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Very Late Original Shea

G-Fafif Mar 23 2021 09:04 PM

Shea in action, close to the the end of the de Roulet era (9/9/1979), looking as it won't again very soon. Quite surprised to find such quality video, not to mention the voices and the opposing batter. https://twitter.com/uniformcritic/status/1374533288929472514?s=21

Edgy MD Mar 23 2021 09:24 PM Re: Very Late Original Shea

Well, certainly Burris was working fast. I'll give him that. Burris was one of three 26's in between the two Kingmanian tenures.

whippoorwill Mar 24 2021 05:23 AM Re: Very Late Original Shea

Yay John Milner!

batmagadanleadoff Mar 24 2021 05:38 AM Re: Very Late Original Shea

September 9, 1979. Where were youse? That was the only run Burrris allowed that game.Mets blow a 4-1ead to the eventual WS champs. John Stearns goes 3 for 4 with a walk and a double, but was also caught stealing - the weakest part of his game.

Fman99 Mar 24 2021 06:04 AM Re: Very Late Original Shea

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=58452 time=1616585938 user_id=68] September 9, 1979. Where were youse? That was the only run Burrris allowed that game.Mets blow a 4-1ead to the eventual WS champs. John Stearns goes 3 for 4 with a walk and a double, but was also caught stealing - the weakest part of his game.

Probably off to start my year in Mrs. Jackson's first grade class at Marbletown Elementary School.

Johnny Lunchbucket Mar 24 2021 06:32 AM Re: Very Late Original Shea Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Mar 24 2021 06:37 AM

Look at Milner leaning in and getting around. He absolutely punished those pitches he liked. This was a Sunday afternoon; across the street McEnroe would beat Vitas Gerulaitis in the US Open final, internet says. I suppose I was to begin the 1st or 2nd week of 8th grade. Milner then was still the leading LH HR hitter in team history, Bob & ralph say. Excluding the switchies, Strawberry, Conforto, Grandy, Doodoo and Delgado have since surpassed him

MFS62 Mar 24 2021 06:36 AM Re: Very Late Original Shea

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=58452 time=1616585938 user_id=68] September 9, 1979. Where were youse?

Probably watching the game with my wife and 10 year old daughter.



Later

Benjamin Grimm Mar 24 2021 07:01 AM Re: Very Late Original Shea

"And we have a three-to-one ballgame" Bob really should have told us which team had the three and which team had the one. John Milner at the time held the Mets record for most home runs in a season by a left-handed hitter. Ten Mets left-handed batters have since hit more than 23 home runs in a season. (Switch hitters don't count.) Let's try to name all ten of them. The usual quiz rules apply: No more than one pick per post, and no consecutive posts. Once you've posted, please wait until someone else has posted a name before you go again.

G-Fafif Mar 24 2021 07:02 AM Re: Very Late Original Shea

Football Giants were losing to the Football Cardinals in the Meadowlands en route to the 0-5 start that would open the door to rookie Phil Simms. They led, 14-0, only to lose, 27-14, behind eternally embattled QB Joe Pisarcik. In the late game, Jets were about to get pulverized at Foxboro, 56-3, and fall to a disappointing 0-2. Matt Robinson's thumb swelled up in the opener and the team never recovered. First full week of eleventh grade followed the next day. Three weeks of active Ed Kranepool remained.

G-Fafif Mar 24 2021 07:02 AM Re: Very Late Original Shea

Darryl Strawberry (quiz).

batmagadanleadoff Mar 24 2021 07:04 AM Re: Very Late Original Shea

Shea in action, close to the the end of the de Roulet era (9/9/1979), Beat me to it on the 9/9/79 date. Didn't notice. de Roulet Shea; [FIMG=666]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50999288555_2f0272e86d_o.jpg[/FIMG] [FIMG=666]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50999288590_926b59de5d_o.jpg[/FIMG]

batmagadanleadoff Mar 24 2021 07:08 AM Re: Very Late Original Shea

Mo Vaughn (quiz)

Benjamin Grimm Mar 24 2021 07:09 AM Re: Very Late Original Shea

Quiz: Darryl Strawberry Mo Vaughn Eight to go.

Frayed Knot Mar 24 2021 07:11 AM Re: Very Late Original Shea

Michael Conforto (quiz)

batmagadanleadoff Mar 24 2021 07:13 AM Re: Very Late Original Shea

Ike Davis (quiz)

Benjamin Grimm Mar 24 2021 07:14 AM Re: Very Late Original Shea

Quiz: Darryl Strawberry Mo Vaughn Michael Conforto Ike Davis Six to go.

