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Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Frayed Knot Apr 04 2021 06:37 AM

Suxx when the nurtured six-month long IGT winds up going to waste ... but whatyagonnado? 7:05 first pitch Monday night at Citizens Arrest Ballpark Phils starting roster has looked like this though two games 1B - Rhys Hoskins 2B - Jean Segura SS - Didi Gregorius 3B - Matt Bohm LF - Andrew McCutcheon CF - Roman Quinn RF - Bryce Harper C - JT Realmuto We'll probably face starters Matt Moore and Chase Anderson in some order or another before seeing Aaron Nola in the series finale. Both Moore and Anderson are new to the Phils. The lefty Moore, 31, has been with TB, SF, TEX, DET since his 2011 debut. Anderson, (R) 33, has toiled for ARZ, MIL, TOR since 2014. We'll miss (but not really) both Wheeler and Zack Eflin who goes for the sweep of Atlanta today. The Phils bullpen is totally revamped with only 'DC' (designated closer) Hector Neris returning from last year's historically (and hysterically) inept crew.

Edgy MD Apr 04 2021 08:35 AM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

I squat opening day four months in advance and you and Covid swoop in like a BANDIT!

Frayed Knot Apr 04 2021 08:53 AM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

You snooze, you lose.

bmfc1 Apr 04 2021 10:58 AM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

G-Fafif had a good note about Monday's PHI starter Matt (Not Mandy) Moore while contrasting him to Max Scherzer, who the Mets should have faced on Thursday: [BLOCKQUOTE]... [O]ne steamy night in 2013 they were teammates in different uniforms. Scherzer of the Tigers started, Moore of the Rays relieved. Neither gave up a run. That was the All-Star Game at Citi Field. [/BLOCKQUOTE] http://www.faithandfearinflushing.com/2021/04/02/it-aint-open-til-its-open/

kcmets Apr 04 2021 11:11 AM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Edgy MD wrote: I squat opening day four months in advance and you and Covid swoop in like a BANDIT! I was gonna swoop yesterday, just never got around to it.

TransMonk Apr 05 2021 08:28 AM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Ugh...we've been waiting so long now that a loss tonight will feel pretty crushing to me. I'm beyond ready!

smg58 Apr 05 2021 08:34 AM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

The Phillies pen is due for multiple implosions after being perfect in the Braves series. I've been itching for baseball this past weekend. You have to have a sense of humor about it and hope it works for the best in the long run.

ashie62 Apr 05 2021 08:56 AM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Phlock the Phils They SUCK

Edgy MD Apr 05 2021 10:05 AM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

A surprise as Smitty and Nimmo sit against the lefty, with Pillar in center, McNeil in left, and Villar at second. [TABLE][TR][/TR][TR][/TR][TR][TR][/TR][TR][/TR][TR][/TR][TR][/TR][TR][/TR][TR][/TR][TR][/TR][TR][/TR][TR][/TR][/TABLE] [TH][/TH] [TH][FIMG=250]https://cdn.freebiesupply.com/images/large/2x/new-york-mets-logo-transparent.png[/FIMG][/TH] [TH][/TH] [TH][/TH] [TH][FIMG=250]https://cdn.freebiesupply.com/images/large/2x/philadelphia-phillies-logo-transparent.png[/FIMG][/TH] [TH][/TH] [TH]#[/TH] [TH]Player[/TH] [TH]Pos[/TH] [TH]#[/TH] [TH]Player[/TH] [TH]Pos[/TH] [TD]=#FF8000]1[/TD] [TD]=#0000FF]Jeff McNeil (L)[/TD] [TD]=#FF8000]lf[/TD] [TD]=#B22222]1[/TD] [TD]=#0000BF]Andrew McCutchen (R)[/TD] [TD]=#B22222]lf[/TD] [TD]=#FF8000]2[/TD] [TD]=#0000FF]Francisco Lindor (S)[/TD] [TD]=#FF8000]ss[/TD] [TD]=#B22222]2[/TD] [TD]=#0000BF]J.T. Realmuto (R)[/TD] [TD]=#B22222]c[/TD] [TD]=#FF8000]3[/TD] [TD]=#0000FF]J.D. Davis (R)[/TD] [TD]=#FF8000]3b[/TD] [TD]=#B22222]3[/TD] [TD]=#0000BF]Bryce Harper (L)[/TD] [TD]=#B22222]rf[/TD] [TD]=#FF8000]4[/TD] [TD]=#0000FF]Pete Alonso (R)[/TD] [TD]=#FF8000]1b[/TD] [TD]=#B22222]4[/TD] [TD]=#0000BF]Rhys Hoskins (R)[/TD] [TD]=#B22222]1b[/TD] [TD]=#FF8000]5[/TD] [TD]=#0000FF]Michael Conforto (L)[/TD] [TD]=#FF8000]rf[/TD] [TD]=#B22222]5[/TD] [TD]=#0000BF]Alex Bohm (R)[/TD] [TD]=#B22222]3b[/TD] [TD]=#FF8000]6[/TD] [TD]=#0000FF]James McCann (R)[/TD] [TD]=#FF8000]c[/TD] [TD]=#B22222]6[/TD] [TD]=#0000BF]Didi Gregorious (L)[/TD] [TD]=#B22222]ss[/TD] [TD]=#FF8000]7[/TD] [TD]=#0000FF]Kevin Pillar (R)[/TD] [TD]=#FF8000]cf[/TD] [TD]=#B22222]7[/TD] [TD]=#0000BF]Jean Segura (R)[/TD] [TD]=#B22222]2b[/TD] [TD]=#FF8000]8[/TD] [TD]=#0000FF]Jonathan Villar (S)[/TD] [TD]=#FF8000]2b[/TD] [TD]=#B22222]8[/TD] [TD]=#0000BF]Adam Haseley (L)[/TD] [TD]=#B22222]cf[/TD] [TD]=#FF8000]9[/TD] [TD]=#0000FF]Jacob deGrom (R)[/TD] [TD]=#FF8000]sp[/TD] [TD]=#B22222]9[/TD] [TD]=#0000BF]Matt Moore (L)[/TD] [TD]=#B22222]sp[/TD]

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 05 2021 10:37 AM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

wow

G-Fafif Apr 05 2021 10:40 AM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Where you seeing this?

kcmets Apr 05 2021 10:42 AM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

=G-Fafif post_id=59434 time=1617640840 user_id=55] Where you seeing this?

