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Wednesday in Non-Tender Spaghetti Day

Frayed Knot Dec 01 2020 11:11 AM

So tomorrow is the deadline for teams to offer -- or not offer -- contracts to their pre-FA guys not already under contract for 2021 Ken Davidoff in the Post makes a case For keeping Matz

whippoorwill Dec 01 2020 12:48 PM Re: Wednesday in Non-Tender Spaghetti Day

Aaaaah now I need spaghetti!

smg58 Dec 01 2020 01:07 PM Re: Wednesday in Non-Tender Spaghetti Day

I would argue that a 4.17 ERA over 128 IP isn't worth $5M in a normal market, much less this one. I wouldn't be surprised if some better players than Matz get non-tendered.

Lefty Specialist Dec 01 2020 01:20 PM Re: Wednesday in Non-Tender Spaghetti Day

Hey, it's Steve's money. I tend to think most of Matz's problems are between his ears.

ashie62 Dec 02 2020 07:23 AM Re: Wednesday in Non-Tender Spaghetti Day

I would tender Matz and hope for the best. I have trouble knocking down players who sucked in 2020. The season was an unfair fight. And, I kinda like Matz anyway. Matz would get 5m and Stroman does get 18m. Seems like a disconnect.

Johnny Lunchbucket Dec 02 2020 07:39 AM Re: Wednesday in Non-Tender Spaghetti Day

Matz pisses me off. If he weren't an Omar-era draftee and native Long Islander he'd have been the one to go and not Wheeler. I'd have traded him five times already. Destined I think to be a Brave and pitch really well against the Mets but also, lose plenty of 4-run leads against shit teams and sing country gospel

Lefty Specialist Dec 02 2020 01:04 PM Re: Wednesday in Non-Tender Spaghetti Day

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: Matz pisses me off. If he weren't an Omar-era draftee and native Long Islander he'd have been the one to go and not Wheeler. I'd have traded him five times already. Destined I think to be a Brave and pitch really well against the Mets but also, lose plenty of 4-run leads against shit teams and sing country gospel This. I don't think he'll ever put it together as a Met, but once he leaves he'll kill them.

whippoorwill Dec 02 2020 01:42 PM Re: Wednesday in Non-Tender Spaghetti Day

Of course, they all do

G-Fafif Dec 02 2020 06:13 PM Re: Wednesday in Non-Tender Spaghetti Day

Matzie tendered. Gsellman will be, too. Shreve not so much.

G-Fafif Dec 02 2020 06:15 PM Re: Wednesday in Non-Tender Spaghetti Day

Guillermo Heredia sticking around as well.

G-Fafif Dec 02 2020 06:24 PM Re: Wednesday in Non-Tender Spaghetti Day

https://twitter.com/anthonydicomo/status/1334306684580335621?s=21

G-Fafif Dec 02 2020 06:27 PM Re: Wednesday in Non-Tender Spaghetti Day

https://twitter.com/mets/status/1334305723740794880?s=21

Johnny Lunchbucket Dec 02 2020 06:30 PM Re: Wednesday in Non-Tender Spaghetti Day

Paul Sewald Era is over. Damn. I thought Shreeve was aight last year, at least what little of it I can remember

Benjamin Grimm Dec 02 2020 06:50 PM Re: Wednesday in Non-Tender Spaghetti Day

I thought so too. Shreve didn't seem to be part of the problem.

Edgy MD Dec 02 2020 07:17 PM Re: Wednesday in Non-Tender Spaghetti Day

Shreveport was also the only lefty in an eight-man pen. Of course, now Matz becomes that guy. But the off-season is young. Tropeano sure came and went without leaving a mark. Probably failed an intelligence test, right, Wolfie?

nymr83 Dec 02 2020 10:13 PM Re: Wednesday in Non-Tender Spaghetti Day

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I thought so too. Shreve didn't seem to be part of the problem. Shreve was out of options. The Athletic's Tim Britton made a great point here as to why Robert Gsellman was retained and why it was a very good move - [url]https://theathletic.com/2235979/2020/12/02/what-we-learned-about-the-mets-offseason-plans-from-the-non-tender-deadline/ Unlike the non-tendered Chasen Shreve in the bullpen, Gsellman has options remaining and can move back and forth between the majors and minors. A guy with a league-average ERA doing a lot of set-up and closing work, as Gsellman did in 2018 and 2019, is not ideal. A guy with a league-average ERA being your shuttle reliever is more of a luxury than you realize. Check out the cumulative ERA of optionable relievers who spent time in both the majors and minors for the Mets in each of the last three seasons: Cumulative ERA of optionable relievers [I edited this as it was originally a chart that didn't copy well] 2018 - 5.72 2019 - 6.68 2020 - 8.41 Gsellman is better than that, and it doesn't cost the Mets a lot to keep him. He also reported that Matz's and Heredia's one year deals aren't fully guaranteed until Opening Day.

MFS62 Dec 03 2020 06:00 AM Re: Wednesday in Non-Tender Spaghetti Day

Trackie was surprised Shreve got cut, too. (Audio ) https://sports.yahoo.com/andy-martino-explains-why-mets-021510984.html Later

seawolf17 Dec 03 2020 06:27 AM Re: Wednesday in Non-Tender Spaghetti Day

Well, good thing I didn't buy that Mets Tropeano jersey. (Although I'd bet they bring him back as an NRI.)