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IGT 4/21/06, Banister v. Williams

Nymr83 Apr 21 2006 09:36 PM

Today's Lineups NO. NEW YORK SAN DIEGO 1. J. Reyes, SS D. Roberts, LF 2. P. Lo Duca, C J. Barfield, 2B 3. C. Delgado, 1B B. Giles, RF 4. D. Wright, 3B M. Piazza, C 5. C. Floyd, LF A. Gonzalez, 1B 6. X. Nady, RF K. Greene, SS 7. K. Matsui, 2B V. Castilla, 3B 8. E. Chavez, CF B. Johnson, CF 9. B. Bannister, P W. Williams, P Chavez in for Beltran, lets go Mets, I want another 10+ pages on the IGT tonight boys! The Mets won't break it open unless YOU post!

metirish Apr 21 2006 09:40 PM

Yeah get online now, it'll be hard to top last nights game but any win will do, it will be interesting to see how Bannister is tonight...

Nymr83 Apr 21 2006 09:41 PM

I was at his last start and he was pulling rabbits out of his hat for 5 innings, if he allows that many baserunners tonight he won't be so lucky again.

Johnny Dickshot Apr 21 2006 09:50 PM

I'll try and be around. LGM, YGB, bbb, yyy

metirish Apr 21 2006 09:57 PM

Like us Keith is very interested to see what Bannister has tonight....

TransMonk Apr 21 2006 09:58 PM

Should be a telling start for Bannister. No more cold weather excuses. If he throws strikes he should be fine. Wind blowing out to right...I'd like to see the offense keep their late inning surge from last night going.

Centerfield Apr 21 2006 10:05 PM

Any update on Beltran?

TransMonk Apr 21 2006 10:12 PM

Doctors are looking at the MRI as we post. Gary says they should have an uodate during the game.

metirish Apr 21 2006 10:16 PM

On the pre-game Chris Cotter said Beltran was day to day, meaning they no squat till the doctors phone Gary and Keith in the booth.

Nymr83 Apr 21 2006 10:18 PM

LoDuca lets another baserunner steal 2nd.

metirish Apr 21 2006 10:19 PM

Bannister looking a bit wild early doors....

Nymr83 Apr 21 2006 10:22 PM

bases loaded, Bannister should be in his element now.

Johnny Dickshot Apr 21 2006 10:25 PM

Unbelieveable.

Nymr83 Apr 21 2006 10:25 PM

Houdini back in action, he strikes Greene out to leave them loaded.

metirish Apr 21 2006 10:26 PM

OK Brian we get it, you like the pressure, that last pitch was a bueaty..

TransMonk Apr 21 2006 10:26 PM

Brian makes my stomach hurt.

Rockin' Doc Apr 21 2006 10:31 PM

Bannister sure makes things exciting. I could use a laugher after last night. Hopefully, the offense can take some of the angst out of watching Bannister by scoring early and often..

metirish Apr 21 2006 10:31 PM

Ok that out pitch on the replay shows Bannister got away with one right down the middle.

Rockin' Doc Apr 21 2006 10:35 PM

Come on Kaz. Keep the rally going.

Johnny Dickshot Apr 21 2006 10:35 PM

Update from the Bronx: H. Matsui punched out with bags juiced andthe MFYs lose again.

Nymr83 Apr 21 2006 10:37 PM

chavez DP to end the rally

Rockin' Doc Apr 21 2006 10:40 PM

Chavez grounds into an inning ending double play. I hope Beltran can get back fairly soon.

metirish Apr 21 2006 10:40 PM

]Update from the Bronx: H. Matsui punched out with bags juiced andthe MFYs lose again. Poor guys, Gay-Rod has been very hard on himself lately, taking the blame for the MFYs so so start, he's such a leader, time Torre sat Matsui for a game.

Nymr83 Apr 21 2006 10:41 PM

="metirish"] ]Update from the Bronx: H. Matsui punched out with bags juiced andthe MFYs lose again. Poor guys, Gay-Rod has been very hard on himself lately, taking the blame for the MFYs so so start, he's such a leader, time Torre sat Matsui for a game. MATSUI SUCKS!

Rockin' Doc Apr 21 2006 10:43 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 21 2006 10:44 PM

That was a promising start to an inning that you could see wasn't likely to lead to much. Once Matsui flied out, it was up to Chavez and Bannister to drive in the the runs. I figured the odds were against that happening. I just wish we could have at least cleared the pitchers spot, but the GIDP killed that.

Johnny Dickshot Apr 21 2006 10:43 PM

Before Matsui whiffed w/ the bases loaded, Gayrod whiffed with 2 on. It's a beautiful world we live in A sweet romantic place

Rockin' Doc Apr 21 2006 10:46 PM

If only Captain Intangibles had also struck out with runners in scoring position, we might have had an alternate definition of Triple Happiness.

metirish Apr 21 2006 10:50 PM

trivia from SNY .. what two players played in more than 300 games for both the Mets and Padres?.....Gary and Keith are stumped.

metirish Apr 21 2006 11:00 PM

Bannister gets out of another jam, where is Val, we need a nick name for Brian.

Johnny Dickshot Apr 21 2006 11:01 PM

]trivia from SNY .. what two players played in more than 300 games for both the Mets and Padres?.....Gary and Keith are stumped. So am I. McReynolds is one. Randy Jones? Nah... Must be a 60s Met who finished his career in SD... unless I'm really overlookingsomebody

metirish Apr 21 2006 11:02 PM

Fucking Delgado is the man... KABOOM..

mlbaseballtalk Apr 21 2006 11:03 PM

Chris Cannizzaro?

Johnny Dickshot Apr 21 2006 11:03 PM

Nymr83 Apr 21 2006 11:03 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 21 2006 11:05 PM

KABOOOOM, he's trying to catch Pujols.

