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BLC - Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds vs. Velvet Underground

metirish Apr 17 2006 04:25 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 18 2006 12:23 AM

1. The Mercy Seat 2. The Weeping Song 3. Red Right Hand 4. Do You Love Me 5. For Her To Eternity 6. Were The Wild Roses Grow 7. Papa Won't Leave You Henry 8. (Are You) The One That I've Been Waiting For? 9. Your Funeral... My Trial 10. As I Sat Sadly By Her Side http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000062WD/sr=8-2/qid=1145334138/ref=pd_bbs_2/102-1715857-1819309?%5Fencoding=UTF8 you can find more songs if you scroll up. if you see some Nick Cave stuff cheap I would tell you go get "The Best of Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds"....or "The Boatman's Call", " Murder Ballads" or " From Her to Eternity"...a great one I got recently is this..." B-Sides & Rarities" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B-Sides_%26_Rarities

metirish Apr 17 2006 04:27 PM

S**t, I'm missing the D.....

sharpie Apr 17 2006 04:30 PM

No "Deanna" or "Henry Lee?" Good list, though. Velvets are getting challenged a lot. I'll put up mine tomorrow.

metirish Apr 17 2006 04:33 PM

I agonized over those songs Sharpie, they have so much great stuff, and I wanted to try and get the whole career in there, as best I could anyway. I thought Rotblatt had the Velvets?

Willets Point Apr 17 2006 04:48 PM

The Velvets are becoming the new Heartbreakers as "gateway" bands to the BLC.

Edgy DC Apr 17 2006 04:52 PM

A lot of heroin riding on this one.

sharpie Apr 17 2006 04:53 PM

When I said "I'll put up mine tomorrow" I was referring (foolishly in this thread) to the fact that I have the next band. Yes, Rotblatt has the Velvets. I really liked the double album of last year Abbattoir Blues/Lyre of Orpheus.

Willets Point Apr 17 2006 04:56 PM

sharpie wrote: When I said "I'll put up mine tomorrow" I was referring (foolishly in this thread) to the fact that I have the next band. Yes, On first read through I though Sharpie was announcing that the next band he was putting up is Yes. Damn line breaks!

sharpie Apr 17 2006 05:01 PM

Not Yes this time but I might next time. "Roundabout" did well for me as a parody song.

Rotblatt Apr 17 2006 05:17 PM

What, our thrashing of the Guess Who didn't scare you riff-raff off? 1. Sweet Jane (full-lenth version) [url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000033WC/qid=1141075445/sr=1-10/ref=sr_1_10/104-6133829-9407933?s=music&v=glance&n=5174]^^[/url] 2. Pale Blue Eyes [url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000002G7G/qid=1143420977/sr=2-2/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_2/103-1820422-0859052?s=music&v=glance&n=5174]^^[/url] 3. Rock and Roll [url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000002LVB/qid=1143420977/sr=2-3/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_3/103-1820422-0859052?s=music&v=glance&n=5174]^^[/url] 4. What Goes On (Closet Mix) [url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000002G7G/ref=m_art_li_2/103-1820422-0859052?s=music&v=glance&n=5174]^^[/url] 5. Beginning to See the Light [url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000002G7G/qid=1143420977/sr=2-2/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_2/103-1820422-0859052?s=music&v=glance&n=5174]^^[/url] 6. Femme Fatale [url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000002G7C/qid=1143420977/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/103-1820422-0859052?s=music&v=glance&n=5174]^^[/url] 7. White Light/White Heat [url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000001FR9/qid=1141074154/sr=1-9/ref=sr_1_9/104-6133829-9407933?s=music&v=glance&n=5174]^^[/url] 8. Heroin[url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000002G7C/qid=1143420977/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/103-1820422-0859052?s=music&v=glance&n=5174]^^[/url] 9. I'm Waiting for the Man [url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000002G7C/qid=1143420977/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/103-1820422-0859052?s=music&v=glance&n=5174]^^[/url] 10. I'll Be Your Mirror [url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000001FR9/qid=1144433168/sr=1-8/ref=sr_1_8/104-5903095-0096703?s=music&v=glance&n=5174]^^[/url]