Edgy sees all!

Edgy MD Apr 05 2021 10:46 AM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Where you seeing this? Edgy sees all! LOL https://www.rotowire.com/baseball/daily-lineups.php

G-Fafif Apr 05 2021 10:50 AM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

“Expected lineup,” it says. Who's expecting this?

Edgy MD Apr 05 2021 10:54 AM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

You know, that's a good fucking point. If I have misled youse with bad Internet info, I apologize and submit myself for punishment. We shall see.

G-Fafif Apr 05 2021 10:57 AM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

“The 2021 Mets: Expect the Unexpected.” What the hell, we were expected to be up to our fourth game tonight.

Ceetar Apr 05 2021 12:35 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

yelling. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mets Batters AB R H RBI BB K LOB AVG OPS | Phillies Batters AB R H RBI BB K LOB AVG OPS ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 Pillar CF 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 | 1 McCutchen LF 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .111 .496 2 Lindor SS 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 | 2 Hoskins 1B 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .231 .615 3 Conforto RF 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 | 3 Harper RF 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .300 .762 4 Alonso, P 1B 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 | 4 Realmuto C 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .444 1.167 5 Davis, J 3B 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 | 5 Bohm 3B 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .200 .508 6 McNeil 2B 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 | 6 Gregorius SS 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .273 .657 7 McCann, J C 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 | 7 Segura 2B 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .250 .558 8 Nimmo LF 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 | 8 Haseley CF 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .400 .800 9 deGrom P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 | 9 Moore P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Totals 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 | Totals 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mets Pitchers IP H R ER BB K HR ERA | Phillies Pitchers IP H R ER BB K HR ERA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- deGrom 0.0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -.-- | Moore 0.0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -.-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Totals 0.0 0 0 0 0 0 0 | Totals 0.0 0 0 0 0 0 0 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pitches-strikes: deGrom 0-0; Moore 0-0. Groundouts-flyouts: deGrom 0-0; Moore 0-0. Umpires: Fieldin Culbreth, Brian O'Nora, D.J. Reyburn, Ryan Blakney (base assignments not confirmed until first pitch). Weather: 67 degrees, Clear. Wind: 9 mph, Varies. First pitch: 7:05 pm. Venue: Citizens Bank Park. April 5, 2021 -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Edgy MD Apr 05 2021 02:20 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Mr. Expectations wasn't that far off. Still no Smitty. [TABLE][TR][/TR][TR][/TR][TR][/TR][TR][/TR][TR][/TR][TR][/TR][TR][/TR][TR][/TR][TR][/TR][TR][/TR][TR][/TR][/TABLE] [TH][/TH] [TH][FIMG=250]https://cdn.freebiesupply.com/images/large/2x/new-york-mets-logo-transparent.png[/FIMG][/TH] [TH][/TH] [TH][/TH] [TH][FIMG=250]https://cdn.freebiesupply.com/images/large/2x/philadelphia-phillies-logo-transparent.png[/FIMG][/TH] [TH][/TH] [TH]#[/TH] [TH]Player[/TH] [TH]Pos.[/TH] [TH]#[/TH] [TH]Player[/TH] [TH]Pos.[/TH] [TD]=#FF5910]1[/TD] [TD]=#002D72]Kevin Pillar (R)[/TD] [TD]=#FF5910]cf[/TD] [TD]=#002D72]1[/TD] [TD]=#E81828]Andrew McCutchen (R)[/TD] [TD]=#002D72]lf[/TD] [TD]=#FF5910]2[/TD] [TD]=#002D72]Francisco Lindor (S)[/TD] [TD]=#FF5910]ss[/TD] [TD]=#002D72]2[/TD] [TD]=#E81828]Rhys Hoskins (R)[/TD] [TD]=#002D72]1b[/TD] [TD]=#FF5910]3[/TD] [TD]=#002D72]Michael Conforto (L)[/TD] [TD]=#FF5910]rf[/TD] [TD]=#002D72]3[/TD] [TD]=#E81828]Bryce Harper (L)[/TD] [TD]=#002D72]rf[/TD] [TD]=#FF5910]4[/TD] [TD]=#002D72]Pete Alonso (R)[/TD] [TD]=#FF5910]1b[/TD] [TD]=#002D72]4[/TD] [TD]=#E81828]J.T. Realmuto (R)[/TD] [TD]=#002D72]c[/TD] [TD]=#FF5910]5[/TD] [TD]=#002D72]J.D. Davis (R)[/TD] [TD]=#FF5910]3b[/TD] [TD]=#002D72]5[/TD] [TD]=#E81828]Alex Bohm (R)[/TD] [TD]=#002D72]3b[/TD] [TD]=#FF5910]6[/TD] [TD]=#002D72]Jeff McNeil (L)[/TD] [TD]=#FF5910]2B[/TD] [TD]=#002D72]6[/TD] [TD]=#E81828]Didi Gregorious (L)[/TD] [TD]=#002D72]ss[/TD] [TD]=#FF5910]7[/TD] [TD]=#002D72]James McCann (R)[/TD] [TD]=#FF5910]c[/TD] [TD]=#002D72]7[/TD] [TD]=#E81828]Jean Segura (R)[/TD] [TD]=#002D72]2b[/TD] [TD]=#FF5910]8[/TD] [TD]=#002D72]Brandon Nimmo (L)[/TD] [TD]=#FF5910]lf[/TD] [TD]=#002D72]8[/TD] [TD]=#E81828]Adam Haseley (L)[/TD] [TD]=#002D72]cf[/TD] [TD]=#FF5910]9[/TD] [TD]=#002D72]Jacob deGrom (L)[/TD] [TD]=#FF5910]rhsp[/TD] [TD]=#002D72]9[/TD] [TD]=#E81828]Matt Moore (L)[/TD] [TD]=#002D72]lhsp[/TD]