ScarletKnight41 Apr 21 2006 11:03 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 21 2006 11:04 PM

Carlos goes [url=http://img211.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kaboomgif6th.gif]Ka-Boom![/url]

Willets Point Apr 21 2006 11:03 PM

Woo-hoo! I love tuning in just as Delgado crushes a homer to center.

mlbaseballtalk Apr 21 2006 11:04 PM

Need an Ultimate Padres Database here! HA! Clearly not Robbie Alomar or Garry Tempelton...

metirish Apr 21 2006 11:05 PM

After his homer Delgado retires to the bench and is now writing poetry in his book....Keith dropping names like crazy tonight..

Willets Point Apr 21 2006 11:05 PM

I like my sluggers literate.

mlbaseballtalk Apr 21 2006 11:06 PM

Dave Magadan is another good choice with Cannizzaro

TransMonk Apr 21 2006 11:07 PM

I'd say Magadan too. OE: Baseball reference agrees.

mlbaseballtalk Apr 21 2006 11:09 PM

Well thats all I can muster up, Mags and Cannizzaro, who in ten years has a good chance of being 73!

metirish Apr 21 2006 11:09 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 21 2006 11:10 PM

Steve takes the prize....have a beer man. on edit, Steve got the tough part of the question right, Magadan.

mlbaseballtalk Apr 21 2006 11:10 PM

Didn't I have enough in the Sunday IGT?

mlbaseballtalk Apr 21 2006 11:11 PM

mlbaseballtalk Apr 21 2006 11:12 PM

mlbaseballtalk Apr 21 2006 11:14 PM

Nymr83 Apr 21 2006 11:14 PM

yuck. some of us have TASTE:

mlbaseballtalk Apr 21 2006 11:15 PM

Now that looks like one of those old Reingold 5 minute heads!

Nymr83 Apr 21 2006 11:15 PM

bobbble gets castilla on base and loduca an E

mlbaseballtalk Apr 21 2006 11:15 PM

="Nymr83"]yuck. some of us have TASTE: HAH! Awww don't worry, just posting first images on Google I like!

Rockin' Doc Apr 21 2006 11:16 PM

Acording to Ultimate Mets Database, Chris Cannizzaro only played in 249 games for the Mets.

Nymr83 Apr 21 2006 11:17 PM

we need a best beer poll, or multiple polls with a grand champion.

Rockin' Doc Apr 21 2006 11:18 PM

A Beer Ladder Challenge.

Hillbilly Apr 21 2006 11:20 PM

D'oh, walked the pitcher.

mlbaseballtalk Apr 21 2006 11:21 PM

Drunkest I've ever been at a stadium. Shea Stadium, October 16th 1999. I start about 2 hours before the game, depressed that we were about to be swept by the F'N Braves with John Smoltz on the hill and I start drinking and walking around the stadium just in a dopey, drunken mood. Kind of like I was on Sunday (well without the alcohol) And going up to Brave fans saying congratulations. I sobered up during the game though. Lots of 8 dollar waters to chase lots of 6.50 beers will do that to you.

mlbaseballtalk Apr 21 2006 11:22 PM

Nymr83 wrote: we need a best beer poll, or multiple polls with a grand champion. Okay, lets PM Edgy when he gets back

Hillbilly Apr 21 2006 11:22 PM

Get's out of it again!

Johnny Dickshot Apr 21 2006 11:22 PM

Bannister is a magician, there's no other explanation. One of these innings he's going to give up 7 or 8 runs.

Rockin' Doc Apr 21 2006 11:23 PM

Lots of $8 waters? You must have been drunk.

metirish Apr 21 2006 11:23 PM

This Bannister is something else...when he needs to make that huge pitch he does...

Gwreck Apr 21 2006 11:23 PM

Alright, what'd I miss here...I see Bannister is up to his usual tricks. 7 LOB, 72 pitches through 4 innings.

mlbaseballtalk Apr 21 2006 11:27 PM

Rockin' Doc wrote: Lots of $8 waters? You must have been drunk. Okay, 5 bucks What are they up to now really?

Nymr83 Apr 21 2006 11:28 PM

i think water is $4.50, its just crazy.

mlbaseballtalk Apr 21 2006 11:28 PM

Got things to do, night

metirish Apr 21 2006 11:29 PM

Gwreck, Gary just gave some very interesting info on Brian..including this game and counting his last start Brian has pitched 9 innings and thrown 184 pitches yet only gave up one run while stranding 17 on base....that's just nuts..

Gwreck Apr 21 2006 11:31 PM

Brian Bannister...graduated Summa Cum Laude from the Al Leiter school of pitching, circa 2003-2004. That's an amazing stat though. I wonder what Elias would have to say about that.

Gwreck Apr 21 2006 11:33 PM

So much for stealing off Piazza....Lo Duca's been even worse.

Nymr83 Apr 21 2006 11:33 PM

Bannister just walked his 5th batter of this game, 2-on, 0-out for Mike Piazza.

metirish Apr 21 2006 11:34 PM

Yeah really, Keith mentioned how many walks were in that 9 innings, I forget what the count was though, but it was a lot.

Johnny Dickshot Apr 21 2006 11:35 PM

Bannister gets the DP. Would have preferred a triple play.

Nymr83 Apr 21 2006 11:35 PM

Piazza DP! Bannister loves those.

Hillbilly Apr 21 2006 11:35 PM

Thanks Mike!

A Boy Named Seo Apr 21 2006 11:35 PM

Keith just said Batch had Bannister "by the short hairs"!!! I love it. Keith should be an extra on Deadwood.

metirish Apr 21 2006 11:35 PM

Did Keith just say before the DP that the Padres have Bannister by the short hairs?...hahaha

Johnny Dickshot Apr 21 2006 11:36 PM

No more magic in the hat.

ScarletKnight41 Apr 21 2006 11:36 PM

Crap - tie game :(

Nymr83 Apr 21 2006 11:36 PM

the runners FINALLY catch up to bannister, its 1-1 on a single but he's still been very lucky.

