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Where were you when... overrated when determining fandom?

stevejrogers Dec 27 2020 10:04 AM

It hasn't blown up too much yet, but a noted nostalgia based Met blogger noted that in the quick-fire Q&A article Steven Cohen did with the NY Post, Cohen couldn't account for his whereabouts when a certain little roller was evading the clutches of Bill Buckner's glove, despite claiming he did see the play among fellow fans. And eventually purchasing the ball. I'd argue that it could be deflecting some darker and private reasoning that he'd rather not disclose. But this was picked up on by the social media user as a sign that Cohen might be a “fraudulent fan.” In his blog piece this morning he also picks up on a thing in the same article where Cohen uses no specific moments when describing Darryl Strawberry's presence as a hitter, and gets on the author for not following up, or at least printing a retort. It is a bit of a two hands things though. One hand, yeah that is a moment that cognizant Met fans should recall, even decades later, various details about where and how they experienced it. And over the decades has turned to be THE moment of that season, more so than the final out two days later. And while there are those who say “I don't remember what I had for breakfast last week...” it's the long term memory that manages to come back into focus, especially when constantly reminded that the moment existed. But on the other hand it's still a moment of popcorn entertainment, compared to moments that are more intensely personal (marriage, births, deaths, etc) or profound (9/11, noted deaths, etc). Anyway, it could be more this guy being a troll trying to poke holes in the “Cohen is the franchise's savior because he is a fan” narrative, but it does make for a lazy Sunday conversation ;)

Johnny Lunchbucket Dec 27 2020 02:27 PM Re: Where were you when... overrated when determining fandom?

Eh, I didn't see the Buckner play live either and nobody questions my bonafides. ( I told this story before but was at a camping trip in the woods and informed what was happening by 1 guy listening in his car (Agglera fuckin blew it!) and then another guy 30 minutes later (leaping, Buckner! Mookie!). It's not like Cohen pretends to be a real fan like Jeff Wilpon... Or Matz

whippoorwill Dec 27 2020 03:50 PM Re: Where were you when... overrated when determining fandom?

On a lounge chair in my house in Lock Haven wishing someone would invent cell phones so I could keep watching and still call my dad

stevejrogers Dec 27 2020 04:05 PM Re: Where were you when... overrated when determining fandom?

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: Eh, I didn't see the Buckner play live either and nobody questions my bonafides. ( I told this story before but was at a camping trip in the woods and informed what was happening by 1 guy listening in his car (Agglera fuckin blew it!) and then another guy 30 minutes later (leaping, Buckner! Mookie!). Point by the tweeter was that Cohen didn't recall where he was, like you can with the Bucket Camping Trip, and that he's the only one that seemingly cares that Cohen can't account for his whereabouts. Nothing to do with seeing the event as it happened. Which he said in the Post article, just that he didn't remember where. While he doesn't strike me as the type who'd fully indulge in the Jordan Belfort/Wolf of Wall Street style debauchery, but he was someone that just turned 30 that summer, and Wall Street was some 350 days away from Black Monday...I'd wager he'd rather not disclose where he saw it, or genuinely blocked everything about that night, except the game from his memory! Speculation aside, that's more the point, can you claim actual fandom, as opposed to “fraudulent” by being able to, if you are old and cognizant enough, provide full accounting of where and how you experienced easily the biggest moment in your favorite team's history.

Edgy MD Dec 27 2020 04:43 PM Re: Where were you when... overrated when determining fandom?

I'm not sure I remember where I was — most likely because it was Saturday night and I was probably watching alone at my parents' house like the massive sad sack I was.

kcmets Dec 27 2020 05:03 PM Re: Where were you when... overrated when determining fandom?

Chase St Worcester, NY 12197

G-Fafif Dec 27 2020 05:54 PM Re: Where were you when... overrated when determining fandom?

Ponying up $2.4 billion to pry team from Jeff Wilpon's hands >>> specific Darryl Strawberry at-bat anecdote.

Benjamin Grimm Dec 27 2020 06:17 PM Re: Where were you when... overrated when determining fandom?

I was in the Shea Stadium Upper Deck, high above first base.

Fman99 Dec 27 2020 07:08 PM Re: Where were you when... overrated when determining fandom?

This is some bored off-season who-gives-a-fig nonsense if you ask me.

Edgy MD Dec 27 2020 07:43 PM Re: Where were you when... overrated when determining fandom?

