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In Vaccine Thread 2021

Fman99 Jan 16 2021 05:37 AM

Fwife is queued up for shot #1 on Wednesday, her job as day care director puts her in group 1B. Some of her employees are in that same group but waited to make appointments and now they're waiting until March for their jab. My rheumatologist told me that the medication I take for my psoriatic arthritis puts me in group 1C, which could potentially get me a shot earlier than some of my friends. My son turns 16 in March and so he'll get on a list too. Fgirl will wait as they've not cleared any vaccinations or doses yet for kids her age (13). Hopefully all y'all who need it most (and aren't fearful of it) are on short lists.

MFS62 Jan 16 2021 09:30 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Got an email from my boss asking if I'm planning to get the vaccine. I told him yes, because I want to live. I hope the company will make it mandatory. Later

ashie62 Jan 16 2021 09:56 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

I am 1B. Don't believe I will see the vaccine any time soon.

Benjamin Grimm Jan 17 2021 06:43 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

I'm in 1C because of my BMI, which is just over 31. My girlfriend, who has MS and is immunocompromised, is not in Phase 1 at all, which is ridiculous. (My county is only including people whose immune systems are compromised due to solid organ transplants.) I would gladly give her my slot but I don't think there's a way to do that. (And she probably wouldn't take it anyway. My slot that is; she would take the vaccine.) The e-mail I got after I registered for the vaccine said that I would be contacted when a dose is available for me, but it might be a month or more. (If it is only a month I'll be very pleased.) I've registered for an online town hall to be held on Monday where I'll try to state a case to open up the definition of immunocompromised. I hope, at least, that Phase 2 will eventually be subdivided like Phase 1 was, and that this more vulnerable group will be in Phase 2A. I really didn't expect to be in the first phase at all. I don't think I should be, but if a chance to get the vaccine comes along, I'm not going to turn it down.

Frayed Knot Jan 17 2021 04:30 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Did you have to provide some sort of documentation of your BMI or are they just taking your word for it? Because while being heavier than ideal can be A factor in surviving Covid, if BMI is being prioritized over several other pre-existing conditions (which I agree is an odd choice) it would benefit folks to report higher BMIs in order to move themselves up in the pecking order.

Benjamin Grimm Jan 17 2021 04:59 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

I've asked that question, do I need to present any documentation of my BMI. I haven't received an answer yet.

Frayed Knot Jan 17 2021 06:24 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Because if no proof is needed then I'm going to tell them that my BMI is 174 The weird part is that I just heard a report the other day saying that relying on the BMI index was something health professionals were starting to phase out. It always seemed a bit odd to me that when BMI was first introduced (some time in the '90s) we were told that we should pay attention to that rather than to the old fashioned height and weight charts ... except that BMI was based on height and weight figures so I never really saw how it was an improvement in the first place. It was more just a different way of stating the same thing and it still has no way to account for different body types.

Fman99 Jan 21 2021 04:40 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Aside from a sore arm Fwife survived vaccine dose #1 with a minimum of discomfort and inconvenience. The entire process was about 30 minutes in duration.

duan Jan 21 2021 12:40 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

=Fman99 post_id=54537 time=1611229256 user_id=86] Aside from a sore arm Fwife survived vaccine dose #1 with a minimum of discomfort and inconvenience. The entire process was about 30 minutes in duration.

Great stuff. I for one will take whatever one they can give me as soon as they can get it to me!

kcmets Jan 21 2021 12:52 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

My doctors office has rescheduled my regular appointments at least three times asking me that if I feel ok please be patient but they're overwhelmed. Patient! Hah! I don't know if I'll be eligible for vaccination in May, but that's currently my next visit.

Benjamin Grimm Jan 21 2021 01:13 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

I'm now in the Phase 1A, not because my condition has changed but because the definition of 1A has widened. My son and my girlfriend are also in 1A. My daughter is not, but she recovered from an infection in November so she's likely immune for four or five or eight or more months. (My hunch says eight or more, but what do I know?) Now that I'm in 1A I could, theoretically, have my number come up any week now. But it could just as easily be several months. It really depends on how quickly they're able to manufacture and distribute enough doses.

kcmets Jan 22 2021 09:46 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

So, New York State has run out of vaccine?

ashie62 Jan 22 2021 10:21 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Registration and medical conditions, at least in NJ are on the honor system. I thought I might need to have my RX history in some way.

kcmets Jan 22 2021 11:51 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

So, New York State has run out of vaccine? NYS Covid Vaccine Inventory Exhausted

Fman99 Feb 11 2021 10:50 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Wife got shot #2 yesterday. Sore arm but otherwise off to work today as usual. She's pretty happy to have gotten that second booster, despite knowing that there's a 2-3 week turnaround before she reaches her fullest immunity. Better yet, I am in the next group to be eligible in NY, as I take autoimmune suppressing medication for my psoriatic arthritis. My rheumatologist's letter is in the mail and I can start trying to get an appointment on Sunday.

whippoorwill Feb 12 2021 02:44 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

My mom(age 91 in a few weeks) got her first shot at the supermarket! They have a link in place to make appointments but every time I would look for her, it'd be filled. So we figured maybe she could just stop and ask them next time we were in shopping and she got lucky; someone had just canceled! I got to wondering where on earth she was and she was back in the pharmacy. She had on three layers of clothes cos it was so cold so that was a hitch lol Next shot scheduled for March 5; I hope they have them. I'm not worried about myself...plus in PA you have to be 65 and I'm not so I'll be waiting a while

Fman99 Feb 14 2021 07:47 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Appointment #1 booked for three weeks from today. Pretty happy about this.

RealityChuck Feb 14 2021 08:08 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

I'm eligible due to my age and the college arranged for vaccinations for their employees. I had my first shot two weeks ago and am scheduled for my second on the 27th. They had enough doses so my wife could get hers, too. I suspect it's because the college has a number of Franciscan friars who are getting on in years. They probably arranged it for them in mind, but realized that they had to use up doses, so they opened it up, first to employees and then to their spouses.

Fman99 Feb 18 2021 10:25 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Was able to get one of the 500 vaccination slots my county opens up each Tuesday (they lasted all of 8 minutes) and got Moderna shot #1 yesterday. Will get shot #2 on St. Paddy's day and should be up to fully immunized resistance by the end of March. I'm beyond happy about this. Aside from some soreness in my upper arm where I got the jab, no side effects of note.

Willets Point Feb 18 2021 10:37 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

My mother got shot #2 yesterday. My in-laws also have received both doses. It's such a weight of my shoulders that they've gotten this protection.

metsmarathon Feb 18 2021 11:39 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

i am apparently doing a super-shit job of getting vaccination appintments. my 82-year old mom is still without her first. on her behalf, i'm signed up for all the relevant appointment alert systems that appear to apply, but don't get any notifications.

Benjamin Grimm Feb 27 2021 09:45 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

As I mentioned in the Prediction thread, I have an appointment for March 2. It will be the Pfizer vaccine, with a second dose three weeks later. I'll be getting it at a vaccination clinic run by the county that I live in.

Benjamin Grimm Mar 02 2021 03:34 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Vaccinated! Second dose, it turns out, will be four weeks later. Or at least that's the current understanding. I'll get an e-mail in about a week that will allow me to schedule the second dose. The vaccinations were taking place in the community college gym, and they asked us to sit in the bleachers (in a socially distant manner, natch) for fifteen minutes after we receive the shot, just to make sure we're feeling okay before we drive home. I just felt some warmth at the injection site, but no adverse reaction to speak of. I've heard that the effects of the second dose are likely to be worse.

Lefty Specialist Mar 02 2021 03:45 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Keith says he's getting his first shot on Friday, per today's broadcast.

Lefty Specialist Mar 02 2021 03:46 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

And Joe Biden says that anybody who wants a shot will be able to get one by the end of May. Here's hoping.

MFS62 Mar 02 2021 03:47 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Vaccinated! Second dose, it turns out, will be four weeks later. Or at least that's the current understanding. I'll get an e-mail in about a week that will allow me to schedule the second dose. Some states allow you to register for the second when you schedule the first. Some states schedule the second one for you when you get the first shot. But that would be too logical. And, yes, the reaction to the second one is often (but not much) worse. Later

Chad ochoseis Mar 02 2021 04:50 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

i am apparently doing a super-shit job of getting vaccination appintments. my 82-year old mom is still without her first. on her behalf, i'm signed up for all the relevant appointment alert systems that appear to apply, but don't get any notifications. A friend of mine in Morris Plains just posted "Who needs vaccines?" on facebook. She might have a way in. I just texted her.

metsmarathon Mar 02 2021 05:35 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

i was able this past weekend to get her an appointment at rite aid, using their website. she gets her first poke tomorrow. today i got a reminder from nj's vaccine system that i'm still on the list. which, well, isn't nearly helpful enough.

Lefty Specialist Mar 02 2021 05:45 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Things seem to be getting a little easier. We'd been hitting refresh for a friend's 80+year-old mother and she finally got one this week. NJ is opening vaccines to teachers on 3/15.

Willets Point Mar 02 2021 06:21 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Dolly Parton is a national treasure. [YOUTUBE]BjfT6H6QUIA[/YOUTUBE]

Lefty Specialist Mar 03 2021 05:09 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

So if Biden pulls this off, we'll have saved summer and all kids will be back in school come September. That will be enormous. There'll still be deaths from COVID, but there won't be any excuses- those who don't get vaccinated will only have themselves to blame.

Willets Point Mar 03 2021 08:25 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Except that a lot of people who aren't white, middle-class, college-educated professionals don't have access to basic healthcare much less vaccines. But they probably live in "red states," so fuck them, right?

Fman99 Mar 03 2021 08:56 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Willets Point wrote: Dolly Parton is a national treasure. [YOUTUBE]BjfT6H6QUIA[/YOUTUBE] No, she's a scary plastic cyborg. But, you know, tomato, to-mah-to I guess.

Lefty Specialist Mar 05 2021 05:04 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

He finally got stabbed back. O.J. Simpson @TheRealOJ32 Got my 2nd shot. Go get yours.

TransMonk Mar 05 2021 03:36 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

My mom and stepdad got dose #2 today.

Benjamin Grimm Mar 08 2021 07:41 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

They're vaccinating the apes at the San Diego Zoo. I know that there aren't many apes at the Zoo, and that it's important to protect the apes, but this sends a terrible message while there are still humans who are desperately trying to get vaccinated. Why don't they just vaccinate the humans who come into close contact with the apes? There can't be that many of them. And if the apes decide to go to a supermarket or a restaurant, make sure that they wear masks.

Double Switch Mar 08 2021 11:35 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

My first shot is scheduled for tomorrow afternoon, months ahead of what I had presumed to be realistic. I don't expect to stand behind any apes as I wait my turn.

cal sharpie Mar 08 2021 12:01 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

I had my first shot on Saturday. NYU texted me saying "we got 'em if you want one." Took me in right away. My arm hurts but I'll get over it.

Chad ochoseis Mar 09 2021 12:47 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Ohio lowers its age cutoff to 50 on Thursday and just out of the blue, I figured I'd call my doctor's office and see if maybe I'd be able to get an appointment for June or something that I could use as a safety net in case constantly refreshing CVS's appointment website didn't work out. Turns out they had an opening Friday at 11:20.

whippoorwill Mar 09 2021 02:14 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Way to go! My daughters a teacher and her school district arranged for the entire staff to get their shots...awesome!

whippoorwill Mar 09 2021 02:15 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

=TransMonk post_id=57454 time=1614983819 user_id=71] My mom and stepdad got dose #2 today.

How did they make out?

Mom got her second on Thursday and had some intense discomfort Friday but it was short lived

kcmets Mar 09 2021 03:04 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Saw Czar Cuomo decreed (I thought his powers had been stripped) that everyone 60+ now vaccine eligible statewide.

TransMonk Mar 09 2021 04:04 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

=whippoorwill post_id=57650 time=1615324534 user_id=79]How did they make out? Mom got her second on Thursday and had some intense discomfort Friday but it was short lived

Neither had any side effects other than mild fatigue for about 24 hours. They were expecting worse and were pleasantly surprised.

whippoorwill Mar 09 2021 05:26 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Great!

Double Switch Mar 09 2021 05:29 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

I've been Pfizered! Vax went smoothly, lots of folks showed up, scheduled to flow evenly, have my second shot scheduled for 3/30. I had voted for September 2021 in the poll and considered that conservative. Turns out when you get a genuine leader and people who understand what they're doing and how logistics work, what would usually be just SOP becomes a miracle. So far, no side effects but it's been only a few hours.

Lefty Specialist Mar 10 2021 07:40 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

We have a friend who's a lawyer for pharmacies. He's in touch with pharmacies who may have extra doses at the end of a day, and we have to be ready to drop everything and drive to a pharmacy somewhere in NJ on a moment's notice if they have extra vaccine after all appointments have been satisfied. It's like flying standby with your health.

Willets Point Mar 10 2021 07:45 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

And people who don't have a friend who's a lawyer for pharmacies and don't get vaccinated and die of COVID don't have any excuses - "those who don't get vaccinated will only have themselves to blame."

Benjamin Grimm Mar 10 2021 07:50 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Well, that's certainly not true yet, but maybe it will be in a few months, if the current projections turn out to be accurate.

Willets Point Mar 10 2021 07:57 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Just quoting LS upthread when he made his racist/classist proclamation that people don't get the vaccine deserve to die despite the fact that the distribution of the vaccine is extremely inequitable. Now he's bragging about using his privileged connections to jump the line on a vaccination that poor people of color and rural people aren't going to get a chance for months, if ever. But it's there fault for not being a white, college-educated, professional, suburban dude, right?

Benjamin Grimm Mar 10 2021 08:10 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

He did say "come September" and "if Biden pulls this off". It doesn't look like he was talking about the present.

kcmets Mar 10 2021 08:36 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Willets Point wrote: And people who don't have a friend who's a lawyer for pharmacies and don't get vaccinated and die of COVID don't have any excuses - "those who don't get vaccinated will only have themselves to blame." Just my two cents, I think 'willfully' not getting vaccinated was where he was going.

MFS62 Mar 10 2021 09:12 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Willets Point wrote: And people who don't have a friend who's a lawyer for pharmacies and don't get vaccinated and die of COVID don't have any excuses - "those who don't get vaccinated will only have themselves to blame." Just my two cents, I think 'willfully' not getting vaccinated was where he was going. That's how I read it, too. Later

metsmarathon Mar 10 2021 10:18 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

yeah, i'm not happy about how priviledge plays into getting the vaccine. it should not be true that if you have the means and time to jump on a computer and/or facebook group, or have people who agree to do so for you, that you can get the vaccine sooner, even if 'sooner' is within your vaccination cohort. every dose of vaccine offered to the public in each state should have been doled out through the states' distribution system, and directed from there. sign up for the state, and get notices of how the vaccine is getting rolled out. appointments at each distribution partner should have been arranged through the state portal. CVS has a thousand doses coming in - the state vaccine server automatically assigns people to it, and contacts them to confirm, as well as informing the next group that they are potentially waitlisted. and so on and so on. give people the option to state their availability, locality, and geographical footprint to aid in the scheduling. At this point, by the time the state vaccine distribution system gets around to noticing that my 82-year old mother is on their damned list, i'm expecting the notice to read something like "by this time you should already have been vaccinated through other means. if not, why the hell did you think we would do it for you, even though we said we would. sucker. you're either poor or under-privileged or a technical luddite. either way, maybe we don't want you to survive this. please solve the following captcha so that you can be given a link that you must manually type into your browser - internet explorer version 4.2 or below, please - to ensure that you are put on our updated waiting list to receive a .pdf file that shows where you might be able to get the vaccine in the future. thanks, and good luck." this is fucking ridiculous. networking - either fucking definition - should not be a prerequisite for getting a vaccine. especially to the elderly and poor and disadvantaged who need it most. luckily my mom has used me to her own advantage, and i was able to get her her own appointments outside the system. and how dare any state open up lower categories for vaccinations while they're still sitting on people in higher categories waiting for their first.

Fman99 Mar 10 2021 10:27 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Maybe New Jersey just sucks ass? I've been there many times and generally that's been my experience.

metsmarathon Mar 10 2021 11:21 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

it's certainly possible. do other states do it better? i mean rolling out and coordinating vaccinations so that those in most need are better able to get them, without needing to pull strings and favors?

