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Centerfield Jan 20 2021 08:08 AM

So now what. I guess I would ask the Brewers about Cain. I could also live with Juan Lagares until the Marlins fall out of it and make Marte available. I think Bradley is a waste of money.

batmagadanleadoff Jan 20 2021 08:15 AM Re: Centerfield

All I knowldg6 is that I'm so gLsd the Mets didntv6sign Realmuyo because otyerwisez they wouodnt have been abkento trade for Lindor. So maybe we should give Lindoe bacon so we could get a centerfuekder. I'm sick and tired of correcting everything I type of my smartphone.

whippoorwill Jan 20 2021 08:21 AM Re: Centerfield

Lol I hope London likes bacon

smg58 Jan 20 2021 08:47 AM Re: Centerfield

Bradley did appear to modify his approach at the plate last season (higher walk rate, lower K rate) with favorable results, plus his best season came with Chili Davis as his hitting instructor and he's still a solid fielder. I'd have much preferred Springer, but I'm not against Bradley at this point.

bmfc1 Jan 20 2021 08:52 AM Re: Centerfield

Yes, there has been a lot of Jackie Bradley, Jr. speculation. https://www.fangraphs.com/players/jackie-bradley-jr/12984/stats?position=OF Look at his D-WAR!!! Also, it appears that he has trouble hitting righties which is a concern on a team that leans left (not a political comment). There are interesting comments here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackie_Bradley_Jr.#2018 Interesting point, smg58 about his success w/Davis. Some speculation about trading for Lorenzo Cain: https://www.fangraphs.com/players/lorenzo-cain/9077/stats?position=OF

Chad ochoseis Jan 20 2021 11:05 AM Re: Centerfield

I just wanted to acknowledge what is probably the first ever eponymous thread in the CPF. I'm in the minority here, but I'm fine with continuing to run Nimmo out there with a defensive specialist on the bench for late innings. I know what the defensive metrics say, but defensive metrics aren't as clear cut as offensive metrics, and my lying eyes can't think of any particular plays that Nimmo missed that made me say "jeezus, a competent centerfuekder would have gotten that!"

Frayed Knot Jan 20 2021 11:14 AM Re: Centerfield

If you sign a JBJ or Almora type it would be with the idea that he'd be a part timer/defensive replacement which would allow both Nimmo and Dom to get their ABs in where as one or both would have lost time if Springer signed. And, make no mistake, the defense you'd get from Cain/Almora/Bradley will be far above whatever you'd get from Nimmo OR Springer. One of those guys wouldn't really be a replacement for Springer,, more like a different approach to filling the same hole.

Edgy MD Jan 20 2021 12:09 PM Re: Centerfield

Well, he may be easily forgotten, but the Mets already have Guillermo Heredia to be that guy.

Benjamin Grimm Jan 20 2021 12:21 PM Re: Centerfield

I don't really have a feel for how the Mets outfield will look this year. Let's say there's no DH, and no more moves. Does that mean (left to right) Smith, Nimmo, Conforto? And if there is a DH? Maybe McNeil, Nimmo, Conforto, with Guillorme at second base? Am I overlooking anyone?

Edgy MD Jan 20 2021 12:29 PM Re: Centerfield

Currently, it's Smiff, Nimmo, Conforto, with Guillermo Heredia and Mallex Smith in reserve. And infielders J.D. Davis and McNeil certainly still available for outfield duty.

Johnny Lunchbucket Jan 20 2021 12:32 PM Re: Centerfield

I just like saying Jackie Bradley Junior. JBJ. Sounds like a ballplayer or a flyweight boxer or a soul singer. Love it. JBJ. LGM. YGB. JBJ.

Edgy MD Jan 20 2021 12:38 PM Re: Centerfield

And José Martinez may have already displaced Mallex on the depth chart. Jackie Bradley Jr. to me sounds like the comic opening the late show for Steve and Edie at the Sahara.

dinosaur jesus Jan 20 2021 12:48 PM Re: Centerfield

Edgy MD wrote: And José Martinez may have already displaced Mallex on the depth chart. Jackie Bradley Jr. to me sounds like the comic opening the late show for Steve and Edie at the Sahara. You may be thinking of Jackie Rogers Jr.

