=1604524624 user_id=90] CNN Calls Michigan for Biden.

Doesn't that cinch it? Does any other network confirm it?

Later

Lefty Specialist Nov 04 2020 02:28 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Not everybody is calling Arizona or Nevada yet, even though he's ahead and the outstanding votes should lean his way. Once they're called, he's got 270. Trump of course will try all kinds of shenanigans, but even if he were to win PA, it's not enough.

MFS62 Nov 04 2020 02:35 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

I'm getting schpilkes. https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/4133829/jewish/What-Does-Shpilkes-Mean.htm Later

Benjamin Grimm Nov 04 2020 03:03 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

He can still try to subvert the electors.

Johnny Lunchbucket Nov 04 2020 03:46 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Michigan and Arizona called for Joe.

whippoorwill Nov 04 2020 03:53 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

On cnn they are still jabbering about Arizona. What gives?

Johnny Lunchbucket Nov 04 2020 04:14 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

AP and Fox actually called AZ for Joe some time ago, the other outlets hadn't. AP in a statement less than an hour ago said it stands by its projection. The uncounted votes there are Biden heavy I believe.

Chad ochoseis Nov 04 2020 04:18 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

=whippoorwill post_id=49869 time=1604530430 user_id=79] On cnn they are still jabbering about Arizona. What gives?

A few hundred thousand mail-in ballots that the Associated Press's data people missed. Spread across the state. According to fivethirtyeight, Trump would need to win those ballots by 21 percentage points, which isn't impossible, but is highly unlikely.



How they missed them is an interesting question. But if I understood correctly, it was the media that missed them, not the vote-counters.



Fivethirtyeight believes that among the not yet called states, Biden has an even chance or better at all but NC. That would give him 306 EV, or exactly the amount Trump won in 2016, though two switched their vote to other Republicans.

kcmets Nov 04 2020 04:19 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

CNN wants to string their lemmings along? Ratings sells future ads.

Edgy MD Nov 04 2020 04:37 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Benjamin Grimm wrote: He can still try to subvert the electors. Or buy them. Or blackmail them.

whippoorwill Nov 04 2020 04:59 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Chad ochoseis wrote: =whippoorwill post_id=49869 time=1604530430 user_id=79] On cnn they are still jabbering about Arizona. What gives? A few hundred thousand mail-in ballots that the Associated Press's data people missed. Spread across the state. According to fivethirtyeight, Trump would need to win those ballots by 21 percentage points, which isn't impossible, but is highly unlikely. How they missed them is an interesting question. But if I understood correctly, it was the media that missed them, not the vote-counters. Fivethirtyeight believes that among the not yet called states, Biden has an even chance or better at all but NC. That would give him 306 EV, or exactly the amount Trump won in 2016, though two switched their vote to other Republicans.

Thank you!

This is a mess

whippoorwill Nov 04 2020 05:18 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Well my question about NC is answered. They have until next week Way to be relevant

nymr83 Nov 04 2020 07:52 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Chad ochoseis wrote: =whippoorwill post_id=49869 time=1604530430 user_id=79] On cnn they are still jabbering about Arizona. What gives? A few hundred thousand mail-in ballots that the Associated Press's data people missed. Spread across the state. According to fivethirtyeight, Trump would need to win those ballots by 21 percentage points, which isn't impossible, but is highly unlikely. How they missed them is an interesting question. But if I understood correctly, it was the media that missed them, not the vote-counters.

Wheres Donald complainin about 'found votes' now?

Centerfield Nov 04 2020 09:24 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Anyone still up? Was hoping Georgia would fall tonight.

nymr83 Nov 04 2020 10:15 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Anyone still up? Was hoping Georgia would fall tonight. I dont sleep If Trump wins GA, PA, NC and then Biden wins Nevada will the Republicans in Nebraska who thought it was a good idea to split their electoral votes have to go into witness protection? They would be the "villains" of 2020 to far right crazies that they would never forgive the way Jill Stein 2016 is to batmags?

Johnny Lunchbucket Nov 04 2020 10:24 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Nothing till tomorrow. Still only had 1 beer each of the last 2 nights

Lefty Specialist Nov 05 2020 04:43 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Anyone still up? Was hoping Georgia would fall tonight. I dont sleep If Trump wins GA, PA, NC and then Biden wins Nevada will the Republicans in Nebraska who thought it was a good idea to split their electoral votes have to go into witness protection? They would be the "villains" of 2020 to far right crazies that they would never forgive the way Jill Stein 2016 is to batmags? Which reminds me, time to place another order for Omaha Steaks. Good behavior should be rewarded.

Chad ochoseis Nov 05 2020 05:25 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Nov 05 2020 05:51 AM

Campbell's soup is also Omaha-based, I think. Back to the Senate for a minute. In the Georgia special election, everyone knew there was going to be a runoff. But after adding up all the minor candidate percentages, the Republicans only received 1.1 percentage points more than the Democrats. In the regular Georgia election, Perdue has fallen below 50% of the vote with Dem-leaning votes left to be counted. So it looks like two Georgia runoffs, both of which are tough but winnable. A lot can happen between now and January. The Senate isn't lost yet. I guess Maine is gone. But I don't get why Gideon conceded so quickly. Collins is just barely above 50%, and the instant runoff votes probably lean heavily towards Gideon. OE - updated GA count has Perdue with about 3000 votes above 50% with about 250K left to count.

kcmets Nov 05 2020 05:45 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Waking and tuning into Michigan morans rally chanting 'stop the count!' was not a good way to start the day. #lgm #ygb #ymdyf

Frayed Knot Nov 05 2020 06:08 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Given that Biden is up in Michigan by 2.7%, or some 150,000 votes according to the most recent figures I've seen, I'm not sure that 'stopping the count' NOW!!!! would accomplish the goal those protesting geniuses seem to be aiming for.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 05 2020 06:21 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Frayed Knot wrote: Given that Biden is up in Michigan by 2.7%, or some 150,000 votes according to the most recent figures I've seen, I'm not sure that 'stopping the count' NOW!!!! would accomplish the goal those protesting geniuses seem to be aiming for. Bizarre, isn't it?

Centerfield Nov 05 2020 06:24 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Frayed Knot wrote: Given that Biden is up in Michigan by 2.7%, or some 150,000 votes according to the most recent figures I've seen, I'm not sure that 'stopping the count' NOW!!!! would accomplish the goal those protesting geniuses seem to be aiming for. Well, to be fair it's hard to chant “Stop counting Biden votes and count our votes multiple times until Trump wins.”

kcmets Nov 05 2020 06:36 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Multiple stations have upped Biden to 264, CNN again slow and stuck on 253. WEIRD.

Fman99 Nov 05 2020 06:45 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

=kcmets post_id=49917 time=1604583374 user_id=53] Multiple stations have upped Biden to 264, CNN again slow and stuck on 253. WEIRD.

The only major network I'm seeing with 264 is Fox, ironically, because they called AZ so early. The major networks all still show 253.

kcmets Nov 05 2020 06:55 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

AP has him at 264.

Frayed Knot Nov 05 2020 07:13 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: Given that Biden is up in Michigan by 2.7%, or some 150,000 votes according to the most recent figures I've seen, I'm not sure that 'stopping the count' NOW!!!! would accomplish the goal those protesting geniuses seem to be aiming for. Bizarre, isn't it? Or maybe they're all just supporters of 'Big Bird' and are rallying against his opponent in that bitterly fought local race which has also gone down to the wire. [FIMG=300]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-RnWjj51Bo7Y/UUsrKEAKa7I/AAAAAAAASZo/6tfgicwWmxk/s1600/Count+half+closed.png[/FIMG]

whippoorwill Nov 05 2020 08:42 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

=kcmets post_id=49921 time=1604584513 user_id=53] AP has him at 264.

