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Racist Comment About Stroman

MFS62 Jun 02 2021 07:24 AM

While we were following the game on our stations, we didn't hear this. Last night, one-time major league manager and Arizona announcer Bob Brenly insulted Stroman and his durag. https://sports.yahoo.com/mlb-mets-diamondbacks-announcer-bob-brenly-mocks-marcus-stromans-durag-130405808.html (straight Yahoo article with no hidden links). During Tuesday night's game between the Diamondbacks and the New York Mets, Brenly made what he thought was a "joke" about Mets starting pitcher Marcus Stroman's choice of headwear, a durag. “I'm sure that is the same du-rag that Tom Seaver used to wear when he pitched for the Mets,” Brenly said. Dennis Young at the New York Daily News pointed out that this is not the first time Brenly has unnecessarily mocked a non-white player for what he chooses to wear on the field. Brenly, who managed in Arizona from 2001-04, has a record of totally unnecessary comments about non-white players. In 2019, he said that “it might be easier to run the bases if he didn't have that bike chain around his neck,” about Fernando Tatis Jr. The Mets have not released their response yet. Was it mentioned on the Mets broadcast? Later

Johnny Lunchbucket Jun 02 2021 08:48 AM Re: Racist Comment About Stroman

It was an insensitive offhand comment he definitely shouldn't have made but I don't think it benefits the Mets broadcasters or us watching at home to have it discussed it immediately.

kcmets Jun 02 2021 09:08 AM Re: Racist Comment About Stroman

I think I've joked about Stro's doo rag in an IGT and I suppose it's border-line inappropriate for me to do so. Doing so on TV is probably a good way to be un- employed if the story gets some wheels.

Frayed Knot Jun 02 2021 09:34 AM Re: Racist Comment About Stroman

... In 2019, [Brenley] said that “it might be easier to run the bases if he didn't have that bike chain around his neck,” about Fernando Tatis Jr. Shyeeet, I've said that a ton of times about multiple players over the years.

LWFS Jun 02 2021 10:08 AM Re: Racist Comment About Stroman

To hear NL West fans tell it online last night, it's a pretty constant just-between-us-old-white-guys racially-tinged 'joke' parade-- not just Tatis, but Machado, Puig, and a number of others getting offhand, apropos-of-nothing comments about cultural-coded style or behavior tidbits-- in that booth in recent years.

bmfc1 Jun 02 2021 10:13 AM Re: Racist Comment About Stroman

Brenly: "why can't he be like a white man?" To paraphrase what G-fafif said last night on Twitter, get Seaver's name out of your mouth, Brenly.

Fman99 Jun 02 2021 10:43 AM Re: Racist Comment About Stroman

Just another old white jackass disguised as a professional broadcaster. I hope he can get a spot on the couch at Marty Brenneman's apartment for wayward racists and hate mongerers.

G-Fafif Jun 02 2021 11:21 AM Re: Racist Comment About Stroman

Except for today being YouTube-only, this is a marvelous suggestion. [tweet]https://twitter.com/howierose/status/1400130285539373059[/tweet]

LWFS Jun 02 2021 11:35 AM Re: Racist Comment About Stroman

That would be a DAMN delight. But honestly, fuck a Brenly apology. He IS that guy; I would bet a kidney wasn't sitting on that for at least an inning or two, waiting to drop it at whenever he had the "right moment." If he ever does reflect on it, it won't be overnight after a Twitter storm; the best you'll get from him is something mealy-mouthed.

G-Fafif Jun 02 2021 12:28 PM Re: Racist Comment About Stroman

[tweet]https://twitter.com/tylerkepner/status/1400155354516836354[/tweet]

Fman99 Jun 02 2021 12:37 PM Re: Racist Comment About Stroman

I need sensitivity training, I think. Hopefully they can find some hot chick to be the instructor.

Centerfield Jun 02 2021 01:10 PM Re: Racist Comment About Stroman

For those, like me, that wondered why the du-rag comment is racist, it's amazing what you can find with ten seconds of googling. https://www.byrdie.com/history-of-durag-4798963

LWFS Jun 02 2021 01:43 PM Re: Racist Comment About Stroman

Ayyyyyup. Du-rags are NOT bandannas. It was essentially a fried chicken joke in old-people-make-fun-of-the-styles-of-today drag.

Edgy MD Jun 02 2021 03:13 PM Re: Racist Comment About Stroman

I conflate Bob Brenly with Bruce Bochy. Like, I could spend a week camping in the mountains with one of those guys and think it was the other guy. This incident helps me distinguish.

nymr83 Jun 02 2021 04:57 PM Re: Racist Comment About Stroman

Frayed Knot wrote: ... In 2019, [Brenley] said that “it might be easier to run the bases if he didn't have that bike chain around his neck,” about Fernando Tatis Jr. Shyeeet, I've said that a ton of times about multiple players over the years. Not racist. More like something people who have the need to find racism everywhere or people grasping at straws to show a pattern of behaviour would point to. You don't need jewelry flying around. My high school coach made me take the watch (remember watches? They told time before cell phones) off on day one.