Benjamin Grimm Jan 20 2021 12:55 PM Re: Centerfield

It definitely sounds more like a showbiz name than a sports name.

Frayed Knot Jan 20 2021 01:04 PM Re: Centerfield

Like Buddy Young Jr. [FIMG=250]http://www.needcoffee.com/html/dvd/images/msnight0.jpg[/FIMG]

Johnny Lunchbucket Jan 20 2021 01:38 PM Re: Centerfield

Steve J. Rogers Jr.: Gadfly social media influencer and sports personality

Lefty Specialist Jan 20 2021 03:01 PM Re: Centerfield

I'm disappointed they didn't get Springer. Cheap-ass Cohens. STOP- JUST KIDDING!

nymr83 Jan 20 2021 03:30 PM Re: Centerfield

Chad ochoseis wrote: ...and my lying eyes can't think of any particular plays that Nimmo missed that made me say "jeezus, a competent centerfuekder would have gotten that!" This is the DEREK JETER defense.

Chad ochoseis Jan 21 2021 06:27 AM Re: Centerfield

Chad ochoseis wrote: ...and my lying eyes can't think of any particular plays that Nimmo missed that made me say "jeezus, a competent centerfuekder would have gotten that!" This is the DEREK JETER defense. Must...resist... arguing...on...internet... Oh, screw it. That's absolute nonsense. The "Derek Jeter defense" is this: "I know his stats are weak, and I've seen him play and he has no agility whatsoever and lacks the basic tools to play short, but he plays hard and is a leader and makes his team better just by his very jeterly jeterness." The "Derek Jeter defense" is as bad as, well, Derek Jeter's defense. What I've said is that I've seen Nimmo play and although it's clear he's not the second coming of Carlos Beltran, I don't see the same pathetic skills of, say, Daniel Murphy in left field (or even second base). I'm no baseball expert; I never even played Little League. So I may be wrong. I do know a hell of a lot about statistics. I've had a career in the field for 27 1/2 years and counting. Statistics are useful and valuable tools. But deifying statistics is as wrongheaded as ignoring them, particularly when you're looking at a field as newly developed as defensive metrics. Defensive measurements are the Amed Rosario of sabermetrics. They're new. They're raw. They're still young. They have a lot of potential, and if we stick with them they'll probably be great down the road, but right now they haven't proved a whole lot consistently and I wouldn't depend on them to carry a whole argument on their own.

Fman99 Jan 21 2021 07:57 AM Re: Centerfield

dinosaur jesus wrote: Edgy MD wrote: And José Martinez may have already displaced Mallex on the depth chart. Jackie Bradley Jr. to me sounds like the comic opening the late show for Steve and Edie at the Sahara. You may be thinking of Jackie Rogers Jr. I always think of this in my brain every time JBJ comes up in conversation.

bmfc1 Jan 21 2021 01:33 PM Re: Centerfield

Deesha says that the Mets are looking closely at Albert ("That's") Almora. (Did the Wilpons recapture the team?) [BLOCKQUOTE]Two years removed from his MLB debut during Chicago's 2016 championship run, Almora played a career-high 918.1 innings in center and posted a 10 DRS (defensive runs saved) in 2018, tied with Billy Hamilton for third-best in MLB among qualified center fielders, according to FanGraphs. His 10 OAA (outs above average) that year was sixth-best in the league, complemented by a 3.4 defensive fWAR (wins above replacement). When Almora is playing regularly, he's a defensive-first center fielder who could drastically improve the Mets' -5 center field DRS and overall -22 DRS in 2020, the latter of which was fifth-worst in MLB. He can be a fourth outfielder with Brandon Nimmo sliding over to left field and Dominic Smith either playing first base or hitting DH. But it's hard to imagine Almora getting regular playing time with the numbers he's put up offensively. His OPS has dipped every year since his debut in 2016, culminating in an awful .465 OPS and 29 OPS+ over 28 games and 30 at-bats in 2020. His strikeout rate even jumped from 17.1% to 26.5% last season. Though last year's small sample size — and generally weird pandemic-impacted 60-game season — is hardly a good indicator of Almora's plate performance, he has a career .707 OPS and .271/.309/.398 slashline — numbers that are slightly better than Juan Lagares.[/BLOCKQUOTE] https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/ny-mets-center-field-options-20210121-d6nr447bavfhflbr44sd74pr4m-story.html https://www.fangraphs.com/players/albert-almora-jr/14109/stats?position=OF