Exactly! I am perplexed

batmagadanleadoff Nov 05 2020 08:43 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden Edited 3 time(s), most recently on Nov 05 2020 08:54 AM

Chad ochoseis wrote: I guess Maine is gone. But I don't get why Gideon conceded so quickly. Collins is just barely above 50%, and the instant runoff votes probably lean heavily towards Gideon. I don't think that "conceding" carries any legal or official consequences. Gideon doesnt forfeit any rights by conceding. If the remaining uncounted votes swing Gideon's way enough to change the status quo, then that's what'll happen. Maine will still count all the votes.

whippoorwill Nov 05 2020 08:44 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

=kcmets post_id=49917 time=1604583374 user_id=53] Multiple stations have upped Biden to 264, CNN again slow and stuck on 253. WEIRD.

It's no wonder Trump is fired up. They can't even keep the count straight

They should all have to be done at the same time even if it means opening mail in ballots as they get them, not on election day

Edgy MD Nov 05 2020 08:53 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

It's not like he wouldn't have complained about that as well.

whippoorwill Nov 05 2020 09:03 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Yeah but I'm the one complaining 😂

Chad ochoseis Nov 05 2020 09:08 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

I see Centre County, PA is Biden +4, the only blue county outside the Philly, Pittsburgh, Allentown/Bethlehem/Easton/Scranton, and Harrisburg metros. Yay, Cooby! And all those hippie Penn State professors!

whippoorwill Nov 05 2020 09:19 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

One county over, but yes it's a relief to me that there are SOME rational people nearby :) My daughter lives there!

Lefty Specialist Nov 05 2020 09:20 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Different outlets use different consultants and methods to decide whether to call a state. Some made the call that Trump would be unable to come back from the deficit he was in. Others were more cautious. Trump does have a chance to pull Arizona out from the votes remaining. But PA is looking good for Biden as the counting of mail ballots continues. Which is why Trump supporters are chanting "Count all the votes!" in Arizona and "Stop the Count!" in Pennsylvania.

ashie62 Nov 05 2020 09:34 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Getting too close for comfort in AZ.

whippoorwill Nov 05 2020 09:40 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Yeah and AZ is the discrepancy in the 253-264 count difference

Edgy MD Nov 05 2020 09:42 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

=ashie62 post_id=49951 time=1604594040 user_id=90] Getting too close for comfort in AZ.

To whose tabulations are you referring?

batmagadanleadoff Nov 05 2020 10:01 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Wow! Biden's really cutting into Trump's PA lead. He reduced it by 80%. Last night, Trump was up by about 500K votes. Now his lead is down to about 120K. Three cheers for the Liberty Bell, the Philly Cheesesteak and Greg Luzinski.

kcmets Nov 05 2020 10:02 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Conjob News Network has a AZ difference of approximately 68,000.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 05 2020 10:02 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

And Trump's Georgia lead is down to just 14K!

batmagadanleadoff Nov 05 2020 10:05 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=49954 time=1604595664 user_id=68] Wow! Biden's really cutting into Trump's PA lead. He reduced it by 80%. Last night, Trump was up by about 500K votes. Now his lead is down to about 120K. Three cheers for the Liberty Bell, the Philly Cheesesteak and Greg Luzinski.

Trump's lead down to 116K in PA.

nymr83 Nov 05 2020 10:06 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Waking and tuning into Michigan morans rally chanting 'stop the count!' was not a good way to start the day. #lgm #ygb #ymdyf their friends in ARZ are chanting "count the votes" where is the "crying laughing" emoji?

Lefty Specialist Nov 05 2020 10:17 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

A friend said to me today, "The only way Trump gets to 270 is if he loses 50 pounds."

Benjamin Grimm Nov 05 2020 10:20 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Lefty Specialist wrote: A friend said to me today, "The only way Trump gets to 270 is if he loses 50 pounds." LIKE!

Benjamin Grimm Nov 05 2020 10:29 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=49956 time=1604595766 user_id=68] And Trump's Georgia lead is down to just 14K!

And finally an update from Nevada. Biden's lead expands from 8,000 to around 11,500. 87% of the vote is in.

kcmets Nov 05 2020 10:41 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Lefty Specialist wrote: A friend said to me today, "The only way Trump gets to 270 is if he loses 50 pounds." Just texted this to a couple of my old cronies. They won't find it as funny as the delight it gave me sharing it. Thanks!

Chad ochoseis Nov 05 2020 10:41 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

I played with some spreadsheets about an hour ago and estimated a 5000 vote Biden win in Georgia based on the margins by county and the uncounted votes.

Lefty Specialist Nov 05 2020 10:43 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

David Perdue is currently at 49.984% of the vote in Georgia. They may squeak out a second runoff. And Biden is 13,600 behind with about 60,000 votes to count, all mail-ins from blue areas. He'd need at least 65% of them. As Arte Johnson would say, "Verrrry interesting."

whippoorwill Nov 05 2020 11:15 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Benjamin Grimm wrote: =batmagadanleadoff post_id=49956 time=1604595766 user_id=68] And Trump's Georgia lead is down to just 14K! And finally an update from Nevada. Biden's lead expands from 8,000 to around 11,500. 87% of the vote is in.

Yeah but they just said they'll be counting until the 11th 🙄

whippoorwill Nov 05 2020 11:16 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

So come on PA and just finish this out

batmagadanleadoff Nov 05 2020 11:22 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

MSNBC is reporting that Biden is winning the incoming Philadelphia votes by a margin of about 90-10.

Edgy MD Nov 05 2020 11:38 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

On one hand, Pennsylvania shouldn't be necessary. On the other definitely don't want this within one lawsuit — or one suddenly found uncounted batch of votes — of a reversed outcome.

Johnny Lunchbucket Nov 05 2020 11:41 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=49967 time=1604600529 user_id=68] MSNBC is reporting that Biden is winning the incoming Philadelphia votes by a margin of about 90-10.

Good things happens in Philadelphia

Frayed Knot Nov 05 2020 11:53 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Lefty Specialist wrote: A friend said to me today, "The only way Trump gets to 270 is if he loses 50 pounds." That may be the best line of the whole election season.

whippoorwill Nov 05 2020 12:05 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Lol my mom says when Biden wins she's got an old pan she's gonna go out and pound on to make noise

whippoorwill Nov 05 2020 12:10 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

One thing these guys on tv don't know but I can tell you right now...all those rural counties that aren't counted are going to be republicans And THATS why I'm nervous if Philadelphia only has 100000 left

batmagadanleadoff Nov 05 2020 12:10 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Nov 05 2020 12:13 PM

This suspense is all Florida's fault. What a scumbag, redneck, Jim Crow loving racist state. And the fucking Miami Cubans who hold the whole nation hostage because they buy the GOP bullshit that the Democrats are gonna go all Karl Marx on steroids if they win. Gummo Marx is more likely. Fuck Florida. I'm never going there ever again. Fuck 'em and I mean it. You'd think that putting aside the candidates, health care alone and the threat to the ACA would be enough for the Dems to get that stupid fucking state.

whippoorwill Nov 05 2020 12:12 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

