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Jared Porter in Hot Water (split from They Go to Jared) [update: terminated]

Edgy MD
Jan 18 2021 09:30 PM

Jared Porter, texter of unsolicited dick pix.



I really wanted to be wrong about him being an overgrown frat boy, but, well ... shit.

batmagadanleadoff
Jan 18 2021 09:51 PM
Re: They Go to Jared

New owner. New GM. Sandy back in the fold. And they still can't shake the stench of #LOLMets!

Edgy MD
Jan 18 2021 10:02 PM
Re: They Go to Jared

I was stupid for putting this here. It deserves its own thread.

Edgy MD
Jan 18 2021 10:08 PM
Re: Jared Porter in Hot Water (split from They Go to Jared)

I was setting the odds of him retaining his job at about 61%. Now that I've chewed on it, that may be too high.



On his side, it was X years ago, and it may or may not be a closed issue with the apparent victim. Plus, Cohen allegedly ran a boys-go-crazy show at his hedge fund shop. That could go against him as well, of course.



Against him, besides that, is, well, #TimesUp and #MeToo. Plus Sandy has a solid rep as a class act.



I'm resetting his survival likelihood at 54%. The Mets are damned either way, of course.



Most immediately, this may seriously dick up the pursuit of George Springer.

batmagadanleadoff
Jan 18 2021 10:11 PM
Re: Jared Porter in Hot Water (split from They Go to Jared)

Edgy MD wrote:

I was setting the odds of him retaining his job at about 61%. Now that I've chewed on it, that may be too high.


I agree. This sounds like a very serious matter.

Gwreck
Jan 18 2021 10:28 PM
Re: Jared Porter in Hot Water (split from They Go to Jared)

Zero percent chance. Fire him and move on. No need for the distraction.

Edgy MD
Jan 18 2021 10:32 PM
Re: Jared Porter in Hot Water (split from They Go to Jared)

I may well agree, but if the Mets didn't fire him this evening, surely there is some non-zero likelihood they do not.

Gwreck
Jan 18 2021 10:37 PM
Re: Jared Porter in Hot Water (split from They Go to Jared)

It's a holiday weekend and the prudent thing to do is at least talk to the lawyers first. Doing something within 24 hours is fine.



Anything less than termination is unacceptable to me as a fan of the franchise, given that Porter admitted to the coduct.

G-Fafif
Jan 18 2021 11:10 PM
Re: Jared Porter in Hot Water (split from They Go to Jared)

Mets.com front office section lists only the following in lieu of names:


Check back soon for updated information.


For comparison's sake, the other four NL East front office directories are all intact.

Fman99
Jan 19 2021 04:44 AM
Re: Jared Porter in Hot Water (split from They Go to Jared)

Dumbass.

batmagadanleadoff
Jan 19 2021 05:04 AM
Re: Jared Porter in Hot Water (split from They Go to Jared)

Mets player tells Daily News that Jared Porter should be fired for harassing woman reporter: ‘F--king disgusting'



Excerpt:





A player in the Mets' system believes his new GM needs to be fired immediately.



The Daily News granted the player anonymity so he could speak candidly about the growing scandal around GM Jared Porter sending an unwanted photo of his penis to a woman reporter in 2016.



“I just finished reading the article,” the player said of ESPN's Monday night report. “F--king disgusting, the Mets have to fire him. They can't get this wrong. She left the profession because of this man, he cannot be employed.”



Porter sent the woman a photo of an erect penis (that he denies is his own) after 62 straight ignored messages.


https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/ny-jared-porter-mets-firing-20210119-ketzqscamrc2hj2bicnuczx5sy-story.html

TransMonk
Jan 19 2021 05:07 AM
Re: Jared Porter in Hot Water (split from They Go to Jared)

For fuck's sake. Kick his ass out the door.

