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Hands-Free Options

LWFS Jan 25 2021 05:23 PM

Now that the prime lefty relief merchandise is off the shelf, what else do we have available for purchase that will help us with nagging late-inning lefty-removal? -- Solid, good old reliable mid-shelf lefty brand, like, say, Justin Wilson: round peg for round hole; familiar, if uncreative, problem-solving -- Surprisingly effective off-label-use righty, a la Trevor Rosenthal, with a surprising platoon tilt : interesting, if potentially-more-expensive option (potential bonus: extra Trevor) -- Discount rack/"woke" brand (and cheap bounce-back candidate?) Sean Doolittle: likely cheap, veddddddddy interesting, possibly done -- Something else you're considering putting in the cart?

smg58 Jan 25 2021 05:37 PM Re: Hands-Free Options

I got no gripe with Wilson. Doolittle is too much of a lottery ticket at this point.

LWFS Jan 25 2021 05:45 PM Re: Hands-Free Options

=smg58 post_id=54750 time=1611621446 user_id=62] I got no gripe with Wilson. Doolittle is too much of a lottery ticket at this point.

Buuuuuut if he came with a lottery ticket price (say, minor-league with 7-figure performance bonus)?

Centerfield Jan 25 2021 06:57 PM Re: Hands-Free Options

Now that the prime lefty relief merchandise is off the shelf, what else do we have available for purchase that will help us with nagging late-inning lefty-removal? -- Solid, good old reliable mid-shelf lefty brand, like, say, Justin Wilson: round peg for round hole; familiar, if uncreative, problem-solving -- Surprisingly effective off-label-use righty, a la Trevor Rosenthal, with a surprising platoon tilt : interesting, if potentially-more-expensive option (potential bonus: extra Trevor) -- Discount rack/"woke" brand (and cheap bounce-back candidate?) Sean Doolittle: likely cheap, veddddddddy interesting, possibly done -- Something else you're considering putting in the cart? Hi. I'm Oliver Perez. And I demand to be in the cart.

LWFS Jan 25 2021 07:13 PM Re: Hands-Free Options

Now that the prime lefty relief merchandise is off the shelf, what else do we have available for purchase that will help us with nagging late-inning lefty-removal? -- Solid, good old reliable mid-shelf lefty brand, like, say, Justin Wilson: round peg for round hole; familiar, if uncreative, problem-solving -- Surprisingly effective off-label-use righty, a la Trevor Rosenthal, with a surprising platoon tilt : interesting, if potentially-more-expensive option (potential bonus: extra Trevor) -- Discount rack/"woke" brand (and cheap bounce-back candidate?) Sean Doolittle: likely cheap, veddddddddy interesting, possibly done -- Something else you're considering putting in the cart? Hi. I'm Oliver Perez. And I demand to be in the cart. LEAVE THE STORE PLEASE, YOU'RE DRUNK

Edgy MD Jan 25 2021 07:24 PM Re: Hands-Free Options

It's interesting in that the team has a history of solving lefty relief shortfalls by not going big. Wilson was grabbed as a free agent in late January. Blevins was acquired for a spare part at the very end of spring training. Josh Edgy was a 30th-round draft choice. I'm pretty sure Scott Rice was somebody Sandy met at a flea market. Even Feliciano kept bouncing back to them after being cut loose. I wouldn't say it's smarter to let the game come to you, but it's certainly worked for them. Lefty relievers are weirdos and while every team wants one, they usually don't want too many, and so the market for them never quite closes. Can you think of the last time the Mets brought in a lefty relief specialist (non-closer) for two or more years? It seems like a priority right now — it's the closest thing to what I'd call a "hole" — but I'm not sure what Sandy's priority is. I've read that Justin Wilson was aiming to retire and read elsewhere that the team still interested in him. If I had to guess, I imagine they offer him a year plus an option. They may have to shed one or two other guyz along the way.

