Forum Home

Master Index of Archived Threads


Walk This Way

Centerfield
Feb 17 2021 01:00 PM

Mets getting hot and heavy with Taijuan Walker. Per tracky on twitter.

MFS62
Feb 17 2021 01:07 PM
Re: Walk This Way

Sounds logical if they are in the market for another starter. He and Odorizzi are the two remaining decent ones still available.



Later

Benjamin Grimm
Feb 17 2021 01:10 PM
Re: Walk This Way

=Centerfield post_id=56289 time=1613592022 user_id=65]
Mets getting hot and heavy with Taijuan Walker. Per tracky on twitter.



Good! I hope they sign him and Trevor Rosenthal (and Lindor and Conforto).



That would put a nice bow on the offseason.

Johnny Lunchbucket
Feb 17 2021 01:30 PM
Re: Walk This Way

Questions about his health and strike throwing, good HR preventer, so decent starter candidate but wouldn't want to build a rotation around him

batmagadanleadoff
Feb 17 2021 01:44 PM
Re: Walk This Way

Let me see if I follow this: youse are all high on Taijuan Walker who pitched a total of 67 innings over the last three years combined but can't stop bitching that Trevor Bauer may have been brilliant in 2020, but only over 12 starts. Is that it? And youse can't wait to re-sign Noah Syndergaard even though he never had a 12 start stretch even remotely as good as Bauer's 2020, and as between Bauer and Syndergaard, only one of those two is guaranteed to miss at least half the 2021 season, and only one of those two is coming off of Tommy John surgery where there's a chance he might not even be as good as he used to be anymore.

Edgy MD
Feb 17 2021 01:51 PM
Re: Walk This Way

I wouldn't characterize your post as representative of my position but Syndergaard had runs comparable to Bauer's 2020. It's likely been a while, but he's totally been in that stratosphere for stretches that long.

Benjamin Grimm
Feb 17 2021 02:09 PM
Re: Walk This Way

For the record, I want the Mets to sign Conforto and Lindor now, and hold off on Syndergaard. See how he pitches. If he does well, and he's open to negotiating before free agency, then talk to him. If not, let him test the market.

Centerfield
Feb 17 2021 02:31 PM
Re: Walk This Way

I don't know if Noah will engage this spring, but if he will, I'm all for locking him down.

smg58
Feb 17 2021 02:45 PM
Re: Walk This Way

Maybe I'd be in for a year on Walker, but BMLs point on his health is a very valid one (and he wasn't all that durable before then, either).

Centerfield
Feb 19 2021 05:56 AM
Re: Walk This Way

Mets have a deal with Walker. No details yet.



Seems like he's not a frontline guy. But has upside. Better than Matz!

G-Fafif
Feb 19 2021 06:08 AM
Re: Walk This Way

SNY writeup here:



https://sny.tv/articles/new-york-mets-sign-taijuan-walker-rhp-toronto-blue-jays-seattle-mariners

Benjamin Grimm
Feb 19 2021 06:20 AM
Re: Walk This Way

This is good news. He pitched well last year, and 2020 emphasized how important rotation depth is. I'm assuming it's a one-year contract, but maybe not?

G-Fafif
Feb 19 2021 06:37 AM
Re: Walk This Way

Made and handed out tacos to all who wanted one at Spring Training three years ago.


Walker, a Diamondbacks starting pitcher who loves to cook, took a recipe passed down by his mom, Nellie Garcia, and gave it his own twist. Garcia was on hand, as well, as her son shared his recipe with fans and friends.



The first fan in line was Owen Fitzgerald, following by his dad, Eamon. Both went with the bison tacos, which are Walker's specialty.



“That was his recommendation. They're great – you have to go with his recommendation when he's the chef,” Fitzgerald said. The two were visiting from Redding, Calif., and are Athletics fans, but the tacos certainly won them over.



The majority of the patrons at the taco truck were Diamondbacks fans, who found the chance to meet players a bonus on top of the free food.



"We love the D-Backs. It's really nice that they would could out and spend time with the fans like this," said Robert Owen-Jones, a fan from Tempe.



“They're even feeding Colorado Rockies fans, which is nice,” he joked.