I should clarify—-OVERWHELMINGLY republican

Benjamin Grimm Nov 05 2020 12:22 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

A look at the status of Pennsylvania counties: https://www.cbsnews.com/elections/2020/pennsylvania/president/ You're right that a lot of those counties are Republican. But a quick scan of the counties where Trump is way ahead shows that they have less population and most of the votes are in. (Clearfield County is an extreme example.) Meanwhile, Philadelphia is only at 74% and Allegheny is at 89. So... who knows?

whippoorwill Nov 05 2020 12:23 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Im hopeful, gentlemen!

whippoorwill Nov 05 2020 12:25 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

That's a great link btw

Frayed Knot Nov 05 2020 12:27 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 05 2020 12:51 PM

cross-posting with some above comments, but I'll let it ride anyway =whippoorwill post_id=49972 time=1604603411 user_id=79] One thing these guys on tv don't know but I can tell you right now...all those rural counties that aren't counted are going to be republicans

They're mentioning it, the good ones are anyway. What the analysis is trying to do at this point is

- see how many ballots are uncounted in the various counties,

- project how those will go based on how that county/area has gone so far,

- and then guesstimate that similar percentages will hold for the not-yet counted votes.



So, yes, Trump will likely pick up votes via mail-in votes from the more rural counties but urban centers have more of them to the point where Biden could gain enough fast enough to catch up.

Then there's the line of thinking that Dems this year used mail-in/absentee at a greater clip than Republicans and therefore Biden might gain votes at rates above where the in-person figures were,

so for ex. if Biden won Philadelphia County by 80/20 on Tuesday he might win the uncounted votes at a clip closer to 85/15 or 90/10

And based on where the known uncounted votes still are (more urban than rural) it's almost certain that he'll close the gap. The question is can he close it all the way.





oe: and the networks all employ their own analysts in these matters, guys who could be either more or less aggressive in projecting how the uncounted votes will fall; it's why they don't all call states

at the same time or even agree that it should be called at a particular time. It also doesn't matter how they call states really since they're not the ones who decide. On the other hand, if they all see

things the same way then it's a pretty good indication that that's how things will end up.

Chad ochoseis Nov 05 2020 12:50 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

The PA absentee ballots were running 80% Biden last time I checked the NYT. Not in Philly, but statewide. C'mon, Old Armando. Bear down and close this out.

Lefty Specialist Nov 05 2020 12:59 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

I'd prefer a 4-run lead from Arizona or Georgia hitting a home run, so that it's no longer a save situation for Old Armando. Gah! I'm all tangled up in my metaphors!

whippoorwill Nov 05 2020 01:05 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Frayed Knot wrote: cross-posting with some above comments, but I'll let it ride anyway =whippoorwill post_id=49972 time=1604603411 user_id=79] One thing these guys on tv don't know but I can tell you right now...all those rural counties that aren't counted are going to be republicans They're mentioning it, the good ones are anyway. What the analysis is trying to do at this point is - see how many ballots are uncounted in the various counties, - project how those will go based on how that county/area has gone so far, - and then guesstimate that similar percentages will hold for the not-yet counted votes. So, yes, Trump will likely pick up votes via mail-in votes from the more rural counties but urban centers have more of them to the point where Biden could gain enough fast enough to catch up. Then there's the line of thinking that Dems this year used mail-in/absentee at a greater clip than Republicans and therefore Biden might gain votes at rates above where the in-person figures were, so for ex. if Biden won Philadelphia County by 80/20 on Tuesday he might win the uncounted votes at a clip closer to 85/15 or 90/10 And based on where the known uncounted votes still are (more urban than rural) it's almost certain that he'll close the gap. The question is can he close it all the way. oe: and the networks all employ their own analysts in these matters, guys who could be either more or less aggressive in projecting how the uncounted votes will fall; it's why they don't all call states at the same time or even agree that it should be called at a particular time. It also doesn't matter how they call states really since they're not the ones who decide. On the other hand, if they all see things the same way then it's a pretty good indication that that's how things will end up.

Yeah I'm on CNN and right after I said that they went into that...

Cool that CNN is reading the CPF :)

Lefty Specialist Nov 05 2020 01:11 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

PA is saying they may finish counting by tonight. Come on cheesesteaks. If Biden takes PA I will smooch the Phanatic's butt.

nymr83 Nov 05 2020 01:13 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

538 seems to think its a 'done deal' for Biden - basically that Arizona is a little closer than expected though still very likely Biden, Nevada should be called already and PA is almost certainly Biden, Georgia might be too.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 05 2020 01:14 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

I'd be more confident in that if 538 had a better recent track record.

Chad ochoseis Nov 05 2020 01:15 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Lefty Specialist wrote: PA is saying they may finish counting by tonight. Come on cheesesteaks. If Biden takes PA I will smooch the Phanatic's butt. I want pictures.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 05 2020 01:17 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Chad ochoseis wrote: Lefty Specialist wrote: PA is saying they may finish counting by tonight. Come on cheesesteaks. If Biden takes PA I will smooch the Phanatic's butt. I want pictures. https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/ebf/6fa/e6e94145da3f0048bb48ed0feee7135c4c-tony-lukes-cheesesteak-03.rhorizontal.w700.jpg>

Edgy MD Nov 05 2020 01:21 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Georgia judge took an hour before dismissing lawsuit from Trump surrogates.

whippoorwill Nov 05 2020 01:24 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

I hope Rukatan goes out of business because that is the most insulting ad I've seen Elton should sue

kcmets Nov 05 2020 02:00 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

I'm sure Elton cashed a nice royalty check in approval.

whippoorwill Nov 05 2020 02:02 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

I doubt it if he saw what drivel they were going to make of it

Benjamin Grimm Nov 05 2020 02:31 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Georgia is almost done, and Biden is still down by a little under 13,000 votes, or 0.3%. Does he demand a recount?

Frayed Knot Nov 05 2020 02:31 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Edgy MD wrote: Georgia judge took an hour before dismissing lawsuit from Trump surrogates. Did that hour include his lunch break?

Frayed Knot Nov 05 2020 02:53 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Georgia is almost done, and Biden is still down by a little under 13,000 votes, or 0.3%. Does he demand a recount? Depending on what the rules/deadlines etc are, he'd almost have to just to insulate himself against the possibility that one of Donnie's endless parade of lawsuits might prove fruitful.

Edgy MD Nov 05 2020 03:17 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

My totally sketchy numbers say the vice president needs: [list] [*]Approximately 79% of the remaining 87,492 uncounted votes to win Alaska. [*]Approximately 42% of the remaining 402,436 uncounted votes to win Arizona. [*]Approximately 55% of the remaining 97,396 uncounted votes to win Georgia. [*]Approximately 46% of the remaining 131,677 uncounted votes to win Nevada. [*]Approximately 64% of the remaining 269,375 uncounted votes to win North Carolina [*]Approximately 60% of the remaining 448,355 uncounted votes to win Pennsylvania. [/list] That may not be based on the most recent reported numbers you may have, but outside of Alaska, each of those looks do-able on my spreadsheet.

Edgy MD Nov 05 2020 03:49 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Numbers changed while I was out walking the mongrels, and ... Georgia is about to swing.

Lefty Specialist Nov 05 2020 03:54 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Trump to have an Airing of the Grievances at 6:30 PM. Should be fun.

Edgy MD Nov 05 2020 04:05 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

America attempts to explain math to their president. He'll probably offer a do-over and pretend he's being magnanimous.