seawolf17 Apr 05 2021 02:32 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Nothing says "We're going to win 90 games this year" like starting Kevin Fucking .299 Career OBP Pillar leadoff on Opening Day, with Nimmo fucking EIGHTH. FFS.

Edgy MD Apr 05 2021 02:51 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

I had no idea that was his full name. Man, that kind of thing can curse you for life.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 05 2021 03:07 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

It turned out to be surprisingly accurate. 🤔

MFS62 Apr 05 2021 03:31 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

The Mets will have to do something spectacular to make the back page headline tomorrow. The Jets traded quarterback Sam Darnold. Later

seawolf17 Apr 05 2021 03:58 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

=MFS62 post_id=59470 time=1617658261 user_id=60] The Mets will have to do something spectacular to make the back page headline tomorrow. The Jets traded quarterback Sam Darnold. Later

They only did that so the headline wasn't ROJAS BATS PILLAR LEADOFF LIKE A MORON.

Ceetar Apr 05 2021 04:00 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

the .299 is actually his christian name. named for Saint Tom Pagnozzi

Edgy MD Apr 05 2021 04:51 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

My objection to Pillar is less about competition and more about categorization or epistemology. I generally object to a new player leading off the season or a new Mets pitcher getting the start on opening day. I had nothing personal against Mike Hampton and Pedro Martinez and Johan Santana, and I was glad they were acquired by my team over the winter, but who the hell were they to start the season off as representatives of my team? I DON'T KNOW YOU! I don't know if I can TRUST you! Yes, I realize there is probably some universal law that dictates that if you have Rickey Henderson in your lineup, he's your leadoff hitter, but there's still something more aesthetically representative of the organizational continuity to me if you let a veteran of prior years answer the gun, before handing the baton off to his new buddy that may or may not soon be your buddy.

Fman99 Apr 05 2021 04:55 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Hate the Nimmo/Pillar lineup and Nimmo 8th and Smith on the pine. HATE IT.

Edgy MD Apr 05 2021 04:58 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Cool to see the pre-game opening montage featuring Marcus Stroman taking BP. That's the spirit!!

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 05 2021 05:00 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Here we go. In terms of erectile anticipation, this is the biggest OD for me since 2015.

Edgy MD Apr 05 2021 05:01 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Last time the Mets played, President Trump was not only still in office, but had a perfectly reasonable chance of being re-elected, and the US hadn't been assaulted by its own citizens yet.

kcmets Apr 05 2021 05:05 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

It's 7:05, I'm so happy I could pee!

Frayed Knot Apr 05 2021 05:07 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

SHOW TIME!!!!

Willets Point Apr 05 2021 05:15 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Very wide strike zone on a strikeout of Lindor. If deGrom gets the same strike zone, he'll throw a no-hitter.

Willets Point Apr 05 2021 05:18 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

2 up, 2 down, right?

Edgy MD Apr 05 2021 05:20 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

It isn't often you thank CBP for holding one in.

Willets Point Apr 05 2021 05:21 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Ump is calling deGrom's pitches in the strike zone as balls, thus Harper walks.

Edgy MD Apr 05 2021 05:30 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Rusty Mets are falling behind on some not-so-hard cheese.

Willets Point Apr 05 2021 05:31 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Edgy MD wrote: Rusty Mets are falling behind on some not-so-hard cheese. And some more out-of-strikezone pitches.

seawolf17 Apr 05 2021 05:36 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Dom catches that ball.

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 05 2021 05:36 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Sell the team NOW!!!

Marshmallowmilkshake Apr 05 2021 05:38 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

The guys are looking a little rusty -- but that play by Lindor was sweet!

Willets Point Apr 05 2021 05:45 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

The High OBP Guy gets on base.

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 05 2021 05:45 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Zimmo!! Even hitting 8th, does things we expected of the leadoff man

seawolf17 Apr 05 2021 05:46 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Hey WHADDYA KNOW he walked Nimmo.

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 05 2021 05:46 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

And now jdg is ruining your Mets 1st contest

kcmets Apr 05 2021 05:48 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Everyone who had first base hit by deGrom report to Window 9 for your cranebucks.

Marshmallowmilkshake Apr 05 2021 05:49 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Hero time for Lindor!

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 05 2021 05:50 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Here we go. Smelling RBI

seawolf17 Apr 05 2021 05:50 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

We can release Pillar mid-game, right?

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 05 2021 05:51 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Mike Andrews Treatment for Pilly

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 05 2021 05:53 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Don't really approve of Lindor's scuzzy helmet

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 05 2021 05:55 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

This team suxxx

Marshmallowmilkshake Apr 05 2021 05:58 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Missed a chance to give Jake a nice, early lead.

Marshmallowmilkshake Apr 05 2021 06:00 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Cool point made in the booth -- deGrom is the first Mets pitcher to get the team's first hit on Opening Day. And he might be the only one ever if the league goes to the DH next year,

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 05 2021 06:15 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Mets have to make them pay for b2b bbs to open the inning

Marshmallowmilkshake Apr 05 2021 06:17 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Wow. I thought Jeff had that one!