Fman99
Feb 19 2021 06:38 AM
Re: Walk This Way

All about depth. deGrom, Carrasco, Stroman, Peterson, Lucchesi, Walker, Yamamoto, Syndergaard mid-season. Keep piling them up, says I.

batmagadanleadoff
Feb 19 2021 06:45 AM
Re: Walk This Way

Great. Now the Mets can put out an eight-man rotation. Who needs Bauer?

smg58
Feb 19 2021 07:32 AM
Re: Walk This Way

Two years at $20M and, oh great, another player option!

86dreamer
Feb 19 2021 07:49 AM
Re: Walk This Way

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=56482 time=1613742325 user_id=68]
Great. Now the Mets can put out an eight-man rotation. Who needs Bauer?



sorry i have not been around in a while, but did you miss the part about Mets offering Bauer $40+ million/year and he simply took another offer?



Depth will be very important this year - Walker is a good sign and a huge upgrade over Matz

nymr83
Feb 19 2021 07:53 AM
Re: Walk This Way

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=56482 time=1613742325 user_id=68]
Great. Now the Mets can put out an eight-man rotation. Who needs Bauer?



I'm not sure what your complaint here is? the Mets supposedly made a contract offer to Bauer in the same neighborhood as the Dodgers' offer and he spurned them. What else were they supposed to do? And what does that have to do with Taijuan Walker who is was still available?



Walker is a good signing. He'd be the 4th best starter on the team if he is healthy. If not, at least they won't be relying on Robert Gsellman, Walter Lockett, Wilmer Font, Corey Oswalt, and Chris Felexen to make starts this year. The depth is adequate for the first time in a few years.

metsmarathon
Feb 19 2021 08:01 AM
Re: Walk This Way

nah, they shoulda gone $80M/year, just to get bauer.

MFS62
Feb 19 2021 08:06 AM
Re: Walk This Way


Walker is a good signing. He'd be the 4th best starter on the team if he is healthy. If not, at least they won't be relying on Robert Gsellman, Walter Lockett, Wilmer Font, Corey Oswalt, and Chris Felexen to make starts this year. The depth is adequate for the first time in a few years.


This. Better to have too many starters than too few.

When Rojas said in a presser yesterday that the Mets might use an "opener" this year, I shuddered.

Opener is a euphemism for "we don't have enough starters".



Later

metsmarathon
Feb 19 2021 08:13 AM
Re: Walk This Way

on a more serious note, i was hoping, given the options remaining on the table, that they would go after either walker or odorizzi. so i'm pretty cool with this move.

86dreamer
Feb 19 2021 08:22 AM
Re: Walk This Way

https://cdn.britannica.com/62/4562-004-BBCF13EC/Flag-Taiwan.jpg>



https://fr.web.img6.acsta.net/medias/nmedia/18/35/81/93/18441009.jpg>

Lefty Specialist
Feb 19 2021 08:26 AM
Re: Walk This Way

He'll do as your #4.



When he gets drunk, does he really 'Taijuan on'?

LWFS
Feb 19 2021 08:45 AM
Re: Walk This Way

Taco time! Call me an early adopter.



on a more serious note, i was hoping, given the options remaining on the table, that they would go after either walker or odorizzi. so i'm pretty cool with this move.


Same. I do wonder what they saw in Odorizzi, since he seemed to be the one player this offseason they were never even rumored to be "in on."

Johnny Lunchbucket
Feb 19 2021 08:51 AM
Re: Walk This Way

Hay Man was arguing just yesterday on the Twitter that the Mets ought to have gone for Odorizzi on the basis that he'd be "better able to handle New York."



Whatevs. As someone mentioned above, better than Matz to which I strongly agree and can only add "not nearly as solid as Zack Wheeler."

A Boy Named Seo
Feb 19 2021 09:01 AM
Re: Walk This Way

Yeah I'm fine with Taijuan Walker as our #4 or #5 when Noah is back and I'm fine with him next year, too. And, yes, I'm really happy the Mets do have an "8-man rotation". Like more than 5 capable starters is a bad thing. The Dodgers have been doing it for years and when a guy got hurt, there was Rich Hill. And when Rich Hill got hurt, here's Julio Urias. And if someone else got hurt, they'd plug in Ross Stripling.



The Mets have had bodies to shuffle in and out, but I rarely had confidence in any of those spot starters. We'll see if Yamamoto or Luccesi instill that same confidence, but at least they've been doing it. In '19, the Pads ran out Joey 30 times, and the Marlins gave Yamamoto 15 starts, of basically league average work and that's probably ok for spot starts, I think.

