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Edgy MD
Jun 05 2021 08:31 AM

... there was the 3-5-4.

batmagadanleadoff
Jun 05 2021 08:39 AM
Re: Before the 1-5-4

That play was from the wild and unforgettable 1986 game when Dave Parker dropped a routine fly ball to give the Mets new life. Also, a vicious bench clearing brawl ensued when Ray Knight clocked Eric Davis right in the face.



We had a whole thread about that game on or about its 25th anniversary. That would've been 2011. I think MFS62 started the thread. Then he threw a ninny-fit tantrum all because I dared to include stuff in his thread about this game.

Frayed Knot
Jun 05 2021 08:54 AM
Re: Before the 1-5-4

Edgy MD wrote:

... there was the 3-5-4.


And, if you go by the personal vis-a-vis their regular positions, that was a 3-2-4 DP



I thought of that play last night and was almost surprised that neither Gary nor Ron brought it up.

Smith obviously didn't have as far to go just to field the ball as Keith did (nor did he wind up in foul territory after making the throw) but

Smith's quickness off the mound and the big late-game nature of the play was very similar otherwise.

MFS62
Jun 05 2021 09:16 AM
Re: Before the 1-5-4

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We had a whole thread about that game on or about its 25th anniversary. That would've been 2011. I think MFS62 started the thread. Then he threw a ninny-fit tantrum all because I dared to include stuff in his thread about this game.



Thank you for a cheap shot sucker punch out of the blue.

I don't recall starting that thread (not my style to start threads about 25th anniversaries of specific games), but if it was ten years ago, isn't it time to let it go?

Later

MFS62
Jun 05 2021 09:19 AM
Re: Before the 1-5-4

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=batmagadanleadoff post_id=66898 time=1622903998 user_id=68]
We had a whole thread about that game on or about its 25th anniversary. That would've been 2011. I think MFS62 started the thread. Then he threw a ninny-fit tantrum all because I dared to include stuff in his thread about this game.



Thank you for a cheap shot sucker punch out of the blue. I don't recall starting that thread (not my style to post about 25th anniversary of specific games), but if it was ten years ago, isn't it time to let it go?

Later

Johnny Lunchbucket
Jun 05 2021 11:37 AM
Re: Before the 1-5-4

https://youtu.be/UIMox4mKYVU



I don't remember this one

kcmets
Jun 05 2021 11:45 AM
Re: Before the 1-5-4

http://phpbb3.ultimatemets.com/archives/16600/f1_t16600.shtml

MFS62
Jun 05 2021 11:53 AM
Re: Before the 1-5-4


http://phpbb3.ultimatemets.com/archives/16600/f1_t16600.shtml


Thank you for finding that, Kase.

Looks like I not only didn't start the thread, but didn't even post in it.



Later

Edgy MD
Jun 05 2021 11:59 AM
Re: Before the 1-5-4

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote:

https://youtu.be/UIMox4mKYVU



I don't remember this one


I had forgotten that one too but dug it up while researching James Loney for a Parody Challenge Classic entry. I unwisely went with another song and LOST.



It's another fine play started by a strong firstbaseman, but lacked a lot of elements of the one turned by Hernandez — a weird, highly charged game, a team everybody loved or hated, a catcher forced to play third after a series of ejections, and a crazy firstbaseman boldly positioning himself in the batter's face.



Also, Martin Prado seems to have been running down the line backwards, so the finish had none-of-the bang-bang of the Hernandez play, or yesterday's, for that matter.

batmagadanleadoff
Jun 05 2021 01:39 PM
Re: Before the 1-5-4



http://phpbb3.ultimatemets.com/archives/16600/f1_t16600.shtml


Thank you for finding that, Kase.

Looks like I not only didn't start the thread, but didn't even post in it.

Oh yes you did. You started a thread about the '61 Reds, whom you said you loved and rooted for, probably because there was no NY NL team then, if I remember. That thread went Reds. Then Mets v Reds '86 classic. Then you went nuts. Edgy finally hadda come in and play peacemaker and split out the original thread to placate you. Read the first post in the archived thread linked by KC, where FAFIF talks about being inspired by my picture show. That's a reference to your original thread. My picture show was many stills of that '86 game along with commentary, some of it from a Faith and Flushing piece about that game, , which FAFIF had written around the same time of that thread.

Lefty Specialist
Jun 05 2021 02:28 PM
Re: Before the 1-5-4

Kinda glad I went outside to enjoy a nice warm late spring day, rather than obsess over what was written on a fan forum 10 years ago.