Marshmallowmilkshake Apr 05 2021 06:18 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

There we go!

Frayed Knot Apr 05 2021 06:19 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

The kids call him Jimmy the Saint

G-Fafif Apr 05 2021 06:19 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

https://youtu.be/Gi8EdYM0t3k

Frayed Knot Apr 05 2021 06:21 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

FUCK THE DH!!!!

Chad ochoseis Apr 05 2021 06:21 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

RBI for JdG!

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 05 2021 06:21 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

There we go. Both leadoff walkers score, lineup turned over . Would Smith PH here?

Frayed Knot Apr 05 2021 06:24 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

btw, if they want to shorten games, that mound visit from the PC is exactly the unnecessary waste of time that we can do without. Limit mound visits to two or three per game and that minute or so of non-action doesn't happen.

seawolf17 Apr 05 2021 06:26 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

SERIOUSLY. CUT PILLAR NOW.

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 05 2021 06:26 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Pilar sucks but he led to my favorite Geico ad since Roast duck with mango salsa

Fman99 Apr 05 2021 06:27 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Awful lineup choice to start the season. C'mon man.

Lefty Specialist Apr 05 2021 06:27 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

2-0 lead but you felt they could have broken this one open.

Edgy MD Apr 05 2021 06:35 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Hey, man, Pill kept the Phils from scoring first. Pill takes away, but he sometimes takes away from the other team.

Centerfield Apr 05 2021 06:36 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

JD. Let Lindor take that going forward.

Centerfield Apr 05 2021 06:36 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

=Fman99 post_id=59526 time=1617668849 user_id=86] Awful lineup choice to start the season. C'mon man.

Yup.

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 05 2021 06:42 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Hoskins is having a game

Edgy MD Apr 05 2021 06:44 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Cover your nose, Tony Tarasco.

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 05 2021 06:44 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

More mistakes, more punishment. That's what good teams do

Edgy MD Apr 05 2021 06:46 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

O'Nora has his mind on the hotel.

Fman99 Apr 05 2021 06:47 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Not a strike to get Davis. Get me a robot ump stat.

LWFS Apr 05 2021 06:47 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: More mistakes, more punishment. That's what good teams do And then there's the other thing.

Lefty Specialist Apr 05 2021 06:48 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

This is shaping up to be one of those games where Jake pitches well enough to win but gets a ND instead.

LWFS Apr 05 2021 06:51 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Right? Like Familia comes in and gives up three straight hits in the 8th to blow it, or something. On the other hand... Jake throwing that kind of slider after handling the Phils through two go-rounds with just the fastball... it's just, like, mean.

Frayed Knot Apr 05 2021 06:55 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

JDD not exactly looking like Rico Suave on pop-ups tonight.

Edgy MD Apr 05 2021 06:55 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

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Frayed Knot Apr 05 2021 06:57 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Sam Coonrod ... what's his non porn name?

LWFS Apr 05 2021 06:58 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Frayed Knot wrote: JDD not exactly looking like Rico Suave on pop-ups tonight. Or, like, ever. This new Phils pitcher's name sounds like a racially-motivated dugout taunt.

Centerfield Apr 05 2021 07:00 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Luis Rojas should be thrown out of this game. Can't let that ump keep doing that.

Willets Point Apr 05 2021 07:01 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

deGrom is the lemonade of vinyl!

Edgy MD Apr 05 2021 07:04 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

deGrom is the lemonade of vinyl, isn't he? deGrom coming up with two outs and the bags empty, with likely one more inning to pitch — that's a spot where Colón would stand there with his bat on his shoulder and take three pitches.

Fman99 Apr 05 2021 07:08 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

What the fuck does the lemonade of vinyl mean?

LWFS Apr 05 2021 07:09 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

100 at the knees. Jeezzzzalou. These Phils players are starting to look just... bereft.

Centerfield Apr 05 2021 07:09 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Everyone in the park knew the high fastball was coming. Even Harper. It didn't matter.

Willets Point Apr 05 2021 07:10 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

=Fman99 post_id=59552 time=1617671339 user_id=86] What the fuck does the lemonade of vinyl mean?

Ask Edgy.

Edgy MD Apr 05 2021 07:10 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

That strikeout of Harpo was the sweetest out of the game. Seventy-seven pitches.

Marshmallowmilkshake Apr 05 2021 07:11 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

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Edgy MD Apr 05 2021 07:11 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Of course. Ah, fuck. They're shaking his hand like he's done.

Fman99 Apr 05 2021 07:12 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Are they going to pull him after 77 pitches and some white hot heat like that? FFS

LWFS Apr 05 2021 07:14 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

EFFORTLESS white hot heat, no less. Come the FUCK on. Also the recipient of a come-the-FUCK-on alert from this PA system: Kevin F. Pillar.

Centerfield Apr 05 2021 07:17 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Radical rule change. When deGrom gets pulled the game is over.

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 05 2021 07:18 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Speaking of come the fuck on, Howie telling me deGrom is done for the evening. I've gone outside and started a fire

Edgy MD Apr 05 2021 07:22 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

deGrom is turning into one of those collectible action figures that are too valuable to remove from their packaging to play with.

Chad ochoseis Apr 05 2021 07:22 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 05 2021 07:22 PM

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: Speaking of come the fuck on, Howie telling me deGrom is done for the evening. I've gone outside and started a fire I don't like the decision either, but that's a bit of an overreaction.

Fman99 Apr 05 2021 07:22 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

This is managing with the intent of getting people pissed on the internet. Because what the holy fucking else could it all mean?