Chad ochoseis Nov 05 2020 04:19 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

I don't have cable at home, so I don't get to watch much CNN. I'm out of town this evening in a place that has cable, so I'm watching tonight and by golly, Rick Santorum is a douchebag, isn't he?

Chad ochoseis Nov 05 2020 05:06 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Keep whining, Trump. Whine on until the Electoral College votes in December. That'll help the Republican brand in the Georgia runoffs.

Chad ochoseis Nov 05 2020 05:16 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

HOLEE COW. Biden deficit in Georgia down to 3,635.

Frayed Knot Nov 05 2020 05:19 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Chad ochoseis wrote: Keep whining, Trump. Whine on until the Electoral College votes in December. That'll help the Republican brand in the Georgia runoffs. NBC dumped out of Trump's press address midway through saying that he simply made too many non-factual claims to the point where it was no longer newsworthy. Rick Santorum is a douchebag, isn't he? And yet even he is pushing back against some of Trump's claims and tactics. HOLEE COW. Biden deficit in Georgia down to 3,635. 0.1% ... and there looks like there are enough outstanding votes to cover that.

Frayed Knot Nov 05 2020 05:35 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

So the tactics have now morphed from 'Stop the Count' (cuz if they did they'd guaranteed themselves a loss) to complaining about things like the pre-election polls being not just wrong but intentionally and fraudulently so for the purpose discouraging Republican voters.

ashie62 Nov 05 2020 05:39 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

I credit Santorum for taking the heat. Nothing out of Trump I did not expect.

Chad ochoseis Nov 05 2020 05:39 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

18,936 left to count in Georgia. Biden needs 11,211, or 59%. It looks good.

ashie62 Nov 05 2020 05:43 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Biden has 83.1% of the GA vote in DeKalb county I have no doubt Trump thinks that is "fixed". That percentage is somewhat startling.

Fman99 Nov 05 2020 06:56 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

He prepped the nation for this exact contingency for several months. I'm happy to see it all came true. Let him bleat to the clouds for days on end. He's going to lose and all of the high paid lawyers and recounts and Tweets won't change the numbers.

Edgy MD Nov 05 2020 07:15 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Chad ochoseis wrote: I don't have cable at home, so I don't get to watch much CNN. I'm out of town this evening in a place that has cable, so I'm watching tonight and by golly, Rick Santorum is a douchebag, isn't he? Rick Santorum is America right now. He's absolutely convinced he's on a holy mission and he will give himself completely to the Devil to get it done. While half of these guys would say anything to anybody to get ahead, he half believes himself. He's also dangerous because he's kind of bright. Fortunately, that's balanced out by him sharing Ted Cruz's tragically repellent personality. Suffolk went pretty decisively for Trump, and Staten Island went hard. Nassau is also, disgustingly, in the T column, but that's only a 6,000 vote edge, with 12% still to count. But even if that swings, that's totally gross, Nassau.

ashie62 Nov 05 2020 07:22 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

In Alaska, the Green Party candidate is Jesse Ventura with roughly 1600 votes.

Frayed Knot Nov 05 2020 08:26 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Nov 05 2020 08:29 PM

Edgy MD wrote: Suffolk went pretty decisively for Trump, and Staten Island went hard. Nassau is also, disgustingly, in the T column, but that's only a 6,000 vote edge, with 12% still to count. But even if that swings, that's totally gross, Nassau. This surprises me, at least to a degree. Suburban LI used to be fairly reliable Republican (60-40 -ish) but even so it was a moderate version of Republicanism -- kind of a holdover from the Rockafeller wing -- and even that was waning in recent years and decades (4 of 5 Reps are D I believe). And, yeah, while these results don't say good things about either of the two counties, at some point some of this is the Dems for not offering more attractive alternatives.

nymr83 Nov 05 2020 08:27 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

=ashie62 post_id=50018 time=1604629336 user_id=90] In Alaska, the Green Party candidate is Jesse Ventura with roughly 1600 votes.

As in the former governor of Minnesota?

Edgy MD Nov 05 2020 09:41 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Chad ochoseis wrote: HOLEE COW. Biden deficit in Georgia down to 3,635. SEE-ENN-ENN now has it at 1805

batmagadanleadoff Nov 06 2020 12:55 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Trump's lead in Georgia is down to 665 votes. 665. Clayton County is counting votes through the night.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 06 2020 02:04 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=50026 time=1604649337 user_id=68] Trump's lead in Georgia is down to 665 votes. 665. Clayton County is counting votes through the night.

463 votes.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 06 2020 02:28 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

...and Biden takes the lead in Georgia. By 917 votes.

Lefty Specialist Nov 06 2020 04:13 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

And Trump's lead in PA is 18,229. Biden coming on fast and there are 160,000 votes left to count, mostly in Philly. Time to smooch Phanatic ass!

Centerfield Nov 06 2020 05:21 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Fat lady warming up.

Fman99 Nov 06 2020 05:42 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Yep, I feel like Armando finally stopped looking at the radar readings behind CF and just started throwing gas down the middle.

Johnny Lunchbucket Nov 06 2020 05:44 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

That's great. I sorta expected that if Philly really voted Biden would coast there...but Georgia which I don't have a feel for is the shocker

whippoorwill Nov 06 2020 05:46 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Whoooooo!

whippoorwill Nov 06 2020 05:48 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

But let us not be hasty, it could always flip back Like a fat turtle 🤣😂

MFS62 Nov 06 2020 05:50 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

This is nutz. Don't count your boobies before they hatch. Later

Centerfield Nov 06 2020 05:53 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Yeah. Georgia is very close still, but Pennsylvania is in the bag. It's like that sprinting guy in Atlanta against a fat drunk fan.

MFS62 Nov 06 2020 06:16 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Sweating out the election results this weekend while continuing to clean out the attic. I hope both activities will result in getting rid of the trash. Later

whippoorwill Nov 06 2020 06:54 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Watched Fox News for a few minutes. What a bunch of zombies

ashie62 Nov 06 2020 07:31 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Biden takes the lead in PA.

Centerfield Nov 06 2020 09:13 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Fat lady is ready. Standing in the bullpen with her arms crossed. Make the call Luis.

Chad ochoseis Nov 06 2020 09:50 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Philly police arrested two armed men in a Humvee with a QAnon decal headed towards the vote counting center last night. The Trump stain isn't going to be easy for this country to wash off.

Lefty Specialist Nov 06 2020 09:59 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Trump gaining in AZ, but it may not be enough. PA numbers keep getting better, and Biden's lead in NV just doubled. Starting to relax for the first time in four days.

Centerfield Nov 06 2020 10:23 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Lefty Specialist wrote: Trump gaining in AZ, but it may not be enough. PA numbers keep getting better, and Biden's lead in NV just doubled. Starting to relax for the first time in four days. The Mets deal is expected to close this afternoon as well. Imagine. Steve Cohen becoming official at the same time Biden is declared the winner. As Mets fans, are we even allowed to experience that level of happiness?

MFS62 Nov 06 2020 10:46 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Steve Bannon's Twitter account was suspended after he calls for the executions of Dr. Fauci and FBI Director Wray. https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/steve-bannon-twitter-account-suspended-013048763.html I'm not sure if this belongs in the election, politics or a new crazy and dangerous thread. Later

Benjamin Grimm Nov 06 2020 10:48 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

https://www.vox.com/2020/11/6/21534594/joe-biden-wins-2020-presidential-election Vox is calling it for Biden. Prematurely, to be sure. I guess they wanted to be ahead of the others.