Centerfield
Feb 19 2021 09:09 AM
Re: Walk This Way


Taco time! Call me an early adopter.



on a more serious note, i was hoping, given the options remaining on the table, that they would go after either walker or odorizzi. so i'm pretty cool with this move.


Same. I do wonder what they saw in Odorizzi, since he seemed to be the one player this offseason they were never even rumored to be "in on."


Oh man. Sorry. Completely missed your thread.

Lefty Specialist
Feb 19 2021 09:10 AM
Re: Walk This Way

Yeah, deep depth is a good thing when nobody threw a lot of innings last year. I wasn't OK with Lucchesi being the #5, but I'm OK with him being the #6.

Centerfield
Feb 19 2021 09:15 AM
Re: Walk This Way

It's funny that Walker is being compared to Bauer. They have similar career numbers, though Walker has an injury history. Both had 11 great starts in 2020 with peripherals suggesting that they were a bit lucky. Bauer's stretch was better, and Walker has never had a complete season as good as Bauer's 2018. But he comes at a fraction of the cost.



They have the best pitcher in baseball at 1. Currently two and eventually three guys who can pitch at a number 2 level. The others will make a strong 3 and 4.



Walker at 4, eventually five, and Peterson, Lucchesi and Dark Horse Darling Yamamoto. This is right up there as potentially one of the best rotations in baseball.



Ok. Now no one get hurt.

batmagadanleadoff
Feb 19 2021 09:19 AM
Re: Walk This Way

Edited 3 time(s), most recently on Feb 19 2021 09:47 AM

=86dreamer post_id=56488 time=1613746187 user_id=97]
=batmagadanleadoff post_id=56482 time=1613742325 user_id=68]
Great. Now the Mets can put out an eight-man rotation. Who needs Bauer?



sorry i have not been around in a while, but did you miss the part about Mets offering Bauer $40+ million/year and he simply took another offer?



Depth will be very important this year - Walker is a good sign and a huge upgrade over Matz


=nymr83 post_id=56489 time=1613746427 user_id=54]
=batmagadanleadoff post_id=56482 time=1613742325 user_id=68]
Great. Now the Mets can put out an eight-man rotation. Who needs Bauer?


I'm not sure what your complaint here is? the Mets supposedly made a contract offer to Bauer in the same neighborhood as the Dodgers' offer and he spurned them. What else were they supposed to do? And what does that have to do with Taijuan Walker who is was still available?



Walker is a good signing. He'd be the 4th best starter on the team if he is healthy. If not, at least they won't be relying on Robert Gsellman, Walter Lockett, Wilmer Font, Corey Oswalt, and Chris Felexen to make starts this year. The depth is adequate for the first time in a few years.


=metsmarathon post_id=56490 time=1613746875 user_id=83]
nah, they shoulda gone $80M/year, just to get bauer.


I don't have a problem with the Mets efforts to sign Bauer. I wrote this many times over. And if youse wanna remind me that Bauer's a dick, I'm on your sides and I totally agree with youse. In fact, as I sit here today writing this post, I think Bauer's an even bigger douchebag than I thought he was two or three months ago. But keep in mind that practically the whole baseball world thought that Dick Allen was a dick 50-55 years ago. Whitey Herzog thought that Keith Hernandez was a dick. Lenny Dykstra was a dick, too. But only when he wasn't wearing the Mets blue and orange. So this is very subjective and personal. But the stats, they don't lie. They're objective. You wanna know who's not a dick, as far as I know, anyways? Joe McEwing, that's who. But if youse wanna increase your team's chances of winning its division, youse'd be better off with Albert Belle instead of Joe McEwing.



I got a problem with people saying that Bauer only pitched 73 innings last year. Only. It's only but that only is more than Walker pitched the last three years combined. And Walker wasn't ever better than Jake deGrom was. But last year, Bauer indisputably was. Maybe he'll be better than deGrom in 2021, too. That's likelier to happen than Walker besting Jake.



So that's my problem. That and the money posts where some of youse let out a relieved breath of air at all the money Steve Cohen saved by Bauer not signing with the Mets even though Bauer's contract would've been pizza-pie money to Cohen and that ain't no hyperbole. Cohen and the Mets are gonna put a positive spin on the outcomes of all of their failed FA pursuits but nobody here knows whether or not Cohen is kicking himself for not upping his offers a little bit more. Maybe Cohen secretly thinks he misplayed his hands.