Marshmallowmilkshake Apr 05 2021 07:25 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Castro is not inspiring confidence.

Fman99 Apr 05 2021 07:29 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

OK now I get it. He truly is the lemonade of vinyl. Also nice glove work by the Piss Missile.

Lefty Specialist Apr 05 2021 07:30 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Petey getting his uniform dirty. And on we go.

Edgy MD Apr 05 2021 07:33 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Take a pitch, Squirrely.

LWFS Apr 05 2021 07:36 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

He's hitting 'em. Just, y'know, AT people. (Same with Cisco.)

Lefty Specialist Apr 05 2021 07:40 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Trevor May is one large mammal.

kcmets Apr 05 2021 07:42 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Big ass feet lol

Edgy MD Apr 05 2021 07:46 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Is his number a reference to his height?

LWFS Apr 05 2021 07:47 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

"May is... a fascinating guy." -a clearly-smitten Gary, like, five or six times this inning

Chad ochoseis Apr 05 2021 07:49 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

This game has been threatening to go pear-shaped since JdG was pulled.

Edgy MD Apr 05 2021 07:49 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Agita.

Lefty Specialist Apr 05 2021 07:49 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

I'm not quite as smitten with May as Gary is right now.

Willets Point Apr 05 2021 07:52 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

A nice ground ball for a DP would be great right about now.

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 05 2021 07:52 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Yeah this is bullshit

Chad ochoseis Apr 05 2021 07:53 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Edgy MD wrote: Is his number a reference to his height? I think it's the number of pitches he's thrown this inning.

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 05 2021 07:53 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Great, Harper up with the bases loaded. Fire Rojas

Willets Point Apr 05 2021 07:54 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Fuckity fuck.

Edgy MD Apr 05 2021 07:54 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

deGrom is eligible to re-enter the game, right?

Frayed Knot Apr 05 2021 07:54 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Loup, there he is.

Willets Point Apr 05 2021 07:56 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Trying not to think of "Looper" when I hear "Loup."

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 05 2021 07:57 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Mets never learn.

Piggiestomatoes Apr 05 2021 07:57 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

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Lefty Specialist Apr 05 2021 07:57 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Ugh. This is not optimal.

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 05 2021 07:58 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Stupid fuck of a manager

Lefty Specialist Apr 05 2021 07:59 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

New year, same shitty bullpen.

Chad ochoseis Apr 05 2021 07:59 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Well, that sucked.

Edgy MD Apr 05 2021 07:59 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Louper.

LWFS Apr 05 2021 07:59 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Welp

Benjamin Grimm Apr 05 2021 07:59 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

So much for the lemonade of vinyl.

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 05 2021 08:00 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Fuck you luis

bmfc1 Apr 05 2021 08:00 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 05 2021 08:03 PM

Oh boy, Luis' post-game Zoom is gonna be ugly. Not pinch-hitting Dom; not giving Jake one more inning. Sandy brought in Loup and May and they gave the game away.

Fman99 Apr 05 2021 08:01 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

This inning is a real asshole.

Edgy MD Apr 05 2021 08:01 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

This is a bad way to play to baseball.

Piggiestomatoes Apr 05 2021 08:01 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

That's as Mets as you can get!

Willets Point Apr 05 2021 08:01 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Painful.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 05 2021 08:01 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

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Marshmallowmilkshake Apr 05 2021 08:01 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

NOOOOOOOOOOOO

kcmets Apr 05 2021 08:02 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

This has turned into a big pile of suck.

Fman99 Apr 05 2021 08:02 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Un fucking real

Chad ochoseis Apr 05 2021 08:02 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Been a long time since I've yelled "FUCK" loudly and spotaneously.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 05 2021 08:02 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

I'm really glad the Mets fortified the bullpen with May and Loup.

LWFS Apr 05 2021 08:03 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

On the plus side... it's not our CLOSER blowing this game

Lefty Specialist Apr 05 2021 08:04 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

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Fman99 Apr 05 2021 08:04 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Somehow the Mets pen ruined opening day and Familia and Diaz had nothing to do with it. I don't think anyone would have called it that way.

bmfc1 Apr 05 2021 08:05 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I'm really glad the Mets fortified the bullpen with May and Loup. Nice moves, Sandy. Good thing they fired the haircut to bring him back.

Fman99 Apr 05 2021 08:06 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

I'm muting Gary now. Sorry, Gar, but the repeated futility of the Mets pen in deGrom starts is not a stat I need repeated ad nauseum.

Edgy MD Apr 05 2021 08:07 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

I mean, I know that I watched the World Series. And no, Familia and Diaz not being involved does not surprise me. I don't care if you have Elckersley, Rivera, and Eckersley lined up to pitch the last three innings. Managing for the save is cuckoo.

Willets Point Apr 05 2021 08:07 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Time for a 4+ run top of the ninth.

Edgy MD Apr 05 2021 08:10 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Luis blew the double switch?

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 05 2021 08:10 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Rojas is a disaster

Lefty Specialist Apr 05 2021 08:15 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Tough to make Mickey Callaway look good, but he's trying.

LWFS Apr 05 2021 08:17 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

COULD'VE USED THAT, LIKE, FIVE INNINGS AGO, BUDDY

Willets Point Apr 05 2021 08:17 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Pillar starts the 2-out rally.

Edgy MD Apr 05 2021 08:18 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

This is one beefy closer.

LWFS Apr 05 2021 08:19 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Not fascinatingly beefy, but still. Wait for yours, buddy. I like Piss Missile's chances better.

Fman99 Apr 05 2021 08:20 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Well how bout that! Conforto as the tying run if there's any love in the world.

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 05 2021 08:21 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

What the hell

Edgy MD Apr 05 2021 08:21 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Let's get a 2020 baseball in there.