Edgy MD Nov 06 2020 11:12 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

I think the MVP this election cycle has to be considered Stacey Abrams. Maybe some of her work can come to fruition in Ohio, too.

ashie62 Nov 06 2020 11:22 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

This is going to be a long long slog. "Cured" ballots, constitutionality, this and that.

TransMonk Nov 06 2020 11:28 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

I am sitting in a hotel room where I have been since Tuesday watching the results trickle in seemingly vote by vote. I am quarantining after working the polls in person on Election Day. My wife and child cannot afford to be sick and both my boomer aged parents and my in-laws are in town and helping with the virtual learning that my daughter is doing since schools are closed. I have the flexibility and means to lock myself up for a few days and keep myself isolated from the ones I love. I'm feeling no symptoms and took a COVID test this morning. I should get the results in a day or two. Back in the before times, I used to travel quite a bit for work and for pleasure. I am just now realizing how much political coverage of the past four years I have watched on a hotel TV screen. In March of 2016, I watched coverage of a black protester being punched by Trump supporters at a rally while staying in Denver for work. In July of 2016, I watched parts of the dark Republican convention from a hotel room in Vegas. Later that month, I saw Obama give his speech at the Democratic convention while in Chicago for another work meeting. I believe during that same stay, I saw Trump's "Russia, if you're listening..." press conference live. Traveling by car through Nebraska and Colorado in 2018, the news was wall-to-wall with the reporting of migrant children being separated from their parents and placed in cages. Last November, I took a trip to Los Angeles and during downtime, watched impeachment testimony from Gordon Sondland and Alexander Vindman on the hotel screen. I guess it is only fitting that I am watching the 2020 results hopefully inch towards a Biden victory in a tiny room with a giant TV. As for election day, our precinct is small (about 2150 registered voters) and we were able to rent two ballot counting machines when typically we would only have one. This allowed election staff to process absentee/mail ballots all day while in-person voting utilized the second machine. In the end, we had 2007 ballots cast. Approximately 1350 of the ballots were processed absentee. Much like the rest of the state and the country, the ~800 in person voting broke about 450 to 350 in favor of Trump, but the ~1350 absentees went about 1100 to 250 for Biden. Overall, my county (which is heavily Democrat) cast more votes for Biden than Clinton in 2016 or Obama in 2012. Overall, Joe got 75.5% of the vote here. Trump actually got 9000 more votes in our county this year than four years ago, but still got a smaller percentage of the overall vote. In total, Democrats saw a net gain of 34,946 votes between 2016 and 2020. In a state where the winning margin is going to be so slight, I am glad our little movement here was able to contribute. The national media will point to Milwaukee turnout and Trump erosion in the WOW counties, but much like the 2018 gubernatorial race and the state Supreme Court race earlier this year, Madison did its part. I'm proud to be living in what is once again a blue state. When Scott Walker and Ron Johnson got elected in 2010, I was embarrassed, but when the state went for Trump in 2020, I was pretty devastated. Since then, We have kicked Walker out and flipped the Presidential results blue - even if it is by the smallest of margins. Personally, I'm going to get invested in the GA Senate runoffs and have pledged to do all I can to flip Johnson's Senate seat and maintain control of the governorship in 2022. Our state legislature is still pretty ratfucked, but it will take some time to undo that atrocity. I've got the makings for a stiff drink when this thing eventually gets called. It was not the repudiation I was hoping for and the country is still very far apart when it comes to the urban/rural divide. I've got my fingers crossed that we can begin taking baby steps in the right (left?) direction. There are so many immediate needs that are not being addressed. But even the slim margins in this likely eventual victory give me a glimmer of hope.

ashie62 Nov 06 2020 11:33 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

The business of government hangs in the lurch.

MFS62 Nov 06 2020 11:56 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Thank you for all your efforts, Monk. Make sure that drink is a double. You've earned it. Later

batmagadanleadoff Nov 06 2020 12:45 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Edgy MD wrote: I think the MVP this election cycle has to be considered Stacey Abrams. Maybe some of her work can come to fruition in Ohio, too. Yeah. I was thinking the same. She definitely greased the skids, paved the way for Biden's Georgia lead.

kcmets Nov 06 2020 01:46 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

it just dawned on me that in the coming days we'll have America's first Lame Fuck President in White House history!

Chad ochoseis Nov 06 2020 02:27 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

MSNBC's professional geek Steve Kornacki throws some cold water on Pennsylvania. Tl;dl - there were also 100000 provisional ballots, generally cast day of the election by people who requested mail-ins but voted in person anyway. Because the in-person vote in general favored Trump in PA, it's likely these will as well. It's highly unlikely this will sway the final vote, but there may still be more ulcers to be had before this all ends. November">https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1324797005835755520?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 6, 2020

whippoorwill Nov 06 2020 02:57 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

There were a bunch of people wandering around Tuesday with their mailings wondering what to go with them 🙄 One of my moms friends called her around 3:30 Election Day wondering if she could still mail hers Mom said no you have to take it to the drop off box but if it's too late and Trump loses she won't cry lolol

Edgy MD Nov 06 2020 08:28 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Chad ochoseis wrote: MSNBC's professional geek Steve Kornacki throws some cold water on Pennsylvania. You know, I feel like a kid whose family just got his fucked-up uncle to move out of the house, and now this guy has to go and ruin shit.

Johnny Lunchbucket Nov 06 2020 09:09 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Victory beer being drunk

Lefty Specialist Nov 07 2020 03:46 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Hey, whatever you do, don't go to this site and use a false name to leave snarky comments. https://defendyourballot.formstack.com/forms/voter_fraud?utm_source=graphic No really. Don't.

Lefty Specialist Nov 07 2020 03:53 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

This afternoon we're having a gathering of friends, the same ones who gathered in 2016 to mourn the election. I have a Trump Baby balloon. I'm going to go to Party City and fill it with helium, then at the party we're going to release it and let it gently fly away, never to be seen again. Meanwhile, in Washington, Joe Biden gets ready to go to work...... https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmLvhZnVgAAL3Fo?format=jpg&name=900x900>

Benjamin Grimm Nov 07 2020 04:36 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

First step would be to have that place fumigated.

MFS62 Nov 07 2020 09:11 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

My Canadian friend predicts the future (He doesn't like to use capital letters. He believes that all letters are created equal) 1. the special needs kids on broad street will eventually count enough votes to satisfy the fat guy with glasses at cnn to call the fucking race 2. biden will give a bland soothing non-confrontational acceptance speech 3. so will trump (just checking to see if u're paying attention or if the turned on retarded folks with erections is still mortifying u) 4. isolated clashes with idiots with guns (they had a guy on tv yesterday - who looked like toad from american graffiti - who was carrying what looked to me to be a semi-automatic rifle and was calling for civil war....somebody should take that gun away from toad before he hurts himself)... 5. lawyers makes lots of money and lose every case cuz they are so small they don't matter anyway 6. trump will eventually slither away 7. somebody will eventually remember that alaska is a state and award their three votes 8. and about january the election will be official (and the kids in philly can have a sex party).... and about 2023, sleepy joe will announce that gridlock is overrated and that he is stepping down...and murica will have its first female prez or not Later

MFS62 Nov 07 2020 09:28 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

CBS just projected Biden the winner!!! Later

ashie62 Nov 07 2020 09:35 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

ABC also

MFS62 Nov 07 2020 09:58 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Now Steve Kornacki can get a well deserved rest. Still too early for a Memories of Donald Trump thread. Later

Johnny Lunchbucket Nov 07 2020 10:07 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

whole neighborhood is cheering, that's how I found out

kcmets Nov 07 2020 10:17 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

[BIGPURPLE]Thank gosh by golly, no more years![/BIGPURPLE]

Benjamin Grimm Nov 07 2020 10:23 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

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MFS62 Nov 07 2020 10:46 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: whole neighborhood is cheering, that's how I found out My wife opened the front door and sounded a noisemaker from a prior New Year celebration. Later

Frayed Knot Nov 07 2020 11:07 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

BIDEN WINS!!!! Several of you will get that reference

Chad ochoseis Nov 07 2020 11:23 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Make America OK Again!