Lefty Specialist Mar 10 2021 12:29 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Benjamin Grimm wrote: He did say "come September" and "if Biden pulls this off". It doesn't look like he was talking about the present. Hm. I was talking about willfully ignorant people who would refuse to get the vaccine after there's ample supply to vaccinate everyone, rich, poor, white, black or whatever. The highest vaccine-hesitancy group right now is white Republicans. As for using connections to get a vaccine, it's not normally anyone's business, but I have a wife who has an auto-immune disease (Google 'Sjogren's'), and we've been hitting 'refresh' for quite a while now. Pharmacies can't always store the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines because of the refrigeration requirements. They sometimes wander through the store at the end of the day asking random people if they want to get vaccinated. I'd like her to be one of those people, so yeah, I'm using every tool in the toolbox and there's no guarantee it'll work, just like not everybody flying standby gets on the plane. She's not cutting the line as she's eligible right now. If that makes me a college-educated suburban monster, I'll wear it. I was flip about it and yes, not everybody has the privilege I have. Mea culpa.

Fman99 Mar 10 2021 12:38 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

=Fman99 post_id=57689 time=1615397239 user_id=86] Maybe New Jersey just sucks ass? I've been there many times and generally that's been my experience.

I personally don't know anyone in New York state who hasn't been able to at least get an appointment if they're of a certain age or have a medical requirement, including myself. I do happen to live close to one of the major inoculation centers (the NYS Fairgrounds, which are now set up even for overnight spots), but all of my friends' elderly relatives have gotten vaccinated, all of my wife's staff at the day care center, and all of my friends who work in health care. Other folks like myself, who have underlying conditions, are all also at least scheduled at this point.



Maybe there are people in other parts of the state struggling to get on the books but I've not been exposed to that. We're mostly waiting now for the general population to get the OK to sign up. Fboy turns 16 in two weeks and at that point can be at least medically cleared to receive the Pfizer vax.

Benjamin Grimm Mar 10 2021 12:47 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

In Pennsylvania it has not been very efficient. My parents, both in their 80s, were able to get their first dose as early as January 31. They don't live in the same county that I do. I registered with my county on January 13, the day after the registration opened, and on February 26 got an e-mail saying that it was my turn to make an appointment, which I promptly did, for March 2. My girlfriend, who is also eligible because of a medical condition, didn't register until January 15. That two-day delay will probably result in her waiting an additional three or four weeks to get her appointment. My son, also eligible because of a medical condition, dragged his feet until January 22. That will delay his appointment even further. My girlfriend's mother, who registered on January 12, got her vaccine at the same time and place as I did. My daughter, my sisters, and my sister's kids are not in the priority group at all and I have no idea when they'll get their turn. I think (and hope) that the logjam will loosen up soon.

kcmets Mar 11 2021 05:43 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

KB has a vaccine slot appointment early Sunday afternoon. They reached out to her, so I guess things are starting to flow.

Ceetar Mar 12 2021 12:01 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

#TeamPfizer over here. Popped over to the Meadowlands last night. Next shot is 3/27. Technically makes me basically set for Opening Day (which I'm almost definitely not attending, but still)

Frayed Knot Mar 12 2021 01:28 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Good news: I've got my appointment on Monday 3/15 Bad news: I heard it's a good idea to beware the ides of March So if I stop posting on Tuesday ...

Willets Point Mar 12 2021 01:46 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Hopefully you will be stabbed just once on March 15.

Benjamin Grimm Mar 12 2021 01:50 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Willets Point wrote: Hopefully you will be stabbed just once on March 15. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/50/Facebook_Thumb_icon.svg/330px-Facebook_Thumb_icon.svg.png>

Marshmallowmilkshake Mar 12 2021 09:14 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Getting my first shot on Monday!

Frayed Knot Mar 15 2021 09:04 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Mar 15 2021 09:24 AM

I'VE BEEN SHOT!!!! Some guy named Moderna is being sought as a "person of interest" in the case.

Fman99 Mar 15 2021 09:08 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

My second shot is the day after tomorrow, putting me on track to be as immune as a guy could be just in time for April and the start of baseball season. I'm hoping to not have too much of a reaction to this booster.

Marshmallowmilkshake Mar 15 2021 08:07 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Got my first one today, from the friends at Pfizer. I confess it was pretty emotional. I can see my parents again after a year and a half. I had tickets for a flight to see them last March. They got their shots this month, and now I can head down there in May.

Benjamin Grimm Mar 17 2021 11:30 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

=Marshmallowmilkshake post_id=58019 time=1615860467 user_id=119] I confess it was pretty emotional.

It's a great feeling, isn't it?



I got a call from my girlfriend about an hour ago. She heard from the county today and her first dose of Pfizer is scheduled for one week from today. I'm every bit as happy right now as I was when I got my e-mail from the county.



The people from the government are here to help. Shit yeah!

Fman99 Mar 17 2021 02:15 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Shot #2 done! No worse for wear, just yet. Two weeks and I'm fully primed for activity in the world. Beyond happy.

Benjamin Grimm Mar 17 2021 02:26 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Congratulations!

Fman99 Mar 18 2021 04:39 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Congratulations! Thanks! Aside from feeling like I have a "Game of Thrones" arrow sticking out of my arm in the injection spot, I feel pretty good today.

MFS62 Mar 18 2021 08:02 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Congratulations! Thanks! Aside from feeling like I have a "Game of Thrones" arrow sticking out of my arm in the injection spot, I feel pretty good today. Many people have said the reaction to the second shot is worse than the first. Later

Fman99 Mar 19 2021 10:04 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

I can tell you that it certainly hurt my arm more than the first shot did. Still no other noticeable effects, aside from a bit of a cough in my chest.

LWFS Mar 19 2021 01:56 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

=Fman99 post_id=57699 time=1615405100 user_id=86] =Fman99 post_id=57689 time=1615397239 user_id=86] Maybe New Jersey just sucks ass? I've been there many times and generally that's been my experience.

I personally don't know anyone in New York state who hasn't been able to at least get an appointment if they're of a certain age or have a medical requirement, including myself. I do happen to live close to one of the major inoculation centers (the NYS Fairgrounds, which are now set up even for overnight spots), but all of my friends' elderly relatives have gotten vaccinated, all of my wife's staff at the day care center, and all of my friends who work in health care. Other folks like myself, who have underlying conditions, are all also at least scheduled at this point.



Maybe there are people in other parts of the state struggling to get on the books but I've not been exposed to that.

Even with increased sites and supply... it's tricky finding shots in the city.



I'd bet a kidney that NYC has almost certainly not gotten its proper, proportionate share of vaccine supply.

seawolf17 Mar 19 2021 03:17 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

I've seen lots of concerns from LI friends and family too, but as fman notes, it seems like appointments have been plentiful up here. Came back from the Cuse this morning after getting #2 myself.

kcmets Mar 19 2021 04:54 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

I'm glad people are getting shots. KB got her first Sunday with no side effects. Where we live i wont be getting one any time soon unless Czar Cuomo goes to 55+ instead of 60.

ashie62 Mar 19 2021 08:52 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Got my first Pfizer dose today, yeah!

Fman99 Mar 19 2021 09:16 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

=seawolf17 post_id=58173 time=1616188630 user_id=91] I've seen lots of concerns from LI friends and family too, but as fman notes, it seems like appointments have been plentiful up here. Came back from the Cuse this morning after getting #2 myself.

Oh thanks for stopping by to visit your old pal

seawolf17 Mar 20 2021 06:12 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

=Fman99 post_id=58200 time=1616210181 user_id=86] =seawolf17 post_id=58173 time=1616188630 user_id=91] I've seen lots of concerns from LI friends and family too, but as fman notes, it seems like appointments have been plentiful up here. Came back from the Cuse this morning after getting #2 myself.

Oh thanks for stopping by to visit your old pal


We gotta get to a SMets game for reals this year.

kcmets Mar 20 2021 09:50 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

A forum game outing in The'cuse would be awesome. Hell, we have fam in Liverpool so wouldn't even have to spring for a hotel stay*. * (my wife and I, not everyone reading this...)

Fman99 Mar 20 2021 04:10 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

It's be awesome to have a CPF night. This team historically under draws so even at 20-25% capacity it'd work I think.

seawolf17 Mar 21 2021 04:09 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

I'll reach out to them and see if they're doing group tickets this year, although my gut tells me probably not.

Ceetar Mar 21 2021 07:02 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

they actually might jump on it. To them, you booking as a 'group' implies you're all 'together' and they can pod you together. Bigger groups means they don't have to isolate/pod 2 people.

Fman99 Mar 21 2021 02:49 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Find out also how much it'd cost to rent out a luxury box for a game. That might be fun too.

MFS62 Mar 22 2021 09:39 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

And get to your local Krispy Kreme for a free donut. Just show your COVID-19 vaccination card. https://www.yahoo.com/news/free-krispy-kreme-doughnut-every-142751435.html Starting Monday, anyone who's received a COVID-19 vaccine can get a free glazed doughnut at Krispy Kreme stores, the company said in a news release. All you have to do is show your COVID-19 vaccination card at any U.S. Krispy Kreme location. Later

Ceetar Mar 22 2021 09:51 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

And eating enough Krispy Kreme makes you eligible for the vaccine! So that's a good reward system. There's one that's basically on my way back from the Meadowlands after I get my second shot. (I stopped at Bolero Snort brewery last time)

MFS62 Mar 22 2021 10:22 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

And eating enough Krispy Kreme makes you eligible for the vaccine! So that's a good reward system. There's one that's basically on my way back from the Meadowlands after I get my second shot. (I stopped at Bolero Snort brewery last time) I checked, and the only one in Connecticut is at the Mohegan Sun Casino, so that "free" donut could end up costing a LOT. Later

Frayed Knot Mar 22 2021 01:08 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

NYS dropping the vaccine age to 50 starting on Tuesday acc. to Gov Cuomo as he attempts to [CROSSOUT]change the topic of conversation about himself[/CROSSOUT] keep more people safe from the disease.

G-Fafif Mar 22 2021 01:13 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

I believe that's called Cuomorbidities.

batmagadanleadoff Mar 22 2021 01:45 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Great. That'll be even more people downstate who are eligible for vaccines that aren't actually available. He might as well announce that beginning tomorrow, everyone who wants a vaccine is now eligible to get one. And a free house, too. It's medical vaporware. At least we're hardly talking about that scumbag ex-president anymore.

MFS62 Mar 22 2021 01:50 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

My daughters both got up at 3AM to schedule their first shots on the day 45 year-olds were eligible in Connecticut. Later

Ceetar Mar 22 2021 01:53 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=58357 time=1616442317 user_id=68] Great. That'll be even more people downstate who are eligible for vaccines that aren't actually available. It's medical vaporware.

no it's not. They're rapidly increasing doses all over the place. Arguably it should be a free for all now. As fast as you can get as many people vaccinated has exponential gains in public health.



It's better to keep everything at 100% dosing than wait for it to drop to 90%. Gotta push towards as close to herd immunity as we can to buffer this thing, especially as something like 25% of US population isn't eligible for the vaccine, though thankfully most of them are kids and not great transmitters of the virus..for now anyway.. , plus the large % that just aren't going to get it.



And the faster we do it, the less variants there are, and the less of a hold the ones that currently exist can get.



There was a strong argument to be made that college kids and other 20-30 year olds should've been among the first, not the last, to get the vaccine.

batmagadanleadoff Mar 22 2021 01:57 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Great. That'll be even more people downstate who are eligible for vaccines that aren't actually available. It's medical vaporware. no it's not. They're rapidly increasing doses all over the place. Arguably it should be a free for all now. As fast as you can get as many people vaccinated has exponential gains in public health. It's better to keep everything at 100% dosing than wait for it to drop to 90%. Gotta push towards as close to herd immunity as we can to buffer this thing, especially as something like 25% of US population isn't eligible for the vaccine, though thankfully most of them are kids and not great transmitters of the virus..for now anyway.. , plus the large % that just aren't going to get it. And the faster we do it, the less variants there are, and the less of a hold the ones that currently exist can get. There was a strong argument to be made that college kids and other 20-30 year olds should've been among the first, not the last, to get the vaccine. I don't disagree with anything you wrote. I'm simply questioning the availability of vaccines for the 50 and over crowd right now. I'm sure supplies will increase in the future and/or demand will eventually decrease as more and more people get vaccinated. I'm just sayin': "Good luck getting a vaccine real soon."

Ceetar Mar 22 2021 02:35 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

i saw some positive results in terms of NY availability tweets today, but I can't really speak to it much, managed to sneak in with a little due diligence in NJ. It seems like we're on the cusp of sudden availability though, with the J&J being pushed out to all these pharmacies. Good to get the next group at least starting to consider/look for it.

ashie62 Mar 22 2021 04:08 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

There is apparant no attempt in NJ to verify comorbidities prior to immunization at the mega sites at least. Show ID, your insurance card, not a requirement and that is about it. The online registration page seems to work on the honor system.

Edgy MD Mar 22 2021 07:05 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

I'm not one to get freaked out by Internet research, but the more I read about the Moderna vaccine, the creepier it gets.

Willets Point Mar 22 2021 07:32 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

My "local" Krispy Kreme is 76 miles away and across state borders, which runs contrary to the CDC travel guidelines, I think.

Fman99 Mar 22 2021 07:53 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

=ashie62 post_id=58370 time=1616450885 user_id=90] There is apparant no attempt in NJ to verify comorbidities prior to immunization at the mega sites at least. Show ID, your insurance card, not a requirement and that is about it. The online registration page seems to work on the honor system.

I went through the trouble of procuring a letter from my rheumatologist verifying my qualifications. The woman who processed my first Moderna shot gave it the most cursory of glances.

Ceetar Mar 23 2021 05:43 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

I didn't even specify which of the conditions on the list I met, I just clicked 'yes' and that was the last time it mattered. If you want the vaccine in NJ, just go get it. (I followed the Bergen County vaccine bot on Twitter and just clicked through every time it found appointments. A bunch of meadowland ones dropped and I was paying attention and boom)

ashie62 Mar 23 2021 06:42 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Pre existing anything seems to be out the window. The Pfizer vaccine is the one "in stock" at Rockaway for the time being. Dose two in two weeks.

kcmets Mar 23 2021 07:38 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Frayed Knot wrote: NYS dropping the vaccine age to 50 starting on Tuesday acc. to Gov Cuomo as he attempts to [CROSSOUT]change the topic of conversation about himself[/CROSSOUT] keep more people safe from the disease. Good news. Haven't seen that anywhere but here but it's probably coming.

TransMonk Mar 24 2021 01:20 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

I got Pfizer shot #1 today. I'm extremely grateful. I was the sucker who chose 2022 as when I expected to get vaccinated in our poll thread.

Benjamin Grimm Mar 24 2021 01:24 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Congratulations!

ashie62 Mar 24 2021 01:52 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Very happy to see many here getting the vaccine. I have dose two 4/10 but I already feel mentally relieved to a large degree.

Benjamin Grimm Mar 24 2021 01:56 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

A study in Israel showed that people who have received just one dose of the Pfizer vaccine have, on average, 87% resistance to the virus within 15 to 21 days. The second shot is less about boosting the resistance (although it does do that) but more about lengthening the duration of the immunity.

Johnny Lunchbucket Mar 25 2021 05:34 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Hey I just got an appointment for this weekend

G-Fafif Mar 25 2021 09:50 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

https://youtu.be/HivQqTtiHVw Moderna Love at Walgreens today, first side. Other than wearing a red & white Band-Aid suggesting affinity for the Nationals, A-OK.

Ceetar Mar 25 2021 10:54 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

I mean, you're basically in their team store.

Benjamin Grimm Mar 25 2021 11:02 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

I just confirmed the appointment for my second dose, this upcoming Tuesday morning. My niece got her first dose on Tuesday, my girlfriend got hers yesterday, on Wednesday, and my son is getting his today, Thursday. As this thread shows, more and more people are joining the Ranks of the Jabbed, and each one I hear about makes me happy.

Johnny Lunchbucket Mar 25 2021 01:48 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

https://youtu.be/HivQqTtiHVw Moderna Love at Walgreens today, first side. Other than wearing a red & white Band-Aid suggesting affinity for the Nationals, A-OK. Mine'll be at Walgreens too. How long was the wait?

