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IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

G-Fafif Apr 12 2021 03:09 PM

After nine pitches in two days, two games in one day. That's the plan. 4:10 twi-night first pitch.

G-Fafif Apr 12 2021 05:34 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Walker in the opener, Stroman in the nightcap.

Willets Point Apr 12 2021 05:35 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Nightcap, or shower cap?

duan Apr 13 2021 05:29 AM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

I like the chances of two wins here :)

MFS62 Apr 13 2021 05:40 AM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

=duan post_id=60531 time=1618313375 user_id=99] I like the chances of two wins here :)

GASP!

Later

Edgy MD Apr 13 2021 09:10 AM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Not for nothing, but I wonder when the last time the Mets sent two African-Americans to the mound in a double-header was.

Willets Point Apr 13 2021 09:12 AM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

The numbers of Black players born in the USA in MLB has been dropping for a long time so it could be a while.

Edgy MD Apr 13 2021 09:26 AM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Well, I don't know if it's reflected more broadly, but hopefully today's Mets starters represent something of a reversal of the ongoing trend.

MFS62 Apr 13 2021 09:33 AM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Edgy MD wrote: Not for nothing, but I wonder when the last time the Mets sent two African-Americans to the mound in a double-header was. Having two African-American starters on the same Mets team might go back to the days of Al Jackson and Sherman "Roadblock' Jones. (I didn't look it up.) And I'm not sure if they started both games of a double-header. (Jones only had three starts) Later

batmagadanleadoff Apr 13 2021 09:53 AM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 13 2021 09:57 AM

Edgy MD wrote: Not for nothing, but I wonder when the last time the Mets sent two African-Americans to the mound in a double-header was. Having two African-American starters on the same Mets team might go back to the days of Al Jackson and Sherman "Roadblock' Jones. (I didn't look it up.) And I'm not sure if they started both games of a double-header. (Jones only had three starts) Later 1979 Mets - Roy Lee Jackson (9/77-10/80), Ray Burris (8/79-10/80) and Dock Ellis (6/79/-9/79) were all Mets teammates for about three weeks.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 13 2021 09:56 AM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Maybe Dwight Gooden and Anthony Young?

Edgy MD Apr 13 2021 09:59 AM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

I was thinking Gooden and Young would be our most likely answer.

dinosaur jesus Apr 13 2021 10:04 AM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Gooden and Young had a good chance, but it never happened. As it happens, Roadblock Jones and Al Jackson did start both ends of a doubleheader: April 29, 1962. Jackson shut out the Phillies in the opener, while Jackson pitched into the fifth in the nightcap, giving up six runs in a 10-2 loss. It was his last major league start. On August 17, 1980, Ray Burris and Roy Lee Jackson did it, as the Mets were swept by the Phillies. That may be it. If so, the only three times it's happened have been against the Phillies. We've been swept and split. It's time for a sweep of our own.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 13 2021 10:08 AM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Edgy MD wrote: I was thinking Gooden and Young would be our most likely answer. Close. July 4, 1992. Doubleheader against the Astros. Gooden and Young are the pitchers of record. But Young was the game #2 reliever: Tom Filer was the starter.

G-Fafif Apr 13 2021 11:53 AM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Nimmo CF Lindor SS D. Smith LF Alonso 1B McNeil 2B Conforto RF McCann C Guillorme 3B Walker RHP

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 13 2021 12:07 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

I don't know how much this was commented on, but Lindor getting caught stealing in the first inning the other day was about the worst thing that happened to the Mets in 2021 so far., excluding Luis's dumbass yanking of deGrom on opening day. He needs to stop doing that.

G-Fafif Apr 13 2021 12:28 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

For all the talk of “wasting” deGrom's magnificent first two starts, don't sleep on Nimmo's seven hits and six walks in five games resulting in only two runs scored for Brandon. The 2021 Mets are proving capable of not taking advantage of any asset at their disposal.

