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IGT 06/16 - Cubs at Mets

kcmets
Jun 16 2021 08:10 AM

https://www.kcmets.com/CPF/CHC.png> 38-29

Stock p (0-0, -.--)

http://www.kcmets.com/CPF/NYM.png> 34-25

deGrom p (6-2, 0.56)

MFS62
Jun 16 2021 08:24 AM
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Oh oh. The dreaded "they've never faced this pitcher before" specter looms.



Later

G-Fafif
Jun 16 2021 08:33 AM
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Five-game lead in the NL East.

batmagadanleadoff
Jun 16 2021 08:37 AM
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[FIMG=777]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/Eisenhower_d-day.jpg[/FIMG]

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 16 2021 08:53 AM
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Oh oh. The dreaded "they've never faced this pitcher before" specter looms.



Later


They have:



http://ultimatemets.com/scorecard_graph.php?game=9127&font=5>

Edgy MD
Jun 16 2021 09:01 AM
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Yeah, I never work from that dread. I think if you spent some time digitally hobnobbing with fans of virtually any team, you'd find a whole lot of folks sincerely telling you how their team is particularly susceptible to unfamiliar pitchers.

batmagadanleadoff
Jun 16 2021 09:08 AM
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Stock's the Cubs sacrificial lamb.

batmagadanleadoff
Jun 16 2021 09:09 AM
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It's the Cubs who should be dreading tonight.

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 16 2021 09:10 AM
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https://i2.wp.com/res.cloudinary.com/nomu/images/f_auto,q_auto/v1617112017/Lamb-Stock/Lamb-Stock.jpg?fit=1200%2C1200&ssl=1>

kcmets
Jun 16 2021 09:17 AM
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Being a fan of lamb, I'm quite intrigued by concentrated lamb stock.

Frayed Knot
Jun 16 2021 10:43 AM
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Stock might be the one guy in the league who can give JdG a run for his money in the nightly mph comparison* they do every night. He can drop triple digits on ya.





* I just realized that I have no idea who the sponsor of that gig is (used to be Cholula but that was like four years ago) which means it's probably not money well spent

Edgy MD
Jun 16 2021 10:53 AM
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It's Spectrum, isn't it?



Cholula's money must've been well spent, if you're still remembering it. I think they did better because (a) they had flames on the graphic, and (b) their ads were regularly rotating behind the batter and flanking the scoreboard.

kcmets
Jun 16 2021 11:15 AM
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Cholula is the Piels Light, or maybe Meisterbrau of hot sauces.



Keystone? Anyone? Bueller? Anyone?

Johnny Lunchbucket
Jun 16 2021 11:56 AM
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I had a 24-oz Miller High Life can at the game last night. Went down like water



Then, I tried some funky LIC Brewing IPA that was actually pretty not tasty. Didn't finish it

kcmets
Jun 16 2021 12:09 PM
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I like IPA, but have a ABV limit <6%. Upwards is too hoppy for me.



I hope Ceetar agrees or else he'll be throwing a sneaker at me...

Ceetar
Jun 16 2021 12:43 PM
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ABV has nothing to do with hoppiness and it's more likely to be the opposite anyway.



but JCL is dead to me now. Higher Burnin' is pretty good, and when the alternative is Miller High Life..bleh. But I get you, there's almost only NE IPA at Citi Field if you want craft, so it makes it tough if you're not a huge fan of that very fruit-forward almost syrupy smooth pillow mouthfeel style of IPA.







I'm seeing rumors of a Mermaid Pilsner or a Beach Beer by Coney Island (Bushwick PIls?) so that might be where you want to go.

Lefty Specialist
Jun 16 2021 12:44 PM
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I have this fear about tonight's game. DeGrom, competitor that he is, wills himself onto the mound despite injury. It goes poorly and he comes out of the game early with a more serious injury than they were originally talking about.



I hate thinking this way, but I can't shake the foreboding. Every fiber of my being hopes I am wrong.

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 16 2021 12:51 PM
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My fibers agree with your fibers.

kcmets
Jun 16 2021 12:52 PM
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=Ceetar post_id=68147 time=1623868992 user_id=102]
ABV has nothing to do with hoppiness and it's more likely to be the opposite anyway.


I guess it's the alcohol then. I had an 8% or so a couple of weekends ago.

Truth Serum I believe it was called from a brewery not far from me. Too much.

kcmets
Jun 16 2021 12:53 PM
Re: IGT 06/16 - Cubs at Mets

Lefty Specialist wrote:
I have this fear about tonight's game. DeGrom, competitor that he is, wills himself onto the mound despite injury. It goes poorly and he comes out of the game early with a more serious injury than they were originally talking about.