MFS62 Mar 25 2021 02:06 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

This just in. The vaccine will be available to all CT residents April 1 (no fooling). https://www.newstimes.com/news/coronavirus/article/Vaccines-open-to-all-CT-residents-April-1-despite-16053536.php?sid=591c902424c17c3e4b8c85fd&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=headlines&utm_campaign=CT_NT_NewsNow Later

G-Fafif Mar 25 2021 02:11 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: https://youtu.be/HivQqTtiHVw Moderna Love at Walgreens today, first side. Other than wearing a red & white Band-Aid suggesting affinity for the Nationals, A-OK. Mine'll be at Walgreens too. How long was the wait? Hardly any. Super efficient, like they're pros. It's possible I just hit a good interval. The whole visit was maybe 25 minutes, and most of that was “please wait 15 minutes afterwards to make sure you're OK.” Fill out that consent form (assuming they emailed you the link) before you head over. Saves time.

Johnny Lunchbucket Mar 25 2021 02:22 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

okeydokey

metsmarathon Mar 25 2021 10:35 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

got poked at work on wednesday. so far no ill effects, other than a slightly sore arm. i was hoping to have it activate latent superpowers, but so far none have manifested... yet

Ceetar Mar 26 2021 12:36 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

=metsmarathon post_id=58707 time=1616733353 user_id=83] got poked at work on wednesday. so far no ill effects, other than a slightly sore arm. i was hoping to have it activate latent superpowers, but so far none have manifested... yet

you gotta pair it with a hot krispy kreme donut for the superpowers.

kcmets Mar 26 2021 01:43 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

I'm waiting on CVS to get less busy. They have four out of like one hundred "Appointment Available" in New York state locations. Rest are "Fully Booked." Maybe come Monday I'll get more proactive, start making calls... squeaky wheel gets the oil and all that jazz.

Willets Point Mar 26 2021 02:27 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

I'm happy for all of you getting your shots. I'm not even eligible until April 19. Republican governors suck.

Fman99 Mar 29 2021 12:25 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Super perv-o governor Cuomo announced all New Yorkers 30+ can sign up starting tomorrow and age 16+ on April 6th. Which is great news, especially the latter, as it means I can get Fboy an appointment on that date as well (he turned 16 last week).

Johnny Lunchbucket Mar 29 2021 02:29 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

got my 1st yesterday. Added 5 mph to my fastball

Frayed Knot Mar 29 2021 03:02 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

=Fman99 post_id=58895 time=1617042356 user_id=86] I can get Fboy an appointment on that date as well (he turned 16 last week).

What kind of a 16th birthday present is that?!?

Congratulations son, you're now 16 which means I'm going to have someone stab you in the arm.



Geez, some pop you are. Whatever happened to the time honored tradition of getting him a hooker?

batmagadanleadoff Mar 29 2021 03:08 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

=Fman99 post_id=58895 time=1617042356 user_id=86] Super perv-o governor Cuomo announced all New Yorkers 30+ can sign up starting tomorrow and age 16+ on April 6th. Which is great news, especially the latter, as it means I can get Fboy an appointment on that date as well (he turned 16 last week).

Am I supposed to be happy about this? That's more competition for me! OK if they're also upping the vaccine supply. But if not, that's just more people jockeying for the same number of available slots.

batmagadanleadoff Mar 29 2021 03:15 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=58916 time=1617052114 user_id=68] =Fman99 post_id=58895 time=1617042356 user_id=86] Super perv-o governor Cuomo announced all New Yorkers 30+ can sign up starting tomorrow and age 16+ on April 6th. Which is great news, especially the latter, as it means I can get Fboy an appointment on that date as well (he turned 16 last week).

Am I supposed to be happy about this? That's more competition for me! OK if they're also upping the vaccine supply. But if not, that's just more people jockeying for the same number of available slots.


Who's got the Johnson & Johnson? I'd rather only go once.

Benjamin Grimm Mar 29 2021 03:36 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

This isn't at all scientific, but I've read more good things about Pfizer than any of the others, so I'm happy to have gotten that one, even though it requires the two doses.

MFS62 Mar 29 2021 03:44 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

I've read that the J&J vaccine is being sent to places where the patients won't have to return for a second shot (e.g.-homeless shelters, rural areas, etc.) because coming back might be difficult. But I haven't seen any government official verify that. Later

Marshmallowmilkshake Mar 29 2021 05:28 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

=MFS62 post_id=58929 time=1617054245 user_id=60] I've read that the J&J vaccine is being sent to places where the patients won't have to return for a second shot (e.g.-homeless shelters, rural areas, etc.) because coming back might be difficult. But I haven't seen any government official verify that. Later

Had not heard that, but it makes sense. I do know one person who was able to get it.



My daughter had the second Pfizer shot and no side effects, thank goodness.

Fman99 Mar 29 2021 05:39 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

The right one to get is the first one that is available to you. My son will get the Pfizer as the other two have not been approved for his age bracket. My wife had that one and I had the Moderna, both of us with minimal side effects. A bunch of my friends in their 30's are all getting signed up. Which is great.

Benjamin Grimm Mar 29 2021 05:43 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

I have a friend who got knocked for loop by the second dose of Pfizer, still wiped out two days later. But he had had a previous COVID infection and that's been linked to more severe side effects.

Ceetar Mar 30 2021 07:13 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Frayed Knot wrote: =Fman99 post_id=58895 time=1617042356 user_id=86] I can get Fboy an appointment on that date as well (he turned 16 last week). What kind of a 16th birthday present is that?!? Congratulations son, you're now 16 which means I'm going to have someone stab you in the arm. Geez, some pop you are. Whatever happened to the time honored tradition of getting him a hooker?

Well, which shot did SHE get?

A Boy Named Seo Mar 30 2021 09:42 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Just got my text for Moderna RIGHT NOW! I get it on April 1st. I hope it's not a joke.

Benjamin Grimm Mar 30 2021 10:07 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

I received my second dose of Pfizer less than an hour ago.

Double Switch Mar 30 2021 10:25 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

A Boy Named Seo wrote: Just got my text for Moderna RIGHT NOW! I get it on April 1st. I hope it's not a joke. I get my second shot of Pfizer on April 1st. Same.

Frayed Knot Mar 30 2021 12:45 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I received my second dose of Pfizer less than an hour ago. My second dose of Pfizer is scheduled for 16 days from now ... so someone help me keep track as to whether Grimm suddenly stops posting.

Benjamin Grimm Mar 30 2021 12:57 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

It's been about four hours, and I'm still alive.

Frayed Knot Mar 30 2021 12:59 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Keep me posted.

Fman99 Mar 31 2021 10:49 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

The Pfizer vaccine will soon be approved for kids age 12 and up, which is great for our family as all four of us could potentially be vaccinated by September.

Ceetar Mar 31 2021 11:11 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

=Fman99 post_id=59059 time=1617209371 user_id=86] The Pfizer vaccine will soon be approved for kids age 12 and up, which is great for our family as all four of us could potentially be vaccinated by September.

says they've already started 5+ trials, which is great, and will start even younger than that. First time I actually have hope that we'll get to a point where crowded indoor dining with families isn't dangerous.

Willets Point Mar 31 2021 11:14 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Well, depending on the family. But at least it won't be dangerous from coronavirus.

kcmets Apr 05 2021 09:30 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Got a text from CVS that shots are available in my area. That is, if I want to drive to freakin' Binghamton. Has Rumble Pony season started? Anyway, I'm in the system for a callback.

Frayed Knot Apr 05 2021 10:00 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

I signed up with Walgreens maybe siz weeks ago and have yet to hear back. I wound up getting it from another pharmacy but of course they don't know that. Good thing I wasn't dependent on them alone.

kcmets Apr 05 2021 10:20 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

KB got her second pfshot this morning and got me an appointment for my pfirst on Pfriday. Luck changes like the wind, and Mt Kisco is a lot closer than Bingo.

Frayed Knot Apr 05 2021 12:59 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

The other thing is, Walgreen's made me sign up for an account with them before they'd even accept me on their waiting list So I've gotten plenty of notices from Walgreens but nothing concerning the reason I signed up in the first place. I sense a bait-and-switch scam going on here.

cal sharpie Apr 05 2021 02:27 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

I got my second shot on Friday and shaved my quarantine beard last night. Onward.

Double Switch Apr 05 2021 02:43 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

I received shot #2 last Thursday with no worse aftereffects than from the first one. Slightly aching muscle and within two days, that was done. Still wearing masks as SOP.

whippoorwill Apr 06 2021 11:11 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

I am officially scheduled:)

Fman99 Apr 06 2021 08:06 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

My 16 year old son will get Pfizer shot #1 on Friday. They had appointments as early as today but he's got volleyball games/practices all week. Hundreds of appointments for New Yorkers right down the street. Which is nice if you live in NY of course.

whippoorwill Apr 07 2021 04:46 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Me too! Mine is at 2 pm Friday I'll think of Fboy My second one is three weeks from Friday

MFS62 Apr 07 2021 05:20 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

My son-in-law and my 16 year old grandson finally found scheduled times for their first shots- in three weeks - at Mohegan Sun Casino. Yale-New Haven Medical Center has opened several vaccination locations across Connecticut and that is one of them. Later

Frayed Knot Apr 07 2021 06:02 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

=MFS62 post_id=60003 time=1617837611 user_id=60] Yale-New Haven Medical Center has opened several vaccination locations across Connecticut and Mohegan Sun Casino is one of them.

It's part of their 'Shots and Slots' promotion campaign.

[I]Get a shot, then take a shot.

Willets Point Apr 07 2021 06:20 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Sounds like a big gamble to me.

LWFS Apr 08 2021 12:33 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

I did it! An hour ago! At CitiField!

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 08 2021 05:38 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

=LWFS post_id=60017 time=1617863582 user_id=84] I did it! An hour ago! At CitiField!

With Anthony Recker?

kcmets Apr 08 2021 06:02 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

=LWFS post_id=60017 time=1617863582 user_id=84] I did it! An hour ago! At CitiField!

At 1:30 AM?

Ceetar Apr 08 2021 06:03 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

=LWFS post_id=60017 time=1617863582 user_id=84] I did it! An hour ago! At CitiField!

How many did you leave stranded on base?

LWFS Apr 08 2021 11:22 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

=Ceetar post_id=60022 time=1617883385 user_id=102] =LWFS post_id=60017 time=1617863582 user_id=84] I did it! An hour ago! At CitiField!

How many did you leave stranded on base?


That's a personal choice, and I'd prefer not to discuss it here.



And it was 12:30, actually, so TWO hours before that. Wifey and I had a free morning today, and a few late-night slots popped up when we were cruising for stuff on Easter weekend. (She had been waiting on J and J, but barely missed out a few times at a work-facilitated thing; this time, I convinced her to come along.)

Willets Point Apr 08 2021 11:48 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

My wife got shot #1 this morning.

LWFS Apr 08 2021 12:26 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Willets Point wrote: My wife got shot #1 this morning. Pfizer? Ragu? Tough-actin' Tinactin?

Willets Point Apr 08 2021 12:27 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Pfizer

kcmets Apr 09 2021 07:55 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Got my pfirst this morning , in and out in under an hour. Impressively efficient handling the crowd. I was number 20 in line and was surprised I wasn't there longer.

Edgy MD Apr 09 2021 11:29 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

I just got Johnsoned. Early side-effects include a strange new ability to ... kind of enjoy Lucinda Williams music.

Chad ochoseis Apr 09 2021 05:55 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Put Moderna #2 in the books this morning and feel fine so far. GF got Pfizer #2 yesterday and felt crappy all day today. We've been living on a rehydration drink of salt, coconut water, lemon juice, and pomegranate juice. And steak because steak tastes good.

Fman99 Apr 09 2021 06:41 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Shot #1 of the Pfizz for Fboy. Glad he has a spring birthday. He's no worse for wear. The lines were considerably longer today, about an hour from entering the queue to getting a jab. But the NYS Fairgrounds is a big operations with thousands of folks getting a jab every day.

Edgy MD Apr 10 2021 07:20 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Well, that kind of was a beatdown. Spent the night with a teeth chattering chill, woke up (to the extent that I slept enough to wake up) with a metallic taste in my mouf.

whippoorwill Apr 10 2021 08:09 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

I ache from yard work anyway so I don't know if it affected me or not Feel betterEdgy!

LWFS Apr 10 2021 11:25 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

If you were able to do yard work... you probably weren't feeling any significant side effects. Pfizer Day 1 knocked me down for a good, long while-- it felt like a mid-sized flu, with dizziness and significant fatigue and spread-out muscle aches, but minus any congestion.

Willets Point Apr 10 2021 01:27 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

By virtue of being a fatso, I have secured an appointment for April 15.

whippoorwill Apr 10 2021 01:56 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

=LWFS post_id=60320 time=1618075538 user_id=84] If you were able to do yard work... you probably weren't feeling any significant side effects. Pfizer Day 1 knocked me down for a good, long while-- it felt like a mid-sized flu, with dizziness and significant fatigue and spread-out muscle aches, but minus any congestion.

Wow! Yes I've been working in the yard every day, plus pretty active labor at my greenhouse job so I've got a lot of ‘spring aches'

Hopefully I'll be just as lucky on the 30th

dinosaur jesus Apr 10 2021 05:30 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

I had my first shot back in March. A couple of weeks later I had a doctor's appointment scheduled, just my regular checkup, and I called to say I had a head cold so maybe I should reschedule. They advised me to take a Covid test. I did, and I had it. And I was out of isolation in time to get my second shot a couple of days ago. No side effects to speak of, and the Covid never got worse than a not very bad cold. Maybe the first shot helped, or maybe I was just extremely lucky. The weird part is that if I hadn't had the doctor's appointment I wouldn't have gotten tested; I've had a couple of colds in the past year.

Ceetar Apr 10 2021 05:32 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

they say the first dose is pretty good at minimizing the effects of the virus. Honestly, managing to get Covid after that is probably the same as getting a second shot.

kcmets Apr 10 2021 06:36 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Almost 36 hours later, I've had no side epfectz from yesterday's shot. Maybe I got the top-top-top secret placebo.

Edgy MD Apr 10 2021 09:11 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

dinosaur jesus wrote: I had my first shot back in March. A couple of weeks later I had a doctor's appointment scheduled, just my regular checkup, and I called to say I had a head cold so maybe I should reschedule. They advised me to take a Covid test. I did, and I had it. And I was out of isolation in time to get my second shot a couple of days ago. No side effects to speak of, and the Covid never got worse than a not very bad cold. Maybe the first shot helped, or maybe I was just extremely lucky. The weird part is that if I hadn't had the doctor's appointment I wouldn't have gotten tested; I've had a couple of colds in the past year. I'm sorry to hear this. Do you think the vaccine could have triggered a misleading positive?

Chad ochoseis Apr 11 2021 06:24 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

=kcmets post_id=60376 time=1618101403 user_id=53] Almost 36 hours later, I've had no side epfectz from yesterday's shot. Maybe I got the top-top-top secret placebo.

It's the second one that generally kicks your ass. I spent a good chunk of yesterday with a low grade fever, and slept through most of the game yesterday, just like the Mets' bats.



Tylenol helped with the fever, and electrolyte replacement made me feel less crummy in general. I was fine by about 8 last night.



I got Moderna, but my girlfriend was on Team Pfizer, and the effects were the same.

whippoorwill Apr 11 2021 07:20 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Update: late yesterday my nose started running and by suppertime it felt like a brick hit my nose. This morning I have a headache, clogged sinuses and very sore throat. However, my husband had a cold so it could be that. My head feels so bad that I don't even notice if I have body aches. Off to take my temperature

dinosaur jesus Apr 11 2021 07:45 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Edgy MD wrote: dinosaur jesus wrote: I had my first shot back in March. A couple of weeks later I had a doctor's appointment scheduled, just my regular checkup, and I called to say I had a head cold so maybe I should reschedule. They advised me to take a Covid test. I did, and I had it. And I was out of isolation in time to get my second shot a couple of days ago. No side effects to speak of, and the Covid never got worse than a not very bad cold. Maybe the first shot helped, or maybe I was just extremely lucky. The weird part is that if I hadn't had the doctor's appointment I wouldn't have gotten tested; I've had a couple of colds in the past year. I'm sorry to hear this. Do you think the vaccine could have triggered a misleading positive? I don't know, but I'm guessing not. I had something, whatever it was. And the symptoms weren't quite consistent with a cold. It was like something impersonating a cold but not getting it quite right. As long as I didn't make anyone else sick (the wife and kid are fine), it doesn't matter now anyway.