Johnny Lunchbucket Mar 24 2021 07:15 AM Re: Very Late Original Shea

Carlos Delgado

Frayed Knot Mar 24 2021 07:15 AM Re: Very Late Original Shea

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=58466 time=1616591619 user_id=68] Ike Davis (quiz)

Ike Davis's replacement [Doo-Dah, Doo-Dah] (quiz)

Johnny Lunchbucket Mar 24 2021 07:16 AM Re: Very Late Original Shea

Grandy

Benjamin Grimm Mar 24 2021 07:16 AM Re: Very Late Original Shea

Quiz: Darryl Strawberry Mo Vaughn Michael Conforto Ike Davis Carlos Delgado Lucas Duda Curtis Granderson Three to go.

batmagadanleadoff Mar 24 2021 07:17 AM Re: Very Late Original Shea

Robin Ventura (quiz)

Benjamin Grimm Mar 24 2021 07:17 AM Re: Very Late Original Shea

Quiz: Darryl Strawberry Mo Vaughn Michael Conforto Ike Davis Carlos Delgado Lucas Duda Curtis Granderson Robin Ventura Two more.

G-Fafif Mar 24 2021 07:22 AM Re: Very Late Original Shea

Cliff Floyd

Edgy MD Mar 24 2021 07:26 AM Re: Very Late Original Shea

Jabe Ruce

Benjamin Grimm Mar 24 2021 07:28 AM Re: Very Late Original Shea

And that completes our quiz! Darryl Strawberry Mo Vaughn Michael Conforto Ike Davis Carlos Delgado Lucas Duda Curtis Granderson Robin Ventura Cliff Floyd Jay Bruce

MFS62 Mar 24 2021 07:43 AM Re: Very Late Original Shea

John Olerud came knocking on the door with an answer, but couldn't come in. He hit 22 ... twice. Later

Willets Point Mar 24 2021 07:46 AM Re: Very Late Original Shea

My family took a 10-day trip to Ireland in September 1979 so I might have been there or getting ready to depart. I missed a couple of weeks of first grade but back then no one had conniptions about "learning loss." The first Mets game I remember attending was in June 1980 (The Steve Henderson Game) and we sat in the orange field level seats. Were those installed/repainted in the 79-80 offseason?

Willets Point Mar 24 2021 07:51 AM Re: Very Late Original Shea

This game also took place less than a month before John Paul hit a dramatic walk off and the fans charged the field to celebrate. https://www.ctvnews.ca/polopoly_fs/1.1333154.1371728441!/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_620/image.jpg>

Edgy MD Mar 24 2021 07:55 AM Re: Very Late Original Shea

That was a cool alternate uniform, but I"m glad it didn't become their regular look. So many buttons.

Benjamin Grimm Mar 24 2021 07:55 AM Re: Very Late Original Shea

Willets Point wrote: My family took a 10-day trip to Ireland in September 1979 so I might have been there or getting ready to depart. I missed a couple of weeks of first grade but back then no one had conniptions about "learning loss." The first Mets game I remember attending was in June 1980 (The Steve Henderson Game) and we sat in the orange field level seats. Were those installed/repainted in the 79-80 offseason? They replaced the original wooden seats with plastic seats sometime around 1981. I have, in my basement, a couple of fragments of the original wooden seats. There was a big pile of them, free for the taking, against a wall just inside one of the gates. My friends and I each gathered a few pieces on our way out of the stadium one day.

dinosaur jesus Mar 24 2021 07:57 AM Re: Very Late Original Shea

Do switch hitters count if they hit more than 23 from the left side?

Benjamin Grimm Mar 24 2021 07:58 AM Re: Very Late Original Shea

Not for the quick-and-dirty purpose of this quiz, no. Who might have done that? Carlos Beltran? Howard Johnson?

batmagadanleadoff Mar 24 2021 08:02 AM Re: Very Late Original Shea

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Not for the quick-and-dirty purpose of this quiz, no. Who might have done that? Carlos Beltran? Howard Johnson? Todd Hundley?

Frayed Knot Mar 24 2021 08:12 AM Re: Very Late Original Shea

A ridiculous 35 of Hundley's 41 1996 HRs were hit off RHPs, and in '97 it was 27 of 30, so, yeah, on both accounts. I remembered his splits as being lopsided, but not to that degree.

Edgy MD Mar 24 2021 08:13 AM Re: Very Late Original Shea

I checked. Beltra, Hojo, and Hunds all hit more than 23 lefthanded at least once. When Hundley hit his 41, a full 35 of them were lefthanded. Jeff McNeil hit exactly 23 back in 2019.

