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Schaefer POTG 04/17/06 Mets 4 Braves 3

Yancy Street Gang Apr 17 2006 10:04 PM

Box score REMEMBER: VOTE FOR MARTINEZ NOT FOR PEDRO! Martinez 4 Sanchez 1 Wagner 1 Delgado 2 Nady 2

Nymr83 Apr 17 2006 10:08 PM

Delgado 2 Nady 3 LoDuca 2 Martinez 1 Sanchez 1 Wagner 1 if pedro were anyone else i think he'd get minimal points for six and a third with three runs, we'll see...

*62 Apr 17 2006 10:22 PM Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Apr 17 2006 11:14 PM

Martinez - 2 LoDuca - 2 Nady - 2 Delgado - 2 Sanchez - 1 Wagner - 1

sharpie Apr 17 2006 10:22 PM

Nady 3 Martinez 2.5 Lo Duca 2 Sanchez 1.5 Wagner 1

Gwreck Apr 17 2006 10:36 PM

^ No love for Delgado? Martinez 2.1 Nady 2.1 Delgado 2.1 Lo Duca 1.7 Sanchez 1 Wagner 1

ScarletKnight41 Apr 17 2006 10:42 PM

Martinez - 3 Delgado - 2.5 Nady - 2.5 Sanchez - 1 Wagner - 1

TheOldMole Apr 17 2006 10:43 PM

Martinez 4 Sanchez 1 Wagner 1 Delgado 2 Nady 2

Frayed Knot Apr 17 2006 10:45 PM

Martinez - 3.1 Delgado - 1.5 Nady - 1.8 LoDuca - 1.4 Floyd - 0.1 Sanchez - 1.1 Wagner - 1.0

Zvon Apr 17 2006 10:52 PM

LoDuca: 2 Delgado: 2 Nady: 2 Martinez: 2 Sanchez: 1 Wagner: 1

Johnny Dickshot Apr 17 2006 10:55 PM

]if pedro were anyone else i think he'd get minimal points for six and a third with three runs, we'll see... Read up on quality starts. Martinez 2.7 Nady 2.3 Delgado 2.0 Sanchez 1.5 LoDuca 0.9 Wagner 0.4 Floyd 0.2

TransMonk Apr 17 2006 11:04 PM

Martinez 2 Nady 2 Delgado 2 LoDuca 2 Wagner 1 Sanchez 1

Nymr83 Apr 17 2006 11:20 PM

JD- i disagree with the definition of quality starts, when the league ERA is under 4.5 3 runs over 6 shouldn't be considered quality. Sharpie- no points for Delgado? was that a typo? are you mad he didnt take a curtain call?

Johnny Dickshot Apr 17 2006 11:34 PM

It was 3 over 6.2 which is less than 4.50..., um, something like 3.50 (don;t trust my math this late). QS is a baseline minimum. Teams that get a QS win @ 67%.

metsmarathon Apr 17 2006 11:48 PM

Martinez 3 Delgado 2 Nady 2 Loduca 1 Sanchez 1 Wagner 1

Nymr83 Apr 18 2006 01:46 AM

Johnny Dickshot wrote: QS is a baseline minimum. i'll agree that a so called quality start is the minimum i'd like to get out of my starter, but that doesnt make it "quality", quality should be above the minimum. back to my point though, which is that an outing like this doesnt deserve, imo, too many points and that if zambrano had had this identical outing he'd get less points than pedro would.

DocTee Apr 18 2006 03:30 AM

]VOTE FOR MARTINEZ NOT FOR PEDRO! That's not what the shirt says...

DocTee Apr 18 2006 03:32 AM

Delgado: 2 Nady: 2 Wagner: 1 Martinez: 3 Sanchez: 1 LoDuca: 1

KC Apr 18 2006 06:54 AM

Martinez 4 Sanchez 1 Wagner 1 Delgado 2 Nady 2 There are some days I just look at someone elses card and say yup ©.