Johnny Lunchbucket
Jan 19 2021 05:17 AM
Re: Jared Porter in Hot Water (split from They Go to Jared)

=Gwreck post_id=54264 time=1611034090 user_id=56]
Zero percent chance. Fire him and move on. No need for the distraction.



Yup

Benjamin Grimm
Jan 19 2021 05:34 AM
Re: Jared Porter in Hot Water (split from They Go to Jared)

A few thoughts:



1. Yeah, you gotta get rid of him. The good news is that one of the runners up for the position, Zach Scott, is already in the organization and promoting him seems the easy and logical choice.



2. If "it was somebody else's penis" is supposed to make this less bad, it doesn't.



3. Even if he had stopped just short of the dick pic, he still behaved abominably. 62 consecutive texts (and many of them pretty pathetic) without a response? That's also harassment, and probably worth being fired over.



4. Beyond that, is he unable to take a hint? Does he have any pride? If I was trying to "woo" a woman through texts, if I went a few days and a few texts without a response, I'd probably send a message saying, "Hey, it seems like you're not interested. If I'm wrong, and you've just been busy, let me know. Otherwise, I won't bother you anymore. Thanks." But 62 texts over a period of weeks or months? Had the planet run out of women or something?



5. Thanks for you part in getting us Francisco Lindor and Carlos Carrasco and, most importantly, Joey Lucchesi. Now don't let the door hit you in someone else's ass as you leave.



Sheesh.

ashie62
Jan 19 2021 06:07 AM
Re: Jared Porter in Hot Water (split from They Go to Jared)

Drunk and stupid can result in dire consequences.



Goodbye and nothing to see.

Fman99
Jan 19 2021 06:09 AM
Re: Jared Porter in Hot Water (split from They Go to Jared)

I've been drunk and stupid since 1987 and still managed to not send photos of my boner to anyone. There haven't even been any close calls. And this is ME we're talking about. No means no, dude.

seawolf17
Jan 19 2021 06:22 AM
Re: Jared Porter in Hot Water (split from They Go to Jared)

I am stunned that he survived the night. Fuck off, Porter.

Johnny Lunchbucket
Jan 19 2021 06:23 AM
Re: Jared Porter in Hot Water (split from They Go to Jared)

Some guy says he is already whacked

Gwreck
Jan 19 2021 06:23 AM
Re: Jared Porter in Hot Water (split from They Go to Jared)

https://twitter.com/stevenacohen2/status/1351513683663450116?s=21

smg58
Jan 19 2021 06:23 AM
Re: Jared Porter in Hot Water (split from They Go to Jared)

And he's out. One extremely memorable trade that may be difference-making for years to come, but he deserved to go and go quickly.

seawolf17
Jan 19 2021 06:26 AM
Re: Jared Porter in Hot Water (split from They Go to Jared)

Hey, there you go. Well done, Mets.



Also, brb getting my resume together quickly

Johnny Lunchbucket
Jan 19 2021 06:31 AM
Re: Jared Porter in Hot Water (split from They Go to Jared)

Struck me as a guy who didn't take care of himself (said as much if insensitively in the press conference thread).

batmagadanleadoff
Jan 19 2021 06:35 AM
Re: Jared Porter in Hot Water (split from They Go to Jared)

It's a terrible shame. He appeared to be a rising star in the baseball world.

Edgy MD
Jan 19 2021 06:38 AM
Re: Jared Porter in Hot Water (split from They Go to Jared)

The goofy part is reading back testimonials from when he got hired, describing him as decent, sensitive, and thoughtful.


[TWEET]https://twitter.com/billjamesonline/status/1338305439520448512[/TWEET]

MFS62
Jan 19 2021 06:58 AM
Re: Jared Porter in Hot Water (split from They Go to Jared) [update: terminated]

ESPN has never said anything positive about the Mets - EVER.

But this deserves to be aired.

And the penalty is appropriate.