Willets Point Apr 17 2006 06:05 PM

Interesting info from Wikipedia (yes I know it's not reputed for accuracy): ] Line-up chronology * May 1984–September 1984: Nick Cave, Mick Harvey, Blixa Bargeld, Barry Adamson, and Hugo Race. * October 1984–March 1985: Nick Cave, Mick Harvey, Blixa Bargeld, and Barry Adamson. * June 1985–July 1986: Nick Cave, Mick Harvey, Blixa Bargeld, Barry Adamson, and Thomas Wydler. * July 1986–September 1986: Nick Cave, Mick Harvey, Blixa Bargeld, and Thomas Wydler. * September 1986–September 1989: Nick Cave, Mick Harvey, Blixa Bargeld, Kid Congo Powers, Roland Wolf, and Thomas Wydler. * October 1989–May 1990: Nick Cave, Mick Harvey, Blixa Bargeld, Kid Congo Powers, and Thomas Wydler. * May 1992–April 1994: Nick Cave, Mick Harvey, Blixa Bargeld, Conway Savage, Martyn P. Casey, Thomas Wydler. * February 1996–September 2001: Nick Cave, Mick Harvey, Blixa Bargeld, Conway Savage, Warren Ellis, Martyn P. Casey, Thomas Wydler, Jim Sclavunos. * February 2003–March 2003: Nick Cave, Mick Harvey, Blixa Bargeld, Warren Ellis, Martyn P. Casey, Thomas Wydler, Conway Savage, Jim Sclavunos. * April 2003—: Nick Cave, Mick Harvey, Warren Ellis, Martyn P. Casey, Thomas Wydler, Conway Savage, Jim Sclavunos, James Johnston. Nationalities Band leader Cave moved from Melbourne to London in 1980. Since forming The Bad Seeds in 1984 he has lived in Berlin, São Paulo, London, and Brighton (UK). The various international members of the band meet to record and tour. Nationalities of the current and ex-members are: * Australian: Nick Cave, Mick Harvey, Hugo Race, Tracy Pew (deceased), Martyn P Casey, Conway Savage, and Warren Ellis * British: Barry Adamson and James Johnston * German: Blixa Bargeld and Roland Wolf * Swiss: Thomas Wydler * American: Kid Congo Powers and Jim Sclavunos I take it these are the first Swiss & German artists in the BLC?

Edgy DC Apr 17 2006 06:10 PM

I thought there was a Brazilian in there also.

Willets Point Apr 17 2006 06:19 PM

There's a lot of members in that band, but I only count 14, far short of a brazilian.

Edgy DC Apr 17 2006 06:32 PM

Nice.

Rockin' Doc Apr 17 2006 11:13 PM

Another contest that I can't even vote in. Not familiar enough with either band.

seawolf17 Apr 18 2006 08:37 AM

In the quest to be completely fair to bands I've barely even heard of, I have "The Best of NC&BS" on hold at the library. I'll pick it up tomorrow and vote then.

sharpie Apr 18 2006 09:15 AM

Waiting for pictures.

Edgy DC Apr 18 2006 09:53 AM

Sorry, you can time the launch of this matchup from the point of this posting. Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds vs. =indigo]The Velvet Underground "The Mercy Seat" vs. "Sweet Jane (full-lenth version)" "The Weeping Song" vs. "Pale Blue Eyes" "Red Right Hand" vs. "Rock and Roll" "Do You Love Me" vs. "What Goes On (Closet Mix)" "From Her To Eternity" vs. "Beginning to See the Light" "Were The Wild Roses Grow" vs. "Femme Fatale" "Papa Won't Leave You, Henry" vs. "White Light/White Heat" "(Are You) The One That I've Been Waiting For?" vs. "Heroin" "Your Funeral... My Trial" vs. "I'm Waiting for the Man" "As I Sat Sadly By Her Side " vs. "I'll Be Your Mirror"

metirish Apr 18 2006 09:11 PM

Ok, do people hate this BLC?, can someone get the voting started please.

