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IGT 6/18/2021: NYM @ WSH: I Hate Those Bastards

bmfc1 Jun 18 2021 01:56 PM

METS: 1. Jonathan Villar (S) 3B 2. Francisco Lindor (S) SS 3. Dominic Smith (L) LF 4. Pete Alonso (R) 1B 5. Billy McKinney (L) RF 6. Luis Guillorme (L) 2B 7. Tomas Nido (R) C 8. Mason Williams (L) CF 9. Joey Lucchesi (L) P Nationals: 1. Kyle Schwarber (L) LF 2. Trea Turner (R) SS 3. Juan Soto (L) RF 4. Ryan Zimmerman (R) 1B 5. Yan Gomes (R) C 6. Josh Harrison (R) 2B 7. Jordy Mercer (R) 3B 8. Victor Robles (R) CF 9. Erick Fedde (R) P 81 degrees, no rain tonight, and yours truly in the ballpark.

Edgy MD Jun 18 2021 02:37 PM Re: IGT 6/18/2021: NYM @ WSH: I Hate Those Bastards

Guillorme still hoping to break the seal on his 2021 RBI and extra-base hit jars.

bmfc1 Jun 18 2021 02:43 PM Re: IGT 6/18/2021: NYM @ WSH: I Hate Those Bastards

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/TimBritton/status/1405989812121780226[/TWEET]

kcmets Jun 18 2021 04:24 PM Re: IGT 6/18/2021: NYM @ WSH: I Hate Those Bastards

=bmfc1 post_id=68398 time=1624046186 user_id=73]and yours truly in the ballpark.

Bring home a W, no pressure.

Frayed Knot Jun 18 2021 05:27 PM Re: IGT 6/18/2021: NYM @ WSH: I Hate Those Bastards

WOW!! Bad (non) call

Frayed Knot Jun 18 2021 05:47 PM Re: IGT 6/18/2021: NYM @ WSH: I Hate Those Bastards

We're not getting enough baserunners to be giving away outs on the base paths.

LWFS Jun 18 2021 05:58 PM Re: IGT 6/18/2021: NYM @ WSH: I Hate Those Bastards

BOTH ways, we're giving away outs.

ashie62 Jun 18 2021 06:01 PM Re: IGT 6/18/2021: NYM @ WSH: I Hate Those Bastards

Interesting IGT title.

Frayed Knot Jun 18 2021 06:34 PM Re: IGT 6/18/2021: NYM @ WSH: I Hate Those Bastards

Frayed Knot wrote: We're not getting enough baserunners to be giving away outs on the base paths.

LWFS Jun 18 2021 06:57 PM Re: IGT 6/18/2021: NYM @ WSH: I Hate Those Bastards

We're not getting enough baserunners, full stop.

A Boy Named Seo Jun 18 2021 07:09 PM Re: IGT 6/18/2021: NYM @ WSH: I Hate Those Bastards

Maybe this is the night Lucchesi makes it through the order the third time? (Narrator: This would not be the night Lucchesi makes it through the order the third time.)

Frayed Knot Jun 18 2021 07:11 PM Re: IGT 6/18/2021: NYM @ WSH: I Hate Those Bastards

He got three extra hitters ... and he retired one of them.

Frayed Knot Jun 18 2021 07:17 PM Re: IGT 6/18/2021: NYM @ WSH: I Hate Those Bastards

The pitcher and the PC were just on the same bench together for some 10 straight minutes. So after five pitches they need to hold the game up for an on-field conference?!?!?

Frayed Knot Jun 18 2021 07:27 PM Re: IGT 6/18/2021: NYM @ WSH: I Hate Those Bastards

Good decision by Dom to be left-handed there.

Frayed Knot Jun 18 2021 07:32 PM Re: IGT 6/18/2021: NYM @ WSH: I Hate Those Bastards

Four hits in the last two games/16 innings

kcmets Jun 18 2021 07:43 PM Re: IGT 6/18/2021: NYM @ WSH: I Hate Those Bastards

Something's gotta give, maybe bmfc is gonna have to do 'the streak.'

Frayed Knot Jun 18 2021 07:52 PM Re: IGT 6/18/2021: NYM @ WSH: I Hate Those Bastards

Not often that you get T. Turner both on a GiDP and a K/WP in the same game.