Gwreck Apr 21 2006 11:40 PM

95 pitches, Oliver warming up. I think Bannister either gets out of the inning...or gets taken out.

metirish Apr 21 2006 11:43 PM

This guy is just freaky....another big out pitch.

Johnny Dickshot Apr 21 2006 11:43 PM

If I were a Padres fan I'd have killed myself four or five times tonight already. I know he barely deserves it, but sure be nice if our O could give the rookie a chance to win.

Rockin' Doc Apr 21 2006 11:44 PM

The strange thing is that last season , both at Binghamton and Norfolk, Bannister displayed great contol. His walks per nine innings were low and his K's/wlaks was good as well. Maybe he's afraid to challenge the ML hitters (as he K's Castillo to end the inning).

Nymr83 Apr 21 2006 11:47 PM

Harry Houdini promised his fans that he'd return from the other side one day, what he didn't say is that he'd be named Brian Bannister... it's amazing how this guy gets into and out of trouble.

Gwreck Apr 21 2006 11:50 PM

9 in a row retired by Williams. Offense, paging offense, please pick up the nearest red courtesy phone...

Hillbilly Apr 21 2006 11:51 PM

No win for the BB tonight.

Rockin' Doc Apr 21 2006 11:52 PM

In his 8 starts for the Tides last season, Bannister compiled a 4-1 record with a 3.18 ERA and 1.35 WHIP. He ammassed 48 K's against only 13 walks in his 48.1 innings of work. Whatever happened to that guy?

Johnny Dickshot Apr 21 2006 11:53 PM

Rockin' Doc wrote: The strange thing is that last season , both at Binghamton and Norfolk, Bannister displayed great contol. His walks per nine innings were low and his K's/wlaks was good as well. Maybe he's afraid to challenge the ML hitters (as he K's Castillo to end the inning). I think he's just mechanically a wreck right now and unbelieveably fortunate. Meantime, our offense is dead for the 4th straight game. Take away the big 8th last night, and we've scored 4 runs on 15 hits in the last 31 innings.

Gwreck Apr 21 2006 11:53 PM

Howie Rose was speculating that he can't throw his curveball for strikes, and if he gets control of it he'd be a lot better pitcher.

Nymr83 Apr 21 2006 11:55 PM

2 on for Oliver, can he pull a Bannister?

metirish Apr 21 2006 11:57 PM

WOW, Oliver pulled a Bannister..

Johnny Dickshot Apr 21 2006 11:58 PM

Not for nothin but Oliver's been better than I'd guess anyone expected so far.

Gwreck Apr 22 2006 12:01 AM

Howie Rose says (w/o an official medical update) that Beltran is available to pinch-hit tonight.

Johnny Dickshot Apr 22 2006 12:01 AM

1-out HBP: Counts for a Met rally.

metirish Apr 22 2006 12:02 AM

Gary reports the same about beltran..good news is that.

Johnny Dickshot Apr 22 2006 12:03 AM

Attaboy Matsui.

metirish Apr 22 2006 12:03 AM

Mets have runners on the corners after the Kaz hit...

Nymr83 Apr 22 2006 12:03 AM

1st and 3rd for Chavez.... anyone wanna squeeze?

Hillbilly Apr 22 2006 12:04 AM

I get the feeling we can steal a win tonight.....

Gwreck Apr 22 2006 12:04 AM

I'd really like to pinch-hit for Chavez here but I don't think Wille will have Woodward playing center...

Zvon Apr 22 2006 12:04 AM

UNITE AND ASSEMBLE PEOPLE!

metirish Apr 22 2006 12:04 AM

Shit...

Nymr83 Apr 22 2006 12:05 AM

FC at the plate, i'm glad chavez put it on the groud thats his job there it just wasnt in the right spot to score a run. Beltran will pinch hit with 2 on and 2 out.

Zvon Apr 22 2006 12:05 AM

Nymr83 wrote: 1st and 3rd for Chavez.... anyone wanna squeeze? i second this

Nymr83 Apr 22 2006 12:06 AM

Zvon wrote: ="Nymr83"]1st and 3rd for Chavez.... anyone wanna squeeze? i second this too late now, i'd have trusted him to make contact but oh well.

Johnny Dickshot Apr 22 2006 12:06 AM

Cheese and rice, Endy. Just get it out of the frigging infield. Neighborhood play at home plate?... But you can't argue on such a weak play.

Gwreck Apr 22 2006 12:06 AM

Nymr83 wrote: FC at the plate, i'm glad chavez put it on the groud thats his job there it just wasnt in the right spot to score a run. Not sure I agree with that. I think a ball to the outfield would've been top priority...

metirish Apr 22 2006 12:07 AM

What a play at second to save a run...

Zvon Apr 22 2006 12:07 AM

Nymr83 wrote: ="Zvon"] Nymr83 wrote: 1st and 3rd for Chavez.... anyone wanna squeeze? i second this too late now, i'd have trusted him to make contact but oh well. mmmmmmmm,..i wouldnt have, unless he laid one down. COME ON BELTRAN!

Nymr83 Apr 22 2006 12:07 AM

Gwreck wrote: ="Nymr83"]FC at the plate, i'm glad chavez put it on the groud thats his job there it just wasnt in the right spot to score a run. Not sure I agree with that. I think a ball to the outfield would've been top priority... Chavez isn't a guy who hits those with any regularity, you are way better off squeezing with him.

Hillbilly Apr 22 2006 12:08 AM

Nice defense keeps us off the board in the 7th.

Zvon Apr 22 2006 12:08 AM

...late again, huh?

Nymr83 Apr 22 2006 12:08 AM

Zvon wrote: ="Nymr83"] Zvon wrote: ="Nymr83"]1st and 3rd for Chavez.... anyone wanna squeeze? i second this too late now, i'd have trusted him to make contact but oh well. mmmmmmmm,..i wouldnt have, unless he laid one down. COME ON BELTRAN! i meant lay one down when i said trust hi to make contact

Johnny Dickshot Apr 22 2006 12:11 AM

My frontrunner for "Favorite Met of 2006" is in the game. I'm in love with this man.

metirish Apr 22 2006 12:11 AM

Durty Sanchez gets Piazza to SO...