Ceetar Apr 11 2021 09:42 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

=kcmets post_id=60376 time=1618101403 user_id=53] Almost 36 hours later, I've had no side epfectz from yesterday's shot. Maybe I got the top-top-top secret placebo.

less than half of people have any real side effects, more so the second dose, and less for pfizer than the others. Mostly fatigue, some fever/chills. Stronger immune systems exhibit more symptoms than weaker ones supposedly. I think it's like a quick rollout of defense flares up the side effects, but a slower roll you don't notice.

kcmets Apr 11 2021 10:12 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

I have no idea the status of my immune system. Generally speaking, I'm cold blooded and rarely get sick so I figured no side effects was me being me. I haven't had the flu since Doc had a giant billboardesque mural in Midtown Manhattan on the side of a building. I've probably jinxed myself and will pay come 4/30... feel better everyone, things are getting better.

Lefty Specialist Apr 12 2021 12:57 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Lefty Jr got an appointment through work now that DC has lowered the age to 16 for shots as of today. He'll be Pfizer'd at Walter Reed Hospital this week. He has promised me he won't ride around the block in a limousine waving to the crowd of well-wishers afterwards.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 13 2021 06:56 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

CDC calls for an immediate halt to the Johnson & Johnson vaccine after six people developed blood clots.

Ceetar Apr 13 2021 07:59 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Benjamin Grimm wrote: CDC calls for an immediate halt to the Johnson & Johnson vaccine after six people developed blood clots. fuck them, this is so stupid.

Fman99 Apr 13 2021 08:21 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Benjamin Grimm wrote: CDC calls for an immediate halt to the Johnson & Johnson vaccine after six people developed blood clots. fuck them, this is so stupid. Agreed, this is literally a one in a million chance that it will happen (6 blood clots reported among 6.8 million vaccines administered).

Ceetar Apr 13 2021 09:17 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

and they can't even definitively link it to the vaccine, and even if they did they'd just add a warning, they wouldn't scrap the vaccine anyway, and MORE PEOPLE will die from blood clots as a result of slowing the vaccination rate. ugh.

DocTee Apr 13 2021 10:04 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Had my second Moderna vaccine on Sunday. Woke fine but for a sore arm. Then, by mid-day Monday I was in bed, simultaneously shivering and feverish. Body aches. Subsided by 7 pm. Six hours of misery beats the alternative. Get your shots.

DocTee Apr 13 2021 10:10 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

CDC calls for an immediate halt to the Johnson & Johnson vaccine after six people developed blood clots. The risk of blood clots associated with: J&J vaccine: 1 in 1 million (.0001%) COVID-19 infection: 160,000 in 1 million (16.00%)

kcmets Apr 13 2021 10:16 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Halt has been downgraded to a pause haha...

Lefty Specialist Apr 13 2021 12:58 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

What worries me about this is that it gives oxygen to the vaccine deniers. And that makes it harder to achieve herd immunity and defeat the virus.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 13 2021 01:14 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Yes. That's my thought too.

MFS62 Apr 13 2021 01:18 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Lefty Specialist wrote: What worries me about this is that it gives oxygen to the vaccine deniers. And that makes it harder to achieve herd immunity and defeat the virus. And, Obama's successor just lashed out at this news, saying this was an FDA conspiracy between them and Pfizer against J%J. (Woody Johnson was one of his supporters). https://www.newsweek.com/trump-speculates-johnson-johnson-vaccine-pause-fueled-politics-fdas-friends-pfizer-1583307 Later

kcmets Apr 13 2021 01:27 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Does anyone personally know anyone who refuses to get a shot or two? I have a few MAGAesque friends, they've all gotten vaccinated or are at least half-vaxed.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 13 2021 01:35 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

I'm not aware of anyone yet.

Willets Point Apr 13 2021 01:43 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Access to vaccination has been a bigger barrier to people getting vaccinated than anti-vaxer-ism by a magnitude of several degrees despite media coverage/Democratic Party talking points being the exact opposite.

Ceetar Apr 13 2021 01:46 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

my parents aren't getting them and are annoyed that we're taking this seriously. *sigh*

Benjamin Grimm Apr 13 2021 01:47 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Willets Point wrote: Access to vaccination has been a bigger barrier to people getting vaccinated than anti-vaxer-ism by a magnitude of several degrees despite media coverage/Democratic Party talking points being the exact opposite. Yes, but at some point there will be a tipping point, where the supply will be greater than the demand. Hard to say when that will be, but it might be within a few months.

Lefty Specialist Apr 13 2021 01:48 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

I know a few. The excuses are: 'It was rushed and not fully tested' (The J&J news plays right into this) 'I don't know anyone who's died from it- it's all overblown.' 'I've made it this far and I'm in perfect health' 'We'll see- don't bug me about it'. (Which means no) This is usually said with a mask around their chin. And that's not even getting into the Bill Gates microchip stuff. These are somewhat rational people in their daily lives, which is why I'm betting that we don't get more than 65% of the population vaccinated no matter how hard we try. And if you think it'll be hard to get THEM vaccinated, just imagine how hard it'll be to get their KIDS vaccinated. It won't happen. Vaccine passports are the only way we'll get the number higher. If Bubba can't take the family on a plane to Disney World, things might change.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 13 2021 01:52 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

I'm glad some universities are requiring vaccinations. I hope that they continue to be allowed to do this, and that most other universities follow suit.

Willets Point Apr 13 2021 01:55 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Willets Point wrote: Access to vaccination has been a bigger barrier to people getting vaccinated than anti-vaxer-ism by a magnitude of several degrees despite media coverage/Democratic Party talking points being the exact opposite. Yes, but at some point there will be a tipping point, where the supply will be greater than the demand. Hard to say when that will be, but it might be within a few months. Then maybe it would be issue worth discussing in a few months. Right now hearing the "Smarter Than You" establishment Democrat types going on about "dumb hicks" being anti-vaxxers when people who desperately wanting the shot are getting shutout is a an excessive amount of cognitive dissonance.

Willets Point Apr 13 2021 01:56 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

There's also a lot of people, especially in the Black community which has a history of being used as guinea pigs for these kind of things, who are understandably waiting to see how it works first who are being unfairly tagged as "anti-vaxers" as well. I guess because calling people names worked so well for the last guy that these Dems are trying the same approach.

Ceetar Apr 13 2021 02:11 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

I mean, the vaccine is widely available, the J&J nonsense today aside, at this point. People should be getting vaccinated. I don't know who's calling people names, democrats are idiots too and this has been handled extremely poorly. But billions of doses have happened, anyone 'nervous' should probably be over it by now.

Willets Point Apr 13 2021 02:14 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

=Ceetar post_id=60595 time=1618344674 user_id=102] But billions of doses have happened, anyone 'nervous' should probably be over it by now.

If you're a white person who has a history of positive experiences with the medical field, yes.

Willets Point Apr 13 2021 02:17 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Again, saying "get over it" really isn't the best messaging if you actually want to encourage someone to do something.

Willets Point Apr 13 2021 02:20 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Willets Point wrote: Again, saying "get over it" really isn't the best messaging if you actually want to encourage someone to do something. Not blaming Ceetar for this as he's not in a position of power. My beef is with the actually people of influence who have the same attitude and are making it known publicly.

Frayed Knot Apr 13 2021 02:30 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021 Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Apr 13 2021 02:47 PM

An ass't grocery store Mgr I know had to deal with a phone call from an older, likely black, woman telling him the Pharmacy in his store shouldn't be giving the vaccine because it, among other things, was spreading syphilis to minority communities. Her attempt to organize a boycott was to follow.

Ceetar Apr 13 2021 02:43 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Willets Point wrote: Willets Point wrote: Again, saying "get over it" really isn't the best messaging if you actually want to encourage someone to do something. Not blaming Ceetar for this as he's not in a position of power. My beef is with the actually people of influence who have the same attitude and are making it known publicly. I mean, i'm saying it to you, not them. I don't know which people in power you're referring too specifically. I usually go with a more reserved 'vaccines are how we're going to beat this. they're super safe. please get vaccinated' in like, facebook groups or whatever. I agree with the point that how they've been treated, but at _this_ point, after billions of doses... (India isn't very white for example) any hesitancy is unfounded. Just because they have more grounding for "the goverment's out to get me" type nonsense than Qublicans, doesn't make it a good stance. A lot of the people we're talking about, the line-cooks, the barbacks, etc should've probably been first in line, if we'd done this from a prevention standpoint and not a political equity one.

MFS62 Apr 13 2021 02:47 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Frayed Knot wrote: An asset grocery store What is an asset grocery store? Never heard that term before. Later

Frayed Knot Apr 13 2021 02:48 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Frayed Knot wrote: An asset grocery store What is an asset grocery store? Never heard that term before. Already fixed it. #%$@ spell-check

kcmets Apr 13 2021 04:00 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Frayed Knot wrote: ...because it, among other things, was spreading syphilis to minority communities.... Haven't spread syphilis in ages, takes me back. (it is amazing the ideas people get in their heads from wherever)

MFS62 Apr 13 2021 05:18 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

=kcmets post_id=60648 time=1618351205 user_id=53] Haven't spread syphilis in ages, takes me back.

Which reminds me, you can get shots for that, too. LOL!



Later

Willets Point Apr 13 2021 05:36 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

I think we'll see a big change when the availability of the vaccine goes up and you won't need to be an internet whiz to figure out how to score an appointment. Right now there may be billions of people vaccinated but it's still possible for a hesitant person to know no one in their own community who is vaccinated and aren't going to jump through hoops on the internet to sign up. When it gets to the point when they can throw up a big tent and take all-comers for big vaccine clinics. suddenly they'll start seeing more people they know get the vaccine and they'll go themselves

MFS62 Apr 13 2021 05:40 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

My granddaughter hasn't gotten it yet because she got COVID and recovered, but you can't get the vaccine for 90 days after you recover. I think they will be giving them at her college by the time she's eligible to get one. Later

whippoorwill Apr 13 2021 06:07 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Pa opened up the state to anyone over 16 today and you couldn't buy a vaccine appt for a million dollars right now

Frayed Knot Apr 13 2021 06:35 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

I don't know anyone who's against vaccines for tinfoil hat reasons, but some, particularly younger ones, just don't seem in any hurry to get one. It's more like, 'Yeah, I'll get around to it.'

Ceetar Apr 13 2021 06:39 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

=whippoorwill post_id=60750 time=1618358866 user_id=79] Pa opened up the state to anyone over 16 today and you couldn't buy a vaccine appt for a million dollars right now

i mean that's because of the temporary and stupid J&J pause, but I was seeing plenty of tweets about pretty much open availability around the NYC metro area for days. 3.5 of 8.8m NJ residents have gotten at least the first shot, which I think means if you ask a random adult, they're more likely than not to have gotten a shot.



We're there. we're at the point that we can really start forcing this virus to the fringes if we can get that last 5-10% or whatever 'reluctant' population vaccinated in advance of them lowering the minimum age.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 13 2021 08:47 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

=whippoorwill post_id=60750 time=1618358866 user_id=79] Pa opened up the state to anyone over 16 today and you couldn't buy a vaccine appt for a million dollars right now

My daughter, 19, registered yesterday (the first day she was eligible) and today scored an appointment for Monday of next week. It's going to be Pfizer for her.



My son and my girlfriend get their second doses next week. And for me, today is my milestone day. Two weeks since my second dose of Pfizer.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 13 2021 08:47 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

=whippoorwill post_id=60750 time=1618358866 user_id=79] Pa opened up the state to anyone over 16 today and you couldn't buy a vaccine appt for a million dollars right now

My daughter, 19, registered yesterday (the first day she was eligible) and today scored an appointment for Monday of next week. It's going to be Pfizer for her.



My son and my girlfriend get their second doses next week. And for me, today is my milestone day. Two weeks since my second dose of Pfizer.

TransMonk Apr 14 2021 11:16 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Just got my second Pfizer jab. In two weeks I'll be able to lick some doorknobs!

kcmets Apr 14 2021 12:32 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

=TransMonk post_id=60858 time=1618420613 user_id=71]In two weeks I'll be able to lick some doorknobs!

Having things to look forward to is an important staple in life!

metsmarathon Apr 15 2021 01:54 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

i got my second pfizering yesterday as well. arm is a little sore still, but otherwise, a-ok. bring on the doorknobs!

Willets Point Apr 15 2021 02:24 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Just returned from getting shot #1. The strangest thing about it was being a room that was really crowded for the first time in over a year.

Frayed Knot Apr 15 2021 06:21 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

It wasn't wine I had too much of, it was a double shot of my baby's love [YOUTUBE]lk4Rj9WXjko[/YOUTUBE]

Marshmallowmilkshake Apr 15 2021 07:19 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Got my second shot last week. A relative who who works in healthcare said to drink lots of Gatorade before and after shot 2 to mitigate the side effects. Both my daughter and I did this and were fine. My wife didn't, and wasn't. Now, can I say for certain that there is a cause and effect there. But it's worth a try if you are worried.

Ceetar Apr 15 2021 09:52 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

I kept hydrated and was fine. Laid off the beer the night of the second too (not the first)

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 19 2021 05:53 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Pfizered for a second time yesterday. Burned up all night soaked in sweat, and my shoulder is killing me.

Fman99 Apr 19 2021 06:30 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Great to see so many of my internet friends getting jabbed. Two things that are now irking me about this whole process. First is that because Fgirl is only 13 we will have to get her a Covid test any time we want to go to the ballpark (major or minor leagues), whereas the rest of us will all be vaccinated. The second one is that my county somehow fucked up the process of sending my immunization records in to the state, so NY has no knowledge of my 2nd shot and therefore I cannot get the Excelsior Pass for myself. Which means I'll be carting around a giant laminated Moderna vaccine card all summer. These are admittedly small things to be groaning about, I recognize that.

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 19 2021 07:40 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Ridiculous that they made these cards twice the size of your wallet

MFS62 Apr 19 2021 07:55 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Don't laminate the cards if you plan on getting the booster shots and have your shot history all in one place. My wife took the plastic sleeves they sell to protect photographs and cut them to fit the cards. That way, the cards are protected but can be removed for updates. Later

Lefty Specialist Apr 19 2021 07:55 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

https://twitter.com/NGrossman81/status/1383793940332044297?s=20

Fman99 Apr 20 2021 07:24 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

=Fman99 post_id=61424 time=1618835417 user_id=86] The second one is that my county somehow fucked up the process of sending my immunization records in to the state, so NY has no knowledge of my 2nd shot and therefore I cannot get the Excelsior Pass for myself. Which means I'll be carting around a giant laminated Moderna vaccine card all summer.

My county finally got caught up, apparently, and sent in record of my second shot. So now I have a valid Excelsior Pass on my phone with a record of my vaccination. Which helps -- that means I won't have to drag my card around.



I never did laminate that card, for the record. Suggestions to not do so make more sense now that Moderna has announced that there will likely be a 3rd shot later this year.

MFS62 Apr 20 2021 07:28 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Anyone who has been a Jets fan wouldn't trust a company owned by Jets owner Woody Johnson to produce a vaccine. In fact, we wouldn't trust him to run a corner lemonade stand. So we're not surprised that his company has messed it up. The difference is, rooting for the Jets has been slowly killing us over a period of years. And this vaccine fuckup could have killed millions quicker than that. It was good to hear this morning that a Congressional sub-committee is looking into how J&K, and Kodak, were awarded medical contracts by the tRump administration based on their contributions to his campaign. Later

MFS62 Apr 21 2021 07:24 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

The fact that the towns that went for Biden have the higher vaccination rates should come as no surprise if you've spoken to people who voted for the other guy. An analysis of all Connecticut municipalities revealed that in the 10 towns that voted the most for Biden, excluding cities with a population over 100,000, an average of 53 percent of their residents have had at least one dose. That compared with 47.6 percent in the 10 towns that voted more for former President Donald Trump. https://www.ctinsider.com/news/coronavirus/newstimes/article/Analysis-CT-towns-with-lower-COVID-vaccine-16113566.php?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=CT_NT_MorningBriefing&sid=591c902424c17c3e4b8c85fd Later

G-Fafif Apr 22 2021 10:20 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

No. 2 is in the books! In the arm, I mean. Even still.

Edgy MD Apr 22 2021 10:47 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

While I imagine Woody Johnson has a locker full of Johnson & Johnson stock, it's not really fair or accurate to portray him as the owner.