You're a lifelong Mets fan who made it big in the world of big money, and went and bought the team. In order to begin building a positive connection with the fanbase, you consent to take questions from the field. A "noted nostalgia based Met blogger" asks you for a specific Darryl Strawberry memory, preferably an at-bat memory. What is your answer?

stevejrogers Dec 27 2020 08:07 PM Re: Where were you when... overrated when determining fandom?

Edgy MD wrote: You're a lifelong Mets fan who made it big in the world of big money, and went and bought the team. In order to begin building a positive connection with the fanbase, you consent to take questions from the field. A "noted nostalgia based Met blogger" asks you for a specific Darryl Strawberry memory, preferably an at-bat memory. What is your answer? The "noted nostalgia based Met blogger" on his blog post about it threw up the Olympic Stadium roof and Busch Stadium clock moonshots as “examples.”

Edgy MD Dec 27 2020 08:39 PM Re: Where were you when... overrated when determining fandom?

Both excellent defining moments. My most defining memory was an extra-inning foul ball he hit in his first MLB game. It shook me out of a state I'd been in since 1977.

batmagadanleadoff Dec 27 2020 09:38 PM Re: Where were you when... overrated when determining fandom?

What in the name of Tony the tuttsi fruttsi ice cream salesman is going on here with this thread? It hasn't blown up too much yet.... Tell me when it does blow up, whatever you're talking about. but a noted nostalgia based Met blogger noted that.... Do I need to buy the secret Met blogger decoder volume of books from Chico Marx to figure out who the noted nostalgia based Mets blogger is? How about a name? And a fucking link to the article? I'd argue that it could be deflecting some darker and private reasoning that [Cohen'd] rather not disclose.... I think Cohen was raping 10 nuns with a broomstick that he shoved up their counts. What else could it be? Nothing else. That's what. Uh, oh. I added the letter "o" to "that" word. Now I'm in trouble. Can't say count around Rogers. He hates it when I say count. In his blog piece this morning he also picks up on a thing in the same article where Cohen uses no specific moments when describing Darryl Strawberry's presence as a hitter, and gets on the author for not following up, or at least printing a retort. Who, Rogers, Who? Or maybe you prefer Whom, Rogers? Whom? Whom's blog piece? What's the secret? And a link? Thank you. Did it blow up yet?

stevejrogers Dec 27 2020 10:11 PM Re: Where were you when... overrated when determining fandom?

Tell me when it does blow up, whatever you're talking about. Don't worry, that's not some Twitter lingo, but it simply means it hasn't sparked the discussion I'd imagine he had hoped for. Do I need to buy the secret Met blogger decoder volume of books from Chico Marx to figure out who the noted nostalgia based Mets blogger is? How about a name? And a fucking link to the article? Despite me talking about him, I'd rather not out one of Greg and Jason's competitors. But if you really want to know, it's MetsPolice. The thing about not knowing where he was exactly for Game Six, and the lack of a followup started as a Twitter response to Steve Serby's Q&A piece in the NY Post that Shannon, author of MetsPolice.com, saw Howie Rose retweet. https://nypost.com/2020/12/26/steve-cohen-taking-fan-centric-approach-to-mets-ownership/ Then he put his thoughts on his site https://www.metspolice.com/2020/12/27/steve-cohen-doesnt-know-where-he-was-for-the-buckner-play/ HAPPY, PAPPY!? Can't say count around Rogers. He hates it when I say count. What would make you think that?

G-Fafif Dec 27 2020 10:17 PM Re: Where were you when... overrated when determining fandom?

Shannon is a Friend of FAFIF. His name can be uttered with our blessing.

stevejrogers Dec 27 2020 10:25 PM Re: Where were you when... overrated when determining fandom?

Edgy MD wrote: Both excellent defining moments. My most defining memory was an extra-inning foul ball he hit in his first MLB game. It shook me out of a state I'd been in since 1977. At least he didn't cheekily say his homer at Shea as a MFYer that made the Apple go half way ;) Anyway, the article in the Post is linked above, clearly it wasn't the type of piece that detailed lists of memories were to be expected.

G-Fafif Dec 27 2020 10:37 PM Re: Where were you when... overrated when determining fandom?

Q: Favorite Darryl Strawberry memories? A: He had that long, smooth lefty swing. You knew that every time he came up he could hit a home run. Evocative answer, akin to Seaver's dirt-stained knee or Aaron's quick wrists.