Chad ochoseis Nov 07 2020 11:28 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

And, in news that would've been yuge twelve hours ago, the AP called Nevada for Biden. 279. In the end, it's likely he winds up with 306 EV and a larger popular vote margin than W had over Kerry in 2004.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 07 2020 12:28 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW-HnAfUqA8

MFS62 Nov 07 2020 12:47 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

I hope they're not only going away but, as they say, going away for a long time. I wonder if Ivanka looks good in orange? Later

batmagadanleadoff Nov 07 2020 12:48 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

=MFS62 post_id=50160 time=1604778448 user_id=60] I hope they're not only going away but, as they say, going away for a long time. I wonder if Ivanka looks good in orange? Later

And now it's pardon season so let the pardons begin.

whippoorwill Nov 07 2020 12:50 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: whole neighborhood is cheering, that's how I found out Honestly I found out from my mom but my whole Trumpy neighborhood is out mowing 😂😅🤣😂

Lefty Specialist Nov 07 2020 12:52 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Our long national nightmare is almost over.

MFS62 Nov 07 2020 12:58 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: whole neighborhood is cheering, that's how I found out Honestly I found out from my mom but my whole Trumpy neighborhood is out mowing 😂😅🤣😂 (from whippoorwill on facebook) and then they'll be lowering the tRump flags to half mast on their pickup trucks. Later

G-Fafif Nov 07 2020 01:17 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Sunny Saturday afternoons bathed in record-breaking warmth turn out to make the best election nights.

whippoorwill Nov 07 2020 01:29 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Haha!

batmagadanleadoff Nov 07 2020 01:47 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

I would like to see flash mobs of thousands in front of the White House from now until Inauguration Day in Bob Fosse-like choreographed fashion singing Na Na Na Na, Hey, Hey Hey Hey, Goodbye day and night. Over and over again.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 07 2020 01:48 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

I would like to see flash mobs of thousands in front of the White House from now until Inauguration Day in Bob Fosse-like choreographed fashion singing Na Na Na Na, Hey, Hey Hey Hey, Goodbye day and night. Over and over again. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rb7jllE17yA

batmagadanleadoff Nov 07 2020 01:49 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

I would like to see flash mobs of thousands in front of the White House from now until Inauguration Day in Bob Fosse-like choreographed fashion singing Na Na Na Na, Hey, Hey Hey Hey, Goodbye day and night. Over and over again. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rb7jllE17yA And it's happening! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aTnY8UslTQ

Lefty Specialist Nov 07 2020 05:20 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Lefty Jr. reports DC is ecstatic. Another upside, no more boat parades.

whippoorwill Nov 09 2020 10:33 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

=whippoorwill post_id=49944 time=1604593146 user_id=79] One county over, but yes it's a relief to me that there are SOME rational people nearby :) My daughter lives there!

I'm n state college right now; for a blue zone there sure are a lot of Trump signs

batmagadanleadoff Nov 09 2020 09:54 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=50161 time=1604778506 user_id=68] =MFS62 post_id=50160 time=1604778448 user_id=60] I hope they're not only going away but, as they say, going away for a long time. I wonder if Ivanka looks good in orange? Later

And now it's pardon season so let the pardons begin.






The thought just occurred to me that because Trump is such a scumbag, a psychopath, someone who enjoys inflicting pain on others, that maybe he won't pardon anybody other than himself and his family members.

Fman99 Nov 10 2020 09:16 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

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batmagadanleadoff Nov 10 2020 09:51 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=50313 time=1604984089 user_id=68] =batmagadanleadoff post_id=50161 time=1604778506 user_id=68] =MFS62 post_id=50160 time=1604778448 user_id=60] I hope they're not only going away but, as they say, going away for a long time. I wonder if Ivanka looks good in orange? Later

And now it's pardon season so let the pardons begin.






The thought just occurred to me that because Trump is such a scumbag, a psychopath, someone who enjoys inflicting pain on others, that maybe he won't pardon anybody other than himself and his family members.


This won't play out so long as Trump has ideas about running again in 2024. If so, it's too early for Trump to royally screw people like that.

G-Fafif Nov 10 2020 12:13 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Now to make sure we have a country for the Steve Cohen Mets to become iconic... https://twitter.com/nbcnews/status/1326240171386351617?s=21 Oy.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 10 2020 12:17 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

It was too much to hope that they'd go quietly into the night. But they really should muster whatever microscopic amount of dignity they might have and go quietly into the night.

Lefty Specialist Nov 10 2020 02:08 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Is anybody surprised that they're being dicks about this? They'll drag this out as long as they can, probably into December.

Johnny Lunchbucket Nov 10 2020 02:08 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Trump's will dead and/or in prison by 2024. WRITE IT DOWN

Lefty Specialist Nov 11 2020 06:56 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

I'll take 'and'.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 11 2020 07:03 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

That means they'll keep his decaying corpse in a prison cell?

Lefty Specialist Nov 11 2020 09:09 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Benjamin Grimm wrote: That means they'll keep his decaying corpse in a prison cell? Well, you can't be too careful.

MFS62 Nov 11 2020 09:28 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 11 2020 09:29 AM

Georgia is now going to re-count all of the State's ballots by hand, and is delaying the Senatorial elections until January. Looks like the GOP will delay until the votes can't be finalized before the electoral College meets, throwing the election into the Republican controlled Senate. Looking dicey again. As I type this, the five-time draft dodger is at Arlington, participating in Veterans Day ceremonies. The most patriotic thing he could do today would be to concede the election. Later

Benjamin Grimm Nov 11 2020 09:29 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Biden doesn't need Georgia's electoral votes. And I thought the run-off was already going to be in January?

MFS62 Nov 11 2020 09:30 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Biden doesn't need Georgia's electoral votes. A preview for his actions in other states? Later

Edgy MD Nov 11 2020 10:14 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

The new Congress begins on January 3. It strikes me that, for a few weeks, Georgia will be without any sitting Senators, while Congress is in session. I could be wrong, but that feels like it would be a first. It's certainly remarkable.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 11 2020 10:16 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

And if this somehow lasts past January 20, the Senate would be tied 48-48, with Vice President Harris as the tie-breaking vote, for a very very brief period.

cal sharpie Nov 11 2020 12:17 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

But Alaska and North Carolina have been called for the Republicans so ion January 2 it will be 50-48 GOP.

ashie62 Nov 11 2020 12:47 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Maricopa County and AZ are tightening, about 13,000 different.