Zvon Apr 22 2006 12:11 AM

Nymr83 wrote: i meant lay one down when i said trust hi to make contact .........................nevermind. :)

Gwreck Apr 22 2006 12:13 AM

metirish wrote: Durty Sanchez gets Piazza to SO... He's retired the first batter in each of his appearances so far this year.

Johnny Dickshot Apr 22 2006 12:15 AM

Perhaps I shouldn't have confessed our forbidden love.

Zvon Apr 22 2006 12:16 AM

I havent read all a this thread yet and only was able to gleen minimal info about the game till I got in, but looks like Bannister was once again getting in jams and pitching out of em. For the most part.......... Looks like Sanchez will carry on that tradition.

A Boy Named Seo Apr 22 2006 12:16 AM

Elsewhere, Soriano popped 3 homers and the Natties beat ATL. Be a nice night to steal one on the road.

Johnny Dickshot Apr 22 2006 12:17 AM

Jubiliation He loves me again

Hillbilly Apr 22 2006 12:17 AM

A Boy Named Seo wrote: Elsewhere, Soriano popped 3 homers and the Natties beat ATL. Be a nice night to steal one on the road. Nice! And the DP ends the innings. Yo! Let's get some runs!!

TransMonk Apr 22 2006 12:17 AM

I'm with Dickshot: Sanchez gives me wood too.

Zvon Apr 22 2006 12:18 AM

Johnny Dickshot wrote: Jubiliation He loves me again lmao

metirish Apr 22 2006 12:18 AM

]Elsewhere, Soriano popped 3 homers and the Natties beat ATL. Be a nice night to steal one on the road Oh please let this be a happy night, Braves lose, MFYs lose..can the Mets seal the deal........send me to Puerto Rico happy I beg you.

Gwreck Apr 22 2006 12:21 AM

I still have a bad feeling about this game. Maybe Delgado or Wright can hit one out, I don't think our offense has it tonight.

Nymr83 Apr 22 2006 12:22 AM

are you going to visit Casa Delgado?

Zvon Apr 22 2006 12:25 AM

Gwreck wrote: I still have a bad feeling about this game. Maybe Delgado or Wright can hit one out, I don't think our offense has it tonight. yo, negativity

A Boy Named Seo Apr 22 2006 12:25 AM

Call Mulder and Scully. Matsui had crazy eyes. He looked possessed by a demon.

Nymr83 Apr 22 2006 12:27 AM

The met offense will not erupt until we have posted 10 pages like last night, we actually broke the tie on page 9 last night, delgado opened it up a page later.

TransMonk Apr 22 2006 12:28 AM

Mark Bellhorn and his little league helmet get a pinch hit single in the 8th.

Gwreck Apr 22 2006 12:28 AM

Zvon wrote: ="Gwreck"]I still have a bad feeling about this game. Maybe Delgado or Wright can hit one out, I don't think our offense has it tonight. yo, negativity Reverse psychology...I hope.

Nymr83 Apr 22 2006 12:28 AM

Sanchez gets a grounder but it's only the 2nd out because we didnt turn 2 :( will Roberts steal on LoDuca?

Gwreck Apr 22 2006 12:29 AM

Nymr83 wrote: will Roberts steal on LoDuca? I say this is finally the runner LoDuca nails.

Johnny Dickshot Apr 22 2006 12:32 AM

Nice play Matsui.

Nymr83 Apr 22 2006 12:32 AM

time to score a run guys!

Gwreck Apr 22 2006 12:33 AM

I Duaner.

TheOldMole Apr 22 2006 12:33 AM

How close to the bag would you say Reyes was on that play?

Nymr83 Apr 22 2006 12:33 AM

NTTAWWT

Hillbilly Apr 22 2006 12:33 AM

OK a couple of runs and a save for Billy...

Johnny Dickshot Apr 22 2006 12:33 AM

Alright let's get this bitch to 10 pages if that's what it takes. ---->>>>>IN-GAME BEVERAGE CHECK<<<<<---- I'm having a glass of Sutter Home white merlot (what's wrong with me?)

Gwreck Apr 22 2006 12:34 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 22 2006 12:35 AM

I think Hoffman's coming in for the Padres. OE: Entering to "I Love Rock 'N Roll" rather than "Hell's Bells" (not a save situation)

Nymr83 Apr 22 2006 12:34 AM

TheOldMole wrote: How close to the bag would you say Reyes was on that play? the area out is as well established as the "if your shot got blocked in the paint we'll assume you were fouled"

A Boy Named Seo Apr 22 2006 12:35 AM

With all that man-love for Duaner you're spouting, I'd say a glass of white Sutter Home is just about right. Sam Adams Light for me. Still crisp and hoppy, but, you know, lighter. I like. LGM.

Nymr83 Apr 22 2006 12:35 AM

Johnny Dickshot wrote: Alright let's get this bitch to 10 pages if that's what it takes. ---->>>>>IN-GAME BEVERAGE CHECK<<<<<---- I'm having a glass of Sutter Home white merlot (what's wrong with me?) A&W Cream Soda, because haven't purchased any booze since passover ended.

Johnny Dickshot Apr 22 2006 12:37 AM

There's a break we could use. Let's have Nady set it up for Matsui.

Zvon Apr 22 2006 12:37 AM

Gwreck wrote: Reverse psychology...I hope. Works for me.

Hillbilly Apr 22 2006 12:38 AM

Cliff with the line drive base hit (in the box score anyway!)

Gwreck Apr 22 2006 12:38 AM

Maybe Cornelius could steal one. Pretty sure he said "oh, yeah" yesterday when asked if the Mets would run on Piazza...

Nymr83 Apr 22 2006 12:38 AM

Floyd is on for Matsui...

