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sharpie Jun 27 2005 03:39 PM

I started thinking about players who had played out their entire careers playing only for the Mets. My first thought was that I would put together a starting team of Met Lifers. But excluding current players I had a hard time coming up with players other than Ed Kranepool. Using the rankings forum I started going down the list and couldn't find another til Bruce Boisclair. Then a bit further down I found Ron Hodges (though Craig Swan and John Stearns hardly played for anyone else). Then I got depressed and stopped. If anyone else wants to go ahead and make a starting team, please do so. I give you C- Hodges, 1b- Kranepool, RF - Boisclair. Then I give up.

seawolf17 Jun 27 2005 03:54 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 27 2005 04:09 PM

Players who played for New York Mets exclusively |New York Mets | |Years G AB BA HR SB| +----------------------+---------+----+----+----+----+---+ Edwin Almonte |2003-2003 12 1 .000 0 0| Bob Apodaca |1973-1977 184 58 .172 0 0| Kevin Baez |1990-1993 63 151 .179 0 0| Rick Baldwin |1975-1977 105 22 .273 0 0| Lute Barnes |1972-1973 27 74 .243 0 0| Blaine Beatty |1989-1991 7 2 .500 0 0| Heath Bell |2004-2004 17 1 .000 0 0| Jim Bethke |1965-1965 25 4 .000 0 0| Mike Bishop |1983-1983 3 8 .125 0 0| Bruce Boisclair |1974-1979 410 917 .263 10 18| Craig Brazell |2004-2004 24 34 .265 1 0| Leon Brown |1976-1976 64 70 .214 0 2| Mike Bruhert |1978-1978 27 40 .075 0 0| Eric Cammack |2000-2000 8 1 1.000 0 0| Juan Castillo |1994-1994 2 5 .200 0 0| Kelvin Chapman |1979-1985 172 421 .223 3 13| Mardie Cornejo |1978-1978 25 0 .000 0 0| Joe Crawford |1997-1997 18 11 .000 0 0| Ray Daviault |1962-1962 36 15 .067 0 0| Joe DePastino |2003-2003 2 2 .000 0 0| Victor Diaz |2004-2004 15 51 .294 3 0| Steve Dillon |1963-1964 3 0 .000 0 0| D.J. Dozier |1992-1992 25 47 .191 0 4| Mike Draper |1993-1993 29 3 .667 0 0| Jeff Duncan |2003-2004 69 154 .182 1 7| Frank Estrada |1971-1971 1 2 .500 0 0| Pedro Feliciano |2002-2004 49 3 .000 0 0| Shaun Fitzmaurice |1966-1966 9 13 .154 0 1| Don Florence |1995-1995 14 1 .000 0 0| Brent Gaff |1982-1984 58 17 .000 0 0| Danny Garcia |2003-2004 77 194 .227 5 3| Ron Gardenhire |1981-1985 285 710 .232 4 13| John Gibbons |1984-1986 18 50 .220 1 0| Mike Glavine |2003-2003 6 7 .143 0 0| Greg Harts |1973-1973 3 2 .500 0 0| Aaron Heilman |2003-2004 19 29 .034 0 0| Bill Hepler |1966-1966 37 14 .214 0 0| Rick Herrscher |1962-1962 35 50 .220 1 0| Joe Hietpas |2004-2004 1 0 .000 0 0| Eric Hillman |1992-1994 49 65 .123 0 0| Jerry Hinsley |1964-1967 11 1 .000 0 0| Ron Hodges |1973-1984 666 1426 .240 19 10| Scott Holman |1980-1983 43 32 .219 0 0| Mike Howard |1981-1983 48 66 .182 1 4| Pat Howell |1992-1992 31 75 .187 0 4| Jesse Hudson |1969-1969 1 0 .000 0 0| Jeff Innis |1987-1993 288 9 .000 0 0| Chris Jelic |1990-1990 4 11 .091 1 0| Rod Kanehl |1962-1964 340 796 .241 6 17| Takashi Kashiwada |1997-1997 32 1 .000 0 0| Jeff Keppinger |2004-2004 33 116 .284 3 2| Jay Kleven |1976-1976 2 5 .200 0 0| Satoru Komiyama |2002-2002 22 1 .000 0 0| Ed Kranepool |1962-1979 1853 5436 .261 118 15| Dave Liddell |1990-1990 1 1 1.000 0 0| Ron Locke |1964-1964 25 5 .000 0 0| Kazuo Matsui |2004-2004 114 460 .272 7 14| Terry McDaniel |1991-1991 23 29 .207 0 2| Joe Moock |1967-1967 13 40 .225 0 0| Bob Moorhead |1962-1965 47 22 .045 0 0| Al Moran |1963-1964 135 353 .195 1 3| Kevin Morgan |1997-1997 1 1 .000 0 0| Billy Murphy |1966-1966 84 135 .230 3 1| Dennis Musgraves |1965-1965 5 2 .000 0 0| Bob Myrick |1976-1978 82 