Later

nymr83
Jan 19 2021 07:03 AM
Re: Jared Porter in Hot Water (split from They Go to Jared)

Benjamin Grimm wrote:

A few thoughts:



1. Yeah, you gotta get rid of him. The good news is that one of the runners up for the position, Zach Scott, is already in the organization and promoting him seems the easy and logical choice.



2. If "it was somebody else's penis" is supposed to make this less bad, it doesn't.



3. Even if he had stopped just short of the dick pic, he still behaved abominably. 62 consecutive texts (and many of them pretty pathetic) without a response? That's also harassment, and probably worth being fired over.



4. Beyond that, is he unable to take a hint? Does he have any pride? If I was trying to "woo" a woman through texts, if I went a few days and a few texts without a response, I'd probably send a message saying, "Hey, it seems like you're not interested. If I'm wrong, and you've just been busy, let me know. Otherwise, I won't bother you anymore. Thanks." But 62 texts over a period of weeks or months? Had the planet run out of women or something?



5. Thanks for you part in getting us Francisco Lindor and Carlos Carrasco and, most importantly, Joey Lucchesi. Now don't let the door hit you in someone else's ass as you leave.



Sheesh.




I agree he had to go and I'm glad Cohen sent that tweet before 8 AM. This would have been a 3-day scandal with the Wilpons.



The penis picture and also the 'bulge in the pants' picture were immediate grounds for getting fired. to your #2 above, i havent read all the texts but unless they were sexually explicit you dont deserve to be fired for being a desperate loser (in your love life) - As long as the texts WERE not individually inappropriate and she didnt tell him to stop.

duan
Jan 19 2021 07:07 AM
Re: Jared Porter in Hot Water (split from They Go to Jared) [update: terminated]

well at least Steve Coen is decisive. The worst thing about the Beltran was the protracted nature of it, it made it clear that they were really only thinking about the public perception of things rather than the actuality of events.



Can't say I have any sympathy - I've seen various "it was 5 years ago" stuff, but it wasn't like he was a clumsy overeager teenager.

Johnny Lunchbucket
Jan 19 2021 07:35 AM
Re: Jared Porter in Hot Water (split from They Go to Jared) [update: terminated]

Disturbing that this was something of a known secret that the Mets couldn't manage to get wind of.

Edgy MD
Jan 19 2021 07:43 AM
Re: Jared Porter in Hot Water (split from They Go to Jared) [update: terminated]

That to me is the real takeaway. Either the Mets didn't do any vetting for a very important, face-forward position, or they did and just hoped it would stay under wraps.



Either way, come on.

smg58
Jan 19 2021 08:23 AM
Re: Jared Porter in Hot Water (split from They Go to Jared) [update: terminated]

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote:

Disturbing that this was something of a known secret that the Mets couldn't manage to get wind of.


This, unfortunately.

A Boy Named Seo
Jan 19 2021 08:30 AM
Re: Jared Porter in Hot Water (split from They Go to Jared) [update: terminated]

I'm so glad this dude was fired before I woke up today.

Fman99
Jan 19 2021 08:36 AM
Re: Jared Porter in Hot Water (split from They Go to Jared) [update: terminated]

So who's the most reprehensible Jared now? The Subway guy? The shit-ass presidential son in law? Or this guy firing off the dong photos? So many choices.

Gwreck
Jan 19 2021 08:38 AM
Re: Jared Porter in Hot Water (split from They Go to Jared) [update: terminated]

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote:

Disturbing that this was something of a known secret that the Mets couldn't manage to get wind of.


It's not an excuse, but consider that Porter was also hired by another MLB organization after leaving the Cubs (his employer at the time of the conduct) but before the Mets.



If we assume Porter was not honest when asked a “skeletons in the closet” question, and we know the person who was harassed was trying to keep it quiet to protect her career (as evidenced by the ESPN article), I'm not sure this could be described as “known secret.”



It's embarrassing but I don't think the Mets are unique in occasionally hiring someone with previously hidden bad conduct.