Centerfield Apr 22 2021 11:35 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

=G-Fafif post_id=61763 time=1619108415 user_id=55] No. 2 is in the books! In the arm, I mean. Even still.

Any side effects? I got lucky and was ok. My wife didn't feel good for about a day and a half.

kcmets Apr 22 2021 11:50 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

It's interesting how the side-effects vary. Maybe it will be better explained one day. Our neighbor and wife got #2 the other day. He doesn't like sports and said to me yesterday, "I felt like someone beat me with a baseball bat, and you know how much I hate baseball." It was funny, maybe you had to be there.

G-Fafif Apr 22 2021 11:59 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

No sides other than the sore wing the first time. Felt slightly lightheaded coming out of the Walgreens this time, about two hours ago, but that faded. Arm knows it's been shot again. We'll see how the rest of me fares. Mrs. Fafif was J&J'd early this month on a Friday. She had less than than average weekend immediately thereafter, but after 48 hours was okey-dokey.

Frayed Knot Apr 22 2021 01:25 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Pfizer vac x 2 and felt fine both times. If I'd turn to sleep on the injected shoulder or maybe stretch to reach for something I'd feel a slight soreness but I almost had to try to make it hurt in order to feel it.

metsmarathon Apr 22 2021 01:53 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

my arm felt a little more baseball-batty the second go around with the pfizer, but otherwise no ill effects.

Centerfield Apr 22 2021 02:10 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

I think guys who got Pfizer are feeling it less. Most of the women who got Pfizer have felt something.

MFS62 Apr 23 2021 05:53 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Exactly one year ago today, Obama's successor told us to inject or ingest bleach to combat the disease. Later

kcmets Apr 23 2021 06:00 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

How did that work out for ya?

MFS62 Apr 23 2021 06:52 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

How did that work out for ya? What makes you think I did? It was the collective "us". The people who followed that advice, rather than listening to advice from qualified doctors and epidemiologists, deserved what happened to them. I wouldn't do anything he said to do. I still can't believe that even after that, and other harmful things he said about the virus, 70 million people still voted for him. Later

kcmets Apr 23 2021 07:00 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Uh. I was joking.

ashie62 Apr 24 2021 10:11 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Pfizer #2 in the books. No side effects other than a sore arm.

Willets Point Apr 24 2021 10:34 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Suddenly seeing a lot more pop-up clinics for walk-ins. This means that people who didn't have the wherewithal to jump through hoops online to register will finally have the opportunity. Good things are happening!

Frayed Knot Apr 24 2021 12:54 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Willets Point wrote: Suddenly seeing a lot more pop-up clinics for walk-ins. This means that people who didn't have the wherewithal to jump through hoops online to register will finally have the opportunity. Good things are happening! I'm seeing the same thing but I tend to think it's a sign that supply is simply starting to out-pace demand. We're closer to being enough for everyone but not everyone wants it, and others just seem to be in no hurry.

Willets Point Apr 24 2021 12:57 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

The no hurry folks would be people who don't want to or unable to go through complex registration procedures. So this is opening things up for them.

Frayed Knot Apr 24 2021 01:08 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Willets Point wrote: The no hurry folks would be people who don't want to or unable to go through complex registration procedures. So this is opening things up for them. And yet I'm still hearing from people who could right now walk across the street and get a shot and are in no hurry to do so. Stores with a pharmacy inside are making announcements that walk-up shots are available to anyone in the store and the stampede is about the same as if they had announced that canned lima beans are 3-cents off this week.

MFS62 Apr 24 2021 01:19 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

My granddaughter, who had COVID-19, had to wait 3 months to get the vaccine. She just got her first Pfizer shot, and has been scheduled to get the second one in three weeks. Because she'll be home by then, she'll have to go back to her college to get it. Later

seawolf17 Apr 24 2021 07:29 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Frayed Knot wrote: Willets Point wrote: The no hurry folks would be people who don't want to or unable to go through complex registration procedures. So this is opening things up for them. And yet I'm still hearing from people who could right now walk across the street and get a shot and are in no hurry to do so. Stores with a pharmacy inside are making announcements that walk-up shots are available to anyone in the store and the stampede is about the same as if they had announced that canned lima beans are 3-cents off this week. Yep, this. There are still a lot of folks who just won't get it. I don't understand it at all.

Fman99 Apr 27 2021 09:04 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

=seawolf17 post_id=62050 time=1619314153 user_id=91] Yep, this. There are still a lot of folks who just won't get it. I don't understand it at all.

They are ignorant. I refuse to accept any other explanation. Though I'd expand that judgement to anyone who refuses any generally accepted medical vaccine, not just Covid.

kcmets Apr 27 2021 02:37 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

I've decided the design of the CDC vaccine card is stupid. Anyone with the least rudimentary skills can just make a fugazi. It should be laminated and marked with some kind of imprint. The size is stupid too.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 27 2021 02:41 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Joined the club today. Got my J&J one-shot only. Called the pharmacy to make an appointment and was told that no appointment was necessary. Walked in and was the only one in there getting vaccinated.

seawolf17 Apr 28 2021 04:21 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

=kcmets post_id=62249 time=1619555848 user_id=53] I've decided the design of the CDC vaccine card is stupid. Anyone with the least rudimentary skills can just make a fugazi. It should be laminated and marked with some kind of imprint. The size is stupid too.

I think the size is my biggest problem. They seriously couldn't make that wallet-sized?

Fman99 Apr 28 2021 05:29 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

=seawolf17 post_id=62308 time=1619605302 user_id=91] =kcmets post_id=62249 time=1619555848 user_id=53] I've decided the design of the CDC vaccine card is stupid. Anyone with the least rudimentary skills can just make a fugazi. It should be laminated and marked with some kind of imprint. The size is stupid too.

I think the size is my biggest problem. They seriously couldn't make that wallet-sized?


Yep agreed, very stupid. Though now that my Excelsior pass shows my info this is maybe less of a big deal. Hopefully that's just accepted at all the places I might otherwise have to show proof of my vax.

TransMonk Apr 28 2021 07:46 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

I'm two weeks past my second dose, meaning I'm "fully vaccinated". I'm dating my personal battle against getting COVID-19 from 03/13/20 - 04/28/21.

Chad ochoseis Apr 28 2021 09:26 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

I celebrated my immunity by flying back to NYC for a long weekend. Thought seriously about getting a ticket to what turned out to be the Jake deGrom game, but wasn't feeling it. We did eat indoors at a restaurant for the first time since March 14, 2020, first for breakfast at the Neptune Diner in Astoria (it stunk...I forgot the first rule of New York dining, which is that if a restaurant has a good reputation, it's now resting on its laurels and taking advantage of tourists from Cleveland) and then for dinner at Fiaschetteria in the West Village (eat there now before it gets a good rep!).

kcmets Apr 28 2021 09:54 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

=seawolf17 post_id=62308 time=1619605302 user_id=91]i think the size is my biggest problem. They seriously couldn't make that wallet-sized?

Size matters! I don't carry a wallet, but business card or license size would

be more practical for sure.

Frayed Knot Apr 28 2021 02:23 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

I'm two weeks past my second dose, meaning I'm "fully vaccinated". I'm dating my personal battle against getting COVID-19 from 03/13/20 - 04/28/21. Doorknob-licking season for me starts tomorrow.

kcmets Apr 30 2021 08:27 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Got my second Pfizer-shot early this morning. On my second quart of Gatorade. Considering changing to scotch, but might wait until after noon. I mean, only alcoholics drink scotch before noon. But seriously, no pain or side effects yet. Barely felt the needle go in this time.

Frayed Knot Apr 30 2021 09:52 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

=kcmets post_id=62535 time=1619792846 user_id=53] But seriously, no pain or side effects yet. Barely felt the needle go in this time.

I hardly cried at all the second time, and even the little i did was mostly an act hoping they'd feel sorry for me and give me a lollipop.

kcmets Apr 30 2021 10:21 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

My injectionist was a hottie, I was too hummina hummina hummina in my head to even think to ask for a lollipop.

whippoorwill Apr 30 2021 10:57 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Getting my second shot this afternoon. My shot giver is my husband's ex sister in law, so I try to keep my libido down haha

kcmets Apr 30 2021 11:35 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

=whippoorwill post_id=62541 time=1619801859 user_id=79] Getting my second shot this afternoon. My shot giver is my husband's ex sister in law, so I try to keep my libido down haha

I hope you feel as good I do afterward.



That's very adult of you, one day I'll grow up. Stacy's mom wrote a song about my injectionist lol...

whippoorwill Apr 30 2021 01:55 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

So far so good :) Maybe since I got sick after the first one I'll be spared this time

The Hot Corner Apr 30 2021 08:49 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

My entire family is fully vaccinated. I just don't understand people that refuse to get the vaccination. My sister and brother in law refuse to be vaccinated. For him, I think it's all a political motivation. I think my sister is just trying to keep peace in the family by going along (which is not generally her style).

kcmets May 01 2021 09:21 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

There's got to be a morning after. I guess I'm ok, but feeling rather listless for this hour of the day. Rubbery, maybe?

Frayed Knot May 01 2021 09:44 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Saw the results of some poll the other day (who knows how accurate) that listed the 'Never Will' get the vaccine crowd at 12% with another 15% taking the 'Wait and See' approach.

whippoorwill May 01 2021 09:55 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

=kcmets post_id=62675 time=1619882477 user_id=53] There's got to be a morning after. I guess I'm ok, but feeling rather listless for this hour of the day. Rubbery, maybe?

I noticed I couldn't smell my noxema this morning but other than that nothing unusual

Willets Point May 06 2021 02:35 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

I officially have a double shot my COVID vax. [YOUTUBE]57s89xrC93o[/YOUTUBE]

MFS62 May 10 2021 02:27 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Just exchanged a series of texts with the president of my company, the result being that will accommodate me continuing to work from home as long as I can attend occasional meetings in the office. She told me that nobody is allowed in the office without having completed their vaccinations (one or two, depending on which vaccine they received) or has had COVID-19. But I prefer working from home because of my new medical regimen and she agreed. Later

Ceetar May 10 2021 04:40 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

jab the kids! jab the kids! approved for 12-15. I'm still waiting on 4, but..

Fman99 May 10 2021 08:10 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Expectation is that the CDC will announce this on Wednesday and appointments will be available for kids age 12-15 starting Thursday. Fgirl will be getting her jab at my earliest convenience, perhaps during the day Thursday or Friday.

Willets Point May 10 2021 08:14 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

My son is extremely anxious in public places so it will make for great peace of mind if and when he can be vaccinated.

Fman99 May 11 2021 05:14 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Willets Point wrote: My son is extremely anxious in public places so it will make for great peace of mind if and when he can be vaccinated. My daughter is more about getting hers so she can go do fun things this summer - ballgames, girl scout camp, etc.

Benjamin Grimm May 11 2021 07:02 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

My sister and her husband refuse to get the vaccine, because it's killed 4,000 people. [face-slap emoji] [eye-roll emoji]

metsmarathon May 11 2021 08:33 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

fuck, these people are willing to excuse away preexisting conditions, lifestyle, and deliberately incorrect cause-of-death reporting for the over 3 million deaths worldwide, and nearly 600k in america alone, but have no issue whatsoever believing that the supposed 4000 deaths among those who'd received the vaccine - again worldwide - are true and yea-verily more threatening and dangerous than the real fucking thing. 300 million people worldwide are fully vaccinated, and 600 million have received one dose. 4,000 dead. that's about 1:75,000. that's... i dunno. not without risk, but i don't have anything to compare it against. oh wait. i do. 159 million people worldwide were infected with covid. 3.3 million died. that's about 1:50. hmmm... the scale of these numbers is not the same. about the only way the vaccine would be worse than covid, is if... doing math... let's see... maybe there were some unreported covid cases bumping up the number... maybe people got it and didn't know, so it was never recorded, so covid isn't quite as bad as we think.... so. yeah. we would need about 245 BILLION more cases of covid to have gone unrecorded in order for the vaccine to somehow be as deadly and dangerous as the thing itself. earth's population is a little over 7.6 billion. this can mean only one thing. bill gates, jeffrey epstein, and george soros are HIDING almost 240 BILLION PEOPLE on their jewish laser space station. WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!!1!!!1

Ceetar May 11 2021 09:05 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covid-vaccine-tracker-global-distribution/ 1.31 BILLION DOSES. I know none of it's about facts anyway, but it's such nonsense. I can't wait until it gets down to 4+ for vaccinations.

metsmarathon May 11 2021 12:29 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covid-vaccine-tracker-global-distribution/ 1.31 BILLION DOSES. I know none of it's about facts anyway, but it's such nonsense. I can't wait until it gets down to 4+ for vaccinations. it's worse than i thought! there's 500 BILLION people up there on that damned laser. how did they get there. what else are they hiding from us.

Lefty Specialist May 11 2021 01:31 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Willets Point wrote: My son is extremely anxious in public places so it will make for great peace of mind if and when he can be vaccinated. My daughter is more about getting hers so she can go do fun things this summer - ballgames, girl scout camp, etc. My niece, who's 14, is exactly the same way. She's chomping at the bit to get vaccinated so she can have a normal summer.

whippoorwill May 11 2021 04:01 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

My five year old grandson said that very thing the other day. I think he's afraid I won't let him come swimming otherwise. :) As if.

Fman99 May 13 2021 05:39 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Appointments for kids 12-15 now available in New York state. Fgirl gets shot #1 tomorrow morning.

kcmets May 13 2021 11:40 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Officially at the two-week mark and still have ten fingers and toes. Gonna go out later and lick everything and everybody in the neighborhood.

G-Fafif May 13 2021 12:51 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

[tweet]https://twitter.com/cdcgov/status/1392911350058323973[/tweet]

G-Fafif May 13 2021 01:00 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

The new advice comes with caveats. Even vaccinated individuals must cover their faces and physically distance when going to doctors, hospitals or long-term care facilities like nursing homes; when traveling by bus, plane, train or other modes of public transportation, or while in transportation hubs like airports and bus stations; and when in prisons, jails or homeless shelters. In deference to local authorities, the C.D.C. said vaccinated Americans must continue to abide by existing state, local, or tribal laws and regulations, and follow local rules for businesses and workplaces. Individuals are considered fully vaccinated two weeks after the one-dose Johnson & Johnson shot or the second dose of either Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna vaccine series. Still, the changes are likely to galvanize Americans who have become unaccustomed to appearing in public unmasked — or to seeing others do so. “We've got to liberalize the restrictions so people can feel like they're getting back to some normalcy,” Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, the Biden administration's senior adviser on the pandemic, said in an interview. “Pulling back restrictions on indoor masks is an important step in the right direction.” “You can't inhibit people from doing the things they want to do, which is one of the reasons they wanted to get vaccinated in the first place, because other people are not getting vaccinated,” he added. The move could raise alarms among more cautious Americans, who may be more reluctant to engage in public activities when more people are unmasked. There is no way to know who is vaccinated and who is not, and the majority of the population is not yet fully vaccinated. “For those who are more risk averse, you have a choice of continuing to wear it if you want to,” Dr. Fauci said. In justifying the move, agency officials pointed to several recent studies showing that vaccines are more than 90 percent effective at preventing mild and severe disease, hospitalizations and deaths from Covid-19 in real world settings. Among them was a study of 6,710 health care workers in Israel, including 5,517 fully vaccinated workers, that found the Pfizer vaccine was 97 percent effective at preventing symptomatic infections among the fully vaccinated, and 86 percent effective at preventing asymptomatic infections among them. (Vaccination rates in Israel are far higher than in the United States, however.) The C.D.C also emphasized that vaccines in use have also proven effective against variants of the coronavirus that are circulating in the United States. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/13/health/cdc-masks-guidance.html

Ceetar May 13 2021 01:11 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

such bullshit, but #capitalism. I imagine stores/restaurants will now start to relax mask rules, especially coming in the summer, which means if you've got young kids, you have no idea if that server speaking the specials directly over child is spewing Covid or not.

G-Fafif May 13 2021 01:15 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

[tweet]https://twitter.com/shanegoldmacher/status/1392912530679402510[/tweet] Note sporting events.

Centerfield May 13 2021 01:20 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Did the CDC give any guidance on how to cover this double chin without a mask?

Methead May 13 2021 05:51 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

=Fman99 post_id=64108 time=1620905962 user_id=86] Appointments for kids 12-15 now available in New York state. Fgirl gets shot #1 tomorrow morning.