Edgy MD Apr 13 2021 12:49 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: I don't know how much this was commented on, but Lindor getting caught stealing in the first inning the other day was about the worst thing that happened to the Mets in 2021 so far., excluding Luis's dumbass yanking of deGrom on opening day. He needs to stop doing that. On one hand, Conforto's whiff was worse. On the other hand, knowing how unlikely Conforto was to make contact, saving your outs is key. Alonso whiffed too, right? I'd put it in the top five along with the yanking of deGrom and the shutdown of the opening series, but I'd put those first. And the season is young.

Edgy MD Apr 13 2021 12:50 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Edgy MD wrote: I was thinking Gooden and Young would be our most likely answer. Close. July 4, 1992. Doubleheader against the Astros. Gooden and Young are the pitchers of record. But Young was the game #2 reliever: Tom Filer was the starter. By the way, the Mets are marking today as alternative Jackie Robinson Day, as they won't be home on the 15th.

Frayed Knot Apr 13 2021 12:58 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

=G-Fafif post_id=60570 time=1618338534 user_id=55] For all the talk of “wasting” deGrom's magnificent first two starts, don't sleep on Nimmo's seven hits and six walks in five games resulting in only two runs scored for Brandon. The 2021 Mets are proving capable of not taking advantage of any asset at their disposal.

That's because the next ball either Lindor or Conforto hit hard this season will be their first.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 13 2021 01:13 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Walker will have started two of the last three games. That's gotta be pretty rare too.

Ceetar Apr 13 2021 01:29 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Stroman you mean, started sunday and will start today.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 13 2021 01:36 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

I mean Walker. I'm not sure if Sunday's game will be an April 11 game or an August 31 game.

Willets Point Apr 13 2021 01:39 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

He means Walker. 1. Walker started Thursday No Game Friday 2. deGrom started on Saturday Game suspended on Sunday Game postponed on Monday 3. Walker starts on Tuesday

batmagadanleadoff Apr 13 2021 01:41 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Every team has played 9, 10 or 11 games, except the Nats (7) and the Mets (5).

Ceetar Apr 13 2021 01:48 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

I mean, Stroman started Sunday. Whether or not the 'official' date of the game changes, he warmed up and actually took the mound.

Willets Point Apr 13 2021 01:57 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Walker is potentially starting 2 of 3 official games in a row, then.

Frayed Knot Apr 13 2021 02:06 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

So after five games over almost two weeks, we'll now (hopefully) get in four games in the next 48 hours.

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 13 2021 02:18 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

calling for rain Thursday

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 13 2021 02:23 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

DOMBOMB

Willets Point Apr 13 2021 02:23 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Dom bomb!

Frayed Knot Apr 13 2021 02:25 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Dom da-Dom Dom Dom da-Dom Dom DAH!!

Edgy MD Apr 13 2021 02:26 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Welcome to the Boom Boom Room.

Edgy MD Apr 13 2021 02:29 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Smitty can chase Anderson high and he can chase Anderson low.

Willets Point Apr 13 2021 02:29 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Michael Con-0-for-4-to comes to the plate with a runner on base.

Frayed Knot Apr 13 2021 02:31 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Willets Point wrote: Michael Con-0-for-4-to comes to the plate with a runner on base. And once again fails to get the ball out of the infield. At least he made contact though.

Edgy MD Apr 13 2021 02:35 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Only six innings left in this one. Walker got a little squeezed there.

Edgy MD Apr 13 2021 02:50 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Are the Buckets at the game? I think I just saw the Pail on SNY.

Chad ochoseis Apr 13 2021 02:52 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Guillorme may be Wally Pipping JD at third.

LWFS Apr 13 2021 03:02 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Edgy MD wrote: Only six innings left in this one. Walker got a little squeezed there. Walker is getting squeezed all day, every day. And he's still got 7 Ks through 3. But it's getting us MUCH closer to the irregulars making an appearance.

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 13 2021 03:04 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Edgy MD wrote: Are the Buckets at the game? I think I just saw the Pail on SNY. No the Tuesday Night Mets club will debut 2 weeks from today

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 13 2021 03:05 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

This fake ad on the mound is the worst

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 13 2021 03:12 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Shit PA for Alonso there

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 13 2021 03:16 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Boo

bmfc1 Apr 13 2021 03:25 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

In a 7-inning game, shouldn't the arbitrary requirement of 5 innings for a starting pitcher to get a win be lowered?

kcmets Apr 13 2021 03:26 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: This fake ad on the mound is the worst Annoying as all hell, it needs to go away NOW!!!