Lefty Specialist
Jan 19 2021 08:41 AM
Re: Jared Porter in Hot Water (split from They Go to Jared) [update: terminated]

Jeez. Men are stupid. How do you possibly do something like this and not think it will blow up in your face at some point?

Lefty Specialist
Jan 19 2021 08:43 AM
Re: Jared Porter in Hot Water (split from They Go to Jared) [update: terminated]

=Fman99 post_id=54316 time=1611070615 user_id=86]
So who's the most reprehensible Jared now? The Subway guy? The shit-ass presidential son in law? Or this guy firing off the dong photos? So many choices.



Ivanka's husband. Not a contest.

A Boy Named Seo
Jan 19 2021 09:24 AM
Re: Jared Porter in Hot Water (split from They Go to Jared) [update: terminated]

What level of vetting should an organization do for a position like this? Like, hiring a PI seems a little much, but one's step below a PI?

Centerfield
Jan 19 2021 09:25 AM
Re: Jared Porter in Hot Water (split from They Go to Jared) [update: terminated]

Curious. How could the Mets have known about this?

Centerfield
Jan 19 2021 09:29 AM
Re: Jared Porter in Hot Water (split from They Go to Jared)

=Fman99 post_id=54278 time=1611061758 user_id=86]
I've been drunk and stupid since 1987 and still managed to not send photos of my boner to anyone. There haven't even been any close calls. And this is ME we're talking about. No means no, dude.



Yeah. This.

Johnny Lunchbucket
Jan 19 2021 09:35 AM
Re: Jared Porter in Hot Water (split from They Go to Jared) [update: terminated]

Well ESPN (despite MFS's irrelevant remark upthread) did it's job in holding tight on this for more than 2 years but just knowing that much makes it reasonable to assume this could have come out, and there were several parties who knew. My feeling though was that it'd be a signal of how this guy has a demented perspective on interpersonal relationships and that could have bled into his day-to-day style in a way that would strike co-workers as odd and might come out in a thorough vetting

nymr83
Jan 19 2021 09:41 AM
Re: Jared Porter in Hot Water (split from They Go to Jared)


https://twitter.com/stevenacohen2/status/1351513683663450116?s=21


The more I think about it, the more I think this is a bold move by Cohen. He could have let Sandy fire him or gone about firing him in many other ways, but tweeting "zero tolerance" was bold, especially given that there were allegations of harassment at Cohen's main business - he must feel pretty damn confident that whatever those circumstances were and whatever the accuser(s) can say about the 'environment' he created, that nothing can actually be pinned on him personally, right?

nymr83
Jan 19 2021 09:42 AM
Re: Jared Porter in Hot Water (split from They Go to Jared) [update: terminated]


Johnny Lunchbucket wrote:

Disturbing that this was something of a known secret that the Mets couldn't manage to get wind of.


It's not an excuse, but consider that Porter was also hired by another MLB organization after leaving the Cubs (his employer at the time of the conduct) but before the Mets.



If we assume Porter was not honest when asked a “skeletons in the closet” question, and we know the person who was harassed was trying to keep it quiet to protect her career (as evidenced by the ESPN article), I'm not sure this could be described as “known secret.”



It's embarrassing but I don't think the Mets are unique in occasionally hiring someone with previously hidden bad conduct.


agreed completely, you can't go "LOLMets" when the Diamondbacks couldn't find this either - maybe it was just a well-kept secret - the people who knew werent talking!

LWFS
Jan 19 2021 10:24 AM
Re: Jared Porter in Hot Water (split from They Go to Jared)

Cohen made the only move he could make, and did it swiftly.



Had this been the previous regime-- and I get how pointless it is to constantly do this, but crisis-management brings it inescapably to mind-- we would've gotten a "The organization is looking into these serious allegations" memo, and then never hear about it again, except through countless leaks.