I share these fears.

Fman99
Jun 16 2021 12:55 PM
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Hoppy IPAs are great. deGrom is great. You're all paranoid and nutsos.

Ceetar
Jun 16 2021 01:07 PM
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=kcmets post_id=68150 time=1623869538 user_id=53]


I guess it's the alcohol then. I had an 8% or so a couple of weekends ago.

Truth Serum I believe it was called from a brewery not far from me. Too much.



Soul Brewing? (I don't remember where you are)



IPA is no longer a meaningful descriptor of beer, so it's hard to say what might've turned you off. 'Standard' IPA (well at 8% it'd be a double IPA) do often have a little bit of like 'hop burn' just from all the alpha acids and such. It's usually more of a drying/acrid type feel than a bitter one. (If it is soul it doesn't seem to be very well regarded)



Some of the newer 'new england' IPAs have this pillowy mouthfeel, are hazy, but are so overloaded with hops it oven comes off with that same sort hop burn thing. It's not really good practice.









Anyway, It does seem like deGrom knows his limits, even if he's pushing up right against them all season. I could see him departing early again and the Mets not scoring enough, but who knows.

kcmets
Jun 16 2021 01:11 PM
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Yes, Soul! I didn't have it locally and didn't realize where they were located until

reading a can a few days later. I wish I knew because I lived in Pleasantville for over

25 years and would have been more chatty with the vendor (it was at a craft fair)...

Lefty Specialist
Jun 16 2021 01:16 PM
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=Fman99 post_id=68153 time=1623869738 user_id=86]
Hoppy IPAs are great. deGrom is great. You're all paranoid and nutsos.



Perhaps. If I'm wrong I will happily chug a Surrender Dorothy RyeIPA (ABV 6.2%)that's currently sitting in my beer fridge. Maybe even two.

Ceetar
Jun 16 2021 01:26 PM
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if you write about that experience we'd happily publish it on BarleyProse.com!

G-Fafif
Jun 16 2021 01:43 PM
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Villar 3B

Lindor SS

D. Smith LF

Alonso 1B

McKinney RF

Pillar CF

Guillorme 2B

Nido C

deGrom RHP

Johnny Lunchbucket
Jun 16 2021 01:45 PM
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ABV has nothing to do with hoppiness and it's more likely to be the opposite anyway.



but JCL is dead to me now. Higher Burnin' is pretty good, and when the alternative is Miller High Life..bleh. But I get you, there's almost only NE IPA at Citi Field if you want craft, so it makes it tough if you're not a huge fan of that very fruit-forward almost syrupy smooth pillow mouthfeel style of IPA.







I'm seeing rumors of a Mermaid Pilsner or a Beach Beer by Coney Island (Bushwick PIls?) so that might be where you want to go.


I generally like the NEIPAs, that one was was way too "pillowy" as you described. I also suspected it might been skunked a little, just wasn't for me.

Edgy MD
Jun 16 2021 01:49 PM
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Amazingly, the Mets seem to be congealing around a specific lineup of sorts.



Also, Guillorme seems to have bumped back ahead of Peraza — seemingly getting all the righthanders and leaving José to the lefties.



I'd still like to see him getting a stronger walkup song than "Brother Louie." It's not the worst, but it sort of has a dampening effect on my rooting energy.



(This place is starting to read like a drinking forum with a baseball problem!)

kcmets
Jun 16 2021 01:54 PM
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Citi Field Selling Expired Skunky Beer, Details at Eleven!

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 16 2021 02:06 PM
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Has there been any detectible pattern regarding combinations of starting pitchers and catchers?

Ceetar
Jun 16 2021 02:45 PM
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Johnny Lunchbucket wrote:





I generally like the NEIPAs, that one was was way too "pillowy" as you described. I also suspected it might been skunked a little, just wasn't for me.




If I make it to a Tuesday game in the new few weeks I'll sneak you something better, lol. I might actually try this coming Tuesday, though it's the last day of school so we might 'celebrate'.



The care of beer at stadiums is rumored to be pretty terrible, though it shouldn't have skunked in a can unless you poured it into a clear glass, and then it's technically on you.







looks like deGrom has mostly been switching off catchers, no discernible pattern.



going backwards for Nido's last starts



Lucchesi, Peterson, deGrom, STroman, Stroman, deGrom, Peterson, Lucchesi, Stroman.

kcmets
Jun 16 2021 02:52 PM
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Cubs rather tardy on posting a lineup, gonna stop checking... maybe Stock doesn't exist.

Edgy MD
Jun 16 2021 03:45 PM
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Cubs apparently delayed in the hope that Kris Bryant could answer the bell.