Johnny Lunchbucket Jan 25 2021 07:40 PM Re: Hands-Free Options

ROBERT CARSON OR GET OUT OF MY STORE

Edgy MD Jan 25 2021 07:56 PM Re: Hands-Free Options

Carson just turned 32 two days ago. Still pitching (as of 2019) but hasn't been in affiliated ball since 2014. Pour me a cup of Carson.

batmagadanleadoff Jan 25 2021 08:08 PM Re: Hands-Free Options

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bmfc1 Jan 25 2021 08:17 PM Re: Hands-Free Options

Doolittle is a righteous dude but I don't see a role for him in Flushing. I'm Just fine with Wilson.

DocTee Jan 26 2021 06:00 AM Re: Hands-Free Options

Steven Matz, southpaw savior.

Fman99 Jan 26 2021 06:45 AM Re: Hands-Free Options

Trevor Rosenthal needs a custom jersey with an opening between the numbers -- so that the giant fork sticking out of his back doesn't tear the fabric.

Johnny Lunchbucket Jan 26 2021 08:53 AM Re: Hands-Free Options

I figure of the options above Rosenthal or Wilson.

Lefty Specialist Jan 26 2021 11:36 AM Re: Hands-Free Options

I'm still giggling at the thread title. I'm fine with Wilson; he's been solid.

LWFS Jan 26 2021 12:15 PM Re: Hands-Free Options

=Fman99 post_id=54790 time=1611668709 user_id=86] Trevor Rosenthal needs a custom jersey with an opening between the numbers -- so that the giant fork sticking out of his back doesn't tear the fabric.

Did well enough last year-- fork notwithstanding-- to be traded FOR by the contending Padres during the stretch run. Throwing hard and with snap and all!



Given all this Bauer noise today, part of me feels like we need a little more good-karma Doolittle to balance any Twitteration from Trevor. Part of me also REALLY wants to see what happens when Bauer and Doolittle-- and Stroman and Smith and possibly Blevins-- share a locker room. I'm such a messy bitch!

Centerfield Jan 26 2021 12:18 PM Re: Hands-Free Options

Omg. Poor Nimmo in that situation.

LWFS Jan 26 2021 12:30 PM Re: Hands-Free Options

=Centerfield post_id=54836 time=1611688719 user_id=65] Omg. Poor Nimmo in that situation.

Right? Tense, rictus-like smile all year, grinding his teeth down to the gum, just constantly trying to change the subject to cookies.

smg58 Jan 26 2021 12:44 PM Re: Hands-Free Options

=LWFS post_id=54758 time=1611621911 user_id=84] =smg58 post_id=54750 time=1611621446 user_id=62] I got no gripe with Wilson. Doolittle is too much of a lottery ticket at this point.

Buuuuuut if he came with a lottery ticket price (say, minor-league with 7-figure performance bonus)?


I'd still get a safer option first. But if he's got zero takers, I'd give him a camp invite.

smg58 Jan 26 2021 12:46 PM Re: Hands-Free Options

=Centerfield post_id=54765 time=1611626228 user_id=65] Hi. I'm Oliver Perez. And I demand to be in the cart.

Doesn't he owe the Mets money? Like, $36M or so?

Johnny Lunchbucket Jan 26 2021 12:51 PM Re: Hands-Free Options

I'm into Ollie

A Boy Named Seo Jan 26 2021 01:12 PM Re: Hands-Free Options

=LWFS post_id=54839 time=1611689415 user_id=84] =Centerfield post_id=54836 time=1611688719 user_id=65] Omg. Poor Nimmo in that situation.

Right? Tense, rictus-like smile all year, grinding his teeth down to the gum, just constantly trying to change the subject to cookies.


Coming soon to Netflix... PERFECT STRANGLERS! Starring Brandon Nimmo as the goofy, good-hearted scamp who tries desperately to keep his roommates Sean Gilmartin and Sean Doolittle from murdering one another.

LWFS Jan 26 2021 05:51 PM Re: Hands-Free Options

I'm kinda into Ollie, too. Also... Gilmartin. #messybitch

Edgy MD Jan 26 2021 07:57 PM Re: Hands-Free Options

Great, we're talking Trevor Bauer, Josh Hader, and Sean Gilmartin all at once. Is Ambiorix Burgos available?

smg58 Jan 27 2021 06:20 AM Re: Hands-Free Options

Well if we get Gilmartin, maybe we can hire his wife to give scouting reports to our opponents.

