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It seems only logical that we should engage in discussion on the topic of one Kris Bryant

A Boy Named Seo Jan 08 2021 01:47 PM

Lunchbucket mentioned him another thread, and the last couple of days have yielded reports claiming that the Mets have talked to the Cubs about Bryant, with the Cubs seemingly eager to shed his salary. I mean, why the hell not, right? Well, he's 29, set to make $18.6M this year and a FA the next. He has a world of talent but a bunch of injuries lately. If the deal is right, I could fancy him as a one-year rental.

bmfc1 Jan 09 2021 07:46 AM Re: It seems only logical that we should engage in discussion on the topic of one Kris Bryant

The Cubs are rebuilding (I don't know why as they have the fans, their own network, and play in a shrine) and Kris Bryant is on the market. https://www.fangraphs.com/players/kris-bryant/15429/stats?position=3B He's only 1 season removed from a 4.8 WAR. His 2020 was very bad but it was for a lot of us. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kris_Bryant This is a good overview of his career with an oddly specific (for Wiki) note at the end of the 2020 paragraph. https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/kris-bryant-592178?stats=statcast-r-fielding-mlb I think that this shows that he is a "meh" fielder. Bigger minds than mine have to decide if he's still "got it" or if he's on a downward slope. I wonder if he'd merely provide the same numbers as JD at a much higher cost (which could impede spending elsewhere).

Benjamin Grimm Jan 26 2021 06:53 AM Re: It seems only logical that we should engage in discussion on the topic of one Kris Bryant

Mets turn to ex-MVP as Plan C after whiffing on Yankees' DJ LeMahieu, Blue Jays' George Springer

bmfc1 Jan 26 2021 08:22 AM Re: It seems only logical that we should engage in discussion on the topic of one Kris Bryant

"whiffing" I'm sure that Steve and Sandy would describe it differently.

Edgy MD Jan 26 2021 08:29 AM Re: It seems only logical that we should engage in discussion on the topic of one Kris Bryant

I would too. I assume Bryant would be the team's primary thirdbaseman, with maybe a few cameos in the outfield. He's probably still a good bet to be an upgrade from J.D. Davis, even after a crappy 2020. You think Davis would be part of the package?

MFS62 Jan 26 2021 08:40 AM Re: It seems only logical that we should engage in discussion on the topic of one Kris Bryant

He would have to be. They are running out of spots for him, especially since the Players Union announced they are against the DH (in the NL this year). Later

A Boy Named Seo Jan 26 2021 08:44 AM Re: It seems only logical that we should engage in discussion on the topic of one Kris Bryant

First, these rumors don't sound like anything but one dude guessing. That said, I almost like the idea of Bryant more than the other dudes. He's on the right side of 30, former MVP, could come cheap(er) than you'd expect with his recent injury history. He fills what I think is a real need (RH bat, competent fielder at 3B + OF). And he's only got a year left. A full return to the real Kris Bryant makes the Mets lineup insanely good and deep and they have to figure out if/how to re-sign him. And if he falls flat, he's probably JD Davis anyway and see ya.

kcmets Jan 26 2021 08:51 AM Re: It seems only logical that we should engage in discussion on the topic of one Kris Bryant

If taking on the salary dump is the major part of the trade, why not? I wouldn't want to ship off too many youngins as well.

Benjamin Grimm Jan 26 2021 08:51 AM Re: It seems only logical that we should engage in discussion on the topic of one Kris Bryant

Maybe, maybe not. (On Davis being included.) The Mets might want to keep Davis for depth. Jared said that he thinks it's important to have depth and redundancy. (Jared is gone, I've heard, but that may still be the organization's philosophy.) So maybe Davis for Bryant. Or it might be Familia or Betances or Matz. (I say this not having any idea what the Cubs' needs are. I just know that each of the three makes a lot less than Bryant will.)

Johnny Lunchbucket Jan 26 2021 08:55 AM Re: It seems only logical that we should engage in discussion on the topic of one Kris Bryant

The issue may also be the best deal we can make for JDD, if we're prepared to move him to improve still. There's online speculation he could go to Milwaukee in a deal for Cain, parhaps, guy on Twitter imagines, with familia and getting back pretend deGrom LHRP Josh "Black and gay" Hader.

A Boy Named Seo Jan 26 2021 09:06 AM Re: It seems only logical that we should engage in discussion on the topic of one Kris Bryant

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: The issue may also be the best deal we can make for JDD, if we're prepared to move him to improve still. There's online speculation he could go to Milwaukee in a deal for Cain, parhaps, guy on Twitter imagines, with familia and getting back pretend deGrom LHRP Josh "Black and gay" Hader. That's a spicy scoop!

A Boy Named Seo Jan 26 2021 09:07 AM Re: It seems only logical that we should engage in discussion on the topic of one Kris Bryant

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Maybe, maybe not. (On Davis being included.) The Mets might want to keep Davis for depth. Jared said that he thinks it's important to have depth and redundancy. (Jared is gone, I've heard, but that may still be the organization's philosophy.) So maybe Davis for Bryant. Or it might be Familia or Betances or Matz. (I say this not having any idea what the Cubs' needs are. I just know that each of the three makes a lot less than Bryant will.) I read somewhere that said Jed Hoyer thought the Cubs had their longtime, championship core and it didn't really come to fruition, and they since couldn't sign guys like Bryant to extensions anyway, so they want to re-load with younger, cheaper dudes. I know it's not apples for apples, but they did take on the salary of an expiring contract in the Darvish trade (Zach Davies, ~$8M) along with 4 really young kids, so maybe some combo of JD Davis, Steven Matz and two barely legals gets it done. I wish we could convince them that Familia is AWESOME and they want him, too. I feel like Bryant's floor is JD Davis (and they play the same positions), so I'm kinda into it.