[list=1]

  • [*]Joc Pederson (L) LF

  • [*]Anthony Rizzo (L) 1B

  • [*]Javier Baez (R) SS

  • [*]Ian Happ (S) CF

  • [*]Patrick Wisdom (R) 3B

  • [*]Rafael Ortega (L) RF

  • [*]Eric Sogard (L) 2B

  • [*]José Robotron (S) C

  • [*]Robert Stock (L) P
    • [/list]

    I haven't seen Robert Stock that much since Unsolved Mysteries and i assumed he was dead at the present time.

    kcmets
    Jun 16 2021 05:10 PM
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    It's 7:10 PM, time to get your Jake on!!

    Johnny Lunchbucket
    Jun 16 2021 05:23 PM
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    Earache my eye

    Frayed Knot
    Jun 16 2021 05:26 PM
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    [oldman]When I played and we got hit in the ear, we got up and ran to 3rd. The players are such wimps these days[/oldman]

    Frayed Knot
    Jun 16 2021 05:49 PM
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    There's your run Jacob

    Lefty Specialist
    Jun 16 2021 05:54 PM
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    We're.

    Not.

    Worthy.

    Methead
    Jun 16 2021 05:56 PM
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    =kcmets post_id=68150 time=1623869538 user_id=53]
    Truth Serum I believe it was called from a brewery not far from me. Too much.



    You can't handle the truth!

    Edgy MD
    Jun 16 2021 06:01 PM
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    The slider is looking a little slurvy tonight.



    I don't mean that in a bad way. There's just more vertical drop.

    batmagadanleadoff
    Jun 16 2021 06:05 PM
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    Eddie Kranepool in the stands to watch deGrom.

    Edgy MD
    Jun 16 2021 06:06 PM
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    Yeah I saw Eddie Krane in the krowd. That couldn't possibly possibly have been Buddy (?!) next to him, right?

    Frayed Knot
    Jun 16 2021 06:07 PM
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    More pitches than you'd prefer to see (>50 thru 3) ... but that's a bit like looking for blemishes on the Mona Lisa

    batmagadanleadoff
    Jun 16 2021 06:07 PM
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    Oh brother! Now what?

    batmagadanleadoff
    Jun 16 2021 06:08 PM
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    Edgy MD wrote:

    Yeah I saw Eddie Krane in the krowd. That couldn't possibly possibly have been Buddy (?!) next to him, right?

    .Maybe. That was also my fleeting thought.

    dinosaur jesus
    Jun 16 2021 06:08 PM
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    This is insane. But I can't see him going more than five unless he brings his pitch count way down.

    Edgy MD
    Jun 16 2021 06:09 PM
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    Yeah, incredible to see somebody this dominant while he's hurting.



    Block looked demoralized at the plate.

    Frayed Knot
    Jun 16 2021 06:11 PM
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    The Dom/Pete HR celebration, which we've seen a bunch of times now, is totally dorky

    Lefty Specialist
    Jun 16 2021 06:12 PM
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    My deGrom fear appears to be coming true. Dammit.

    bmfc1
    Jun 16 2021 06:14 PM
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    Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 16 2021 06:17 PM

    Crap. CRAP! And he got 3 runs, too. This is hindsight but perhaps he shouldn't have made this start and gone on the IL 5 days ago.

    Edgy MD
    Jun 16 2021 06:17 PM
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    Sean Reid-Foley's mustache says, "If you don't straighten it out, young man, it's military school for you!"

    bmfc1
    Jun 16 2021 06:20 PM
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    Szapucki is pitching tonight so he's on schedule to pitch in 5 days but he hasn't been great tonight.

    https://www.milb.com/gameday/mets-vs-railriders/2021/06/16/646590#game_state=live,game_tab=,game=646590

    7 of the 9 SYR players tonight, including Conforto, have played for the Mets this season.

    Edgy MD
    Jun 16 2021 06:21 PM
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    I think of guys pulling themselves out of a game when they're pitching brilliantly, I think of J.R. Richard in his last year or two.

    dinosaur jesus
    Jun 16 2021 06:24 PM
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    It feels like DeGrom has been things his body really isn't meant to do. Maybe he needs to dial it down somehow and give up being Superman. DeGrom 2018 should be enough for anyone.

    Lefty Specialist
    Jun 16 2021 06:25 PM
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    Shoulder soreness. Pretty vague.

    nymr83
    Jun 16 2021 06:30 PM
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    Lefty Specialist wrote:

    Shoulder soreness. Pretty vague.


    We're fucked

    Johnny Lunchbucket
    Jun 16 2021 06:31 PM
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    This is stupid

    Edgy MD
    Jun 16 2021 06:46 PM
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    Can you imagine Cubs fans watching this guy pitch?