Did some yard work and got a bit of a sunburn. Had Dairy Queen Blizzards for lunch. Discovered that a Christmas tree I planted 20 years ago is producing pine cones for the first time.



Didn't think about 2011 once. And not worried that this might be used against me in 2031.

bmfc1
Jun 05 2021 03:01 PM
Re: Before the 1-5-4

Is this an area code?

batmagadanleadoff
Jun 05 2021 03:38 PM
Re: Before the 1-5-4

Lefty Specialist wrote:

Kinda glad I went outside to enjoy a nice warm late spring day, rather than obsess over what was written on a fan forum 10 years ago.



Did some yard work and got a bit of a sunburn. Had Dairy Queen Blizzards for lunch. Discovered that a Christmas tree I planted 20 years ago is producing pine cones for the first time.



Didn't think about 2011 once. And not worried that this might be used against me in 2031.


No one's using anything against anybody. It's no big deal to me. The double play video at the top of this thread merely triggered that memory. I spent the most time in that thread posting about that DP, which was probably the biggest play of that wild game, and so that's how it reminded me of that Reds thread. I wasn't angry when the brouhaha first happened in 2011. I was mainly amused and thought it was kinda' funny that someone would get so worked up over posts about an '86 game in his '61 Reds thread. I even remember how he phrased his complaint. It went something like about waking up that morning to read the new posts in his '61 Reds thread only to see Gary Carter's ass on third base. (That was a reference to a shot from left field looking in at Carter from his backside. You really did see Carter's ass. Carter was playing third because the Mets were suddenly strapped personnel-wise due to ejections and players already used up).



This is no big deal. And if MFS62 is so bothered by this rehash, I'll even apologize. I thought this was more funny than anything else. It turns out that he doesn't even remember.

MFS62
Jun 05 2021 03:43 PM
Re: Before the 1-5-4

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This is no big deal. And if MFS62 is so bothered by this rehash, I'll even apologize. I thought this was more funny than anything else. It turns out that he doesn't even remember.


I didn't remember it, and thank you.



Later

batmagadanleadoff
Jun 05 2021 03:48 PM
Re: Before the 1-5-4


Lefty Specialist wrote:

Kinda glad I went outside to enjoy a nice warm late spring day, rather than obsess over what was written on a fan forum 10 years ago.



Did some yard work and got a bit of a sunburn. Had Dairy Queen Blizzards for lunch. Discovered that a Christmas tree I planted 20 years ago is producing pine cones for the first time.



Didn't think about 2011 once. And not worried that this might be used against me in 2031.


No one's using anything against anybody. It's no big deal to me. The double play video at the top of this thread merely triggered that memory. I spent the most time in that thread posting about that DP, which was probably the biggest play of that wild game, and so that's how it reminded me of that Reds thread. I wasn't angry when the brouhaha first happened in 2011. I was mainly amused and thought it was kinda' funny that someone would get so worked up over posts about an '86 game in his '61 Reds thread. I even remember how he phrased his complaint. It went something like about waking up that morning to read the new posts in his '61 Reds thread only to see Gary Carter's ass on third base. (That was a reference to a shot from left field looking in at Carter from his backside. You really did see Carter's ass. Carter was playing third because the Mets were suddenly strapped personnel-wise due to ejections and players already used up).



This is no big deal. And if MFS62 is so bothered by this rehash, I'll even apologize. I thought this was more funny than anything else. It turns out that he doesn't even remember.


I'll probably associate that tremendous 1-5-4 double play with that Reds thread from 10 years ago for the rest of my life.

batmagadanleadoff
Jun 05 2021 11:46 PM
Re: Before the 1-5-4

That 1-5-4 game was really wild. That was also the game where Davey sorta' ran out of pitchers and so kept both McDowell and Orosco in at the end at the same time, with one of the relievers pitching and the other one going out to right field depending on whether Davey wanted a lefty or righty pitcher. I think Pete Rose went ballistic when Davey first switched those pitchers, arguing either that the incoming pitcher shouldn't be awarded warm-up pitches or arguing about how a Mets mound visit should require one of the Mets relievers to be removed from the game.

Edgy MD
Jun 05 2021 11:54 PM
Re: Before the 1-5-4

And really, if the object of the game was anything besides scoring more runs than the other team, surely it should be to make Pete Rose explode, right?

batmagadanleadoff
Jun 06 2021 12:00 AM
Re: Before the 1-5-4

Edgy MD wrote:

And really, if the object of the game was anything besides scoring more runs than the other team, surely it should be to make Pete Rose explode, right?


I was going to write: especially with what we know now, but then I remembered the Rosebud affair, and that was always enough for me.