ashie62 Jan 21 2021 03:57 PM Re: Centerfield

Almora? NOOOOO

Frayed Knot Jan 21 2021 08:15 PM Re: Centerfield

Chad ochoseis wrote: What I've said is that I've seen Nimmo play and although it's clear he's not the second coming of Carlos Beltran, I don't see the same pathetic skills of, say, Daniel Murphy in left field (or even second base). I'm no baseball expert; I never even played Little League. So I may be wrong. "Pathetic" is too strong a word for it but, yeah, there have been enough balls that Nimmo hasn't reached that I believe most CFs would have gotten to most of the time. It's not bad athletics but more just the occasional bad route, bad jump, of missed first steps in a position where you'd want to put your guy who's the best in that kind of stuff. Ideally Nimmo is a LF'er (he also has an LF's arm) but less than ideally he's often had an even-less-good fielder already over there (Dom, JDD, McNeil) so that's not an option. Can you live with his defense in CF? ... yeah, if he's putting up near-.400 OBAs. Signing Springer would have allowed him to move over but then someone loses time in the shuffle. Almora or JBJ have been starters during parts of their careers but (barring injuries) don't figure to be that here. It becomes just a different way to fill the same hole: much less offense than Springer but off-set by a better (part-time) glove and significantly more ABs for Dom/Nimmo/Davis and without the fear of hitching yourself to an expensive six year deal where you wind up paying someone in his 30s based on the production he gave some other team while in his 20s And, yeah, even the most ardent stat hounds acknowledge the less than exact nature of defensive metrics. They're getting there but are still less dependable than what we've come to expect from those on the offensive side of the game.

batmagadanleadoff Jan 21 2021 08:59 PM Re: Centerfield

Frayed Knot wrote: ... without the fear of hitching yourself to an expensive six year deal where you wind up paying someone in his 30s based on the production he gave some other team while in his 20s So when that time comes, you dump him and eat the salary. That's what the Dodgers are doing. That's what the Yankees always do and they haven't had a losing record in 30 years. 30!. That's the advantage of having more money than just about everybody else. I can live without Springer on the Mets. Lindor was the best catch anyways, by far. And the upgrade from Amed and Gimenez to Lindor will be bigger than the upgrade from whoever would've been the odd man out from acquiring Springer to Springer himself. Springer won't be the same player at the end of his contract that he is today and he might not be able to play center well before he gets to the end of his new contract. And Lindor's a better player than Springer right now, as we speak. And write. And while we might not have yet seen the best of Lindor, we likely have already seen the best of Springer. Springer will decline. So will Lindor, eventually, but probably not before he gets better than he already is. What annoys the shit out of me though, is this apparent line in the sand drawn at the luxury tax. Oooooh! The luxury tax.

nymr83 Jan 22 2021 07:38 PM Re: Centerfield

I still think the luxury tax is a fake line. A negotiating tactic sort of line.

Benjamin Grimm Jan 22 2021 07:58 PM Re: Centerfield

I still think the luxury tax is a fake line. A negotiating tactic sort of line. I agree. I can't believe that someone as wealthy as Steve Cohen would be so concerned about a $75 charge. https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d2/66/dd/d266dd4788fbd6076dfec3974844f90e.jpg>

nymr83 Jan 22 2021 08:53 PM Re: Centerfield

That is probably exactly how he really sees it too. Of course he isnt going to say so, he would rather tell agents "oh man we really love your guy but you gotta understand every dollar we give you is really $1.25 to us..."

batmagadanleadoff Jan 22 2021 10:57 PM Re: Centerfield

=nymr83 post_id=54634 time=1611369515 user_id=54] I still think the luxury tax is a fake line. A negotiating tactic sort of line.