My boy just got shot #1. It's the most grown-up thing he's done all year, aside from shotgunning that beer last July.

Ceetar May 13 2021 05:52 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

=Methead post_id=64161 time=1620949894 user_id=61] =Fman99 post_id=64108 time=1620905962 user_id=86] Appointments for kids 12-15 now available in New York state. Fgirl gets shot #1 tomorrow morning.

My boy just got shot #1. It's the most grown-up thing he's done all year, aside from shotgunning that beer last July.






hmm...podcast guest?

Fman99 May 13 2021 06:34 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

The new advice comes with caveats. Even vaccinated individuals must cover their faces and physically distance when going to doctors, hospitals or long-term care facilities like nursing homes; when traveling by bus, plane, train or other modes of public transportation, or while in transportation hubs like airports and bus stations; and when in prisons, jails or homeless shelters. In deference to local authorities, the C.D.C. said vaccinated Americans must continue to abide by existing state, local, or tribal laws and regulations, and follow local rules for businesses and workplaces. Individuals are considered fully vaccinated two weeks after the one-dose Johnson & Johnson shot or the second dose of either Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna vaccine series. The C.D.C also emphasized that vaccines in use have also proven effective against variants of the coronavirus that are circulating in the United States. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/13/health/cdc-masks-guidance.html As a member of the original tribe, I shall continue to follow all of the tribal laws #kosher

Edgy MD May 13 2021 07:00 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

That guidance sort of throws state and local authorities to the wolves, doesn't it? If you want to enforce stricter regs in your jurisdiction, what teeth will it have if the CDC isn't backing you up?

MFS62 May 14 2021 08:01 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Not having to wear a mask for vaccinated people indoors won't start in Connecticut until next week (the 19th). Later

Willets Point May 14 2021 08:33 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Edgy MD wrote: That guidance sort of throws state and local authorities to the wolves, doesn't it? If you want to enforce stricter regs in your jurisdiction, what teeth will it have if the CDC isn't backing you up? This is going to be really shitty for front-line employees in retail, restaurants, libraries, et al who are going to be on the receiving end of tsunami of abuse. Not to mention that they will be at greater risk of being exposed to the virus since the inequitable rollout of the vaccine has still made it a challenge for low-wage workers to get the jab.

Willets Point May 14 2021 08:41 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

The timing of this CDC announcement is bad. Remember that vaccines were only available to the general public 16+ on April 19. There's a 3-week gap between Pfizer shots and 4 weeks for Moderna. Then you're supposed to wait another 2 weeks to be fully vaccinated. So it's a 5-6 week process. Assuming someone was able to navigate the labyrinthine registration process, the earliest the average American will be fully vaccinated is May 31. And of course, most people didn't get started on Day #1. And kids 12-16 just started this week. And under-12s are not vaccinated at all. They really should've held off on this until mid-June at the earliest. But hey, I guess "bipartisanship" is important even if it means having a 6th wave this summer.

Edgy MD May 14 2021 08:59 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Willets Point wrote: Edgy MD wrote: That guidance sort of throws state and local authorities to the wolves, doesn't it? If you want to enforce stricter regs in your jurisdiction, what teeth will it have if the CDC isn't backing you up? This is going to be really shitty for front-line employees in retail, restaurants, libraries, et al who are going to be on the receiving end of tsunami of abuse. Not to mention that they will be at greater risk of being exposed to the virus since the inequitable rollout of the vaccine has still made it a challenge for low-wage workers to get the jab. Yeah, that sort of the scenario I'm thinking of.

Johnny Lunchbucket May 14 2021 11:12 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Retail has been abused all year even before this seemingly foolish announcement. They basically had zero authority to enforce their own policies until now, and now have even less. We just got Lunchpail his first jab by the way. But until things really change I'm not doing any crowded events indoor or places w/o a mask

kcmets May 14 2021 11:21 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: But until things really change I'm not doing any crowded events indoor or places w/o a mask And Bingo was his name-o. Staying with what's kept me here.

Ceetar May 14 2021 11:22 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Willets Point wrote: The timing of this CDC announcement is bad. Remember that vaccines were only available to the general public 16+ on April 19. There's a 3-week gap between Pfizer shots and 4 weeks for Moderna. Then you're supposed to wait another 2 weeks to be fully vaccinated. So it's a 5-6 week process. Assuming someone was able to navigate the labyrinthine registration process, the earliest the average American will be fully vaccinated is May 31. And of course, most people didn't get started on Day #1. And kids 12-16 just started this week. And under-12s are not vaccinated at all. They really should've held off on this until mid-June at the earliest. But hey, I guess "bipartisanship" is important even if it means having a 6th wave this summer. well clearly 10 year olds need to contribute more to the economy if they want to be considered in public safety guidelines. #capitalism. Like literally every guideline and protocol America has issued on this, even just another 2 weeks would do wonders. Instead we rush every milestone and let lingering cases stick around and spread, rather than another 2 weeks where you might kill off another bunch of vectors. In my county (which obviously Covid is unaware of borders) it's probably the difference of a dinner out this summer having 300ish active Covid cases and like 30. It makes the math of taking an unvaccinated child into a restaurant with an unmasked server much friendlier. Or outdoors for that matter, where a server comes up to your table and stands there for a minute, breathing on you. I don't know if I was doing the first at all regardless, but now I'm nervous about the second too.

Willets Point May 14 2021 11:40 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

well clearly 10 year olds need to contribute more to the economy if they want to be considered in public safety guidelines. #capitalism. If I see one more article about "overly-cautious liberals" worried about their children returning to school full-time that doesn't acknowledge that children can't get vaccinated...

Ceetar May 14 2021 11:51 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Right? We haven't yet been cautious _enough_! And I see plenty of "liberals" that are generally reasonable and pro-science or whatever follow along with like indoor dining late last year because the government said 25% is allowed, meanwhile cases are still spiking from SOMEWHERE. But I know I fall on the more extreme public safety side. I'd mandate vaccines, hell, I'd have linked small business COVID relief to mandatory vaccination policies, and I'd push for mask mandates for flu outbreaks for all city subways and other crowded public-facing spaces/jobs. I'd push for education campaigns and posters for "if you feel a little sniffly in the morning, throw on a mask, your fellow commuters and coworkers will thank you!"

Willets Point May 14 2021 12:00 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

I hope masking becomes mainstream during flu season and outbreaks of things like norovirus and common colds. Not getting sick at all for the past 14 months has been really nice. I mean if people could have the attitude: "Well, I felt a bit sick but I'm feeling up to going to work now, but I'll wear a mask just in case," that would be awesome.

Willets Point May 14 2021 12:05 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

The fact that schools let out for summer in June is another reason the CDC should've just waited a month. Why have the last month of school be a time of mixed messages, confusion, and inconsistency when they can just relax the protocols after school's out for summer?

batmagadanleadoff May 14 2021 12:06 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

=Ceetar post_id=64197 time=1621014694 user_id=102] But I know I fall on the more extreme public safety side. I'd mandate vaccines....

There's a US Supreme Court case that might be about 100 years old but is still good law because it hasn't been overruled holding that the Gov't can force citizens to get vaccinated in health emergencies. I'm going by memory here. I think the case originated from Boston, or if not Boston, then Massachusetts.



Wonder what would happen if some Gov't agency or official tried to enforce that law today, in these times?

batmagadanleadoff May 14 2021 12:09 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 14 2021 12:12 PM

Willets Point wrote: I hope masking becomes mainstream during flu season and outbreaks of things like norovirus and common colds. Not getting sick at all for the past 14 months has been really nice. I mean if people could have the attitude: "Well, I felt a bit sick but I'm feeling up to going to work now, but I'll wear a mask just in case," that would be awesome. I'm thinking about continuing to wear a mask even after my vaccine "kicks in". There's a considerable belief in the medical community that covid, like the regular flu, will never be permanently eradicated and that the best case scenario going forward is for there to be what they are calling "a tolerable number of covid deaths every year". This is so mainly because covid will continue to mutate and the vaccines probably won't confer immunity for more than a year or two.

Willets Point May 14 2021 12:12 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Willets Point wrote: I hope masking becomes mainstream during flu season and outbreaks of things like norovirus and common colds. Not getting sick at all for the past 14 months has been really nice. I mean if people could have the attitude: "Well, I felt a bit sick but I'm feeling up to going to work now, but I'll wear a mask just in case," that would be awesome. I'm thinking about continuing to wear a mask even after my vaccine "kicks in". There's a considerable belief in the medical community that covid, like the regular flu, will never be permanently eradicated and that the best case scenario going forward is for there to be what they are calling a tolerable number of covid deaths every year. That's how the flu has been treated for 80 years. Lots of people still die from the flu which is why the GOP saying "it's just the flu!" is very telling. Anyway, masking during flu season and COVID season seems like a good idea. I expect there will be annual COVID shots too.

Ceetar May 14 2021 12:32 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

There were experts that nailed it exactly, that we'd get to this point and there would be so many mutations and variations that we'd have to get a regular booster like the flu. They mostly seemed to be shouted down or drowned out/ignored. Those people should now be promoted, hired, put in charge, but I'm sure they won't be.

Ceetar May 14 2021 12:50 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

There's a US Supreme Court case that might be about 100 years old but is still good law because it hasn't been overruled holding that the Gov't can force citizens to get vaccinated in health emergencies. I'm going by memory here. I think the case originated from Boston, or if not Boston, then Massachusetts. Wonder what would happen if some Gov't agency or official tried to enforce that law today, in these times? [url]https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/on-this-day-the-supreme-court-rules-on-vaccines-and-public-health 1905. Jacobson v. Massachussetts. Get the Smallpox vaccine or pay $5 fine. Jacobson's main argument was that “compulsion to introduce disease into a healthy system is a violation of liberty.” which isn't how vaccines work today so that argument wouldn't even fly. followups: re vaccinations for school "Zucht v. King, Justice Louis Brandeis and a unanimous court held that Jacobson “settled that it is within the police power of a state to provide for compulsory vaccination” and the case and others “also settled that a state may, consistently with the federal Constitution, delegate to a municipality authority to determine under what conditions health regulations shall become operative.” and as recently as 2002 (this was a federal district court) " declined to find a exemption to mandatory vaccinations laws for “sincerely held religious beliefs” " There is some nuance, since the vaccines are currently only under EUA, but there's still an interpretation that allows that, though I"m sure it'd be fought and delayed which might make it moot, for THIS pandemic anyway.

MFS62 May 14 2021 04:35 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

So far, the only major store chain to say you don't have to wear a mask is Trader Joe's. If all their stores are like the one near me, that's nuts! It is small, and has the narrowest aisles of any food store in the area, so folks passing each other are thisclose. I don't go there often, but it will be less and less for a while. Later

batmagadanleadoff May 14 2021 04:47 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

So far, the only major store chain to say you don't have to wear a mask is Trader Joe's. If all their stores are like the one near me, that's nuts! It is small, and has the narrowest aisles of any food store in the area, so folks passing each other are thisclose. I don't go there often, but it will be less and less for a while. Later Walmart, Trader Joe's and Costco say vaccinated customers don't have to wear masks in stores https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/14/business/trader-joes-mask-guidance/index.html

MFS62 May 14 2021 05:28 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/14/business/trader-joes-mask-guidance/index.html That report is stamped 6:12 PM, later than the report I heard. Later

The Hot Corner May 14 2021 08:51 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

My question is, how do you tell who has truly been vaccinated and who is simply claiming to have been vaccinated. The honor system doesn't work for me. I know doctors offices are one of the exemptions in the new CDC pronouncement, but we had already decided that we would continue our policy of no shirt, no shoes, no mask, no service. No excuses and no exceptions. I expect that a significant number of the people that will be running around without masks will be the anti-mask, anti-vaccination crowd.

Double Switch May 14 2021 11:02 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

We have Trader Joe's here but I have never acquired the habit. I prefer my mask in public. In my area, I seem to be mainstream. I seldom see anyone without a mask even outdoors except if they are eating or smoking. The other thing, we'll be back in standard flu season in a few months so I don't plan to lose my mask collection. Not getting flu or colds or other respiratory ailments has been a welcome side effect of COVID19 avoidance and I value that benefit. As for trusting people who claim to be vaxxed, nah. I don't know you and I don't have a single reason to trust you. I don't want to see your face. Not anytime soon.

kcmets May 15 2021 01:04 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

The CDC thing is young, but I went to Wal-ly World, Costco, Shoprite, a smaller market and a con- venience store today and everyone was masked. There's hope, at least around here, that people aren't gonna think it's all over and will be responsible.

batmagadanleadoff May 15 2021 01:08 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

State law is supposed to trump CDC guidance. New CDC guidance won't end NY mask mandate yet, Cuomo says https://www.lohud.com/story/news/coronavirus/2021/05/13/cdc-guidance-mask-mandate-new-york-cuomo/5081053001/

LWFS May 15 2021 02:34 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

=kcmets post_id=64321 time=1621105454 user_id=53] The CDC thing is young, but I went to Wal-ly World, Costco, Shoprite, a smaller market and a con- venience store today and everyone was masked. There's hope, at least around here, that people aren't gonna think it's all over and will be responsible.

Same thing wherever I've been over the last few days in NYC and north NJ

Frayed Knot May 15 2021 04:08 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Gary mentioned during the game telecast today that the Mets are "nowhere near" the 85% vaccinated threshold which would allow them to loosen certain protocols in the dugout and clubhouse. WTF Dudes?!?!

Fman99 May 15 2021 08:57 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Frayed Knot wrote: Gary mentioned during the game telecast today that the Mets are "nowhere near" the 85% vaccinated threshold which would allow them to loosen certain protocols in the dugout and clubhouse. WTF Dudes?!?! How many of these dudes are red state hayseeds? Forgive me for over simplifying, I assume anyone not getting a vaccine is just drinking the dumb-ass Kool Aid

Frayed Knot May 16 2021 05:09 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

=Fman99 post_id=64349 time=1621133840 user_id=86]... I assume anyone not getting a vaccine is just drinking the dumb-ass Kool Aid

Some maybe, but not all.

I've mentioned before that I've talked to people who are definitely not part of the tinfoil hat crowd who think this is the government's attempt to inject them with Hillary's DNA or Bill Gates

putting a chip in their brain, but are still taking a wait and see approach. They think the whole process was rushed, or they claim to want to see if there are adverse effects on those they

know who are getting them, or they just feel young and invulnerable and don't want to trade the no effects they have now for potential side effects of getting the shot. Or maybe they're

just fraidy-scared of needles are are making up excuses, I dunno.



The one thing about these ballplayers is that they almost certainly had access to vaccines as soon or sooner than most availability can't be the reason, and you'd assume that there'd be

a degree of peer pressure from the guys they're working, traveling and practically living with to get this done and not risk having their schedule all messed up by a few positives, even

asymptomatic ones. I wonder what advice, if any, the Player's Union is giving them on this. Sometimes simply the act of the teams telling players that this is the right thing to do acts

as a trigger for the union to tell them to do the opposite. On the other hand, there are teams that have passed the 85% mark including even the Yanx who had their own mini-outbreak

this week, though mostly involving non-players.

MFS62 May 16 2021 06:37 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Stupid problems require stupid solutions. Don't tell anti-maskers that the mask stops COVID-19. Tell them that it stops facial recognition software used by the 5G Federal Government Skynet from tracking you. And tell them their tinfoil hat short circuits the chip in the vaccine. Later

kcmets May 16 2021 09:43 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Dollaresque store had Dr. Fauci votive candles for sale this morning. This country is off the hook. It can't even see the hook.

batmagadanleadoff May 18 2021 03:03 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

There are millions of immunocompromised Americans for whom covid vaccines might not work at all. Coronavirus vaccines may not work in some people. It's because of their underlying conditions. Excerpt: The state worker is among millions of immunocompromised Americans, about 3 to 4 percent of the U.S. population, for whom the shots may not work fully, or at all, and who are unsure of their place in a country that is increasingly opening up. Emerging research shows that 15 to 80 percent of those with certain conditions, such as specific blood cancers or who have had organ transplants, are generating few antibodies. [***] Vaccine makers excluded immunocompromised people from their clinical trials in an understandable rush to develop a way to protect as many people as quickly as possible. As a result, there's limited information about how this group is reacting to the shots, as well as to the loosening of Centers for Disease Control and Prevention restrictions. The ability of such patients to fend off the novel coronavirus is not just a footnote in the pandemic involving one unlucky group — but potentially a critical part of the narrative about how new, more contagious variants are continuing to emerge worldwide. https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/05/18/immunocompromised-coronavirus-vaccines-response/

Frayed Knot May 24 2021 04:38 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

So how is it that there were 15K fans in MSG on Sunday but outdoor baseball in NYC is still limited to, what, 25%?

nymr83 May 24 2021 05:21 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=64602 time=1621371788 user_id=68] There are millions of immunocompromised Americans for whom covid vaccines might not work at all.