LWFS Apr 05 2021 08:21 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Oh, boy

Frayed Knot Apr 05 2021 08:21 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Got the polar bear up.

Lefty Specialist Apr 05 2021 08:22 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

God, they're teasing us all.

Edgy MD Apr 05 2021 08:22 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Terrific! I thought Conforto would get to second, but ... .

Fman99 Apr 05 2021 08:22 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Man, I'm getting a bit excited here. Pete with his chance to be the hero !

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 05 2021 08:22 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Fuck

LWFS Apr 05 2021 08:23 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Dammit.

Willets Point Apr 05 2021 08:23 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Dang.

Lefty Specialist Apr 05 2021 08:23 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Well, fuckiityfuckfuck.

Chad ochoseis Apr 05 2021 08:23 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Damn. I thought that was out.

Edgy MD Apr 05 2021 08:24 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Wow. Stupid 2021 baseball.

Fman99 Apr 05 2021 08:24 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

DAMMIT

LWFS Apr 05 2021 08:24 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

For all the JD Davis agita whenever a ball got popped up to him... if not for the two-run error by Guillorme, this ballgame continues, at least.

metsmarathon Apr 05 2021 08:24 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Wow. The Mets are metsing in full midsession form.

Willets Point Apr 05 2021 08:25 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Loup.

Edgy MD Apr 05 2021 08:25 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Frayed Knot stole my IGT. I'm just saying.

Frayed Knot Apr 05 2021 08:26 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

I thought that muff was at least as much on McCann as on Luis, if not more. But everything that could have gone wrong in the 8th there did. It was no one thing.

Edgy MD Apr 05 2021 08:29 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Frayed Knot wrote: I thought that muff was at least as much on McCann as on Luis, if not more. Agreed and agreed, though Luis' mistake was throwing it across the runner, from inside the baseline to outside. But committing to your stretch too early is why I was a lousy firstbaseman. McCann isn't a firstbaseman, but he should've had that.

bmfc1 Apr 05 2021 08:30 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

"Jake's pitching great!" "Yeah, but let's take him out because he hasn't pitched in a game in 2 weeks and it's a long season." "Uh, shouldn't we try and win this game? He's cruising!" "We'll be fine."

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 05 2021 08:33 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Meet the Mets is a song, not a game plan. Rojas is so fucking awful

Centerfield Apr 05 2021 08:34 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Frayed Knot wrote: I thought that muff was at least as much on McCann as on Luis, if not more. But everything that could have gone wrong in the 8th there did. It was no one thing. It's on McCann. Catchable ball.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 05 2021 08:35 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Jake pitches shutout ball and can't get a win. Neither can the Mets. That never happens.

Fman99 Apr 05 2021 08:36 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

This game sucked a garbage bag full of steamed assholes.

LWFS Apr 05 2021 08:55 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

"Jake's pitching great!" "Yeah, but let's take him out because he hasn't pitched in a game in 2 weeks and it's a long season." "Uh, shouldn't we try and win this game? He's cruising!" "We'll be fine." Here's the thing: Rojas was asked during his afternoon press conference about deGrom, and he was explicit that Jake's pitch count was going to be around 100 today. The words were said, and all.

bmfc1 Apr 05 2021 08:57 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

After the game, Luis said that he had 6 "ups" which means that it's about the number of innings pitched and not the number of pitches. WTF?

LWFS Apr 05 2021 09:08 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Like I said, I know what he said before the game. And, like, it's not like they were "high-stress" innings, either. So unless his philosophy of pitcher management changed in-game...

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 05 2021 09:11 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

After the game, Luis said that he had 6 "ups" which means that it's about the number of innings pitched and not the number of pitches. WTF? He's covering his ass behind bullshit. I haven't been this furious since 2008

Edgy MD Apr 05 2021 09:13 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

I've seen managers box themselves in with that logic before. The pitch count governs when he pulls the pitcher ... and if the pitcher keeps the pitch count down, the innings govern it. It's maddening, but yeah, the philosophy does seem to change mid-game. I once saw saw Bud Black pull Greg Maddux with a shutout in the eighth and he had only thrown 68 pitches. The guy was 42 years old. There was nothing to save him for. I looked up Maddux after the game and it turned out that he had been lifted after six two games earlier ... with an intact no-hitter going. Can anybody even present any data showing that this is actually saving arms?

batmagadanleadoff Apr 05 2021 09:15 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Tom Seaver's rolling over in his grave over this pitch count six inning start stuff. For the best pitcher on the planet, no less, who throws harder than Koufax and Ryan. Bob Gibson, too.

Ceetar Apr 05 2021 09:24 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Edgy MD wrote: Can anybody even present any data showing that this is actually saving arms? it's so hard to tell. modern medicine makes things better, we know more about conditioning in general. Guys were pitching hurt, so even if it seemed like they weren't getting hurt back then they probably were. A lot of this stuff does make sense, from a muscle/workout standpoint right? Repetitive strain, cooling down and getting warm again, recovery times. but 100 pitches, and hell, even every 5th day are just made up benchmarks. You obviously can't trust a pitcher to be honest with you, but I'm like 99.9% positive that between statcast and pitching coaches, you can detect when a pitcher is starting to actually fatigue, and deGrom wasn't there. Look at his release point! his velocity! hell, maybe even subtle changes to pace could indicate fatigue. But just counting innings? nah.