Gwreck Apr 13 2021 03:26 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Wait a second. What possible reason is there to have a 7 inning game? This is idiotic.

Ceetar Apr 13 2021 03:30 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

=Gwreck post_id=60622 time=1618349174 user_id=56] Wait a second. What possible reason is there to have a 7 inning game? This is idiotic.

Rob Manfred hates baseball.

Gwreck Apr 13 2021 03:33 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Accurate.

MFS62 Apr 13 2021 03:39 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

=Gwreck post_id=60622 time=1618349174 user_id=56] Wait a second. What possible reason is there to have a 7 inning game? This is idiotic.

Will double admission (day-night) doubleheaders be 7 inning games, too? If I'm paying for a game, I want to see 9 f'n innings.

Later

Frayed Knot Apr 13 2021 03:43 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

=MFS62 post_id=60625 time=1618349961 user_id=60] =Gwreck post_id=60622 time=1618349174 user_id=56] Wait a second. What possible reason is there to have a 7 inning game? This is idiotic.

Will double admission (day-night) doubleheaders be 7 inning games, too?


Yes

bmfc1 Apr 13 2021 03:45 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

I think the concept is that with shorter games the players won't be around each other for as long which lessens the risk of Covid. This is contradicted by split doubleheaders (the Mets currently have 3 scheduled) which requires the players to be around each other even longer.

duan Apr 13 2021 03:46 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

i don't like this. I wouldn't take Walker out now.

Frayed Knot Apr 13 2021 03:46 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

In a 7-inning game, shouldn't the arbitrary requirement of 5 innings for a starting pitcher to get a win be lowered? And anytime a pitcher retires the first two batters in the game, he gets credit for a quality start. OK I made that up

duan Apr 13 2021 03:47 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

i just think Castro is going to come in undercooked and give up a 2 run double.

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 13 2021 03:49 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Walker seems capable of losing the zone a little too easily. I don't much like it either but we typically have put ourselves in a poor position

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 13 2021 03:49 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Big whiff

duan Apr 13 2021 03:50 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

go Miguel - 1 down 1 to go.

duan Apr 13 2021 03:51 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: Walker seems capable of losing the zone a little too easily. I don't much like it either but we typically have put ourselves in a poor position Yeah - hard to figure how he goes from dominant to all over the fucking shop in 5 minutes.

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 13 2021 03:51 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Alright!

Frayed Knot Apr 13 2021 03:51 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

=duan post_id=60628 time=1618350366 user_id=99] i don't like this. I wouldn't take Walker out now.

Well then he shouldn't go walking the #8 & 9 hitters.

duan Apr 13 2021 03:52 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Ya Gotta BELIEVE!

Benjamin Grimm Apr 13 2021 03:52 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Phils make the third out at third base.

duan Apr 13 2021 03:52 PM

Frayed Knot wrote: =duan post_id=60628 time=1618350366 user_id=99] i don't like this. I wouldn't take Walker out now. Well then he shouldn't go walking the #8 & 9 hitters.

of course - and in fairness the results will show it was the correct decision to take him out and I was wrong!

duan Apr 13 2021 03:53 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Phils make the third out at third base. delightful that.

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 13 2021 03:55 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

I want a very crooked number here

Frayed Knot Apr 13 2021 03:55 PM Re:

Frayed Knot wrote: =duan post_id=60628 time=1618350366 user_id=99] i don't like this. I wouldn't take Walker out now. Well then he shouldn't go walking the #8 & 9 hitters. of course - and in fairness the results will show it was the correct decision to take him out and I was wrong!

And I'm not saying that it's cut and dried either way ... only that there was at least as good an argument for making the change as not. And the shortened game takes that up a notch as well.

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 13 2021 03:57 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Lindor is killing this team

duan Apr 13 2021 03:58 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

I'd keep Castro in here.