Chad ochoseis Nov 11 2020 04:01 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

46K to count in AZ, so Trump would need 63% of the remaining vote to win. He's doing well with the absentee votes, but not that well. Also, many of the remaining votes come from Pima County (Tucson), which is much more Democratic than the Phoenix metro. Not that it matters. The EC is meaningful only because the Constitution tells us it is. Now that Biden's cleared the hurdle, it doesn't matter much whether he gets 2000 more votes or 2000 less votes than Trump in AZ. https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/11/11/arizona-election-live-updates-2020-presidential-election/6243778002/

Lefty Specialist Nov 11 2020 05:19 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

www.loser.com

MFS62 Nov 11 2020 05:53 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Well written, well researched and well documented. And well received - by me. Later

Lefty Specialist Nov 12 2020 05:20 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

There's supposed to be a 'Million MAGA March' in DC this weekend to protest democracy. On the bright side, at least they'll be wearing masks. https://images.dailykos.com/images/882252/large/KKKRally.jpg?1605148863>

Edgy MD Nov 12 2020 05:40 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

I'm going to guess they won't make the "million" mark, even if they keep counting.

whippoorwill Nov 12 2020 06:17 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

I hope it sleets

Frayed Knot Nov 12 2020 06:20 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Edgy MD wrote: I'm going to guess they won't make the "million" mark, even if they keep counting. Or even if they count toes.

whippoorwill Nov 12 2020 06:31 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Heehee!

ashie62 Nov 12 2020 03:22 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Anybody understand todays ruling against Bockvarr in PA today?

Lefty Specialist Nov 12 2020 05:42 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

=ashie62 post_id=50564 time=1605219738 user_id=90] Anybody understand todays ruling against Bockvarr in PA today?

Won't really matter, even if it's not appealed. Only about 10,000 votes were received after election day, and Biden won by over 55,000.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 12 2020 06:31 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Lefty Specialist wrote: =ashie62 post_id=50564 time=1605219738 user_id=90] Anybody understand todays ruling against Bockvarr in PA today? Won't really matter, even if it's not appealed. Only about 10,000 votes were received after election day, and Biden won by over 55,000.

Even better (for Biden). Those disputed ballots that now won't be counted, were never counted to begin with. They're not in the current vote tally and never were. Those ballots were segregated pending further litigation.

Edgy MD Nov 12 2020 10:11 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

If they get away with disenfranchisement, it matters.

Lefty Specialist Nov 13 2020 04:48 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

There's a case to be made, if not necessarily a case to be won, that Boockvar exceeded her authority by extending the deadline to receive votes. Judges tend to honor legislative intent over administrative intent.

Lefty Specialist Nov 13 2020 04:50 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Everybody finally calls Arizona for Biden. Fox and the AP can breathe easier, since they both called it more than a week ago.

ashie62 Nov 13 2020 06:14 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Cool with AZ. Republicans will press constitutionality narrative with PA and Boockvar. Happy to see Karl Rove throw in the towel.

MFS62 Nov 13 2020 06:19 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Happy to see Karl Rove throw in the towel. That's the first time I ever thought of the words "Karl Rove" and "happy" in the same sentence. Later

Lefty Specialist Nov 13 2020 06:24 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Yes, but Rudy is prepared to fight this all the way to the Supreme Courtyard by Marriott.

Fman99 Nov 13 2020 07:08 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Lefty Specialist wrote: Yes, but Rudy is prepared to fight this all the way to the Supreme Courtyard by Marriott. Good one! As long as there's a dildo store nearby, they can have their pressers wherever they wish.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 13 2020 12:18 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

NBC calls Trump the projected winner of North Carolina and Biden the apparent winner of Georgia. NBC has, further, updated its electoral vote tally to give Biden 306 electoral votes.

Fman99 Nov 13 2020 12:52 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=50613 time=1605295100 user_id=68] NBC calls Trump the projected winner of North Carolina and Biden the apparent winner of Georgia. NBC has, further, updated its electoral vote tally to give Biden 306 electoral votes.

A number that the Doucher in Chief referred to as a blowout in 2016. Lost by that same count. Oh, poetic justice, you have some sexy big tits.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 13 2020 01:11 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Joe Biden is now the first Democrat since Harry Truman in 1948 to carry both Arizona and Georgia in the same presidential election.

LWFS Nov 13 2020 01:32 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Lefty Specialist wrote: There's a case to be made, if not necessarily a case to be won, that Boockvar exceeded her authority by extending the deadline to receive votes. Judges tend to honor legislative intent over administrative intent. Reversed today, it seems.

kcmets Nov 13 2020 03:12 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Dude sporting a grey (versus fake blonde) coiffure in a late afternoon appearance. Predict a Sunday afternoon concession loaded with a lot of martyrdom.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 13 2020 03:19 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

I keep reading that he's "despondent" and "dejected" and all I can think is: GOOD!

Frayed Knot Nov 13 2020 04:59 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

I don't particularly give a shit if he never concedes as his agreement with the results isn't a prerequisite for carrying out the results.

kcmets Nov 13 2020 05:30 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

I don't particularly give a shit either, just chiming in...

Lefty Specialist Nov 13 2020 06:11 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

He's never going to concede. But he has to stop blocking the GSA from letting the transition team do their work. I like sulky, deflated Trump. It's tasty.

Edgy MD Nov 13 2020 08:06 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

I kind of give a shit. Displaying the vulnerabilities in the processes and institutions of our democracy exposes our throats. No small part of the 9/11 Report was how the foreshortened transition following the 2000 election deeply undermined the nation's readiness.

whippoorwill Nov 14 2020 08:41 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Lefty Specialist wrote: Yes, but Rudy is prepared to fight this all the way to the Supreme Courtyard by Marriott. The thought of Rudy leading the charge is hilarious

MFS62 Nov 14 2020 01:48 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

I want there to be a re-count so he would re-lose. Later

whippoorwill Nov 14 2020 02:17 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

That would be great. Haha!

Lefty Specialist Nov 15 2020 08:23 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Well, he's going to lose Wisconsin and Georgia again, as they're both re-counting.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 15 2020 03:21 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Trump loathing pranksters make Trump staffers cry. Good! Trump campaign shuts down 'voter fraud' hotline after it's flooded with prank calls Excerpt: President Donald Trump's campaign has shut down its “voter fraud” hotline as it struggles to put forward any shred of evidence to support its claims of wrongdoing during the election. After a week of receiving supposed tips from voters that could help prove their claims, it seems that the campaign did not think it was worth it to keep the phone lines open anymore and is instead directing people to fill out a form online. A main reason for shutting down the hotline was because it was flooded with prank calls. Numerous reports over the past few days noted that a viral campaign on TikTok and Twitter encouraged people to flood the hotline with prank calls and many did just that. The Trump campaign blamed Democrats. “The DNC is spamming our voter fraud hotline to bog down the thousands of complaints we are receiving!” Eric Trump said in a tweet. “Wonder what they have to hide.” It seems receiving those calls was traumatizing for some Trump staffers who were told to answer the phones in what one worker characterized as the “room from hell.” Low-level campaign workers were ordered to just sit there and listen to the calls that included lots of pranks such as people impersonating public figures and making fart noises, but also death threats. Amid all the prank calls and threats, staffers said they probably received one actual tip they could use every three to four hours. “It's misery. It's one of the worst ways to end a campaign that you could think of,” a staffer tells the Daily Beast. That staffer said the calls were so traumatizing that they had to go to the bathroom to cry. The campaign shut down the hotline at a time when its legal strategy to contest votes also appears to be faltering. There have been so many lawsuits filed in swing states that no one really knows how many there are, but it does seem clear the vast majority of them are failing miserably as judges chastise lawyers for presenting cases based solely on speculation with nothing to back up their claims. “They're throwing the kitchen sink against the wall to see what sticks — a mixed metaphor that's deserving of this legal strategy. And ‘legal strategy' should be in quotes,” Ben Ginsberg, a veteran Republican election law attorney, told Politico. https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/11/trump-campaign-shuts-down-fraud-hotline-prank-calls.html

Fman99 Nov 15 2020 09:05 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Yeah I found enjoyment in that story I will admit. Serves those worms right.

nymr83 Nov 16 2020 05:34 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Lefty Specialist wrote: Well, he's going to lose Wisconsin and Georgia again, as they're both re-counting. Yes, he is still going to lose. He trails by 14k+ votes in Georgia - they just found 2600 votes from a Republican-leaning county that were never counted! This netted about 800 Trump votes - seems like a good enough reason to recount, but it wont help him.