Well it wasn't so fake that the Mets dropped out of the Springer hunt.

Frayed Knot Jan 23 2021 06:00 AM Re: Centerfield

That's assuming that the luxury tax was the reason for no Springer signing. Maybe it was just that Steve & Sandy thought a player turning 32 this year was worth a $125 million risk over the next six years but not worth $150 There is always a price at which you need to be willing to walk away. As far as the luxury tax itself goes, I personally have zero rooting interest in whether Uncle Stevie chooses to go over it or not. That's up to him and his accountants.

batmagadanleadoff Jan 23 2021 06:11 AM Re: Centerfield

Frayed Knot wrote: That's up to him and his accountants. Doesn't mean that as a fan, you can't root for or against. It's also up to Cohen and his accountants whether or not to set the budget at $90M, as it would be up to the owner of any baseball team and his accountants whether or not to set the budget at $90M. Or $200M. Or $250M

Benjamin Grimm Jan 23 2021 06:25 AM Re: Centerfield

MLB.com wrote: Each year, clubs that exceed a predetermined payroll threshold are subject to a Competitive Balance Tax -- which is commonly referred to as a "luxury tax." Those who carry payrolls above that threshold are taxed on each dollar above the threshold, with the tax rate increasing based on the number of consecutive years a club has exceeded the threshold. A team's Competitive Balance Tax figure is determined using the average annual value of each player's contract on the 40-man roster, plus any additional player benefits. The threshold was $189 million from 2014-16, but the following increases were put in place per the 2017-21 Collective Bargaining Agreement: 2017: $195 million* 2018: $197 million 2019: $206 million 2020: $208 million 2021: $210 million *For 2017 only, clubs that exceeded the threshold paid the average between what their luxury tax was under the 2017-21 Collective Bargaining Agreement rules and what it would have been per the previous CBA. A club exceeding the Competitive Balance Tax threshold for the first time must pay a 20 percent tax on all overages. A club exceeding the threshold for a second consecutive season will see that figure rise to 30 percent, and three or more straight seasons of exceeding the threshold comes with a 50 percent luxury tax. If a club dips below the luxury tax threshold for a season, the penalty level is reset. So, a club that exceeds the threshold for two straight seasons but then drops below that level would be back at 20 percent the next time it exceeds the threshold. Clubs that exceed the threshold by $20 million to $40 million are also subject to a 12 percent surtax. Meanwhile, those who exceed it by more than $40 million are taxed at a 42.5 percent rate the first time and a 45 percent rate if they exceed it by more than $40 million again the following year(s). Beginning in 2018, clubs that are $40 million or more above the threshold shall have their highest selection in the next Rule 4 Draft moved back 10 places unless the pick falls in the top six. In that case, the team will have its second-highest selection moved back 10 places instead. So if the Mets have a payroll of $211 million this year, the penalty would only be $200,000. Therefore, going "slightly" over the threshold isn't a big deal, but it does set you up for larger penalties down the road. Maybe the Mets want to stay under this year, knowing that with Cano coming back they're very likely to be over next year. But I think that if the extend Lindor (increasing his AAV over the $22.5 million it's currently at) and/or Conforto, combined with a possible signing of Brad Hand, they're likely to go over anyway. In that case, $25 million to Springer would have actually cost them $30 million, in addition to potentially marginalizing Dominic Smith. The other wild card in this is that the current CBA, with its rules and its thresholds, expires this year. There may not even be a luxury tax in 2022 and beyond, and if there is, the thresholds and the penalties might be very different. I expect the players will demand a requirement that clubs have a minimum payroll to counter the luxury tax.

bmfc1 Jan 23 2021 07:09 AM Re: Centerfield

I wonder if Cohen was required to make an off-the-record promise not to exceed the luxury tax as a condition of his approval.