16 .125 0 0| Danny Napoleon |1965-1966 80 130 .162 0 0| Tito Navarro |1993-1993 12 17 .059 0 0| Brian Ostrosser |1973-1973 4 5 .000 0 0| Brock Pemberton |1974-1975 13 24 .167 0 0| Grover Powell |1963-1963 20 10 .200 0 0| Rich Puig |1974-1974 4 10 .000 0 0| Bob Rauch |1972-1972 19 3 .000 0 0| Prentice Redman |2003-2003 15 24 .125 1 2| Jose Reyes |2003-2004 122 494 .283 7 32| Jason Roach |2003-2003 1 2 1.000 0 0| Grant Roberts |2000-2004 75 4 .250 0 0| Les Rohr |1967-1969 6 6 .000 0 0| Luis Rosado |1977-1980 11 28 .179 0 0| Don Rowe |1963-1963 26 13 .231 0 0| Dick Rusteck |1966-1966 8 5 .000 0 0| Doug Saunders |1993-1993 28 67 .209 0 0| Al Schmelz |1967-1967 2 0 .000 0 0| Dave Schneck |1972-1974 143 413 .199 8 4| Ted Schreiber |1963-1963 39 50 .160 0 0| Jae Weong Seo |2002-2004 59 83 .120 0 1| Esix Snead |2002-2004 18 13 .308 1 4| Randy Sterling |1974-1974 3 2 .000 0 0| Pat Strange |2002-2003 11 1 .000 0 0| Randy Tate |1975-1975 26 41 .000 0 0| George Theodore |1973-1974 105 192 .219 2 1| Jorge Toca |1999-2001 25 27 .259 0 0| Joe Vitko |1992-1992 3 0 .000 0 0| Bill Wakefield |1964-1964 62 24 .167 0 0| Vance Wilson |1999-2004 286 649 .254 17 2| David Wright |2004-2004 69 263 .293 14 6| Tyler Yates |2004-2004 21 11 .091 0 0| +----------------------+---------+----+----+----+----+---+ 96 players played for the Mets exclusively. |New York Mets | |Years G IP ERA W-L | +----------------------+---------+---+------+------+-------+ Edwin Almonte |2003-2003 12 11.3 11.15 0-0 | Bob Apodaca |1973-1977 184 361.3 2.84 16-25 | Rick Baldwin |1975-1977 105 182.7 3.60 4-7 | Blaine Beatty |1989-1991 7 15.7 2.29 0-0 | Heath Bell |2004-2004 17 24.3 3.33 0-2 | Jim Bethke |1965-1965 25 40.0 4.27 2-0 | Mike Bruhert |1978-1978 27 133.7 4.78 4-11 | Eric Cammack |2000-2000 8 10.0 6.30 0-0 | Juan Castillo |1994-1994 2 11.7 6.92 0-0 | Mardie Cornejo |1978-1978 25 36.7 2.45 4-2 | Joe Crawford |1997-1997 19 46.3 3.30 4-3 | Ray Daviault |1962-1962 36 81.0 6.22 1-5 | Steve Dillon |1963-1964 3 4.7 9.57 0-0 | Mike Draper |1993-1993 29 42.3 4.26 1-1 | Pedro Feliciano |2002-2004 51 72.7 4.21 1-1 | Don Florence |1995-1995 14 12.0 1.50 3-0 | Brent Gaff |1982-1984 58 126.3 4.06 4-5 | Aaron Heilman |2003-2004 19 93.3 6.37 3-10 | Bill Hepler |1966-1966 37 69.0 3.52 3-3 | Eric Hillman |1992-1994 49 232.0 4.85 4-14 | Jerry Hinsley |1964-1967 11 20.3 7.09 0-2 | Scott Holman |1980-1983 43 134.7 3.34 3-8 | Jesse Hudson |1969-1969 1 2.0 4.50 0-0 | Jeff Innis |1987-1993 288 360.0 3.05 10-20 | Takashi Kashiwada |1997-1997 35 31.3 4.31 3-1 | Satoru Komiyama |2002-2002 25 43.3 5.61 0-3 | Ron Locke |1964-1964 25 41.3 3.49 1-2 | Bob Moorhead |1962-1965 47 119.7 4.51 0-3 | Dennis Musgraves |1965-1965 5 16.0 0.56 0-0 | Bob Myrick |1976-1978 82 139.7 3.48 3-6 | Grover Powell |1963-1963 20 49.7 2.72 1-1 | Bob Rauch |1972-1972 19 27.0 5.00 0-1 | Jason Roach |2003-2003 2 9.0 12.00 0-2 | Grant Roberts |2000-2004 76 101.7 4.25 4-4 | Les Rohr |1967-1969 6 24.3 3.70 2-3 | Don Rowe |1963-1963 26 54.7 4.28 0-0 | Dick Rusteck |1966-1966 8 24.0 3.00 1-2 | Al Schmelz |1967-1967 2 3.0 3.00 0-0 | Jae Weong Seo |2002-2004 57 307.0 4.22 14-22 | Randy Sterling |1974-1974 3 9.3 4.84 1-1 | Pat Strange |2002-2003 11 17.0 6.35 0-0 | Randy Tate |1975-1975 26 137.7 4.44 5-13 | Joe Vitko |1992-1992 3 4.7 13.40 0-1 | Bill Wakefield |1964-1964 62 119.7 3.61 3-5 | Tyler Yates |2004-2004 21 46.7 6.36 2-4 | +----------------------+---------+---+------+------+-------+ 45 pitchers pitched for the Mets exclusively. NOTE: Thank you, [url=http://www.baseball-reference.com]baseball-reference.com[/url].