Zvon Apr 22 2006 12:40 AM

Nymr83 wrote: ="Johnny Dickshot"]Alright let's get this bitch to 10 pages if that's what it takes. ---->>>>>IN-GAME BEVERAGE CHECK<<<<<---- I'm having a glass of Sutter Home white merlot (what's wrong with me?) A&W Cream Soda, because haven't purchased any booze since passover ended. Bud Ice--just continuing my binge i started earlier. Uh, UNITE AND ASSEMBLE (with no negitivity) (reverse pshychology is acceptable)

Zvon Apr 22 2006 12:40 AM

Nymr83 Apr 22 2006 12:40 AM

1-0 pickoff attempt 1-1 taking 2-1 2-2 swinging, floyd steals 2nd... strikeout swinging. damn. nice job by floyd, he said he'd be running on Piazza before the series started.

Johnny Dickshot Apr 22 2006 12:41 AM

Nuts. Giles, Piazza and Gonzalez in the home 9th.

Gwreck Apr 22 2006 12:42 AM

This'll be Heilman's third consecutive day pitching. Guess he's good for 1, maybe 2 innings.

Nymr83 Apr 22 2006 12:43 AM

Heilman is in to face the heart of the order.

TheOldMole Apr 22 2006 12:44 AM

Being Braden Looper will do that to a fellow.

Nymr83 Apr 22 2006 12:44 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 22 2006 12:45 AM

Gwreck wrote: This'll be Heilman's third consecutive day pitching. Guess he's good for 1, maybe 2 innings. he'll only pitch 1, he's due to bat 2nd and wasnt double-switched (you could have brouht woodward into the 9 spot and heilman in matsui's spot who made the last out)

Nymr83 Apr 22 2006 12:44 AM

2 quick outs for Heilman, too bad he cant pitch another inning...

Gwreck Apr 22 2006 12:46 AM

I could see the logic in keeping Hernandez in for defense, but I'm surprised by the lack of double-switching. Maybe Endy can get on and Heilman bunts.

Johnny Dickshot Apr 22 2006 12:46 AM

Free baseball for all!

Nymr83 Apr 22 2006 12:47 AM

Strrrrrrrrrike threee!! With Oliver and Sanchez already used I would have to keep heilman in to bat and pitch a 2nd inning, i can only pray Chavez is on so that Heilman can try and bunt him over.

Gwreck Apr 22 2006 12:47 AM

Mets 0-1 so far this year with bonus baseball.

Nymr83 Apr 22 2006 12:47 AM

Gwreck wrote: I could see the logic in keeping Hernandez in for defense, but I'm surprised by the lack of double-switching. Maybe Endy can get on and Heilman bunts. Hernandez?

Johnny Dickshot Apr 22 2006 12:47 AM

The way these two teams are hitting, we could be in for a long night.

Zvon Apr 22 2006 12:48 AM

Gwreck wrote: I could see the logic in keeping Hernandez in for defense, but I'm surprised by the lack of double-switching. ditto. If this goes a while we could have gotten 2 out of heilman.

Nymr83 Apr 22 2006 12:48 AM

Gwreck wrote: Mets 0-1 so far this year with bonus baseball. why does "bonus baseball" seem alot like "spring forward" the next morning when the mets play 10 o'clock games...

Nymr83 Apr 22 2006 12:50 AM

Heilman is gone, the Mets may come to regret this.

Johnny Dickshot Apr 22 2006 12:51 AM

Jeezis. Could these guys put up a fight?

Nymr83 Apr 22 2006 12:52 AM

1-2-3. Wagner coming in?

Johnny Dickshot Apr 22 2006 12:52 AM

Johnny Dickshot wrote: Jeezis. Could these guys put up a fight? A: No, they can't.

Hillbilly Apr 22 2006 12:53 AM

weak

Gwreck Apr 22 2006 12:53 AM

Nymr83 wrote: Heilman is gone, the Mets may come to regret this. I think we get the Sandman for 2 innings next.

Hillbilly Apr 22 2006 12:53 AM

As long as we don't need anybody after that

Nymr83 Apr 22 2006 12:53 AM

Gwreck wrote: ="Nymr83"]Heilman is gone, the Mets may come to regret this. I think we get the Sandman for 2 innings next. which gives us only 1 more inning to win it before we need to pitch guys we dont want to pitch

Hillbilly Apr 22 2006 12:56 AM

I'm running out of gas. Let's win this game!

Zvon Apr 22 2006 12:57 AM

Johnny Dickshot Apr 22 2006 12:58 AM

Not for nothin, but if we can only score 1 run off the Padres in 11 innings with Hoffman already out of the game we deserve whatever fate the bullpen rotation deals us.

Johnny Dickshot Apr 22 2006 12:59 AM

Nice strong inning for Billy. Perhaps his best-looking inning of the year.

Nymr83 Apr 22 2006 01:00 AM

We deserve a W for bannister's magic act. We deserve a W because SD fans are eating a late dinner while we are staying up past our bedtimes to stick this one out. Wagner sets them down in order, WE NEED A RUN!

Zvon Apr 22 2006 01:01 AM

Johnny Dickshot wrote: Not for nothin, but if we can only score 1 run off the Padres in 11 innings with Hoffman already out of the game we deserve whatever fate the bullpen rotation deals us. agreed. And the only one I would have been ok with beatin me was Piazza. And he's ridin wood. So we should win this game.

Hillbilly Apr 22 2006 01:02 AM

turned the scoreboard over

Zvon Apr 22 2006 01:02 AM

="Nymr83"] Wagner sets them down in order, WE NEED A RUN!

Johnny Dickshot Apr 22 2006 01:02 AM

Well, our chance is now. 2-3-4, Wagner to get the bottom 11th, and we're almost at page 10.

Nymr83 Apr 22 2006 01:02 AM

LoDuca singles to center, lets go mets!

Johnny Dickshot Apr 22 2006 01:02 AM

Oh shit, we are on page 10.

Hillbilly Apr 22 2006 01:02 AM

lgm!

metirish Apr 22 2006 01:03 AM

As a team we are doing better than the Mets, page ten.