Edgy MD wrote:

The goofy part is reading back testimonials from when he got hired, describing him as decent, sensitive, and thoughtful.


[TWEET]https://twitter.com/billjamesonline/status/1338305439520448512[/TWEET]


Alas, Bill James is depressingly... off about a lot of things. (In terms of Old School Stalwarts revealing themselves after going online in a way that almost stains their previous contributions/importance, he's low-key been Murray Chass-class of late.)

LWFS
Jan 19 2021 10:27 AM
Re: Jared Porter in Hot Water (split from They Go to Jared)

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=Fman99 post_id=54278 time=1611061758 user_id=86]
I've been drunk and stupid since 1987 and still managed to not send photos of my boner to anyone. There haven't even been any close calls. And this is ME we're talking about. No means no, dude.



Yeah. This.


The first rule of Drunk and Stupid Club is, we don't talk about Drunk and Stupid Club. The second rule is, we talk about Drunk and Stupid Club incessantly, with extraneous cursing, and WAY too loud.



Joking aside, if all that this particular incident/article does is get Porter out of a position of power and make shitheels a little more likely to act in an outwardly decent manner, if only out of simple fear of revelation/public shame, then, hey: two big thumbs up.

Edgy MD
Jan 19 2021 10:36 AM
Re: Jared Porter in Hot Water (split from They Go to Jared)

Alas, Bill James is depressingly... off about a lot of things. (In terms of Old School Stalwarts revealing themselves after going online in a way that almost stains their previous contributions/importance, he's low-key been Murray Chass-class of late.)


Yeah, but that's just one version of a lot of praise — character praise — the guy seemed to get at the time of his hire.



At another time, Bill James once wrote the following:


When a young player comes to the major leagues and has success right away, writers will almost always write about what a fine young man he is as well as a supreme talent. Never pay any attention to those articles or those descriptions. Albert Pujols is going through this now... people who didn't know Albert Pujols from Jack the Ripper six months ago and have never talked to him more than six feet from his locker are writing very sincerely about what an exceptional young man he is. Doc Gooden, his first three years in baseball, was supposed to be mature beyond his years, polite to everybody, and kind to stray kittens. Rickey Henderson was routinely described, from 1980 through 1982, as "a Jack Armstrong type kid."



Sportswriters, despite thier cynicism or because of it, desperately want to believe in athletes as heroes, and will project their hopes onto anyone who offers a blank slate. The problem with this is that, when the players turns out to be human and fallible, people feel betrayed. It is a disservice to athletes to try to make them more than they really are.


It's interesting that James himself fell into the trap, but not with an exciting young athlete, but rather an exciting (to inside-baseball geeks) young front office executive. But there are plenty of similar tweets out there from a little over a month ago, so James ain't alone.

whippoorwill
Jan 19 2021 11:18 AM
Re: Jared Porter in Hot Water (split from They Go to Jared) [update: terminated]

=Fman99 post_id=54316 time=1611070615 user_id=86]
So who's the most reprehensible Jared now? The Subway guy? The shit-ass presidential son in law? Or this guy firing off the dong photos? So many choices.



When I was a teenage girl Jared was one of my ‘boy names' when I grew up and had kids



Glad I went with ‘Tony' instead

Frayed Knot
Jan 19 2021 01:21 PM
Re: Jared Porter in Hot Water (split from They Go to Jared)


I've been drunk and stupid since 1987 and still managed to not send photos of my boner to anyone. There haven't even been any close calls. And this is ME we're talking about. No means no, dude.


This should be the standard going forward for situations like this.

Boss: "You're fired"

Cad: "But why?"

Boss: "Because you did something even FMan wouldn't do!"

Edgy MD
Jan 19 2021 02:13 PM
Re: Jared Porter in Hot Water (split from They Go to Jared) [update: terminated]

Poorly shaven Sandy live right now.