Edgy MD Jan 23 2021 07:54 AM Re: Centerfield

That would be something, huh? I wouldn't put it past folks. But to be introduced right into the collusion game just as you're about to join the club is the stuff of drama.

Frayed Knot Jan 23 2021 02:21 PM Re: Centerfield

Frayed Knot wrote: That's up to him and his accountants. Doesn't mean that as a fan, you can't root for or against. It's also up to Cohen and his accountants whether or not to set the budget at $90M, as it would be up to the owner of any baseball team and his accountants whether or not to set the budget at $90M. Or $200M. Or $250M I hope for the team to be well run both on and off the field. That's not the same thing as rooting for the payroll of the 25-man roster to be at of above any specific number.

batmagadanleadoff Jan 23 2021 04:51 PM Re: Centerfield

Frayed Knot wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: That's up to him and his accountants. Doesn't mean that as a fan, you can't root for or against. It's also up to Cohen and his accountants whether or not to set the budget at $90M, as it would be up to the owner of any baseball team and his accountants whether or not to set the budget at $90M. Or $200M. Or $250M I hope for the team to be well run both on and off the field. That's not the same thing as rooting for the payroll of the 25-man roster to be at of above any specific number. Sometimes, it's impossible to separate the two. Anyone who, for example, was hoping that the Mets would've signed Springer was necessarily rooting for the Mets to exceed the luxury tax, whether they realized it or not.

Frayed Knot Jan 26 2021 02:54 PM Re: Centerfield

Mets "have continued talks in recent days" with JBJ acc to the Puma BoSox, SFG, and the Astros also said to be interested.

A Boy Named Seo Jan 26 2021 03:07 PM Re: Centerfield

Is JBJ just a cheaper, left-handed version of Lorenzo Cain nowadays? I'm thinking I might prefer JBJ to Cain and devote some $$ elsewhere (3B, pen, that asshole Bauer). There should be plenty of offense in the Mets outfield. They just need someone to reliably catch the ball in center.

Edgy MD Jan 26 2021 03:07 PM Re: Centerfield

WAIT!! Jon Bon Jovi is in talks with the Mets?!!

A Boy Named Seo Jan 26 2021 03:18 PM Re: Centerfield

Edgy MD wrote: WAIT!! Jon Bon Jovi is in talks with the Mets?!! No, silly. Jackie Bradley, Jr. He's a runaway from the Red Sox. He comes much cheaper than Springer, whom the Mets seemed to shy away from because they didn't want to be livin on a player. When asked why he didn't want to re-sign with Boston, JBJ said "It's my life". ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Edgy MD Jan 26 2021 03:32 PM Re: Centerfield

Well, then, I hope the Mets get him. Dead OR alive.

A Boy Named Seo Jan 26 2021 04:25 PM Re: Centerfield

BAM.

Centerfield Jan 26 2021 05:33 PM Re: Centerfield

I don't know how cheap he will be. He's looking to cash in this year and wants a multiple year contract.

Frayed Knot Jan 26 2021 05:45 PM Re: Centerfield

And has several teams looking to sign him (or at least contemplating doing so). THAT, more than anything, is what leads to longer deals.

smg58 Jan 27 2021 06:27 AM Re: Centerfield

There are things I like about Bradley, but his lefthandedness might make him a poor fit. I'd keep his agent on my Contacts list for now.

Benjamin Grimm Jan 27 2021 06:30 AM Re: Centerfield

Maybe we can ask him to bat right handed instead. Actually, I think I'd rather have an outfield of Smith, Nimmo, and Conforto, accepting the loss of defense, than making Smith a spare part and losing his bat. There are probably metrics that would say if this is a good or bad idea, but I don't have a handle on all these newer stats. Not that I disbelieve them, I just don't have the motivation to try to understand them.

Fman99 Jan 27 2021 10:41 AM Re: Centerfield

I'm with Ben Grimm on this. I'd rather see Smith play every day and Nimmo flail around in CF than have to keep either Dom or Pete Alonso out of the lineup every day.