    Edgy MD
    Jun 16 2021 06:46 PM
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    Dom got lucky. The last time he checked his swing with the bases loaded, it was a 1-2-3.

    dinosaur jesus
    Jun 16 2021 06:48 PM
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    Stock got lucky. Bad strike three call.

    bmfc1
    Jun 16 2021 06:49 PM
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    Too bad that Pete couldn't check his swing to make contact with the ball.

    bmfc1
    Jun 16 2021 06:55 PM
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    Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 16 2021 06:57 PM

    Gary Thorne to sub for Gary during the Mets series in Pittsburgh... or did Keith mean Gary "I SUCK AT BROADCASTING" Apple?

    Edgy MD
    Jun 16 2021 06:56 PM
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    Could Stock really be continuing?



    What a giveaway.

    kcmets
    Jun 16 2021 07:04 PM
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    =Methead post_id=68182 time=1623887797 user_id=61]
    =kcmets post_id=68150 time=1623869538 user_id=53]
    Truth Serum I believe it was called from a brewery not far from me. Too much.


    You can't handle the truth!
    Good one! Say hi to Gloria for me. lol

    Edgy MD
    Jun 16 2021 07:12 PM
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    Finally, someone compared Rizzo to Rusty.

    Edgy MD
    Jun 16 2021 07:24 PM
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    Nope, totally not Buddy with Eddie.



    Kind of weird that he's in a stadium seat and not a private skybox.

    Methead
    Jun 16 2021 07:34 PM
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    Castro had the slider working that inning, damn

    Edgy MD
    Jun 16 2021 07:35 PM
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    Glad to see Methead.



    Room's been dead since they lifted Jake, man.

    kcmets
    Jun 16 2021 07:48 PM
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    Where the hell has this Trevor May been hiding?

    Fman99
    Jun 16 2021 07:48 PM
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    Strong inning for May.

    Edgy MD
    Jun 16 2021 08:03 PM
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    Drew Smith, nobody asked you to make it interesting.

    LWFS
    Jun 16 2021 08:03 PM
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    Ortega turned that meatball into taco stuffing

    Fman99
    Jun 16 2021 08:08 PM
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    Dogshit inning for Smith

    bmfc1
    Jun 16 2021 08:10 PM
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    I can definitely see the Mets trading for Rich Rodriguez (PIT) or Kendall Graveman (SEA) by the trade deadline.

    kcmets
    Jun 16 2021 08:16 PM
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    Lotta fun, except for the un-fun mystery chapter.

    Fman99
    Jun 16 2021 08:30 PM
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    It's kind of shittish that they had to use Diaz in a game they led 6-1 in the 9th, but I guess four pitches isn't too bad.

    Edgy MD
    Jun 16 2021 08:50 PM
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    Jake says he's confident that this is nothing ... in a less-than-confident manner.

    roger_that
    Jun 17 2021 03:13 AM
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    Trevor May not be as awful as we feared.

    Benjamin Grimm
    Jun 17 2021 05:40 AM
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    http://potg.ultimatemets.com/images/schaefer10.jpg>



    Cast your vote!

    Edgy MD
    Jun 17 2021 07:15 AM
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    Edgy MD in the previous IGT wrote:

    Yeah, Lindor deserves some credit for his defensive captaining. He's been bringing that all season, even when he was hitting at his worst.


    I've been pretty liberal with praising Lindor's play, but you know what I'm not seeing? I'm not seeing him bust it to first, and last night, it probably cost the team a baserunner.

    kcmets
    Jun 17 2021 08:22 AM
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    I usually have big giant rabbit ears for such things and I haven't noticed that.

    I'll have to tweak my antennae going forward.

    Centerfield
    Jun 17 2021 08:37 AM
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    The Fields made it out to Citi for the first time since 2019.



    Thoughts on the game!!!!



    *No masks. No social distancing. Indoors or outdoors (though we didn't go into a club). No one asked us for a vaccination card. If you're not fully vaccinated, I would be very wary of going.



    *Atmosphere was electric for the first three innings. I've never experienced anything like it. Except for maybe a stray solo shot, the Cubs had no chance of scoring. Absolute dominance.



    *In this age of social media, everyone knew right away that Jake went down into the tunnel. Euphoria from striking out the side, to everyone head down checking twitter. Missed the Dom HR because I was looking at my phone.



    *the crowd absolutely loves Villar and Pillar. These guys are OPS-ing .764 and .719. That doesn't sound that impressive, but they seem to play better than their numbers. Great pickups.



    *Was shitty to have to bring in Diaz in that game, but it's great to see the crowd greet him so well. I don't know this trumpet song at all, but it seems to get everyone jazzed up.