Hardly a problem if everyone would get vaccinated. There are always people who can't get a vaccine or who it wouldn't work on. We keep them safe by getting everyone else vaccinated to end the spread.



We should be applying the pressure. You can't force people to get vaccinated. But you could make the standard deduction $0 with a [insert current deduction] tax credit for being vaccinated. and many other such similar tricks.

Ceetar May 24 2021 08:50 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

=nymr83 post_id=65375 time=1621898491 user_id=54] =batmagadanleadoff post_id=64602 time=1621371788 user_id=68] There are millions of immunocompromised Americans for whom covid vaccines might not work at all.

Hardly a problem if everyone would get vaccinated. There are always people who can't get a vaccine or who it wouldn't work on. We keep them safe by getting everyone else vaccinated to end the spread.



We should be applying the pressure. You can't force people to get vaccinated. But you could make the standard deduction $0 with a [insert current deduction] tax credit for being vaccinated. and many other such similar tricks.


well, you _could_ almost force people to get it. that's help.





You could also slow the reopening, in any of the stages since April, so that cases actually drop significantly before loosening restrictions, so that the potential exposure a compromised or 10 year old person might face is significantly lessened. It's constantly infuriating that we've done the bare minimum.

MFS62 May 24 2021 08:52 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

As we might have suspected, the smarter you are, the more likely to get vaccinated, And the less smart - not. From the NY Daily News (via AOL.) A Daily News analysis of vaccination data and IQ averages in each state reveals that five of the 10 states with the lowest IQs are also among the 10 states with the lowest rates of fully vaccinated adults. And half of the 10 smartest states rank among the 10 most vaccinated ones. https://www.aol.com/news/state-both-country-lowest-vaccination-204232237.html Later

kcmets May 24 2021 09:00 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

As we might have suspected, the smarter you are, the more likely to get vaccinated, And the less smart - not. From the NY Daily News (via AOL.) A Daily News analysis of vaccination data and IQ averages in each state reveals that five of the 10 states with the lowest IQs are also among the 10 states with the lowest rates of fully vaccinated adults. And half of the 10 smartest states rank among the 10 most vaccinated ones. https://www.aol.com/news/state-both-country-lowest-vaccination-204232237.html Later I'm not clicking on an aol link, but geez do they really suggest there are high IQ and low IQ states? Has anyone here had their IQ measured by their state of residence?

batmagadanleadoff May 25 2021 03:41 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

=kcmets post_id=65430 time=1621911646 user_id=53] I'm not clicking on an aol link, but geez do they really suggest there are high IQ and low IQ states?

Yes. Here's how it works: those states whose residents have, on average, the highest IQ's, are deemed the highest IQ states. Those states whose residents have , on average, the lowest IQ's, are deemed the lowest IQ states.



Also, those states that have, on average, the highest temperatures year-round are deemed to be the warmest states in the nation.



And those states that have the most highways are deemed to be the states that have the most highways

Ceetar May 25 2021 06:44 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

It's actually a daily news article, but it's complete and utter nonsense. It's "premise" is that education isn't a good enough measure of intelligence, (even though education and vaccination rate seem to correlate) and tries to find a better way to see if intelligence and vaccination rate are linked... ..but goes by IQ which is racially biased, and mostly bunk as a way of measuring intelligence. It's just some random test somebody came up with a century ago. And then it uses data from 2006 to rank states! And then has to get fuzzy with the numbers to even correlate them subjectively. There are no graphs, there are no R factors, there's no statistics. It's just lists where some of the same states appear in a generous grouping of top and bottom states.

nymr83 May 25 2021 07:45 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

So, basically, its exactly what you'd expect a Daily News article to be - useless.

kcmets May 25 2021 09:44 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=65432 time=1621935708 user_id=68]Yes. Here's how it works: those states whose residents have, on average, the highest IQ's, are deemed the highest IQ states. Those states whose residents have , on average, the lowest IQ's, are deemed the lowest IQ states. Also, those states that have, on average, the highest temperatures year-round are deemed to be the warmest states in the nation. And those states that have the most highways are deemed to be the states that have the most highways

Temperatures and number of highways are things that can be counted.



Has anyone here had their IQ measured by their state of residence? I highly doubt it.



Condescending smartass.

batmagadanleadoff May 25 2021 10:13 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Yes. Here's how it works: those states whose residents have, on average, the highest IQ's, are deemed the highest IQ states. Those states whose residents have , on average, the lowest IQ's, are deemed the lowest IQ states. Also, those states that have, on average, the highest temperatures year-round are deemed to be the warmest states in the nation. And those states that have the most highways are deemed to be the states that have the most highways Temperatures and number of highways are things that can be counted. So are IQ's. What are you saying? That IQ's can't be added up? Or averaged? Or even counted? Condescending smartass. You should at least win the argument before you take a victory lap by heaping a personal insult on me. https://worldpopulationreview.com/en/state-rankings/average-iq-by-state https://www.zippia.com/advice/average-iq-by-state/

kcmets May 25 2021 11:20 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Not arguing or taking laps.

kcmets May 25 2021 11:23 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

And I could insult you once a day for the rest of the year and you'd still be ahead.

kcmets May 25 2021 01:15 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Anyone have the NYS Excelsior Pass app thingy on their phones yet. My CDC card has already taken a pocket beating and the phone thing seems more logical these days.

Ceetar May 25 2021 01:17 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

not in NYS, but I just showed the Citi Field folks a picture of my card to get in.

kcmets May 25 2021 01:31 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

I installed it, took seven minutes (but slow and blind these days) on the phone. God knows what I agreed to disclaimer wise 'cause I wasn't sifting through all that. Bottom line, it works.

kcmets May 25 2021 02:51 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Forgot to say, a picture of it on phone is a good idea too.

MFS62 Jun 16 2021 08:21 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

No lockdowns anymore. https://youtu.be/v7TarriXFME Later

Ceetar Jun 16 2021 08:50 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

of course not, we don't care about kids they don't contribute to the economy.

kcmets Jun 16 2021 09:01 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

https://youtu.be/v7TarriXFME Worst three minutes of my life this month so far. Hard to get through it, but I battled... Sooner

Fman99 Jun 18 2021 09:11 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Fgirl now 14 days after her second shot, meaning we're all fully protected to the level that science allows. Naturally, I have a chest cold and a lingering shortness of breath thing the last 2 days and have to go get a Covid test tomorrow. Happy that it's not more serious and hoping that it's just a non Covid thing

kcmets Jun 18 2021 09:56 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Hope it's nothing. Costello: Now who's got it? Abbott: Naturally. PAUSE Costello: Look, if I throw the ball to first base, somebody's gotta get it. Now who has it? Abbott: Naturally. Costello: Who? Abbott: Naturally. Costello: Naturally? Abbott: Naturally. Costello: So I pick up the ball and I throw it to Naturally. Abbott: No you don't, you throw the ball to Who. Costello: Naturally. Abbott: That's different. Costello: That's what I said. Abbott: You're not saying it... Costello: I throw the ball to Naturally. Abbott: You throw it to Who. Costello: Naturally. Abbott: That's it. Costello: That's what I said! Abbott: You ask me. Costello: I throw the ball to who? Abbott: Naturally. Costello: Now you ask me. Abbott: You throw the ball to Who? Costello: Naturally. Abbott: That's it.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 25 2021 09:07 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Booster may be needed for J&J shot as Delta variant spreads, some experts already taking them Excerpt: NEW YORK (Reuters) - Infectious disease experts are weighing the need for booster shots of the Pfizer/BioNTech or Moderna mRNA-based vaccines for Americans who received Johnson & Johnson's one-dose vaccine due to the increasing prevalence of the more contagious Delta coronavirus variant. A few say they have already done so themselves, even without published data on whether combining two different vaccines is safe and effective or backing from U.S. health regulators. Canada and some European countries are already allowing people to get two different COVID-19 shots. The debate centers on concerns over how protective the J&J shot is against the Delta variant first detected in India and now circulating widely in many countries. Delta, which has also been associated with more severe disease, could quickly become the dominant version of the virus in the United States, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) Director Rochelle Walensky has warned. There is no substantial data showing how protective the J&J vaccine is against the new variant. However, UK studies show that two doses of either the Pfizer/BioNTech or AstraZeneca vaccines are significantly more protective against the variant than one. https://www.aol.com/news/booster-may-needed-j-j-235420571-014426860.html

Ceetar Jun 25 2021 09:27 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

seems like boosters all around. I just hope we figure out the optimal time without having to have a viscous outbreak and being like "oh, guess we shoot boost immunity now.."

Fman99 Jun 26 2021 04:56 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

I had a negative Covid test last weekend, for the record. It's just allergies methinks.

duan Jun 28 2021 08:26 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

So FWIW - on Sunday i'll be getting my second Pfizer jab. We're down to people in their late 30s getting their first one now - it'll be a while before we finish it out but the best news it seems we are getting about 90% take up among the eligble population - this will inevitably slip a little in the 20s and teens but there really is broad take up. The big problem is trying to get the 20s and 30s done fast before the 'delta variant' has the potential to skew things badly- we're already potentially seeing the need to pause the re-opening of hospitality as in 3 weeks time you'll have another big chunk of the population fully vaccinated. This thing is a long way from over yet ...

Edgy MD Jun 28 2021 08:39 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Yeah, I'm probably going to get a booster for my J&J as some degree of delta insurance. The terrible bit is that the state of India would be front-page news here and all over the world, except we're so desperate for any but the happiest of COVID news now, that the tragedies of India barely gets a shrug. And the delta variant has weakened their defense posture so they're scrambling to send tens of thousands of troops to the Chinese border, and in a vicious cycle, that's likely to create more hot spots for the variant.

Lefty Specialist Jun 29 2021 06:51 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

seems like boosters all around. I just hope we figure out the optimal time without having to have a viscous outbreak and being like "oh, guess we shoot boost immunity now.." Looks like Pfizer and Moderna confer longer-term immunity, and booster shots may not be needed. Also seems to fight the Delta variant. J & J may be a diferent story as it's a different kind of vaccine. Going to see a couple of my wife's relatives in their late 80's this weekend for the first time in 18 months. They've been living it up since their shots and good for them.

kcmets Jun 29 2021 12:37 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

KB's niece in No Cali is a registered nurse and has been vaccinated for quite some time. She had a 'cold' for a few days. The family all went out to celebrate the anniversary of KB's sister's birthday over the weekend. Then she just tested positive. Five adults, six kids, waitstaff and whatever all exposed to a vax'd person who still got sick. Shit's not over by any stretch, hope people don't get too crazy this holiday weekend. I miss swapping spit with strangers at bbq's but not this year. Not yet.

Benjamin Grimm Jun 29 2021 02:24 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Do you know which vaccine she got?

kcmets Jun 29 2021 02:46 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Moderna, 2nd dose in January.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 29 2021 11:10 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Delta variant?

kcmets Jun 30 2021 08:29 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Not Delta, just 'regular.' They're all doing their quarantine thing and I guess they won't be tested until Fri/Sat due to waiting period.

Lefty Specialist Jun 30 2021 11:33 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

The important thing is that she had a "cold" and not a "trip to the hospital and a ventilator". The vaccine doesn't stop the virus completely, but it does stop those consequences virtually completely.

Lefty Specialist Jun 30 2021 11:41 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

A friend was going in for back surgery and one of the things he had to do before being admitted was get a COVID test. He tested positive. He was fully vaccinated and had absolutely no symptoms, not even a raised temperature. They tested him again to make sure and he was still positive. So his surgery was put off, which makes him unhappy but he's happy he didn't test positive a year ago.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 30 2021 12:06 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Lefty Specialist wrote: The vaccine doesn't stop the virus completely, but it does stop those consequences virtually completely. The J&J vaccine, alone, doesn't seem to "virtually completely" stop the Delta variant.

Edgy MD Jun 30 2021 12:09 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Lefty Specialist wrote: The important thing is that she had a "cold" and not a "trip to the hospital and a ventilator". The vaccine doesn't stop the virus completely, but it does stop those consequences virtually completely. It's certainly an important thing for her, but it's not necessarily the most important piece of information for us as a society.

kcmets Jun 30 2021 12:12 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Our niece and your friend are the first I've heard of vax'd people getting COVID. It's not something that MSNBC or CNN is in any rush to report even if it's common or some- what common. I'm worried about the six kids exposed to it because what she got didn't care whether she was vax'd or not. Please don't judge my fears.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 30 2021 12:13 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Edgy MD wrote: Lefty Specialist wrote: The important thing is that she had a "cold" and not a "trip to the hospital and a ventilator". The vaccine doesn't stop the virus completely, but it does stop those consequences virtually completely. It's certainly an important thing for her, but it's not necessarily the most important piece of information for us as a society. Agreed. It goes without saying that everybody's better off vaccinated. But I'm still wearing masks, vaccine notwithstanding.

kcmets Jun 30 2021 12:19 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

We still mask up in stores and in restaurants until seated. I've noticed over the last two weeks the masked numbers are dropping quite noticeably and some people look at me like I'm a jerk for wearing one.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 30 2021 12:24 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Our niece and your friend are the first I've heard of vax'd people getting COVID. It's not something that MSNBC or CNN is in any rush to report even if it's common or some- what common. I'm worried about the six kids exposed to it because what she got didn't care whether she was vax'd or not. Please don't judge my fears. It's been reported for over a month. CDC says roughly 4,100 people have been hospitalized or died with Covid breakthrough infections after vaccination https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/25/covid-breakthrough-cases-cdc-says-more-than-4100-people-have-been-hospitalized-or-died-after-vaccination.html

kcmets Jun 30 2021 12:28 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Just got a text that niece's hubby and all three kids have tested positive.

Edgy MD Jun 30 2021 12:35 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

fux.

kcmets Jun 30 2021 12:35 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

The elderly father and the others have to wait a few more days before testing.

Benjamin Grimm Jun 30 2021 01:12 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Were the kids vaccinated? I've read of cases where vaccinated parents get the virus from their unvaccinated kids. Most vaccinated people who become infected do so because they've gotten a fairly large viral load, as a parent might from living in the house, maskless, with kids who are always around. That may not be the case here, of course.

kcmets Jun 30 2021 01:39 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Imagine they all were, everyone must be over 12 by now and the two moms are both proactive types. We'll find out.