Centerfield
Feb 19 2021 09:26 AM
Re: Walk This Way

If I had to guess, I would bet Cohen thinks Sandy misplayed his hands and is secretly a little annoyed at the mixed bag this offseason.



But he is a professional, has and will continue to defer to Sandy until he sees the results on the field.

batmagadanleadoff
Feb 19 2021 09:31 AM
Re: Walk This Way

=Centerfield post_id=56508 time=1613751967 user_id=65]
If I had to guess, I would bet Cohen thinks Sandy misplayed his hands and is secretly a little annoyed at the mixed bag this offseason.








That possibility dawned on me, too.

Frayed Knot
Feb 19 2021 10:44 AM
Re: Walk This Way

=metsmarathon post_id=56490 time=1613746875 user_id=83]
nah, they shoulda gone $80M/year, just to get bauer.



Well Cohen can afford it therefore he should have gone there ... or something like that.

batmagadanleadoff
Feb 19 2021 10:48 AM
Re: Walk This Way

Frayed Knot wrote:

=metsmarathon post_id=56490 time=1613746875 user_id=83]
nah, they shoulda gone $80M/year, just to get bauer.


Well Cohen can afford it therefore he should have gone there ... or something like that.



See post above, where I wrote this for like the fifth or sixth time:



I don't have a problem with the Mets efforts to sign Bauer. I wrote this many times over.

LWFS
Feb 19 2021 11:04 AM
Re: Walk This Way


I got a problem with people saying that Bauer only pitched 73 innings last year. Only. It's only but that only is more than Walker pitched the last three years combined. And Walker wasn't ever better than Jake deGrom was. But last year, Bauer indisputably was. Maybe he'll be better than deGrom in 2021, too. That's likelier to happen than Walker besting Jake.



So that's my problem. That and the money posts where some of youse let out a relieved breath of air at all the money Steve Cohen saved by Bauer not signing with the Mets even though Bauer's contract would've been pizza-pie money to Cohen and that ain't no hyperbole. Cohen and the Mets are gonna put a positive spin on the outcomes of all of their failed FA pursuits but nobody here knows whether or not Cohen is kicking himself for not upping his offers a little bit more. Maybe Cohen secretly thinks he misplayed his hands.


(all emphasis mine)



First: "indisputably" ("arguably"/"marginally" is probably closer to the nut of the thing)



Second: Given that they're working on three or more long-term deals for their own players (including one pitcher whose on-paper profile is very similar to Bauer's), how COHEN feels about Bauer's salary probably isn't exactly the only consideration with regard to Bauer's salary. (Another consideration: the luxury-tax implications of multiple large signings, which would be more like pizza-pie-for-life money to Cohen, at least.)



Third: Near as I can tell, the question most Bauer-doubters had/have regarding track record wasn't so much whether someone with his track record was GOOD; rather, it's whether it was prudent/advisable to give someone with his track record (nevermind someone with his track record, brand-building priorities, and yellow-flag-dotted wish list) the highest AAV in baseball for multiple years.

LWFS
Feb 19 2021 11:11 AM
Re: Walk This Way

Three other things:



1) Not only do we have a rotation that's deep enough now to feature a Peterson/Lucchesi battle for the #5 slot, we've got a AAA pool that'll likely be something like Montgomery/Gsellman/Yamamoto/Reid-Foley/Eickhoff/Kilome/Szapucki/McWilliams/Oswalt. Depth-- meaningful depth, with nobody punching above-weight-- is important.



2) Piggybacking on FK's joke from the other thread, I like the idea of calling our guy "Formosa"



3) Formosa should probably individually-wrap any Spring Training tacos he gives out this offseason, given COVID concerns

Edgy MD
Feb 19 2021 11:37 AM
Re: Walk This Way

Who I call a dick may be subjective.



Who actually is a dick is not.

A Boy Named Seo
Feb 19 2021 01:48 PM
Re: Walk This Way

Walker has worn 0, 00 and 99 in his career. Do we know his new uni number yet?

G-Fafif
Feb 19 2021 07:58 PM
Re: Walk This Way

Tai Terrific.



https://twitter.com/tai_walker/status/1362944685581418499?s=21

Edgy MD
Feb 19 2021 08:10 PM
Re: Walk This Way

With pizza, no less.