Elster88 Apr 18 2006 07:46 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 18 2006 08:39 AM

Nady 3 Delgado 2.5 Martinez 2 LoDuca 1.25 Sanchez 0.75 Wagner 0.5

abogdan Apr 18 2006 08:36 AM

Martinez 2 Sanchez .5 Wagner .5 Nady 3 Delgado 3 LoDuca 1

holychicken Apr 18 2006 09:07 AM

Martinez 2 Delgado 2 Nady 2 Loduca 2 Sanchez 1 Wagner 1

metirish Apr 18 2006 09:48 AM

Martinez 3 Delgado 2 Nady 2 LoDuca 1 Sanchez 1 Wagner 1

mlbaseballtalk Apr 18 2006 09:57 AM

Martinez 3 Delgado 3 Nady 3 Sanchez .5 Wagner .5

Willets Point Apr 18 2006 12:52 PM

Delgado 2.5 LoDuca 2 Martinez 1 Nady 2.5 Sanchez 1.5 Wagner 0.5

Vic Sage Apr 18 2006 01:57 PM

Delgado 2.5 Nady 2.5 LoDuca 1.25 Martinez 1.25 Sanchez 1.25 Wagner 1.25

OlerudOwned Apr 18 2006 04:00 PM

Nady: 2.9 Delgado: 2.8 Martinez: 2.3 Sanchez: 1 Wagner: 1

GYC Apr 18 2006 10:43 PM

Delgado 3 Nady 3 Martinez 2 Sanchez 1 Wagner 1

Yancy Street Gang Apr 19 2006 09:25 AM

Voting for this game will close on Thursday morning.

Yancy Street Gang Apr 20 2006 09:17 AM

VOTING FOR THIS GAME IS NOW CLOSED Totals for April 17, 2006 (23 votes) New York Mets 4, Atlanta Braves 3 Name Total Points Points Awarded Player Performance Pedro Martinez 56.95 2.48 (W) 6.2 IP, 6 H, 3 ER, 2 BB, 8 SO. Xavier Nady 54.60 2.37 3-4, R, HR, 2 RBI. Carlos Delgado 49.40 2.15 2-3, R, HR, 2 RBI, BB, SO. Paul Lo Duca 24.50 1.07 3-4, R, 2B. Duaner Sanchez 23.60 1.03 1.1 IP, 0 H, 0 ER, 0 BB, 2 SO. Billy Wagner 20.65 0.90 (Sv) 1.0 IP, 0 H, 0 ER, 0 BB, 2 SO. Cliff Floyd 0.30 0.01 1-2, R, 2B. CPF Schaefer Voting Results

Elster88 Apr 20 2006 09:19 AM

Nady's wondering what exactly a guy has to do to get the most points on a day when a pitcher submits a so-so performance.

Nymr83 Apr 20 2006 11:41 AM

Elster88 wrote: Nady's wondering what exactly a guy has to do to get the most points on a day when a pitcher submits a so-so performance. have the pitcher not be named pedro.

Yancy Street Gang Apr 20 2006 11:53 AM

Do you really think Pedro deserved much less than 2.48 for (W) 6.2 IP, 6 H, 3 ER, 2 BB, 8 SO?

Willets Point Apr 20 2006 11:56 AM

Nymr83 wrote: ="Elster88"]Nady's wondering what exactly a guy has to do to get the most points on a day when a pitcher submits a so-so performance. have the pitcher not be named pedro. People have been sucking up to Glavine too. Even in losses that he's responsible for by serving up meatballs to Andruw Jones.

Yancy Street Gang Apr 20 2006 12:02 PM

In Glavine's case, I think 8 innings and one earned run is a very good contribution towards winning, and deserving of a good chunk of points. Are you sure it isn't an anti-Glavine bias that caused you to give him only one point?

Willets Point Apr 20 2006 12:18 PM

Maybe, but I factored in that a) a loss in an important game against a major division rival didn't deserve many points to the Mets overall so I only awarded the minimum 6 b) Glavine's pitching sucess was aided by the winds and the Braves scrub lineup and c) the Jones homer and Wright's errors were responsible for the the loss so Glavine loses a point as co-goat du jour.

Nymr83 Apr 20 2006 12:51 PM

giving pedro ANY points for this outing while not giving glavine AT LEAST 5 for 8 innings and 1 earned run is the epitome of the pedro ass-kissing that i am alleging takes place. edit- spelling

Yancy Street Gang Apr 20 2006 01:17 PM

I'll always give points to a pitcher who goes 6 innings. Even if he gives up 7 earned runs, I'll throw him at least a half point for sticking in there long enough to save the bullpen a little work.

Elster88 Apr 20 2006 02:30 PM

Yancy Street Gang wrote: Do you really think Pedro deserved much less than 2.48 for (W) 6.2 IP, 6 H, 3 ER, 2 BB, 8 SO? 2.5 may be about right. It depends on what else happened that game. I only gave him two because of Nady and Delgado I also think Nady deserved more than what he got.