Willets Point Jul 01 2021 09:17 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

As I've assumed, the biggest barrier to vaccination is not antivaxers but working class people worried about losing their jobs if they miss time due to side effects. To increase vaccination rates among essential workers, we need better paid sick leave laws. Nearly half of adults in the United States who have not received a coronavirus vaccine are concerned about missing work as a result of side effects from the shot; this concern is even greater among Black and Latinx adults. Last year, around 25 percent of all private-sector workers (and a much greater number of the lowest-wage earners) had no paid sick leave. Laudably, some jurisdictions have passed laws requiring paid leave for the vaccine; for example, New York State requires employers to provide up to four hours of leave per shot for this purpose, and Chicago has similar rules, although limited to employers that mandate vaccines. These laws are a good start, but to fully remove this barrier, workers need paid leave not just for the shot itself but also for side effects. - There's a Way to Get More People Vaccinated—and It Doesn't Involve the Lottery

batmagadanleadoff Jul 02 2021 09:55 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Lefty Specialist wrote: The vaccine doesn't stop the virus completely, but it does stop those consequences virtually completely. The J&J vaccine, alone, doesn't seem to "virtually completely" stop the Delta variant. __________ Finally, Experts Break the Silence on J.&J. Boosters By Michelle Goldberg Opinion Columnist Early last month, I got my third Covid vaccine shot. I now realize this was overkill and I'm fairly embarrassed about it, but at the time I felt like I was operating in an information vacuum. Let me explain. As I've written before, I participated in the Johnson & Johnson vaccine trial. Even though I initially got the placebo, the study offered me the opportunity to get the real thing weeks before I'd have otherwise been eligible, and I gratefully accepted. At the time, public health authorities were telling everyone to take the first shot you could get. I'm still glad I followed this advice; after gutting out the worst year of my life, I was terrified of getting Covid right on the brink of vaccine salvation. But then things started to go wrong for J.&J. At the end of March, news broke of problems at the Baltimore plant manufacturing the vaccine, and up to 15 million contaminated doses had to be scrapped. (Eventually around 60 million doses were thrown away.) In mid-April federal authorities called for a pause on the use of J.&J. shots because, in very rare cases, they were linked to a blood-clotting disorder. By then, I'd had my vaccine for a month. But I was anxious about what the problems with J.&J. meant for boosters. When I got my inoculation, I knew the company was testing a two-dose regimen, and I thought it was likely that I'd end up getting a second Johnson & Johnson shot. Suddenly that seemed unclear. In the following weeks, my uncertainty only grew. Because J.&J. has made up only a small fraction of vaccinations, there's been a paucity of information about how it's performed in the real world. In May, for example, when the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said that vaccinated people don't have to wear masks indoors, it was primarily based on findings that the mRNA vaccines — those manufactured by Pfizer and Moderna — inhibit transmission. I had no intention of living my life more cautiously than people who'd got the mRNA shots, but I hated feeling like I was more vulnerable than them. So in May, with vaccines plentiful where I live, I went to a nearby clinic and got a Pfizer shot. At that point, I reasoned, European countries were already combining the AstraZeneca vaccine, which uses roughly the same mechanism as J.&J., with mRNA shots. A British study found no danger from mixing doses aside from increased side effects. And a Spanish study showed that when the AstraZeneca shot was followed by Pfizer, it seemed to trigger a more potent immune response than two doses of AstraZeneca did. No one at the clinic asked if I'd already been vaccinated. Still, I felt that I was doing something sneaky and disreputable, and not just because it's unfair that Americans have such a glut of doses. In general, I don't think people like me, with no medical expertise whatsoever, should ignore expert guidance on vaccines because “I've done my own research” on the internet. But the experts weren't telling people who'd gotten J.&J. much of anything. I reached out to a couple of high-profile physicians and scientists, but they didn't answer me, perhaps out of reluctance to provide untested medical advice. Some other people were quietly doing the same thing I had. Right after getting the Pfizer shot, I called the J.&J. trial to confess, in case the people running it needed me to drop out. The person I spoke to said that while it wasn't ideal, I should keep participating, and that I wasn't the only volunteer who'd gone out and gotten a second vaccine. The evidentiary void around J.&J. seemed to grow more frightening with the spread of the Delta variant. Previously, data from Britain had shown that a single dose of either Pfizer or AstraZeneca provided pretty good protection against Covid infection. With Delta, single-dose protection went way down, to around 35 percent. For weeks, no one knew what that meant for the J.&J. vaccine. Angela Rasmussen, a virologist at the Vaccine and Infectious Disease Organization at the University of Saskatchewan, had the Johnson & Johnson shot, and has been hearing from people who'd also gotten it and were scared. “I really don't blame people — they keep hearing all this stuff about two shots, two shots, Delta, you need to be fully vaccinated,” she told me earlier this week. “And nobody's really saying anything about Johnson & Johnson.” Many people, she said, “feel that they've been left behind because there really isn't any new information coming out about it.” On June 21, Rasmussen decided to get a Pfizer booster. At around the same time, Michael Z. Lin, a neurobiologist and bioengineer at Stanford, wrote a Twitter thread arguing that the C.D.C. should issue guidance on mRNA boosters for people who'd received J.&J. A couple of days later, Andy Slavitt, until recently a senior adviser to Joe Biden's pandemic response team, put out an episode of his podcast titled, “The Delta Variant Question No One Will Answer,” addressing those who'd received Johnson & Johnson and were wondering about getting another shot. He was equivocal: either wait for the data, or “go ahead and take a Pfizer or Moderna shot.” I wish I'd heard these voices earlier, because by then I'd already gotten two Pfizer shots. When the clinic scheduled my second appointment, I wasn't sure whether to return for it. I'm still not sure why I did. Mostly, at a time when no one was talking about J.&J. boosters, I didn't want to be an anomaly. I wanted the full Pfizer course because I didn't want to worry about whether new findings about mRNA effectiveness against the variants applied to me. Nothing bad happened, but the experts I spoke to said the third shot was unnecessary, and that there's a point after which too much immune stimulation can be harmful. “There's no pressing reason to go beyond a single RNA booster,” Lin told me. Indeed, there may be no reason to get a booster at all. On Thursday evening, with discussion of boosting J.&J. all over the media, Johnson & Johnson released data showing that its vaccine retains most of its effectiveness against the Delta variant. “Booster shots seem unnecessary, at least for now,” The New York Times reported. The news from Johnson & Johnson didn't change Lin's thinking. As he sees it, even before the Delta variant, J.&J. wasn't as effective as the mRNA vaccines, which makes him apprehensive about breakthrough infections. And because Delta is more transmissible than previous variants, those who do have breakthrough infections could be more likely to infect others. No one I spoke to had any second thoughts about the message, during the early part of the vaccine rollout, to take the first shot you can get. When vaccines were in short supply and the virus was surging, it made sense. But now that mRNA vaccines are abundant in this country, the situation has changed. It would be nice to have guidance on this from the C.D.C., but we shouldn't expect it anytime soon. In the absence of data, Slavitt said, it would be irresponsible for the C.D.C. to make a recommendation. “People want the science to tell us exactly what to do,” Slavitt said. “When we say, ‘Follow the science,' the reality is the science doesn't always know.” So as with many other aspects of this pandemic, people have to figure things out for themselves. Slavitt said one of his sons was vaccinated with Johnson & Johnson and is planning to get an mRNA booster. But, he adds, people who do the same should know they're doing it at their own risk. The need to make decisions with imperfect information “isn't uncommon, particularly in a situation where you've got a novel virus,” said Slavitt. “Eventually, that answer will be known. Of course, people don't like to be in the uncomfortable zone before we know the answer.” I'm glad that people with expertise are finally weighing in. I just wish this conversation had gone public a few weeks sooner. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/02/opinion/vaccines-johnson-pfizer-moderna.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

Ceetar Jul 03 2021 06:58 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

so..in a panic, this woman basically messed up clinical trial data, ignored guidance, and seemingly unironically notes that it would be irresponsible for science to guess what you should do prior to data, data which she helped muddy. Oh, and then the NY Times let her publish this for some reason? what drivel.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 03 2021 12:43 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

=Ceetar post_id=70012 time=1625317101 user_id=102] so..in a panic, this woman basically messed up clinical trial data, ignored guidance, and seemingly unironically notes that it would be irresponsible for science to guess what you should do prior to data, data which she helped muddy. Oh, and then the NY Times let her publish this for some reason? what drivel.

Michelle Goldberg is a regular Op-Ed contributor to the New York Times - a writer and Pulitzer prize winner. She's also a regular on MSNBC and probably other cable TV News channels that I don't watch so regularly. I don't think she goes more than a day or two without appearing on some MSNBC show or other, if even that much.



FWIW, and I don't really know how much worth, she was in the placebo part of the J&J trials.



As a recipient of the J&J vaccine myself, I could really appreciate her piece, even if in the end, I'm not so sure that she provided any solid advice, at least to my liking. I had been poring over the news for the past six weeks on an almost daily basis, searching for new and updated info on the efficacy of the J&J, particularly against the Delta variant. And I can tell you from personal experience, that the info and data was not coming. Personally, I still don't feel as safe as I think I should feel by now, notwithstanding, as I already mentioned, having received a J&J vaccine.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 14 2021 02:34 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Is Trump the root cause of all of this anti-vaccination hysteria sweeping the red states? Because if it is, the man is evil incarnate, but even more so than I already understood him to be. And the thing of it is, he was covid vaccinated. Not only that, but he caught a dose of covid-19 so severe that it would've definitely killed him if he wasn't the president of the USA with access to all kinds of medical care that practically nobody else had access to. COVID Is Looking Like a Permanent Feature in the Anti-Vaccination Belt Tennessee is becoming a harbinger of the dark future. We are voting ourselves back into the dark ages, and there doesn't seem to be anyway to stop it. From the Tennesseean: The Tennessee Department of Health will halt all adolescent vaccine outreach – not just for coronavirus, but all diseases – amid pressure from Republican state lawmakers, according to an internal report and agency emails obtained by the Tennessean. If the health department must issue any information about vaccines, staff are instructed to strip the agency logo off the documents. The health department will also stop all COVID-19 vaccine events on school property, despite holding at least one such event this month. The decisions to end vaccine outreach and school events come directly from Health Commissioner Dr. Lisa Piercey, the internal report states. Not just COVID, mind you, even though the pandemic is spiking again in Tennessee, as it is everywhere in the Anti-Vaccination Belt, but all vaccine outreach for every communicable disease. This new madness has already cost the state one important public health official. After the health department's internal COVID-19 report was circulated on Friday, the rollback of vaccine outreach was further detailed in a Monday email from agency Chief Medical Officer Dr. Tim Jones. Jones told staff they should conduct "no proactive outreach regarding routine vaccines" and "no outreach whatsoever regarding the HPV vaccine." Staff were also told not to do any "pre-planning" for flu shots events at schools. Any information released about back-to-school vaccinations should come from the Tennessee Department of Education, not the Tennessee Department of Health, Jones wrote. "Any kinds of informational sheets or other materials that we make available for dissemination should have the TDH logo removed," Jones wrote. Michelle Fiscus was the state's top immunization official until she was forced to resign under pressure from Republicans in the state legislature who have the prion disease at a virulent level. Fiscus went out fighting. From the Tennessean: I am ashamed of them. I am afraid for my state. I am angry for the amazing people of the Tennessee Department of Health who have been mistreated by an uneducated public and leaders who have only their own interests in mind. And I am deeply saddened for the people of Tennessee, who will continue to become sick and die from this vaccine-preventable disease because they choose to listen to the nonsense spread by ignorant people. She's not kidding, either. Look at this jamoke. Lawmakers accused the agency of attempting to circumvent parents and peer pressure minors to be vaccinated, then discussed dissolving the entire health department to stop its vaccine advertisements. Department leaders are scheduled to reappear before the same group of lawmakers for more questioning on July 21. “I have never said that I want to dissolve and reconstitute the Department of Health,” said Rep. Scott Cepicky, R-Culleoka, who proposed ending the agency on June 16. "What I said is, when we come back next month, I want that as a consideration.” This guy is implying that he would rather consider the elimination of the state's department of health than agree that Tennessee's teenagers should be vaccinated against the virus fueling a worldwide pandemic. I guarantee you this will spread to other states with Republican majorities in their legislatures, and we'll end up with outbreaks of rubella, HPV, and god knows what else on top of the COVID pandemic, which, in many places, is going to be a permanent feature. And all this makes far too much sense to far too many people. https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a37015792/tennessee-vaccines-minors-department-of-health/

Ceetar Jul 14 2021 02:43 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

I think they're probably both related symptoms of the same fascist anti-science nonsense that the party has been running with for a while. It's a coordinated effort to keep the population subdued, distracted, and uneducated. trump was just good at presenting a face to that. The asshole saying all the stupid things and venting all their anger. He validates all that other stuff, which is why the fascists like him. Mitch can put out a plan of action, and know that trump would whip it into a talking point of contention. As long as there is always a bogeyman, they don't have to stop and think. Worked for Bush too. Not like "The muslims are gonna kill us all, we gotta finish this war i started!" racism is much different than what trump used.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 21 2021 12:33 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

A new study suggests that the Johnson & Johnson vaccine is not as effective against the Delta variant as the MRNA Pfizer and Moderna vaccines. Many experts are now stating that J&J recipients, especially older people and/ or those with underlying co-morbidiites, should receive an MRNA vaccine booster shot, which is not the official CDC policy, yet. Study suggests Johnson & Johnson vaccine less effective against Delta variant https://nypost.com/2021/07/21/johnson-johnson-covid-19-vaccine-less-effective-against-delta-variant-study-suggests/ https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/20/health/coronavirus-johnson-vaccine-delta.html Excerpt: The coronavirus vaccine made by Johnson & Johnson is much less effective against the Delta and Lambda variants than against the original virus, according to a new study posted online on Tuesday. Although troubling, the findings result from experiments conducted with blood samples in a laboratory, and may not reflect the vaccine's performance in the real world. But the conclusions add to evidence that the 13 million people inoculated with the J.&J. vaccine may need to receive a second dose — ideally of one of the mRNA vaccines made by Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna, the authors said. The conclusions are at odds with those from smaller studies published by Johnson & Johnson earlier this month suggesting that a single dose of the vaccine is effective against the variant even eight months after inoculation.

Frayed Knot Jul 21 2021 03:35 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

On the other hand, the Robert Johnson & Johnson vaccine has been rules to be quite effective against the delta blues variant of the virus.

Willets Point Jul 21 2021 07:39 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

The Yankees received J&J didn't they? That could be why they're having breakthrough cases.

kcmets Jul 21 2021 08:24 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

KB is on her way home from work (they kicked her out lol) and stopping by an urgent care joint for a COVID test. We're both pfully pfizered. My temp is 98.1, which is my reptilian norm.

kcmets Jul 21 2021 09:26 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Breaker one-nine, KB is COVID negatory...

MFS62 Jul 23 2021 07:33 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Eric Clapton - anti-vaxxer: https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2021-07-23/eric-clapton-vaccination-covid-19-reaction-van-morrison Later

kcmets Jul 23 2021 07:47 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

My two-cent take, I bet Virginia is a sanctimonious bitch in real life not just in print.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 23 2021 08:13 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

=kcmets post_id=72286 time=1627048050 user_id=53] My two-cent take, I bet Virginia is a sanctimonious bitch in real life not just in print.

Why do you think that she's sanctimonious in the first place?

kcmets Jul 23 2021 08:19 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

I've already given my two cents and have no more change. Can you break a Jackson?

batmagadanleadoff Jul 23 2021 08:32 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Yes, I can.

TransMonk Jul 23 2021 12:23 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

I don't think the NFL will be fucking around with anti-vaxxers. They told teams this week that if a game was postponed due to a team having a COVID outbreak due to unvaxxed players, the team would forfeit and take a loss. Now this: [TWEET]https://twitter.com/CourtneyRCronin/status/1418628745049493508[/TWEET]

Benjamin Grimm Jul 23 2021 12:25 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Good! I read that in the case of an NFL forfeit, both teams will lose their pay for the game, not just the team with the infected players. I hope that's not accurate. It doesn't seem at all fair.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 25 2021 08:09 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Trump support predicts a state's vaccine refusal better than average income or education level. https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/07/vaccinated-america-breaking-point-anti-vaxxers/619539/

Edgy MD Jul 25 2021 08:15 PM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Good! I read that in the case of an NFL forfeit, both teams will lose their pay for the game, not just the team with the infected players. I hope that's not accurate. It doesn't seem at all fair. Yeah, but it's the NFL.

Lefty Specialist Jul 27 2021 08:52 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

I love it. It increases the peer pressure to get vaccinated.

Willets Point Jul 27 2021 08:58 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Edgy MD wrote: Benjamin Grimm wrote: Good! I read that in the case of an NFL forfeit, both teams will lose their pay for the game, not just the team with the infected players. I hope that's not accurate. It doesn't seem at all fair. Yeah, but it's the NFL. That would actually encourage players on both teams to organize together against management rather than the desired effect of encouraging vaccination. So the NFL would be shooting themselves in the foot if this were true.

Willets Point Jul 27 2021 09:04 AM Re: In Vaccine Thread 2021

Willets Point wrote: The timing of this CDC announcement is bad. Remember that vaccines were only available to the general public 16+ on April 19. There's a 3-week gap between Pfizer shots and 4 weeks for Moderna. Then you're supposed to wait another 2 weeks to be fully vaccinated. So it's a 5-6 week process. Assuming someone was able to navigate the labyrinthine registration process, the earliest the average American will be fully vaccinated is May 31. And of course, most people didn't get started on Day #1. And kids 12-16 just started this week. And under-12s are not vaccinated at all. They really should've held off on this until mid-June at the earliest. But hey, I guess "bipartisanship" is important even if it means having a 6th wave this summer. Kind of hate being right about this. CDC to urge vaccinated people to resume wearing masks indoors in some circumstances as delta variant spreads The recommendation would reverse guidance by the agency in May saying that vaccinated individuals did not have to wear masks indoors or out because of protection afforded by vaccines.