Gwreck Apr 22 2006 01:03 AM

Attaboy, LoDuca.

TransMonk Apr 22 2006 01:03 AM

LoDuca on, no outs...Lets GO Mets!

Nymr83 Apr 22 2006 01:04 AM

Delgado flies out.

Hillbilly Apr 22 2006 01:04 AM

We got some lumber coming up!

Nymr83 Apr 22 2006 01:06 AM

Wright flies out, thats 2 down.

Nymr83 Apr 22 2006 01:07 AM

Can Cliff Floyd get his first big hit of the year?

Hillbilly Apr 22 2006 01:07 AM

Nymr83 wrote: Wright flies out, thats 2 down. That hurts.

Johnny Dickshot Apr 22 2006 01:07 AM

Let's go Cliff.

A Boy Named Seo Apr 22 2006 01:08 AM

Wright's BA has dropped about 150 points the last week or so. Beltran's hammy, sure. Reyes isn't right either. But the offense seemed to tank when David did.

Nymr83 Apr 22 2006 01:08 AM

HillBilly is now "Leroy Stanton", which i think would be a great name for a hollywood hillbilly. Floyd is out and it's likely the Mets won't win it with Wagner on the mound.

Hillbilly Apr 22 2006 01:09 AM

I'm done. Sorry I have to wuss out. LGM!

Zvon Apr 22 2006 01:11 AM

A Boy Named Seo wrote: Wright's BA has dropped about 150 points the last week or so. Beltran's hammy, sure. Reyes isn't right either. But the offense seemed to tank when David did. yer like Debby Downer. But i also would like to see Reyes getting on, one way or another. Reyes goes,so go the Mets.

Nymr83 Apr 22 2006 01:12 AM

Mirabelli K's, Wagner's 3rd in a row.

Nymr83 Apr 22 2006 01:12 AM

Wagner gets Roberts on 1 pitch to bounce to short.

Nymr83 Apr 22 2006 01:14 AM

Wagner was 3-0 on Barfield, he gets it back to 3-2, and walks him. he'll be running on LoDuca any second now...

Zvon Apr 22 2006 01:15 AM

Nymr83 wrote: Wagner was 3-0 on Barfield, he gets it back to 3-2, and walks him. he'll be running on LoDuca any second now... *Z looks at his watch.

Nymr83 Apr 22 2006 01:16 AM

Wagner gets Giles, i don't suppose we get a 3rd inning out of him?

metirish Apr 22 2006 01:16 AM

Great job by Wagner......

Johnny Dickshot Apr 22 2006 01:16 AM

Page 11. Inning 12.

Nymr83 Apr 22 2006 01:18 AM

MetIrish is now George Foster, which is "Australian for beer" (and the worst beer in Australia according to my friend who is from there.) I offer one to the Padre pitcher in the hope he pukes on the mound.

Zvon Apr 22 2006 01:18 AM

Nymr83 wrote: Wagner gets Giles, i don't suppose we get a 3rd inning out of him? If we dont reach here and have to, Im for it. Wags just started stretchin his arm for lack of spring training tosses.

Johnny Dickshot Apr 22 2006 01:18 AM

We haven't scored since Page 2.

Zvon Apr 22 2006 01:19 AM

Johnny Dickshot wrote: We haven't scored since Page 2. whats with you and pages?

Nymr83 Apr 22 2006 01:20 AM

Sending down Diaz came at a bad time but it might be a very good thing that we have another pitcher on the roster right now.

Nymr83 Apr 22 2006 01:21 AM

Zvon wrote: ="Johnny Dickshot"]We haven't scored since Page 2. whats with you and pages? i started that by saying we needed as many pages as last night to score, sorry zvon.

metirish Apr 22 2006 01:21 AM

Foster beer is pure piss...believe your friend on that, on the radio I have "That's Entertainment" from The Jam..a classic..

Nymr83 Apr 22 2006 01:23 AM

Padres have stranded 14 so far according to the radio, Matsui lines out to center.

Zvon Apr 22 2006 01:23 AM

Nymr83 wrote: ="Zvon"] ="Johnny Dickshot"]We haven't scored since Page 2. whats with you and pages? i started that by saying we needed as many pages as last night to score, sorry zvon. no need to apologize when I post what meant as a joke.

Nymr83 Apr 22 2006 01:23 AM

Chavez is the last hope and he singles down the line... AND ITS JULIO FRANCO TIME!!

Johnny Dickshot Apr 22 2006 01:24 AM

I don;t wanna count on a HR here, let Chavez swipe one.

Nymr83 Apr 22 2006 01:26 AM

I'm Google-happy tonight as "Father Time" flies out to right :/

Nymr83 Apr 22 2006 01:27 AM

Johnny Dickshot wrote: I don;t wanna count on a HR here, let Chavez swipe one. you can't. if he gets caught you lose franco and then Feliciano would lead off the next inning unless you pulled him after 1 (which you might not want to do if he gets a quick inning.)

Zvon Apr 22 2006 01:29 AM

Nymr83 wrote: ="Johnny Dickshot"]I don;t wanna count on a HR here, let Chavez swipe one. you can't. if he gets caught you lose franco and then bradford would lead off the next inning unless you pulled him after 1 (which you might not want to do if he gets a quick inning.) I vote Nymr83 next Met manager. Or announcer.

Nymr83 Apr 22 2006 01:30 AM

damn. you quoted me before i stealth-edited bradford to feliciano.

Nymr83 Apr 22 2006 01:31 AM

Fuck the padres got a man on.

Nymr83 Apr 22 2006 01:33 AM

WHAT???? Willie pulls feliciano for bradford, virtually assuring that the mets will run out of pitchers if they dont win or lose it next inning.

Gwreck Apr 22 2006 01:33 AM

Interesting switch to Bradford, what with the pitching shortage and all.

metirish Apr 22 2006 01:35 AM

Only pitcher left is Julio after Bradford......