Frayed Knot Apr 13 2021 03:59 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

So a new pitcher comes in, walks the first hitter, and now the Phils need a mound meeting. What's he going to tell him, to NOT walk the next guy? ( or maybe he told him to throw a GiDP) Teams should get charged with three mound meetings for stuff like that.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 13 2021 03:59 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: Lindor is killing this team Yeah, who is this guy anyway? I have to confess that until about six months ago, I had no idea who Francisco Lindor was.

Frayed Knot Apr 13 2021 03:59 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

=duan post_id=60644 time=1618351118 user_id=99] I'd keep Castro in here.

Yup!

Benjamin Grimm Apr 13 2021 04:00 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Castro still in. Good!

duan Apr 13 2021 04:00 PM Re: Re:

Frayed Knot wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: =duan post_id=60628 time=1618350366 user_id=99] i don't like this. I wouldn't take Walker out now. Well then he shouldn't go walking the #8 & 9 hitters. of course - and in fairness the results will show it was the correct decision to take him out and I was wrong! And I'm not saying that it's cut and dried either way ... only that there was at least as good an argument for making the change as not. And the shortened game takes that up a notch as well.

Yeah of course - tbh I'd have had Castro ready to go rather then only getting him up after the first walk. Hard to believe Stroman won't be able to go 4 innings so how many bullpen innings could be needed today in total. I just didn't like the 'lastminute.com' nature of it.

duan Apr 13 2021 04:00 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Castro still in. Good! watch him lose the plate now!

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 13 2021 04:05 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Yeah we're screwed here

duan Apr 13 2021 04:05 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

THIS IS FUCKING TORTURE

Edgy MD Apr 13 2021 04:06 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Walking dogs — what'd I miss?

duan Apr 13 2021 04:06 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

though Castro does look like a dude.

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 13 2021 04:06 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Need to turn 3 here

duan Apr 13 2021 04:07 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Rojas is very very very passive, although quick hooky without preparation.

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 13 2021 04:07 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Edgy MD wrote: Walking dogs — what'd I miss? Lindor fucking up a big inning by rolling weakly into a DP

duan Apr 13 2021 04:08 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

C'MON MIGUEL - betcha gregorious gets some sort of ground ball single

duan Apr 13 2021 04:10 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

great 1st pitch strike again' Segura.

duan Apr 13 2021 04:11 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

AGH AGH AGH - it's Segura rather then Gregorius but what did i tell ya

Chad ochoseis Apr 13 2021 04:12 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Play walk-Hoskins-leadoff games, win walk-Hoskins-leadoff prizes.

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 13 2021 04:13 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

=duan post_id=60657 time=1618351658 user_id=99] Rojas is very very very passive, although quick hooky without preparation.

He's yet to convince me he knows what he is doing

Frayed Knot Apr 13 2021 04:15 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

The leadoff walk was obviously a big problem, but that was a good inning otherwise for Castro. Got burned a shit hit (Harper) and two grounders not hit hard enough to turn two and to turn one.

Edgy MD Apr 13 2021 04:15 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Tough break on a 55-foot single, but that ball had a lot of plate for an 0-2 pitch.

duan Apr 13 2021 04:17 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: =duan post_id=60657 time=1618351658 user_id=99] Rojas is very very very passive, although quick hooky without preparation. He's yet to convince me he knows what he is doing

I get that.

Can't remember who it was, but I remember hearing someone say 'until you get there you can't believe how FAST a Major League game goes for a manager' - the idea being the ramifications are so magnified from any other situation that you can't replicate it till you experience it.

Frayed Knot Apr 13 2021 04:17 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

And, of course, the bigger problem: WE'VE GOT TWO FUCKING HITS!!!!!

Frayed Knot Apr 13 2021 04:18 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

=duan post_id=60666 time=1618352222 user_id=99] I get that. Can't remember who it was, but I remember hearing someone say 'until you get there you can't believe how FAST a Major League game goes for a manager' - the idea being the ramifications are so magnified from any other situation that you can't replicate it till you experience it.

There was the old Gil Hodges vs Yogi Berra (his successor) comparison: in the 7th inning Gil was thinking about what he was going to do in the 9th while Yogi was figuring out what he should have done in the 5th

duan Apr 13 2021 04:21 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

THROW HIM OUT

Edgy MD Apr 13 2021 04:21 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Mets are hitless from the right side on the day.

duan Apr 13 2021 04:22 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Could Joe Giradi learn how to fucking wear a mask.