Frayed Knot Mar 24 2021 08:18 AM Re: Very Late Original Shea

Beltran once: 2006 = 33 vs RHP / 8 vs LHP HoJo did so twice: 1989 = 29/7, 1991 24/14

Willets Point Mar 24 2021 08:26 AM Re: Very Late Original Shea

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Willets Point wrote: My family took a 10-day trip to Ireland in September 1979 so I might have been there or getting ready to depart. I missed a couple of weeks of first grade but back then no one had conniptions about "learning loss." The first Mets game I remember attending was in June 1980 (The Steve Henderson Game) and we sat in the orange field level seats. Were those installed/repainted in the 79-80 offseason? They replaced the original wooden seats with plastic seats sometime around 1981. I have, in my basement, a couple of fragments of the original wooden seats. There was a big pile of them, free for the taking, against a wall just inside one of the gates. My friends and I each gathered a few pieces on our way out of the stadium one day. I guess my memory of orange seats was a false one then.

G-Fafif Mar 24 2021 08:28 AM Re: Very Late Original Shea

The new seats came in 1980. The walls got painted blue in the second half.

Edgy MD Mar 24 2021 08:48 AM Re: Very Late Original Shea

I'm pretty sure I was at the first game with the blue walls. It was pretty stunning.

MFS62 Mar 24 2021 08:53 AM Re: Very Late Original Shea

Frayed Knot wrote: A ridiculous 35 of Hundley's 41 1996 HRs were hit off RHPs, and in '97 it was 27 of 30, so, yeah, on both accounts. I would suspect that was roughly in proportion to the ratio of righty pitchers he faced versus left handers. No? Later

Edgy MD Mar 24 2021 09:15 AM Re: Very Late Original Shea

Not quite, no. He was meaningfully more effective against righties. He had 72% of his plate appearances against righties, but 85% of his homers.

Frayed Knot Mar 24 2021 09:27 AM Re: Very Late Original Shea

I was gonna say, LHPs typically throw somewhere between 1/4 to 1/3 of ML innings.

batmagadanleadoff Mar 24 2021 12:03 PM Re: Very Late Original Shea

=Fman99 post_id=58454 time=1616587466 user_id=86] =batmagadanleadoff post_id=58452 time=1616585938 user_id=68] September 9, 1979. Where were youse? That was the only run Burrris allowed that game.Mets blow a 4-1ead to the eventual WS champs. John Stearns goes 3 for 4 with a walk and a double, but was also caught stealing - the weakest part of his game.

Probably off to start my year in Mrs. Jackson's first grade class at Marbletown Elementary School.




But were you a Mets fan yet?

Fman99 Mar 24 2021 01:08 PM Re: Very Late Original Shea

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=58534 time=1616609008 user_id=68] =Fman99 post_id=58454 time=1616587466 user_id=86] =batmagadanleadoff post_id=58452 time=1616585938 user_id=68] September 9, 1979. Where were youse? That was the only run Burrris allowed that game.Mets blow a 4-1ead to the eventual WS champs. John Stearns goes 3 for 4 with a walk and a double, but was also caught stealing - the weakest part of his game.

Probably off to start my year in Mrs. Jackson's first grade class at Marbletown Elementary School.




But were you a Mets fan yet?


Oh yeah. My grandparents lived on 70th Ave in Flushing and I had already been to a half dozen Mets games by the time I was that age on family trips down to visit them.



It was rough, too, as a kid I lived in a majority-MFY fan neighborhood (75 miles north of NYC) at a time when they were much more competitive than the Mets were.

batmagadanleadoff Mar 24 2021 01:45 PM Re: Very Late Original Shea

=Fman99 post_id=58548 time=1616612884 user_id=86] =batmagadanleadoff post_id=58534 time=1616609008 user_id=68] =Fman99 post_id=58454 time=1616587466 user_id=86] =batmagadanleadoff post_id=58452 time=1616585938 user_id=68] September 9, 1979. Where were youse? That was the only run Burrris allowed that game.Mets blow a 4-1ead to the eventual WS champs. John Stearns goes 3 for 4 with a walk and a double, but was also caught stealing - the weakest part of his game.

Probably off to start my year in Mrs. Jackson's first grade class at Marbletown Elementary School.




But were you a Mets fan yet?


Oh yeah. My grandparents lived on 70th Ave in Flushing and I had already been to a half dozen Mets games by the time I was that age on family trips down to visit them.



It was rough, too, as a kid I lived in a majority-MFY fan neighborhood (75 miles north of NYC) at a time when they were much more competitive than the Mets were.


Got me beat by at least a year. I didn't become a Mets fan until the second grade. Yeah, those disco years were rough on Mets fan. Seaver leaving. Reggie incoming. Yanks contending every year. Mets not. Reggie Bars. Yanks taking over the baseball zeitgeist of NYC. Yuk!