A Boy Named Seo Apr 05 2021 11:50 PM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Lefty Specialist wrote: This is shaping up to be one of those games where Jake pitches well enough to win but gets a ND instead. I'm doing the equivalent of retweeting this forum post

Lefty Specialist Apr 06 2021 05:08 AM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

A Boy Named Seo wrote: Lefty Specialist wrote: This is shaping up to be one of those games where Jake pitches well enough to win but gets a ND instead. I'm doing the equivalent of retweeting this forum post Yeah, you could see this one coming a mile down the road. No clutch hitting with men in scoring position early, so they kept the Phillies in the game. Hell, Jake had to drive one in himself. Pulling deGrom an inning early. Rotating compost in the bullpen. A key error in a big spot. This is basically the Mets, 2017-2020. Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.

Edgy MD Apr 06 2021 06:13 AM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

After the game, Luis said that he had 6 "ups" which means that it's about the number of innings pitched and not the number of pitches. WTF? This quote is my lede if I'm writing about the game. WtF are "ups" and when did this standard arrive?

G-Fafif Apr 06 2021 06:21 AM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

The phrase wheedled its way into Rojas's explanation for pulling Lugo after three very sharp innings in his first start last year. I'd never heard it before then. Rojas pulled Lugo after 39 pitches in Game 2, later saying that three up-and-downs was enough stress on the former closer in his first start. Lugo said he felt he could have gone longer, but thought it was “a good call” considering the circumstances. But the Marlins immediately took advantage, with Brian Anderson ripping a two-run double off Jared Hughes in the fourth inning to take a 2-0 lead. Jared Hughes. Trevor May. Aaron Loup. The beat goes on. https://nypost.com/2020/08/26/mets-blanked-twice-in-sweep-in-return-from-coronavirus-hiatus/

seawolf17 Apr 06 2021 06:29 AM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

This was textbook 2020s managing - starter does his thing for six innings, then you bring in your 7th Inning Guy™, then your 8th Inning Guy™, then your LTOGY™ (fuck you, Manfred, for screwing up baseball AND screwing up the anagram), to get to your Closer™. Problem is, when you have a shit lineup to begin with (Wouldn't it have been nice to have Nimmo up there with the bases loaded instead of Pillar in the fourth?), and when you play by The Book™ instead of letting the best pitcher on the goddamn planet just go (he couldn't get the 8-9-1 guys out in the seventh?), then you get what you get.

bmfc1 Apr 06 2021 06:43 AM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 06 2021 06:54 AM

Counterargument: Jake only would have pitched one more inning and Castro didn't allow a run in the 7th so taking Jake out one inning too early didn't cost them the game as May would have likely started the 8th regardless of who pitched the 7th. I'm not sure if I buy it but I'm throwing it out there for consideration.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 06 2021 06:45 AM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

I was as dismayed as everyone else when deGrom was pulled, but I'm not sure it's why the Mets lost. I had expected that deGrom would pitch the 7th and that Rojas would go to May for the 8th. If that was going to be the case, then Castro's scoreless inning just replaced deGrom's scoreless inning, and the implosion would have happened anyway. However, if deGrom could have gone 8 innings (and he really might have been able to) then that's a different story entirely. Rojas definitely did screw up. But the screwups by May and Loup were what really responsible for the loss.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 06 2021 06:45 AM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Cross-posted with bmfc1. We were both thinking the same thing at the same time.

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 06 2021 06:50 AM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

I'd argue the real reason Rojas fucked this game up was to make a show of it. It wasn't The Book so much as Look At My Awesome Team.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 06 2021 07:09 AM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

http://potg.ultimatemets.com/images/schaefer5.jpg> Cast your vote!

Edgy MD Apr 06 2021 07:20 AM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

=bmfc1 post_id=59698 time=1617713004 user_id=73] Counterargument: Jake only would have pitched one more inning and Castro didn't allow a run in the 7th so taking Jake out one inning too early didn't cost them the game as May would have likely started the 8th regardless of who pitched the 7th. I'm not sure if I buy it but I'm throwing it out there for consideration.

I don't know if any of these things come to pass, but I'm bringing deGrom out for the seventh, and hoping he stays effective enough that I can bring him out for the eighth and ninth too. The fewer the moving parts, the less likely something breaks.



If he doesn't, I go with the next-best option.



It ain't about the bullpen. It's about the commitment to the bullpen.



It's the Peterson Principle. No matter how competent your relievers are, you will promote them to the point of their incompetence.

MFS62 Apr 06 2021 07:50 AM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 06 2021 08:10 AM

Edgy MD wrote: It's the Peterson Principle. Fritz? (yeah, I know) Later

LWFS Apr 06 2021 08:03 AM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Edgy MD wrote: =bmfc1 post_id=59698 time=1617713004 user_id=73] Counterargument: Jake only would have pitched one more inning and Castro didn't allow a run in the 7th so taking Jake out one inning too early didn't cost them the game as May would have likely started the 8th regardless of who pitched the 7th. I'm not sure if I buy it but I'm throwing it out there for consideration. I don't know if any of these things come to pass, but I'm bringing deGrom out for the seventh, and hoping he stays effective enough that I can bring him out for the eighth and ninth too. The fewer the moving parts, the less likely something breaks. If he doesn't, I go with the next-best option. It ain't about the bullpen. It's about the commitment to the bullpen. It's the Peterson Principle. No matter how competent your relievers are, you will promote them to the point of their incompetence.

Fair point, but...



Countercounterargument: (maybe not as relevant re: last night) guys tire and/or become more likely to be hit after another tour through the lineup; we don't have as many competent relievers as we could/should have after an offseason spent (at least in part, right?) contemplating this very issue; maybe we should claim relievers-- lefty relievers!-- who are high-leverage performers when they are available on the waiver wire for no cost apart from money

Edgy MD Apr 06 2021 08:20 AM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

I spent the offseason contemplating why they don't let effective pitchers pitch.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 06 2021 08:21 AM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Eleven of Jake's pitches were clocked in the triple digits last night, including one at 102 MPH. Eleven.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 06 2021 08:24 AM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Bumping this to the new page. Benjamin Grimm wrote: http://potg.ultimatemets.com/images/schaefer5.jpg> Cast your vote!