Chad ochoseis Apr 13 2021 04:23 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

What's going on? He certainly didn't do that deliberately in a tie game.

duan Apr 13 2021 04:23 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

I'd have been tempted to PH Smith for McCann here just for the crack.

Edgy MD Apr 13 2021 04:24 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

This Alvarado guy is funny.

bmfc1 Apr 13 2021 04:25 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Chad ochoseis wrote: What's going on? He certainly didn't do that deliberately in a tie game. Especially against a guy who isn't hitting.

Edgy MD Apr 13 2021 04:25 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Bat off your shoulder, McCanny.

Edgy MD Apr 13 2021 04:26 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Chad ochoseis wrote: What's going on? He certainly didn't do that deliberately in a tie game. Especially against a guy who isn't hitting. It's not just about intent. If you can't be responsible, you shouldn't be out there.

Chad ochoseis Apr 13 2021 04:29 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Fingers crossed...looks like we might have Good Diaz today.

Edgy MD Apr 13 2021 04:32 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Let's put this one to bed here.

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 13 2021 04:36 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Let's have one of these 20-pitch ABs from Guimo

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 13 2021 04:37 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

They got us where they want us. Leadoff guy on

Chad ochoseis Apr 13 2021 04:38 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

I know...BIFL. But I'd bunt Pillar here and give Nimmo a chance to win it. I have no faith in the guys hitting behind him now.

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 13 2021 04:38 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Ooh, 2 on

Chad ochoseis Apr 13 2021 04:38 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

And the question is moot!

TransMonk Apr 13 2021 04:38 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Must. Win. This. Game.

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 13 2021 04:39 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

LGM

Lefty Specialist Apr 13 2021 04:39 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

So how will they screw this one up?

Chad ochoseis Apr 13 2021 04:40 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

I *would not* bunt Nimmo. What are the Phils thinking?

Edgy MD Apr 13 2021 04:40 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

I remember 2021. That was the season the hit-by-pitch became our best offensive weapon.

Edgy MD Apr 13 2021 04:41 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

I'd bunt. The shortstop is too far off to cover third. But it's 1-2 now.

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 13 2021 04:41 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Zimmo you bastard

Chad ochoseis Apr 13 2021 04:42 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Funk.

Frayed Knot Apr 13 2021 04:42 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

C'mon Frankie L., become a "True Met" right here.

Chad ochoseis Apr 13 2021 04:43 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

I forgot about Smitty. I was thinking Alonso was on deck. Good.

duan Apr 13 2021 04:44 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

=duan post_id=60673 time=1618352607 user_id=99] I'd have been tempted to PH Smith for McCann here just for the crack.

How did I miss that Smith was batting 3rd - cause I'm doi some bleeding work so Am.

bmfc1 Apr 13 2021 04:44 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Frigging Lindor.

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 13 2021 04:46 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Lindor is killing this team

Chad ochoseis Apr 13 2021 04:47 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Dammit.

TransMonk Apr 13 2021 04:48 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

This team SUX!

bmfc1 Apr 13 2021 04:48 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Should have bunted with Nimmo and hoped for a WP b/c they can't hit with runners on base.

Lefty Specialist Apr 13 2021 04:48 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Boy, this team is tough to watch.

Frayed Knot Apr 13 2021 04:49 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Even the lone out which sort of left the infield was too piss poor to do anything.

Lefty Specialist Apr 13 2021 04:51 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Time to lose with this stupid rule.

Gwreck Apr 13 2021 04:51 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

They can't even wait until the 10th for this awful rule? This is an abomination.

kcmets Apr 13 2021 05:01 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

=Gwreck post_id=60706 time=1618354314 user_id=56] They can't even wait until the 10th for this awful rule? This is an abomination.

It's utter bullshit and needs to not continue after this season.

dinosaur jesus Apr 13 2021 05:02 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

When two of these stupid rules come together, can't they just waive one of them? I don't even care how this game turns out.

