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Perhaps a discussion of these once dominant, oft-injured pitchers is appropriate for today

A Boy Named Seo
Jan 06 2021 09:36 AM

MLBTR sez the Mets are keeping tabs on Corey Kluber and James Paxton. Klubes will be 35 and 3 years removed from his last bit of dominance, in 2018. Paxton just turned 32 and was last good in 2019.



Kluber won 2 Cy Youngs and was a top-shelf, #1 ace guy for 5 years. He's had shoulder woes, but as a big-spin guy, he hasn't really lost much velo.



Paxton lost 3 full ticks off his big fastball last year, which probably helped shape his 6+ ERA. He still averaged 11 K/9 but this dude is always injured.



Do either/both of these dudes interest you? I'm a little gun-shy on formerly talented dudes who lost big velocity, but both of these guys are better than Porcello and Wacha were. I think Kluber as a depth signing would be wonderful.

Centerfield
Jan 06 2021 09:39 AM
Re: Perhaps a discussion of these once dominant, oft-injured pitchers is appropriate for today

How healthy are each of these guys now?

A Boy Named Seo
Jan 06 2021 10:03 AM
Re: Perhaps a discussion of these once dominant, oft-injured pitchers is appropriate for today

=Centerfield post_id=53320 time=1609951141 user_id=65]
How healthy are each of these guys now?



¯\_(ツ)_/¯



Paxton threw at a showcase in December and was reported to have hit 94 (about where he was last year, but 3 MPH less than the year before). Kluber is rehabbing a shoulder tear and is throwing for teams next week. The Mets will be there.

Edgy MD
Jan 06 2021 10:11 AM
Re: Perhaps a discussion of these once dominant, oft-injured pitchers is appropriate for today

A Boy Named Seo wrote:
¯\_(ツ)_/¯


That sums it up, doesn't it?



And as with so many late-career reclamation projects, who you go for or don't go for may be too dependent on which days you happen to be scouting him, from which it's hard to gauge how many times through the rotation his arm is going to respond.



You don't want to miss an opportunity in signing such a guy, but you sure want to be in a position where you have to go into the season depending on him for anything.

Benjamin Grimm
Jan 06 2021 10:11 AM
Re: Perhaps a discussion of these once dominant, oft-injured pitchers is appropriate for today

Whatever happened to the "gourmet food aisle"?

A Boy Named Seo
Jan 06 2021 10:19 AM
Re: Perhaps a discussion of these once dominant, oft-injured pitchers is appropriate for today

Edgy MD wrote:

A Boy Named Seo wrote:
¯\_(ツ)_/¯


That sums it up, doesn't it?



And as with so many late-career reclamation projects, who you go for or don't go for may be too dependent on which days you happen to be scouting him, from which it's hard to gauge how many times through the rotation his arm is going to respond.



You don't want to miss an opportunity in signing such a guy, but you sure want to be in a position where you have to go into the season depending on him for anything.


Yeah, I think you nailed it and Rich Hill strikes me as this kinda guy. Still very good when he's on the hill, but if you get 120 innings out of him, you're probably thrilled. Kluber (or Paxton) as one of 7 or 8 starters intrigues me, though.