LWFS
Feb 19 2021 08:22 PM
Re: Walk This Way

This guy... he gets it, this guy.

Edgy MD
Feb 20 2021 12:14 PM
Re: Walk This Way

Rojas is pronouncing his name "tie-YON."

Johnny Lunchbucket
Feb 20 2021 04:07 PM
Re: Walk This Way

A Boy Named Seo wrote:

Walker has worn 0, 00 and 99 in his career. Do we know his new uni number yet?


They haven't announced it yet. Currently only 00, 7, 69, 84, 85, 99 available, but at least 1 number frees up when they drop from the 40 to add him and Pillar. It's likely Syndy to 60-day il will clear 1 spot.



I got a small bet on 99

LWFS
Feb 20 2021 05:46 PM
Re: Walk This Way

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote:

A Boy Named Seo wrote:

Walker has worn 0, 00 and 99 in his career. Do we know his new uni number yet?


They haven't announced it yet. Currently only 00, 7, 69, 84, 85, 99 available, but at least 1 number frees up when they drop from the 40 to add him and Pillar. It's likely Syndy to 60-day il will clear 1 spot.



I got a small bet on 99




Apparently, he's going with the old drunken-figure-eight.



Between Walker, Stroman (0), and Jake, there should be a whole lotta zeroes on the mound this year.

G-Fafif
Feb 20 2021 07:55 PM
Re: Walk This Way

Dude decided different.



https://twitter.com/tai_walker/status/1363312476775976962?s=21

Edgy MD
Feb 20 2021 09:05 PM
Re: Walk This Way

Now he has to pick his entrance music.



[YOUTUBE]qhw-XlTMB5I[/YOUTUBE]



[YOUTUBE]DzEGKRTQd_g[/YOUTUBE]



[YOUTUBE]uEvjFThqmq0[/YOUTUBE]

LWFS
Feb 21 2021 12:32 AM
Re: Walk This Way


Dude decided different.



https://twitter.com/tai_walker/status/1363312476775976962?s=21


CONSARNIT, FORMOSA

MFS62
Feb 21 2021 06:51 AM
Re: Walk This Way

My vote goes to Nina.

Later

TransMonk
Feb 21 2021 07:13 AM
Re: Walk This Way

[fimg=500]https://www.sportscasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/turk-wendell-mets.jpg[/fimg]

Johnny Lunchbucket
Feb 21 2021 07:15 AM
Re: Walk This Way

That Toto song is just too wussy.

Edgy MD
Feb 21 2021 07:51 AM
Re: Walk This Way

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote:

That Toto song is just too wussy.


I get a feeling that somewhere in the world, at any given time, someone is always typing or uttering this sentence.

MFS62
Feb 21 2021 08:10 AM
Re: Walk This Way

Edgy MD wrote:

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote:

That Toto song is just too wussy.


I get a feeling that somewhere in the world, at any given time, someone is always typing or uttering this sentence.


Everyone is, and Toto too.

Later

batmagadanleadoff
Feb 21 2021 08:25 AM
Re: Walk This Way

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZGQfy5kqto

Johnny Lunchbucket
Feb 21 2021 08:31 AM
Re: Walk This Way

Kimball only gets one little background yowl in too.

LWFS
Feb 26 2021 12:51 PM
Re: Walk This Way

This guy is just plain adorable, showing off his care-package bounty from Turk.



If he's halfway-effective, he could be a Bartolo-sized (but not Bartolo-sized) fan favorite.

MFS62
Feb 26 2021 01:02 PM
Re: Walk This Way

[YOUTUBE]dNTToXKgwZc[/YOUTUBE]



Later

Frayed Knot
Feb 26 2021 01:08 PM
Re: Walk This Way

[vaudeville]"If I could walk that way I wouldn't need the talcum powder"[/vaudeville]

MFS62
Feb 26 2021 06:27 PM
Re: Walk This Way

Frayed Knot wrote:

[vaudeville]"If I could walk that way I wouldn't need the talcum powder"[/vaudeville]


I looked for that and couldn't find it. I think it was said by Groucho Marx.

Later

Fman99
Feb 26 2021 06:32 PM
Re: Walk This Way


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZGQfy5kqto


That's one of my favorite CCR songs right there.

Edgy MD
Feb 26 2021 07:25 PM
Re: Walk This Way

Well, listen to the master do it.



[YOUTUBE]br33HPi9sKc[/YOUTUBE]