Johnny Dickshot Apr 22 2006 01:36 AM

If Khalil Greene played on the Mets I'd boo him.

Gwreck Apr 22 2006 01:37 AM

Or we go to a starter...ie. Victor...

Johnny Dickshot Apr 22 2006 01:37 AM

Bradford submarines the throw to 1st. Pretty funny.

Zvon Apr 22 2006 01:40 AM

metirish wrote: Only pitcher left is Julio after Bradford...... and you know Willie didnt want to go to him earlier-what with him bein on a tad of an upswing after that awful start. but now would be a could time for him to get in and do it and earn the cheers of the fans when he returns to Shea. Reyes in every inning. i like. Tho 0 for 6 kinda hurts

Gwreck Apr 22 2006 01:43 AM

C'mon Carlos, let's get one across here.

Johnny Dickshot Apr 22 2006 01:44 AM

Twelve innings, we score 1 run, and you guys are worried about the bullpen.

Gwreck Apr 22 2006 01:45 AM

Why not? The bullpen is the only thing keeping us in this game.... :)

metirish Apr 22 2006 01:45 AM

We are fucked...couldn't score in a brothel with $100 hanging out the arse pocket.

Zvon Apr 22 2006 01:46 AM

="Johnny Dickshot"]Twelve innings, we score 1 run, and you guys are worried about the bullpen. what? me worry?

Nymr83 Apr 22 2006 01:46 AM

I'm not worried about the bullpen in the long-run, i have a reasonable amount of trust in 3 guys (Wagner, Sanchez, and Heilman) and I'm not adverse to 3 more (Oliver, Bradford, and Feliciano.) thats ALOT better than i feel about the pen most years. what i am worried about is the bullpen TONIGHT, in that we burned it out pretty quickly and may get stuck using the one guy out of 7 that i don't trust at all.

Gwreck Apr 22 2006 01:50 AM

Is it still a golden sombrero if it takes 13 innings to happen?

Nymr83 Apr 22 2006 01:50 AM

in the preseason predictions thread i had 4:23 for the longest game of the year, that would mean a 2:28 AM ending tonight, right?

Nymr83 Apr 22 2006 01:50 AM

Gwreck wrote: Is it still a golden sombrero if it takes 13 innings to happen? i always thought it needed to be all your ABs for the day but i guess not. Bradford has 3 k's.

Zvon Apr 22 2006 01:51 AM

Nymr83 wrote: in the preseason predictions thread i had 4:23 for the longest game of the year, that would mean a 2:28 AM ending tonight, right? ahhh, sure. *Z swigs down another bud ice.

Gwreck Apr 22 2006 01:52 AM

Hmm, not sure. WTF is the etymology of "golden sombrero" anyway?

Johnny Dickshot Apr 22 2006 01:52 AM

I think the pitchers have pretty much done all they can to deserve a win tonight and though you can dicker with WWSB's management of it, the fact is the bullpen has thrown 8 scoreless innings on the road as I type, and there's games to win tomorrow nite and Sunday too. At some point you have to have faith that the O gives you a lead to protect, or you take your chances with the Julios and Zambranos. You can't have both. Jeezus, Bradford whiffed the side.

Nymr83 Apr 22 2006 01:53 AM

Bradford k's the side!!!! lets get 5 runs so we can safely insert Julio. If we only get 1 run i say we go with PEDRO!

The Big O Apr 22 2006 01:53 AM

Johnny Dickshot wrote: I think the pitchers have pretty much done all they can to deserve a win tonight and though you can dicker with WWSB's management of it, the fact is the bullpen has thrown 8 scoreless innings on the road as I type, and there's games to win tomorrow nite and Sunday too. At some point you have to have faith that the O gives you a lead to protect, or you take your chances with the Julios and Zambranos. You can't have both. Jeezus, Bradford whiffed the side. Oh Chad Bradford, let your rubber arm wing us to victory! I really hope Julio is giving him batting tips between innings.

Centerfield Apr 22 2006 01:54 AM

I think we should score now.

Nymr83 Apr 22 2006 01:57 AM

Wright strikes out. Floyd grounds to first base. it's up to Nady...

metirish Apr 22 2006 01:57 AM

Wright looks like shit lately...

A Boy Named Seo Apr 22 2006 01:57 AM

Is the strike zone getting larger as the game goes on or what?

Nymr83 Apr 22 2006 01:58 AM

A Boy Named Seo wrote: Is the strike zone getting larger as the game goes on or what? Maybe the umpires are tired? remember the home plate umpire calling a brave safe at the plate and allegedly telling john franco that he's got a flight to catch?

Centerfield Apr 22 2006 01:59 AM

The whole lineup looks like shit. We don't even have a chance out there.

Nymr83 Apr 22 2006 01:59 AM

Centerfield wrote: The whole lineup looks like shit. We don't even have a chance out there. The Padre lineup isn't looking very good either.

A Boy Named Seo Apr 22 2006 02:00 AM

He's calling the game like it's raining and he's trying to get 5 in.

Nymr83 Apr 22 2006 02:00 AM

Bradford will pitch the 14th! Pedro better go 9 tommorow...

metirish Apr 22 2006 02:01 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 22 2006 02:03 AM

Those might be famous last words about the Padres.

Johnny Dickshot Apr 22 2006 02:01 AM

This isn't gonna end well.

Elster88 Apr 22 2006 02:02 AM

Looked out to me.

Nymr83 Apr 22 2006 02:02 AM

FUCK SHIT DAMN MOTHERFUCKER

Gwreck Apr 22 2006 02:02 AM

Shit. C'mon Bradford...

metirish Apr 22 2006 02:02 AM

Padres win....

Johnny Dickshot Apr 22 2006 02:02 AM

Like I said.

Zvon Apr 22 2006 02:03 AM

Nymr83 wrote: ="Centerfield"]The whole lineup looks like shit. We don't even have a chance out there. The Padre lineup isn't looking very good either. But theyv'e only used 4 pitchers. but its not checkmate yet. Bradford will keep on keepin on. (the Blum single-----okay---im worried now myself)

Centerfield Apr 22 2006 02:03 AM

Padres win the World Series. Or so it appears.

