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Question for our college age poolers

TheOldMole Apr 17 2006 09:15 PM

Scarlet doesn't count, even though she is college aged. Have you ever heard of Dean Martin?

TheOldMole Apr 18 2006 05:10 PM

I actually had a reason for asking this. I'm going to be bringing something into class tomorrow that requires a certain knowledge of Dean Martin, and I was wondering how much I'd have to explain.

Willets Point Apr 18 2006 10:10 PM

I'm ten years post-college and my knowledge of Dean Martin is: 1) Skinny guy in tux with cocktail in his hands who croons old standards 2) Often drunk 3) Part of the rat pack with Sinatra, Davis Jr., et al

Frayed Knot Apr 18 2006 10:26 PM

I think you should flunk the first kid who asks if he was Ricky's father.

TheOldMole Apr 18 2006 11:16 PM

Willets - that would be all you'd need to know. Sigh...I'm resigned to the fact that I'm going to have to fill them in.

DocTee Apr 18 2006 11:28 PM

My English prof colleague (I'm an historian) was aghast that none of his frosh knew of the Moonies. Dino, I think, would be a bit more memorable, if only because of his association with the Rat Pack. Ask them if they could name the members of the Rat Pack: that will really be a test!

Yancy Street Gang Apr 19 2006 06:59 AM

Willets Point wrote: I'm ten years post-college and my knowledge of Dean Martin is: 1) Skinny guy in tux with cocktail in his hands who croons old standards 2) Often drunk 3) Part of the rat pack with Sinatra, Davis Jr., et al Not to mention Celebrity Roasts, Jerry Lewis... When the Moon Hits Your Eye Like a Big Pizza Pie...

Rockin' Doc Apr 19 2006 07:44 AM

My 17 year high old son had no idea who Dean Martin was. He gave me a blank stare then replied, "no, never heard of him". Just for kicks, I asked him if he knew who Jerry Lewis was. He stared at me for a second, then shook his head no. When I told him that he had seen old movies with Jerry Lewis in them, he simply replied, "Probably, but I never pay attention who'e in them". It seems like the generation gap grows larger with each passing year.

mlbaseballtalk Apr 19 2006 08:25 AM

I'll give you another Deano reference that probably is less and less well known with each passing year as well. Catcher In The Rye got it's title because Haulden honestly thought "When somebody loves somebody sometimes..." was "When somebody catches somebody running through the rye..."

Yancy Street Gang Apr 19 2006 09:22 AM

I'm pleased to say that my nine-year-old son knows who Humphrey Bogart and James Cagney are. And Errol Flynn and Clark Gable, too. And possibly Henry Fonda and Spencer Tracy. But probably not Dean Martin.

mlbaseballtalk Apr 19 2006 09:31 AM

Yancy Street Gang wrote: I'm pleased to say that my nine-year-old son knows who Humphrey Bogart and James Cagney are. And Errol Flynn and Clark Gable, too. And possibly Henry Fonda and Spencer Tracy. But probably not Dean Martin. Nice! I'm going to work in a few years on my nephew. He better know who those who came before are in all genres and all forms of things that past should be reconigized.

TheOldMole Apr 19 2006 12:14 PM

Two people in my class today (not counting the older students) knew who Dean Martin was. Of those two, only one had heard of Martin and Lewis. But that's not so bad. My college prof office mate, who must be 40, had never heard of Martin and Lewis either.

TheOldMole Apr 19 2006 12:15 PM

MLB -- sadly, you have it a little wrong. Dean didn't record "Everybody Loves Somebody..." till the sixties. Holden is referring to an old Scottish ballad by Robert Burns.

Vic Sage Apr 19 2006 12:24 PM

Did they know who "Matt Helm" was?

Edgy DC Apr 19 2006 12:55 PM

If mlbaseballtalk were Mark David Chapman, Dean Martin would've been shot. Or something.