LWFS Jan 27 2021 12:56 PM Re: Hands-Free Options

Loup: there it is?

Johnny Lunchbucket Jan 27 2021 01:09 PM Re: Hands-Free Options

I suck at puns compared to you guys and I think I'm good at it

Fman99 Jan 27 2021 01:36 PM Re: Hands-Free Options

Our talents have thrown you for a Loup, is what you're saying.

Centerfield Jan 27 2021 02:09 PM Re: Hands-Free Options

Loup: there it is? Tell me you were influenced, even a little, by the new Tag Team commercial?

Centerfield Jan 27 2021 02:10 PM Re: Hands-Free Options

I have never heard of this guy before. But from what I'm reading, seems like he's good against lefties, not so good against righties.

A Boy Named Seo Jan 27 2021 02:38 PM Re: Hands-Free Options

Has anyone seen how much this deal is for?

bmfc1 Jan 27 2021 02:43 PM Re: Hands-Free Options

Our talents have thrown you for a Loup, is what you're saying. Loup will be throw-ing for the Mets. From Wiki, we learn that he likes hunting and fishing and is "quiet and reserved": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Loup https://www.fangraphs.com/players/aaron-loup/10343/stats?position=P https://www.mlb.com/news/blue-jays-reliever-aaron-loup-celebrates-first-mothers-day-as-a-father/c-74640504 The main picture is from 2011, not 1961: https://patch.com/florida/dunedin/meet-the-baseball-wives-of-dunedin

Johnny Lunchbucket Jan 27 2021 02:44 PM Re: Hands-Free Options

Loup: there it is? Tell me you were influenced, even a little, by the new Tag Team commercial? That is a great commercial! I'm not sure if it makes me wanna buy insurance but I LOL at that one

smg58 Jan 27 2021 03:06 PM Re: Hands-Free Options

Loup's best years were his first three, when he was pitching to contact and not trying to pump up his K rate. Then it looks like somebody gave him bad advice. The Rays seemed to get him back towards his earlier approach, although his .219 BABIP last season was not sustainable. Still, he's at least serviceable, and could be above average for that role. Looks like a pretty good pick-up.

LWFS Jan 28 2021 02:06 PM Re: Hands-Free Options

I still like Rosenthal as an option. So does MLB.com's Mike Petriello, who argues convincingly that Rosenthal's bounce back is no mirage. [BLOCKQUOTE]In Rosenthal's case, we'd say the 2020 performance means a lot. We'd seen him be great in the past. The velocity remains excellent. The ability to throw strikes looks much improved. There's a history of pitchers needing a minute coming off of Tommy John surgery. [/BLOCKQUOTE] Super-bullpen(Rosenthal inclusive)-plus-JBJ-plus-rotation-lotto-tix may be a better use of the $32M between this team and the luxury tax than certain Twitter shit-stirrers.

Frayed Knot Jan 28 2021 02:21 PM Re: Hands-Free Options

I don't know what to make of Rosenthal - he was good, though a bit short of great (WHIP = 1.25) during his first three full seasons (2013-15) - then his WHIP ballooned to 1.91 in 2016 as his H/9 and BB/9 skyrocketed - he seemed to be back to his old self in 2017 before missing all of 2018 to TJ surgery - he was beyond awful coming back, 26 BB in 15 IP ... bad with Detroit, worse in Washington - and then, as mentioned, bounced back in the partial 2020 campaign: 1.90 ERA and a 0.845 WHIP, essentially the best year of his career although encompassing just 24 IP split between KCR & SDP And he still won't turn 31 until the end of May

Edgy MD Jan 28 2021 02:37 PM Re: Hands-Free Options

Relief can be that way. You do well, you get overused, you do poorly, your work thins out ... wash, rinse, repeat. Except in the small sample sizes of relievers' seasons, those effects get amplified.

A Boy Named Seo Jan 28 2021 02:51 PM Re: Hands-Free Options

Loup gets "around $3M" to play for the Mets this year, per Martino. On the subject of Rosenthal, Fangraphs predicts 2 years/$16M for him. I can't decide if I think that's a good deal or what.