Edgy MD Jun 02 2021 05:18 PM Re: Racist Comment About Stroman

The reality kicks in when it becomes a pattern of a certain type of complaint with a certain type of player. I have an old white guy shtick of my own when it came to the crooked hat movement.

LWFS Jun 02 2021 05:33 PM Re: Racist Comment About Stroman

Frayed Knot wrote: ... In 2019, [Brenley] said that “it might be easier to run the bases if he didn't have that bike chain around his neck,” about Fernando Tatis Jr. Shyeeet, I've said that a ton of times about multiple players over the years. Not racist. More like something people who have the need to find racism everywhere or people grasping at straws to show a pattern of behaviour would point to. You don't need jewelry flying around. My high school coach made me take the watch (remember watches? They told time before cell phones) off on day one. Thanks for lending us your definitive, informed opinion. Now do du-rags. And after that, tackle the fact that Brenly's been doing this nudge-nudge-wink-wink shit for years (about chains, blond hair on Hispanic players, tattoos), with a marked lean toward people darker than coffee ice cream.

Edgy MD Jun 02 2021 07:12 PM Re: Racist Comment About Stroman

I think Frayed Knot's defining old white guy moment came when it described Blastings Thrilledge pursuing a fly ball while wearing a cross "only a little smaller than the True Cross."

Frayed Knot Jun 02 2021 07:14 PM Re: Racist Comment About Stroman

Speaking racial profiling, the NFL has now pledged to stop the practice of racial "baselining", that's the one where black players (ie., most of their league) had a tough time qualifying for settlement money for concussion related dementia and other issues because they were assumed to start out with lower levels of cognitive function in the first place therefore making loss of function more difficult to prove. And keep in mind that they haven't actually ended this practice, only that they've now pledged to do so. And that this pledged didn't come in 1968 or sometime 'round about the turn of this century but EARLIER TODAY

Frayed Knot Jun 02 2021 07:18 PM Re: Racist Comment About Stroman

Edgy MD wrote: I think Frayed Knot's defining old white guy moment came when it described Blastings Thrilledge pursuing a fly ball while wearing a cross "only a little smaller than the True Cross." I don't recall that particular comment but I'll take your word for it. The only distinction I'd make is that I'd say the same thing if I saw a white OF'er with a hunk of chain flapping from chest to face as he ran. Besides, I was a much younger man when Milledge was playing.

whippoorwill Jun 03 2021 06:41 AM Re: Racist Comment About Stroman

Frayed Knot wrote: Speaking racial profiling, the NFL has now pledged to stop the practice of racial "baselining", that's the one where black players (ie., most of their league) had a tough time qualifying for settlement money for concussion related dementia and other issues because they were assumed to start out with lower levels of cognitive function in the first place therefore making loss of function more difficult to prove. And keep in mind that they haven't actually ended this practice, only that they've now pledged to do so. And that this pledged didn't come in 1968 or sometime 'round about the turn of this century but EARLIER TODAY Craptastic

Edgy MD Jun 03 2021 07:13 AM Re: Racist Comment About Stroman

I've long forsworn the NFL. I hat the NFL But that's fucking next-level bullshit. Wow.

MFS62 Jun 03 2021 07:28 AM Re: Racist Comment About Stroman

The NFL situation is even more offensive when you realize that it was a person of color - a Nigerian-American Doctor who first diagnosed football-related brain injuries. And his research was initially ignored. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bennet_Omalu Together with colleagues in the department of pathology at the University of Pittsburgh, Omalu published his findings in the journal Neurosurgery in 2005 in a paper entitled, "Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy in a National Football League Player." In it, Omalu called for further study of the disease: "We herein report the first documented case of long-term neurodegenerative changes in a retired professional NFL player consistent with chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE). This case draws attention to a disease that remains inadequately studied in the cohort of professional football players, with unknown true prevalence rates."[15] Omalu believed the National Football League (NFL) doctors would be "pleased" to read it and that his research could be used to "fix the problem."[14] The paper received little attention initially, but members of the NFL's mild traumatic brain injury (MTBI) committee later called for its retraction in May 2006.[16] Their letter requesting the retraction characterized Omalu's description of CTE as "completely wrong" and called the paper "a failure."[4] Later

Frayed Knot Jun 03 2021 06:55 PM Re: Racist Comment About Stroman

Edgy MD wrote: I've long forsworn the NFL. I hat the NFL But that's fucking next-level bullshit. Wow. Eh, don't worry. The withering criticism that the NFL will come under for this will force them to ... Who are we kidding here? This will go unmentioned by those whose job it supposedly is to cover the league.