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 13 2021 05:04 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Great. Sell the team NOW!!!

Frayed Knot Apr 13 2021 05:05 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

So y'know what I said to myself after that passed ball? --- Oh great, now another shit infield hit will beat us.

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 13 2021 05:07 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 13 2021 05:09 PM

I guess we start by running Almora 4 Smith?

Frayed Knot Apr 13 2021 05:08 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

=kcmets post_id=60708 time=1618354903 user_id=53] =Gwreck post_id=60706 time=1618354314 user_id=56] They can't even wait until the 10th for this awful rule? This is an abomination.

It's utter bullshit and needs to not continue after this season.


And yet I've yet to hear a sports voice (outside of baseball) that doesn't LOVE these rules (7 inning games, runner on 2nd, etc.) ... and in many ways that's who I think Manfred is playing to, trying

to sell baseball to people who hate baseball in the first place and aren't going to like it under any kind of rule changes.

Lefty Specialist Apr 13 2021 05:08 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: I guess we start by running Almost 4 Smith? Almora?

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 13 2021 05:09 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Spell check

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 13 2021 05:12 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

I didn't realize that by double switching a guy out of the game they go backwards in the lineup. Dumb and dumbest. Anyway, I hate the Mets but hooray

TransMonk Apr 13 2021 05:12 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Finally a hit with RISP!

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 13 2021 05:13 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Let's go McNeil

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 13 2021 05:14 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Ok, let's go Conforto

G-Fafif Apr 13 2021 05:15 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Mets average with imaginary RISP is 1.000.

TransMonk Apr 13 2021 05:15 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

I'm glad McNeil cut his hair. Made him faster to first.

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 13 2021 05:16 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Alright, Conforto walks.

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 13 2021 05:17 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Let's go McCann

Frayed Knot Apr 13 2021 05:18 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

I was just about to tell Conforto to take the next THREE pitches (after starting 3-0)

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 13 2021 05:19 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Everybody safe. Let's go Villar

Frayed Knot Apr 13 2021 05:19 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: I didn't realize that by double switching a guy out of the game they go backwards in the lineup. Dumb and dumbest. Anyway, I hate the Mets but hooray Smart thinking if Luis pre-thought of that scenario. Possibly also just dumb luck.

Chad ochoseis Apr 13 2021 05:19 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

I'll take that. Completely lost track of who the next batters are.

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 13 2021 05:22 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Ed Coleman isn't doing it for me

ashie62 Apr 13 2021 05:23 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

LGM!

Chad ochoseis Apr 13 2021 05:23 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Nice.

Frayed Knot Apr 13 2021 05:23 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 13 2021 05:24 PM

V - R !!!

TransMonk Apr 13 2021 05:23 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Mets win!!! Yea!

G-Fafif Apr 13 2021 05:24 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

They win the dumb thing!

Willets Point Apr 13 2021 05:25 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Just got back from taking my daughter to baseball practice in time to see the walk off! What was the reason for pulling Walker early?

Frayed Knot Apr 13 2021 05:27 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Willets Point wrote: What was the reason for pulling Walker early? Walked the # 8 & 9 hitters back to back. Plus, the 5th inning is now like the 7th inning strategy-wise in these shortened games.

Willets Point Apr 13 2021 05:29 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 13 2021 05:31 PM

You'd think the strategy would be to get the same amount of innings out of your starter because your bullpen needs to be ready for two games.

kcmets Apr 13 2021 05:29 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

A win is nice, hope it leads to better times ahead. What's next, after two extras they play kickball?

MFS62 Apr 13 2021 05:30 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

=G-Fafif post_id=60734 time=1618356261 user_id=55] They win the dumb thing!

Yeah, but a win is a win is a win is a .... ok, it was fuggly, but we'll take it.

Later

Frayed Knot Apr 13 2021 05:32 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Yeah, although if a hurler starting to lose his control gives up a run or two in the 5th or 6th you've got less time to make up for that. Best to get a fresh guy in before it's too late ... or something along those lines. oe: answering Willets

Willets Point Apr 13 2021 05:40 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Frayed Knot wrote: Yeah, although if a hurler starting to lose his control gives up a run or two in the 5th or 6th you've got less time to make up for that. Best to get a fresh guy in before it's too late ... or something along those lines. oe: answering Willets Yes, that makes sense. Just as long as the strategy isn't "I usually let my guy go 6 innings in a 9-inning game so I'll pull him after 4 in a 7-inning game."