sharpie Apr 18 2006 09:43 PM

I don't hate it. "The Mercy Seat" vs. "Sweet Jane (full-lenth version)" VU "The Weeping Song" vs. "Pale Blue Eyes" VU "Red Right Hand" vs. "Rock and Roll" tie "Do You Love Me" vs. "What Goes On (Closet Mix)" NC&BS "From Her To Eternity" vs. "Beginning to See the Light" NC&BS "Were The Wild Roses Grow" vs. "Femme Fatale" VU "Papa Won't Leave You, Henry" vs. "White Light/White Heat" VU "(Are You) The One That I've Been Waiting For?" vs. "Heroin" VU "Your Funeral... My Trial" vs. "I'm Waiting for the Man" NC&BS "As I Sat Sadly By Her Side " vs. "I'll Be Your Mirror" tie VU 6 Nick Cave 4

Johnny Dickshot Apr 18 2006 09:56 PM

I confess to being Nick Cave incompetant. But in the spirit of this great contest I will try and learn something more about 'em.

metirish Apr 18 2006 09:58 PM

Thanks Dickshot, I think you might be surprised with how good they are.

Willets Point Apr 18 2006 10:14 PM

CD purchases at Newbury Comics tonight include: The Best of Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds & The Best of The Velvet Underground (the latter I have on an old cassette so this is an upgrade) Should be able to vote in this tomorrow.

metirish Apr 18 2006 10:18 PM

Willets that's very cool, I really don't care if my team wins, if when you listen to those CD's and become a fan then that's super cool , Nick Cave is not nearly as depressing as he used to be,I think the family has changed him a tad.

cooby Apr 18 2006 11:11 PM

metirish wrote: Nick Cave is not nearly as depressing as he used to be . Now THAT is an endorsement!

metirish Apr 18 2006 11:15 PM

hahaha..but I like depressing, he seems to have found religion.

Willets Point Apr 19 2006 12:58 AM

"The Mercy Seat" vs. "Sweet Jane (full-lenth version)" Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds "The Weeping Song" vs. "Pale Blue Eyes" The Velvet Underground "Red Right Hand" vs. "Rock and Roll" Tie "Do You Love Me" vs. "What Goes On (Closet Mix)" The Velvet Underground "From Her To Eternity" vs. "Beginning to See the Light"The Velvet Underground "Were The Wild Roses Grow" vs. "Femme Fatale" Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds Holy shit! That's Kylie Minogue? She sounds like Kate Bush. Very sexy vocals. "Papa Won't Leave You, Henry" vs. "White Light/White Heat" Tie "(Are You) The One That I've Been Waiting For?" vs. "Heroin" The Velvet Underground "Your Funeral... My Trial" vs. "I'm Waiting for the Man" The Velvet Underground "As I Sat Sadly By Her Side " vs. "I'll Be Your Mirror" Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds 4:6 The Velvet Underground The educational aspect of this challenge is the best outcome for me.

sharpie Apr 20 2006 09:07 AM

I guess this one's over with a very poor turnout: 12-8 Velvets.

seawolf17 Apr 20 2006 09:23 AM

Unfortunately, that's what happens when you bring in a band that nobody knows. I'm hoping to pick up the disc from the library today, so at least I'll give it a listen.

Rockin' Doc Apr 20 2006 09:37 AM

The less main stream and more obscure the bands involved in a challenge, the fewer the votes registered in the challenge. At least our members aren't casting arbitrary ballots. If we aren't familiar with the bands, we as a group tend refrain from voting in the challenges. There are a few bands active in the BLC that I have only limited (or no) familiarity with the musical catalog. Unfortunately, 30 second sound bites don't provide a fair exposure to these bands. Personally, I don't have enough desire to learn about these bands to go plop down $15 dollars for a CD in order to gain sufficient exposure to vote.

Willets Point Apr 20 2006 10:32 AM

As a new owner of a Nick Cave CD I have to say I'm very impressed. Of course I've heard of the band for a long while and heard songs here and there so I didn't just get the CD blindly, but metirish's nomination finally moved me to make the purchase. How about if we start a thread of bands we like that are not necessarily mainstream but we may want to include in the BLC so folks can have time to bone up? If you don't want to buy new CD's the public library option is a really good one. You'll be surprised what you can find at your local public library.* * Willets Point made this endorsement on his own and did not receive any payment from the ALA or the PLA.

metirish Apr 20 2006 04:35 PM

I like the idea Willets, glad you made the effort on Cave and it's great to hear that you are impressed, my work here is done...:)