[YOUTUBE]Sy1tGrZjXmI[/YOUTUBE]

Edgy MD
Jan 19 2021 02:18 PM
Re: Jared Porter in Hot Water (split from They Go to Jared) [update: terminated]

Not expecting to fill the position quickly.



DiComo asking what Jared's explanation was.



Sandy sez "There was no explanation. He was apologetic, remorseful, and took responsibility. I wouldn't have expected a good explanation."



"Me 'n' Steve both reached the same conclusion independently."

Edgy MD
Jan 19 2021 02:19 PM
Re: Jared Porter in Hot Water (split from They Go to Jared) [update: terminated]

"I have not heard from any players. I wish anonymous player had the comfort to voice his opinion for attribution. It was the right thing to say."

Edgy MD
Jan 19 2021 02:20 PM
Re: Jared Porter in Hot Water (split from They Go to Jared) [update: terminated]

"We did a routine background check. We didn't do an FBI-level investigation. Should we do that in the future? Maybe. This risk exists with every employee that's hired."

Johnny Lunchbucket
Jan 19 2021 02:21 PM
Re: Jared Porter in Hot Water (split from They Go to Jared) [update: terminated]

Davidoff reporting live from his bathroom, in his undershirt

Edgy MD
Jan 19 2021 02:22 PM
Re: Jared Porter in Hot Water (split from They Go to Jared) [update: terminated]

"I have been the head of baseball operations since I was hired and will continue to be so. I'm very happy with the group we have been building."

Edgy MD
Jan 19 2021 02:23 PM
Re: Jared Porter in Hot Water (split from They Go to Jared) [update: terminated]

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote:

Davidoff reporting live from his bathroom, in his undershirt


Seriously, come on, Davidoff.

Johnny Lunchbucket
Jan 19 2021 02:24 PM
Re: Jared Porter in Hot Water (split from They Go to Jared) [update: terminated]

Toscano sets his thermostat at 83 degrees, or just coming off a workout. Sherman evidently likes working with his laptop of the carpet, standing above it.

Johnny Lunchbucket
Jan 19 2021 02:27 PM
Re: Jared Porter in Hot Water (split from They Go to Jared) [update: terminated]

Pandemic has forced Healey to convert his front closet into a home office

Johnny Lunchbucket
Jan 19 2021 02:45 PM
Re: Jared Porter in Hot Water (split from They Go to Jared) [update: terminated]

Waldstein obviously didn't get the "don't touch your face" COVID memo.



Carig reports from a LIDS store at the mall yet is not wearing a hat.



Carig brings his a strong body language to his questioning, looking directly at the subject and with an expression that says "you have to answer for this." Good fundies

Edgy MD
Jan 19 2021 02:57 PM
Re: Jared Porter in Hot Water (split from They Go to Jared) [update: terminated]

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote:

Toscano sets his thermostat at 83 degrees, or just coming off a workout. Sherman evidently likes working with his laptop of the carpet, standing above it.


Toscano gets younger every press conference. I imagine he was just out skateboarding.

ashie62
Jan 19 2021 03:03 PM
Re: Jared Porter in Hot Water (split from They Go to Jared) [update: terminated]

Lefty Specialist wrote:

Jeez. Men are stupid. How do you possibly do something like this and not think it will blow up in your face at some point?


Alcohol, lots of it, was involved.

Johnny Lunchbucket
Jan 19 2021 03:43 PM
Re: Jared Porter in Hot Water (split from They Go to Jared) [update: terminated]

Yeah that's not a big leap to make. A powerful guy who does does dumb shit like this probably also has substance abuse issues

Benjamin Grimm
Jan 19 2021 05:37 PM
Re: Jared Porter in Hot Water (split from They Go to Jared) [update: terminated]

I was a little amused by how Sandy's wife (I assume) kept photobombing the session. She sure opens and closes the refrigerator a lot. But I really liked when Sandy's dog (unseen) entered the room with a squeaky toy.