Chad ochoseis Apr 13 2021 05:43 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Also PHing or double switching to get some offense "late" in a close game. Speaking of going to the bullpen, kudos to them for only letting the fake run score over the last three. Charge the last Phillies run to Manfred.

Edgy MD Apr 13 2021 06:12 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

You know, folks, Rob Manfred sure doesn't like to dilly-dally around. He wants to jump straight to the drama and send you on your way. Why, before he went into baseball, he was a stage director. When he did Romeo & Juliet, he just gave Juliet a free vial of poison and cut to Act 5. I tell ya folks, if he wrote the Bible, Jesus would have been entombed half-alive with a knife to cut himself free and a hot sandwich!

Ceetar Apr 13 2021 06:41 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Willets Point wrote: Just got back from taking my daughter to baseball practice in time to see the walk off! What was the reason for pulling Walker early? beat me. our softball practice finished up while they were threatening on the bottom 8th. finished while we were putting stuff away.

bmfc1 Apr 13 2021 07:30 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

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Benjamin Grimm Apr 13 2021 08:50 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: I didn't realize that by double switching a guy out of the game they go backwards in the lineup. Dumb and dumbest. Anyway, I hate the Mets but hooray That makes no sense at all. I couldn't understand why Lindor was on second base. It should have been Trevor May (or a pinch runner for May) because he was in the previous spot in the batting order.

Frayed Knot Apr 13 2021 09:10 PM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

The rule was (hastily) put in because, unlike last season,, pitchers have to hit this year (at least in the real league) but they apparently need to be treated as fine China and can't possibly be expected to run the bases. So when the Mets double-switched the pitcher into the final out batting slot, the 'Manfred Man' (automatic runner) became the previous out which was Lindor. As I said earlier, it was a brilliant piece of strategy by Luis if intentional although I have my doubts as to whether it was.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 14 2021 07:09 AM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

https://i.postimg.cc/Vv9vBTNt/dd001487-bf1d-4bf8-bdf6-c1e43a9600d7.jpg> The Tabloid Cover Derby staff in Stockholm asked me to ask you: Where did you get this early edition Newsday cover? Gjord, Ronja, and Vidar say thank you!

bmfc1 Apr 14 2021 07:16 AM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Həˈlō to the TCD Staff! I get texts from Newsday's Tim Healy (as a digital subscriber) and he texted that at 9:20 and said, "Here is the early version of the backpage for the paper tomorrow. A little inside baseball for you: The first version of the newspaper starts getting printed right about now. So, this back page -- and my story about the games -- will need to be updated at least once tonight. Doubleheaders can be complicated!"

Benjamin Grimm Apr 14 2021 07:24 AM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Please keep sharing those! Newsday covers are the ones for which I don't have the most reliable sources. Robert Shields has a Twitter feed that's very useful, but he doesn't seem to share the early editions.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 14 2021 07:24 AM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

http://potg.ultimatemets.com/images/schaefer10.jpg> Cast your vote!

bmfc1 Apr 14 2021 09:19 AM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Please keep sharing those! Newsday covers are the ones for which I don't have the most reliable sources. Robert Shields has a Twitter feed that's very useful, but he doesn't seem to share the early editions. Would doing so make me at least "of counsel" member of TCD staff?

Benjamin Grimm Apr 14 2021 09:31 AM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

I asked, and this is the response I got: Tiden har kommit, sa valrossen, att prata om många saker. Av skor och skepp och tätningsvax, av kål och kungar. Och varför havet kokar varmt och om grisar har vingar. The gang in Stockholm can be pretty cryptic at times.

Edgy MD Apr 14 2021 10:13 AM Re: IGT 4/13/2021 (1): PHI@NYM — Dry Off Already

They can be a big old crowd of pains in the ass is what they can be. But they're ˈvår pains in the ass, so ...