LWFS Jan 27 2021 10:47 AM Re: Centerfield

I mean, I like it. Our pitchers might disagree, to a man. As might anyone looking at our bottom-5 outfield defense/plethora of flyball-prone pitchers.

A Boy Named Seo Jan 27 2021 11:07 AM Re: Centerfield

I think JBJ would need a lot more ABs, but Almora or some other Juan Lagares type might be ok for this team, getting a start once a week and playing lots of late-inning CF.

Frayed Knot Jan 27 2021 11:42 AM Re: Centerfield

If JBJ truly has four teams sniffing around him then he's unlikely to have to settle for the part-timer/defensive specialist role I'm envisioning for him as a NYM. On the other hand, he's not a terrible hitter -- .247/.331/.438 (101 OPS+) from 2015 thru 2020 is more than fine for an elite glove at that position -- and mixing four guys into three positions (closer to 3-1/2 really with the occasional DH slot and Dom spelling Pete at 1B) can be worked out, although you do create the issue of trying to platoon four lefty bats.

Edgy MD Jan 27 2021 02:04 PM Re: Centerfield

Whenever this thread pops up, I keep worrying that something happened to Centerfield the forumite.

Willets Point Jan 27 2021 02:47 PM Re: Centerfield

JBJ is a good option for fans who prefer strong centerfield defense over players who give glove a bad name.

Edgy MD Jan 27 2021 02:49 PM Re: Centerfield

It's true. When he runs down a ball, he holds on to what he's got.

MFS62 Jan 27 2021 02:51 PM Re: Centerfield

Edgy MD wrote: It's true. When he runs down a ball, he holds on to what he's got. Always. Later

LWFS Jan 27 2021 07:03 PM Re: Centerfield

I mean, give him a reasonable offer, and you're halfway they-ahh.

Centerfield Jan 27 2021 09:03 PM Re: Centerfield

Edgy MD wrote: Whenever this thread pops up, I keep worrying that something happened to Centerfield the forumite. I'm fine. I was wearing a mask on January 6 so no ones identified me yet. And I know what you're thinking. A mask? What an idiot. They don't work. Lol. Don't worry. It was a Zorro mask.

Centerfield Feb 07 2021 07:05 AM Re: Centerfield

Mets sign Al Mora. I wonder if he's related to Melvin.

Johnny Lunchbucket Feb 07 2021 07:09 AM Re: Centerfield

He's, um... He's not as good as George Springer

Centerfield Feb 07 2021 07:14 AM Re: Centerfield

I don't know that he's even as good as Lagares.

bmfc1 Feb 07 2021 07:15 AM Re: Centerfield

That's Almora. BFD. I'm not sure why they signed him instead of Marisnick. And does this mean the end of the JBJ speculation? https://www.fangraphs.com/players/albert-almora-jr/14109/stats?position=OF https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/a/almoral01.shtml https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Almora

bmfc1 Feb 07 2021 07:15 AM Re: Centerfield

=Centerfield post_id=55619 time=1612707277 user_id=65] I don't know that he's even as good as Lagares.

Agreed. Lagares is with the Angels now.

Johnny Lunchbucket Feb 07 2021 07:19 AM Re: Centerfield

Guillermo Heredia is shitting his pants now

Benjamin Grimm Feb 07 2021 07:57 AM Re: Centerfield

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: Guillermo Heredia is shitting his pants now Breaking news!

Frayed Knot Feb 07 2021 08:10 AM Re: Centerfield

JBJ was/is reportedly looking for a multi year deal. That's a deal-breaker IMO as far as what the Mets are looking for. Almora is your defensive replacement and (maybe) rejuvenated bat off the bench. A better/worse option than Marisnick? .... who knows.