ScarletKnight41 Jun 27 2005 03:56 PM

Seawolf rocks!

Edgy DC Jun 27 2005 03:58 PM

Yup. An alternative criterion that would bring you a lot of other fine players -- Jones, Swan, Stearns -- is that he would be a guy who didn't play usefully for anyone else. Nothing above replacement level. Jim McAndrew was barely above rep level for the 1974 Padres over 41 innings. After Kranepool, the next highest profile absolute Met Lifer is... ...Jeff Innis! I think such a category is likely to have more pitchers than batters. Batters' careers tend to end with falling out of a team's plans and trying another team or two before they all give up on you. Pitchers' careers tend to end with protracted rehabilitation and packing it in.

seawolf17 Jun 27 2005 03:58 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 27 2005 04:04 PM

c Ron Hodges 1b Ed Kranepool 2b Kelvin Chapman 3b ss Ron Gardenhire of Bruce Boisclair of George Theodore of Hot Rod Kanehl sp Bob Apodaca sp Eric Hillman rp Jeff Innis rp Takashi Kashiwada Pretty weak. edit: added Kanehl.

sharpie Jun 27 2005 04:03 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 27 2005 04:04 PM

Thanks, Seawolf. Don't know how I managed to skip right over Jeff Innis. If Kaz Matsui goes back to Japan he stands a chance of hitting right in the middle of this lineup. (on edit): You need to take Jason Phillips offa that list.

Edgy DC Jun 27 2005 04:04 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 27 2005 04:07 PM

Kanehl beats Billy Murphy out for that third outfield slot. Not fair to include active players like Matsui.

seawolf17 Jun 27 2005 04:07 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 27 2005 04:10 PM

That list is only good through 2004: I'll go back and took off all the guys who play for different teams in '05. We still need a third baseman and, well, an entire pitching staff. edit: For now, you have to leave Reyes, Wright, Bell, et al, off this team. Retired guys only.

Edgy DC Jun 27 2005 04:09 PM

Plenty of pitchers who did alright in brief careers. At least faked it for twenty innings. You want more starters? I've got no hate for Randy Tate. Plus I don't see how we can not pick Joe Moock to play third.