Nymr83 Apr 22 2006 02:06 AM

its a big game for them i guess, you don't want to lose an extra inning game at home having also lost last night with 2 more to go. Pedro needs to throw 110 pitches tommorow regardless of how well or poorly he is pitching, if he's not doing well too bad, take one for the team.

Johnny Dickshot Apr 22 2006 02:06 AM

Anyone have a puppy? I'd like to stop by and kick it.

Zvon Apr 22 2006 02:09 AM

sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit. Well, your not gonna win em all. Coulda been managed with a Julio make it or break in inning and 2 or more outta Heilman. Cripes-the guy was ready to be a starter. You dont have to worry about his innings pitched. So, what are we? 11-5? not bad

Nymr83 Apr 22 2006 02:11 AM

Johnny Dickshot wrote: Anyone have a puppy? I'd like to stop by and kick it. be careful this could end up as someones sig quote.

Zvon Apr 22 2006 02:13 AM

Nymr83 wrote: ="Johnny Dickshot"]Anyone have a puppy? I'd like to stop by and kick it. be careful this could end up as someones sig quote. lol. .................I mean oh snap!

Zvon Apr 22 2006 02:16 AM

good game--aside from the part where we lost.

abogdan Apr 22 2006 07:34 AM

How do you use a pitcher for only two batters in the 12th? If you're going to use Bradford, you have to bring him in to start that inning. Why waste a lefty on Eric Young and Adrian Gonzalez when the only hitter in that lineup you should be scared of - Brian Giles - is a lefty?

TransMonk Apr 22 2006 08:06 AM

I fell asleep at the comp during the 12th. I woke up to a black screen and my computer had locked up. 14 inning west coast games are crappy, especially when we lose. Hopefully we can turn it around on Saturday.

Johnny Dickshot Apr 22 2006 11:26 AM

abogdan wrote: How do you use a pitcher for only two batters in the 12th? If you're going to use Bradford, you have to bring him in to start that inning. Why waste a lefty on Eric Young and Adrian Gonzalez when the only hitter in that lineup you should be scared of - Brian Giles - is a lefty? I can't believe there's more harping on bullpen usage when it gave you 8 scoreless innings on the road. When should Willie plan for the Mets to have given them a lead? The 36th inning?

Nymr83 Apr 22 2006 11:39 AM

Johnny Dickshot wrote: ="abogdan"]How do you use a pitcher for only two batters in the 12th? If you're going to use Bradford, you have to bring him in to start that inning. Why waste a lefty on Eric Young and Adrian Gonzalez when the only hitter in that lineup you should be scared of - Brian Giles - is a lefty? I can't believe there's more harping on bullpen usage when it gave you 8 scoreless innings on the road. When should Willie plan for the Mets to have given them a lead? The 36th inning? the point is that once you're past the 8th inning and tied you need to not use any pitchers for less than a full inning or two. the bullpen did perform well but Willie didn't.

Johnny Dickshot Apr 22 2006 11:52 AM

I completely disagree. You play for the win on the road, and when you're in xtras, that means every moment of the game. Basically you're arguing that it would have been OK for Willie lose it in the 12th for the a chance you might win it in the 15th.

Bret Sabermetric Apr 22 2006 12:09 PM

But in the larger sense shouldn't your overwhelming principle be "I have a finite number of innings I can get out of my pen, and a theoretically infinite number of innings I can work them in, so using a man for far fewer innings than he's capable of pitching tonight gets me into deep doo-doo eventually"? Maybe not this game, but if you burn your pen like it's firewood on a romantic evening, eventually you're going to have a 22-inning job where you're wrecking someone's arm or asking an outfielder to pitch to Albert Pujols.

Johnny Dickshot Apr 22 2006 12:16 PM

]Maybe not this game, but if you burn your pen like it's firewood on a romantic evening, eventually you're going to have a 22-inning job where you're wrecking someone's arm or asking an outfielder to pitch to Albert Pujols. Well, we are talking about this game, and nymr, zvon and abogdan are basically sore because Willie didn't try and lose it sooner than he did. Why not use Julio in the 9th if that's the attitude? In a general sense I think WWSB has been OK with his his use this year (amazing how better pitchers make you look like a better manager).

Bret Sabermetric Apr 22 2006 12:28 PM

I'd say better pitching, not necessarily better pitchers. The jury's still out on the Mets maintaining a 3.08 ERA over the season.

abogdan Apr 22 2006 01:21 PM

]Well, we are talking about this game, and nymr, zvon and abogdan are basically sore because Willie didn't try and lose it sooner than he did. I have no idea what you're talking about. Randolph's bullpen usage last night decreased the Mets' chances of winning the game. He was left with the options of leaving in a tired Chad Bradford to pitch to lefty Brian Giles with the winning run on base, or bringing in Jorge Julio, who shouldn't be brought into a tie game until it gets to the 20th inning. Randolph should have used his best available reliever, Bradford, to start the 12th. Three of the next four hitters were right handed. Had he done that, Randolph would have had the added option of going to Feliciano against Giles the next inning.

Johnny Dickshot Apr 22 2006 04:52 PM

And when Gonzalez ends the game with a home run in the 12th you expect Willie to say, "Well, I know Bradford's splits vs. lefties are terrible, but I put him in there because I was expecting us not to score for two more innings even though the top of the order was due up so I could use my specialist on Brian Giles in the 14th." You would have a better case killing him for that. What "decreased the Mets chances of winning," was the fact the fucking offense scored 1 run in 14 innings.

Iubitul Apr 22 2006 05:11 PM

Nymr83 wrote: remember the home plate umpire calling a brave safe at the plate and allegedly telling john franco that he's got a flight to catch? Angel Hernandez. IIRC, it was a Sunday afternoon game before the All-Star break...