Edgy MD Apr 06 2021 08:25 AM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

What I was hoping to find this morning was an audio clip of Phillies announcers at the moment he was pulled. Phillies phans in my pheed all spoke of pheeling the game was a lost cause until deGrom was liphted.

Centerfield Apr 06 2021 08:28 AM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I was as dismayed as everyone else when deGrom was pulled, but I'm not sure it's why the Mets lost. I had expected that deGrom would pitch the 7th and that Rojas would go to May for the 8th. If that was going to be the case, then Castro's scoreless inning just replaced deGrom's scoreless inning, and the implosion would have happened anyway. However, if deGrom could have gone 8 innings (and he really might have been able to) then that's a different story entirely. Rojas definitely did screw up. But the screwups by May and Loup were what really responsible for the loss. I don't think the decision to pull deGrom alone was what cost the game. There were just so many mistakes. By my count: g t 1. The decision to sit Dom in favor of Pillar. Dom was our best hitter last year, and is better against lefties against Pillar. Pillar also had bad numbers against Moore. 2. If you're going to play Pillar for defense, play Dom anyway and sit Nimmo. I like Nimmo a lot as a player, but Dom is better. 3. And certainly don't put Pillar at leadoff. This is dumb. This is the old "our CF hits leadoff cuz he's fast" philosophy. 4. Argue balls/strikes. The first call to Lindor was atrocious. It kept going from there. He also squeezed deGrom, especially on his AB to Harper. Get on him. If he keeps it up, get thrown out. This is one of the main things a manager is supposed to do. 5. PH Dom for Pillar in the 4th. Of course this is an issue because not only did you play Pillar, you batted him leadoff. PH with Dom and blow the game open. You still have Almora for defense later. 6. Leave Jake in the game. Duh. Maybe his pitch count wouldn't even be 77 if you barked a bit at the ump. 7. Leave Castro in the game. Looked sharp. No need to go to the "8th inning team" just because you want to show off your fancy new bullpen. 8. Lucchesi over Loup. First of all, he's the better pitcher. Secondly, he's better equipped to face the righties behind Harper. That righty, of course, singled to tie the game. 9. All of this leads to the game being tied with only one out when Guillorme throws home. He tries to put too much on it, which causes it to sail a bit. Which normally wouldn't be an issue except... 10. Terrible footwork by McCann at the plate. Gotta make sure of one there. If he fields that like a 1B, we get the out, and the next ball is an F9. Of course, he's thinking two as well. Rushes to meet the throw and is not in a position to stretch properly. All this and we were still a few feet from taking the lead in the 9th. Fire the manager. Score some runs. Win tonight.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 06 2021 08:32 AM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

I wonder if part of the problem the Mets have been having with deGrom's starts during his period of domination is that deGrom's stuff is so awesome that by comparison, deGrom's replacements' stuff looks like beach balls.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 06 2021 08:32 AM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Edgy MD wrote: What I was hoping to find this morning was an audio clip of Phillies announcers at the moment he was pulled. Phillies phans in my pheed all spoke of pheeling the game was a lost cause until deGrom was liphted. I was watching the Phillies telecast because it's the only one available to me. (The SNY broadcast is blacked out in my area when the Mets play the Phillies.) The Phillies guys, John Kruk and the guy who was with the Mets briefly (forget his name) were shaking their heads, as were the studio guys they were talking to. (Ricky Bottalico and someone else.) They couldn't understand why deGrom was being removed, and saw it as an opportunity that was being handed to them. And, of course, they were right.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 06 2021 08:35 AM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=59721 time=1617719526 user_id=68] I wonder if part of the problem the Mets have been having with deGrom's starts during his period of domination is that deGrom's stuff is so awesome that by comparison, deGrom's replacements' stuff looks like beach balls.

I guess you could say that about any great pitcher.

MFS62 Apr 06 2021 08:36 AM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

There are times when I wish DeGrom had a little of Bob Gibson's assertiveness in him. Gibby would have told someone coming out to the mound to remove him, "Go back to the dugout and sit the fuck down". Later

Edgy MD Apr 06 2021 08:38 AM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Tom McCarthy is the Phillies pbp guy that was with the Mets for a bit. I don't believe that the problem lies in Jacob deGrom's personality.

Centerfield Apr 06 2021 08:38 AM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=59724 time=1617719721 user_id=68] =batmagadanleadoff post_id=59721 time=1617719526 user_id=68] I wonder if part of the problem the Mets have been having with deGrom's starts during his period of domination is that deGrom's stuff is so awesome that by comparison, deGrom's replacements' stuff looks like beach balls.

I guess you could say that about any great pitcher.


I've thought about that too. Plus the pressure on the hitters during his starts. Knowing the stigma of not getting him run support makes them try to do to much, which leads to poor run support.



All the more reason not to sit your best hitter on Opening Day.

LWFS Apr 06 2021 08:40 AM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

RIGHT? Dom Fucking Smith. Man.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 06 2021 10:40 AM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

If you separate the struggling Dom (2017-2018) from the good Dom (2019-2020), Good Dom's OBP against lefties is .380.

Edgy MD Apr 06 2021 10:51 AM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

Just speculatin', and certainly not justifyin', but I imagine this wasn't really put out there as his opening day lineup, so much as it was the lineup he was preparing to go with in game four against the Phillies lefty, thinking before the season that it would be a good time to start rotating some subs like Pillar in there.

Centerfield Apr 06 2021 11:37 AM Re: Game One, Take Two -- IGT Mets @ Phils 4/5/21

I really hope we don't have to play the “Find logical explanations for dumb shit Rojas does” game all season.