Edgy MD Jan 26 2021 09:45 AM Re: It seems only logical that we should engage in discussion on the topic of one Kris Bryant

Sheesh, bringing in Hader and Bauer in one fell swoop would really be going all-in on Operation Douchebag.

TransMonk Jan 26 2021 10:59 AM Re: It seems only logical that we should engage in discussion on the topic of one Kris Bryant

Edgy MD wrote: Sheesh, bringing in Hader and Bauer in one fell swoop would really be going all-in on Operation Douchebag. Ugh.

Lefty Specialist Jan 26 2021 11:34 AM Re: It seems only logical that we should engage in discussion on the topic of one Kris Bryant

Run, don't walk, away from the aptly-named Hader.

A Boy Named Seo Jan 26 2021 11:53 AM Re: It seems only logical that we should engage in discussion on the topic of one Kris Bryant

Man, I was thinking about young Hader, tweeting stupid shit and hoping people give him a little leeway for growth and that. Then I looked up his old tweets and they're pretty fucked up. Whatever team employs him, I hope he's grown up and learned a few things.

Centerfield Jan 26 2021 12:19 PM Re: It seems only logical that we should engage in discussion on the topic of one Kris Bryant

Fuck Hader. Let's go get Bryant. What does it cost us realistically?

Johnny Lunchbucket Jan 26 2021 12:52 PM Re: It seems only logical that we should engage in discussion on the topic of one Kris Bryant

Davis and a shit prospect is where I start. Cubs wanna save the $$? Then save the $$

Benjamin Grimm Jan 26 2021 01:00 PM Re: It seems only logical that we should engage in discussion on the topic of one Kris Bryant

I would start with Familia or Matz plus the shit prospect.

Centerfield Feb 05 2021 02:26 PM Re: It seems only logical that we should engage in discussion on the topic of one Kris Bryant

Might be the only big fish left to be had.

Edgy MD Feb 05 2021 02:28 PM Re: It seems only logical that we should engage in discussion on the topic of one Kris Bryant

Nah, the big fish is a trout.

LWFS Feb 05 2021 04:05 PM Re: It seems only logical that we should engage in discussion on the topic of one Kris Bryant

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: Davis and a shit prospect is where I start. Cubs wanna save the $$? Then save the $$ Davis and a shit prospect sounds good. You want a prospect prospect? Throw in Hendricks. Then we sign Almora for 4th OF, and we've got a Cub Alumni Club to go along with our Clevelander one.

Centerfield Feb 05 2021 04:32 PM Re: It seems only logical that we should engage in discussion on the topic of one Kris Bryant

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: Davis and a shit prospect is where I start. Cubs wanna save the $$? Then save the $$ Davis and a shit prospect sounds good. You want a prospect prospect? Throw in Hendricks. Then we sign Almora for 4th OF, and we've got a Cub Alumni Club to go along with our Clevelander one. This would make me happy.

MFS62 Feb 05 2021 05:29 PM Re: It seems only logical that we should engage in discussion on the topic of one Kris Bryant

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: Davis and a shit prospect is where I start. Cubs wanna save the $$? Then save the $$ Davis and a shit prospect sounds good. You want a prospect prospect? Throw in Hendricks. Then we sign Almora for 4th OF, and we've got a Cub Alumni Club to go along with our Clevelander one. SNY mentions an alternative pair: https://sports.yahoo.com/why-mets-could-better-off-215435044.html Or the Mets can turn to the Cincinnati Reds and try to kill two birds with one stone by trading for Sonny Gray and Eugenio Suarez. Don't know what they would have to give up, but Suarez is making $15 million and if Cincy is looking for a salary dump, Gray will be making $12 million. Davis (Who would probably be in that trade) just got $2.1 million. what else ??? Later

whippoorwill Feb 05 2021 05:58 PM Re: It seems only logical that we should engage in discussion on the topic of one Kris Bryant

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Johnny Lunchbucket Feb 06 2021 08:05 AM Re: It seems only logical that we should engage in discussion on the topic of one Kris Bryant

I'm into this Bryant and Hendricks deal. I'll even throw in Miguel Castro and Jordan Yamamoto to make it happen.

LWFS Feb 06 2021 11:18 AM Re: It seems only logical that we should engage in discussion on the topic of one Kris Bryant

Lucchesi's cheap, right? Throw him in, too. Then sign Paxton for depth. BOOMROASTED

Benjamin Grimm Jul 16 2021 03:05 PM Re: It seems only logical that we should engage in discussion on the topic of one Kris Bryant

Probably time to revive this thread, as there's been recent buzz, both inside and outside this forum. JD Davis is active again. Think the Cubs would bite?

Edgy MD Jul 16 2021 03:30 PM Re: It seems only logical that we should engage in discussion on the topic of one Kris Bryant

Davis had only 50 plate appearances back in Apoo, but man, did he hit the piss out of the ball. When everybody else in the lineup was making wind, it was the Brandon and J.D. Show. It'll be interesting to see if he's got any of that left. If he does, it's certainly debatable how much of an upgrade Bryant is over Davis and Villar.

bmfc1 Jul 21 2021 09:32 AM Re: It seems only logical that we should engage in discussion on the topic of one Kris Bryant

He left last night's game mid-game which lead to much excitement on Twitter but it was due to "right hamstring fatigue". Maybe he heard that he was going to the Mets and felt that he needed to be injured to fit in.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 30 2021 09:16 AM Re: It seems only logical that we should engage in discussion on the topic of one Kris Bryant

Latest buzz seems to be that it's between the Mets and the Giants.