G-Fafif Jun 04 2021 08:18 AM Re: Racist Comment About Stroman

Brenly's taking a bit of a break. Former Cubs star Aramis Ramírez says he felt Bob Brenly made a point of attacking and deriding him on the air when Brenly was broadcasting Cubs games and Ramírez was in his final few years in Chicago. Ramírez said he and other Cubs players from Latin America felt Brenly was harsh with them because they were not White. Brenly, now the color commentator for the Diamondbacks broadcasts on Bally Sports Arizona, drew widespread condemnation Tuesday night for making a crack about Mets pitcher Marcus Stroman wearing a du-rag. Stroman is Black and tweeted after the game that the comment had “racist undertones.” Brenly apologized in a team-issued statement Wednesday morning for what he called a “poor attempt at humor that was insensitive and wrong.” Brenly also committed to seeking sensitivity training. On Thursday, Brenly went a step further and announced he would be stepping away from the broadcasts to reflect on his remarks. “I plan to return to the booth next homestand, hopefully a better person,” Brenly said in a statement issued to The Athletic. As screenshots of Brenly's initial statement went around social media, an unverified Twitter account seemingly belonging to Ramírez responded to many of them to say that he wasn't sure how Brenly still had a job. After Ramírez's agent, Paul Kinzer, confirmed to The Athletic that the account belonged to the former Cubs slugger, both Kinzer and Ramírez agreed to a joint phone interview Wednesday to discuss their thoughts on what they feel is a pattern of behavior with Brenly when it comes to talking about players of color. “It felt weird because every time he attacked somebody, it was a Latin player for some reason,” Ramírez said of his time in Chicago. https://theathletic.com/2631373/2021/06/03/former-cub-aramis-ramirez-says-bob-brenlys-commentary-was-discriminatory-brenly-to-take-week-off-of-diamondbacks-broadcasts/

MFS62 Jun 04 2021 09:12 AM Re: Racist Comment About Stroman

=G-Fafif post_id=66754 time=1622816315 user_id=55] Brenly, now the color commentator

He certainly has been.



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kcmets Jun 04 2021 09:58 AM Re: Racist Comment About Stroman

He's not going to wiggle off the hook with a weekend self-examination hiatus.

Ceetar Jun 04 2021 11:51 AM Re: Racist Comment About Stroman

hopefully it becomes permanent.

Edgy MD Jun 21 2021 07:04 PM Re: Racist Comment About Stroman

Not for nothing, but Jeff McNeil has what seems like a non-uniform durag peeking out from under his cap.

LWFS Jun 21 2021 10:51 PM Re: Racist Comment About Stroman

Edgy MD wrote: Not for nothing, but Jeff McNeil has what seems like a non-uniform durag peeking out from under his cap. Bandanna/headband. Not durag.

Edgy MD Jun 22 2021 05:59 AM Re: Racist Comment About Stroman

Yes, but all I saw at the moment was that it seemed to emerge from beneath his hat in a similar manner.

MFS62 Jun 22 2021 07:39 AM Re: Racist Comment About Stroman

Like men used to wear a dickie to make people think they were wearing a turtleneck sweater. Jeff is showing solidarity without going all-in. Later

Frayed Knot Jun 22 2021 09:34 AM Re: Racist Comment About Stroman

Not until this story did I realize that it's spelled Du-Rag rather than Doo-Rag That probably makes me a racist.

Edgy MD Jun 22 2021 09:42 AM Re: Racist Comment About Stroman

It's honestly new to me also, but I'm trying to roll.

kcmets Jun 22 2021 09:50 AM Re: Racist Comment About Stroman

I think do-rag, doo-rag and du-rag are all interchangeably acceptable lol...

Frayed Knot Jun 22 2021 10:01 AM Re: Racist Comment About Stroman Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 22 2021 12:46 PM

Maybe. But I also remember when it was decided that if you pronounced it HAR-ass-ment instead of ha-RASS-ment (or maybe it was the other way around) it meant that you were a disgusting, sexist pig.

Fman99 Jun 22 2021 11:32 AM Re: Racist Comment About Stroman

It's a do-rag to protect a hair-do. Or so I always believed. I also like "dew rag."

roger_that Jun 22 2021 01:04 PM Re: Racist Comment About Stroman

He's so fine (doo-rag, du-rag, do-rag), Wish he was mine (do-rag, doo-rag, du-rag)....

A Boy Named Seo Jun 22 2021 02:10 PM Re: Racist Comment About Stroman

Did Bob Brenly join this forum? What's up with some of these 'jokes'?

kcmets Jul 14 2022 08:05 AM Re: Racist Comment About Stroman

Found this. We see Marcus tomorrow at 2:20 sharp.

Lefty Specialist Jul 14 2022 08:26 AM Re: Racist Comment About Stroman

He'll be hyped up to beat the Mets, if only to justify his stupid Cubs contract.

roger_that Jul 14 2022 08:33 AM Re: Racist Comment About Stroman

Came here to post my version of "My Sweet Lord" only to find that I'd already posted it....