Edgy MD Feb 07 2021 08:33 AM Re: Centerfield

I guess Jackie Bradley was overplaying his hand in the Junior market.

smg58 Feb 07 2021 09:25 AM Re: Centerfield

Almora had a good year in 2017, but his power seemed to vanish in 2018 (under the watch of Chili Davis), then in 2019 his defensive value vanished, and we won't speak of 2020. I'm guessing he's been playing hurt quite a bit, but that doesn't mean that (a) it was all injuries or (b) he's 100% now. On the bright side: I'm guessing that they asked Davis about him, and if he had said "don't waste your time" they would not have wasted their time. He has more upside than Marisnick, at least -- the 2017 bat and the 2018 glove would be a quality player, and he's still only 26.

nymr83 Feb 07 2021 09:27 AM Re: Centerfield

I like Almora as a 4th/5th outfielder. Its a good chance to take and they didn't give up anything

LWFS Feb 07 2021 11:50 AM Re: Centerfield

DOES he have more upside than Marisnick, though? He's three years younger, and was a first-round pick... but at 27 in a couple of months, he's no kid. Marisnick has generally provided value as good or better than AAJ (in the 1.5-2.5 range, with pop), even in Almora's best season, and in half the playing time. I can't believe this didn't cross my mind before now... but why NOT Marisnick? Lack of interest on Jake's part?

batmagadanleadoff Feb 07 2021 12:23 PM Re: Centerfield Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Feb 07 2021 01:40 PM

This guy gets worse every single season. And the player he's most similar to is . . . . . . Lastings Milledge.

Edgy MD Feb 07 2021 12:26 PM Re: Centerfield

I wondered about the indifference to bringing Marizzy back too. He sure hit during the brief time between injuries. Maybe they were frustrated with his health. Maybe they thought he was a Marisdick. Maybe the evaluations that made him a Mets target and asset were the evaluations of Van Wangenen and members of his team that are no longer in house. Player stocks often change during management transitions.

Johnny Lunchbucket Feb 07 2021 12:58 PM Re: Centerfield

No doubt about that. I have Castro atop my guys-who'll-be-traded list

bmfc1 Feb 07 2021 01:30 PM Re: Centerfield

Joel Sherman says that if the NL gets the DH the NYM will still want JBJ: [BLOCKQUOTE]... they have done so much background work on Jackie Bradley Jr. that I will continue to believe that if the designated hitter is adopted by the NL and Bradley remains a free agent at that time, the Mets will at least consider him. In the last week, the Mets had an extended Zoom meeting with Bradley that included team president Sandy Alderson, acting GM Zack Scott, hitting coach Chili Davis and first base/outfield coach Tony Tarasco. Scott, in particular, knows Bradley well from their shared time working with the Red Sox.[/BLOCKQUOTE] https://nypost.com/2021/02/07/mets-could-still-pursue-jackie-bradley-jr-if-nl-gets-dh/

smg58 Mar 04 2021 07:00 AM Re: Centerfield

Bradley goes to Milwaukee for 2 and 24. It's an interesting spot given the presence of Lorenzo Cain, but he wound up doing all right for himself despite waiting till March.

Fman99 Mar 04 2021 07:31 AM Re: Centerfield

I actually think of the John Fogerty song every time I open this thread. But that's just me.

Centerfield Mar 04 2021 08:15 AM Re: Centerfield

=smg58 post_id=57346 time=1614866410 user_id=62] Bradley goes to Milwaukee for 2 and 24. It's an interesting spot given the presence of Lorenzo Cain, but he wound up doing all right for himself despite waiting till March.

Right? Makes no sense. Cain is signed for the next two years at big money.

smg58 Mar 04 2021 11:11 AM Re: Centerfield

One of them will have reduced value playing a corner, to be sure. But a repeat of last year for Bradley, a bounceback year for Cain, and a ball that keeps more flyballs in the yard could still make this a net plus for the Brewers.

smg58 Mar 04 2021 11:13 AM Re: Centerfield

=Fman99 post_id=57348 time=1614868277 user_id=86] I actually think of the John Fogerty song every time I open this thread. But that's just me.

I think of that song every Opening Day. Plus it's a good song to have in your repertoire when your godson asks for a song about baseball.