Frayed Knot Nov 16 2020 06:30 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Yeah, recounts rarely net more than a few hundred votes shifting one way or the other and he'd have to flip thousands in each state he's contesting. That simply ain't happenin' And in the end it still won't shut him up because he'll complain, just as all conspiracy theorists do, that the lack of evidence just demonstrates how deeply the evidence is being hidden. After all, he still insists that he won the popular vote last time.

Lefty Specialist Nov 17 2020 04:54 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

So the end game seems to be- throw as much shit at the wall as you can, complain that the election was stolen even though you lack any evidence, and refuse to concede. I have no idea what the Inauguration is going to look like, but I'm betting Trump won't be there. (no great loss) The talk of him running in 2024 is just a way to grift and to stay in the conversation. It does lock down all the Trump 2.0 wannabes like Tom Cotton, Josh Hawley and Kristy Noem for the foreseeable future, though. As far as actually doing the job of being president, Trump seems to have checked out. COVID cases are spiking all over the country and this administration is sitting on its hands, apparently wishing for complete disaster. Dangerous times.

Edgy MD Nov 17 2020 06:52 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

I'm less concerned with the president returning for a 2024 campaign than I am with a more energetic cutout (Vice President Pence ... Don Jr. ...) reviving his army of ignorance. Also, it looks like Senator Graham may have violated any number of state and federal laws in trying to influence Georgia's Secretary of State to put his hand on the scale, supposedly encouraging him to throw out legal ballots.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 17 2020 01:04 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Edgy MD wrote: Also, it looks like Senator Graham may have violated any number of state and federal laws in trying to influence Georgia's Secretary of State to put his hand on the scale, supposedly encouraging him to throw out legal ballots. I guess that'll be another something for Bill Barr's successor to investigate. A criminal conviction of that scumbag toady would be preferable to a conviction in an impeachment trial, which ain't happening anyways.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 17 2020 01:19 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Who is responsible for impeaching a senator? Is it the Congress? Or can the state that he represents do it?

MFS62 Nov 17 2020 02:19 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

The inmates are taking over the asylum - the infighting for control of the last gasp legal efforts to overthrow the election results: https://www.yahoo.com/gma/infighting-attempted-coup-trump-team-192600775.html Over the weekend, Giuliani and his own team of lawyers, which also includes Trump campaign legal adviser Jenna Ellis, attempted what was described to ABC News as an internal campaign "coup"— an attempt to wrestle power away from the current longstanding Trump campaign leadership by claiming the president had given them full control moving forward, multiple sources said. Later

batmagadanleadoff Nov 17 2020 02:45 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Who is responsible for impeaching a senator? Is it the Congress? Or can the state that he represents do it? Oh, that vague Constitution. It's not clear whether a US Senator qualifies as a civil officer who is thus, subject to impeachment. But under Art.1, Sec. 5, the Senate itself may remove or expel any of its members with a 2/3 vote. Since 1789, 15 senators have been expelled by this method.

Edgy MD Nov 17 2020 02:57 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

And all who have been expelled met their fate by 1862, and most because they were Confederate supporters. Since then, in a foreshadowing of the fecklessness of the Senate as an enforcement body, dozens have faced expulsion hearings (poor Reed Smoot), but none of have been expelled, though some have pulled a Nixon and resigned rather than face the vote.

MFS62 Nov 17 2020 04:19 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

The Georgia audit found no foul play with voting machines: https://www.georgiapol.com/2020/11/17/sos-raffensperger-no-sign-of-foul-play-with-voting-machines/ Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger last week ordered Pro V&V, a U.S. Election Assistance Commission certified testing laboratory, to do an audit of a random sample of machines to confirm no hack or tamper: “Pro V&V found no evidence of the machines being tampered.” Shove it, Lindsay. Later

batmagadanleadoff Nov 17 2020 04:26 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

The Georgia audit found no foul play with voting machines: https://www.georgiapol.com/2020/11/17/sos-raffensperger-no-sign-of-foul-play-with-voting-machines/ Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger last week ordered Pro V&V, a U.S. Election Assistance Commission certified testing laboratory, to do an audit of a random sample of machines to confirm no hack or tamper: “Pro V&V found no evidence of the machines being tampered.” Shove it, Lindsay. Later The silver lining in Brian Kemp's defeat of Stacey Abrams in Georgia's last gubernatorial election is that Kemp is no longer Georgia's Secretary of State. Otherwise, Biden would have never, ever, not even for a millisecond, have had a lead over Trump. Kemp would've carried out the GOP's worst instincts, as announced by the scumbag Georgia Republican US Senators and Graham, cheating and ratfucking the election to ensure that Trump carried Georgia.

Lefty Specialist Nov 17 2020 06:03 PM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Trump fires top U.S. election security official who led efforts to debunk voter-fraud claims Because of course he did.

whippoorwill Nov 18 2020 06:51 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Ooooo Rudy Guiliani's here to take on the big bad Democrats; I'm so scared. https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-new-york-new-york-city-pennsylvania-elections-b81328c5a74ab348d8b7e21f93eed3f9

metsmarathon Nov 18 2020 07:42 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

i feel like maybe, just maybe, we should impeach trump again. and maybe this time remove him from office. or invoke the 25th amendment. one of these things.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 18 2020 07:47 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Or everyone can keep enabling him, because they're afraid of the big orange baby's tantrums.

Edgy MD Nov 18 2020 07:57 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

You know that I'm all for another impeachment, right up to and including January 20. I understand why he fired Director Krebs though. If we didn't test for election fraud, we wouldn't know that we had so little of it, or something.

kcmets Nov 18 2020 08:36 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Edgy MD wrote: You know that I'm all for another impeachment, right up to and including January 20 I'm all in for propping him up in a corner of the Oval Office in a straightjacket and muzzle and let him stew the next 60 some odd days.

MFS62 Nov 18 2020 09:05 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

=kcmets post_id=50882 time=1605713818 user_id=53] I'm all in for propping him up in a corner of the Oval Office in a straightjacket and muzzle and let him stew the next 60 some odd days.

The best reason for the straightjacket is to keep his hand off the button. That he still has access terrifies me.

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TransMonk Nov 18 2020 09:20 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

Trump petitions for a recount in WI in just two counties: Dane and Milwaukee. I am on the call list to recount ballots in Dane if needed.

kcmets Nov 18 2020 09:35 AM Re: IENT (In Election Night Thread) - Trump vs Biden

=MFS62 post_id=50885 time=1605715516 user_id=60]The best reason for the straightjacket is to keep his hand off the button. That he still has access terrifies me.

Eh, button schmutton... I just want him to shut the fuck up... (and quietly stew)...