Edgy MD Jun 18 2021 07:53 PM Re: IGT 6/18/2021: NYM @ WSH: I Hate Those Bastards

What'd I miss?

Frayed Knot Jun 18 2021 07:57 PM Re: IGT 6/18/2021: NYM @ WSH: I Hate Those Bastards

Edgy MD wrote: What'd I miss? Not much

Edgy MD Jun 18 2021 08:00 PM Re: IGT 6/18/2021: NYM @ WSH: I Hate Those Bastards

I generally support going to the closer in a tie, but one notion is to save your strikeout specialist for the penalty kicks that begin in the 10th.

Edgy MD Jun 18 2021 08:03 PM Re: IGT 6/18/2021: NYM @ WSH: I Hate Those Bastards

Howie not in top form here. I'm guessing his vision from the 1000-foot-high broadcast booth isn't strong.

Edgy MD Jun 18 2021 08:08 PM Re: IGT 6/18/2021: NYM @ WSH: I Hate Those Bastards

Good job by Martinez getting runners on the corner with none out. Mezz in big trubble.

kcmets Jun 18 2021 08:09 PM Re: IGT 6/18/2021: NYM @ WSH: I Hate Those Bastards

Ruh roh

Edgy MD Jun 18 2021 08:11 PM Re: IGT 6/18/2021: NYM @ WSH: I Hate Those Bastards

Real good time for a triple-play.

Edgy MD Jun 18 2021 08:11 PM Re: IGT 6/18/2021: NYM @ WSH: I Hate Those Bastards

Nope. Let's sweep two tomorry.

Fman99 Jun 18 2021 09:05 PM Re: IGT 6/18/2021: NYM @ WSH: I Hate Those Bastards

That was sucky.

bmfc1 Jun 18 2021 10:16 PM Re: IGT 6/18/2021: NYM @ WSH: I Hate Those Bastards

=Fman99 post_id=68449 time=1624071930 user_id=86]That was sucky.

Not as sucky as being there with the weight of my hatred for those bastards plus my excitement about my first game in a long time and then seeing our guys not get a runner to third and only one to second AND it taking 3 hours to play a 1-0 game, not to mention the idiot fans doing the wave 3X in the 7th inning of a 0-0 game. Yeah, it was great to be back but still kinda sucky.

Fman99 Jun 19 2021 05:08 AM Re: IGT 6/18/2021: NYM @ WSH: I Hate Those Bastards

No that sounds suckier. Personally if I've waited two years for an in person Mets game I'm breaking that streak at a home game. But that's just me.

Benjamin Grimm Jun 19 2021 06:03 AM Re: IGT 6/18/2021: NYM @ WSH: I Hate Those Bastards

http://potg.ultimatemets.com/images/schaefer12.jpg> Cast your vote!

bmfc1 Jun 19 2021 10:52 AM Re: IGT 6/18/2021: NYM @ WSH: I Hate Those Bastards

The pivotal AB of the game featured 2 bad calls from an umpire that made 1 bad call out of every time. Great job MLB! [TWEET]https://twitter.com/UmpScorecards/status/1406277687010865156[/TWEET]

Edgy MD Jun 19 2021 11:01 AM Re: IGT 6/18/2021: NYM @ WSH: I Hate Those Bastards

So I guess Danley should be credited with the loss. Dumb question, but I don't believe it's a settled one: Now that we have confidence that these strike zone borders and these ball locations are meaningful representations of what's happening, just how should we interpret when a spot represents a ball that is within the strike zone? [list=1] [*]Is it a strike if any part of the ball is touching the border of the plane of the strike zone? [*]Is it only a strike if the greater part of the ball is within the border (or, similarly, if the dead center point is across the line)? [*]Is it only a strike if the totality of the ball is within the border? [/list] While, I think, in the analytical community, they're leaning toward (1), or close to it, I'm not sure the rules are clear on the matter, and I'm not sure there is unanimity in how umps understand the meaning of the borderline.

Frayed Knot Jun 19 2021 03:12 PM Re: IGT 6/18/2021: NYM @ WSH: I Hate Those Bastards

Edgy MD wrote: ...just how should we interpret when a spot represents a ball that is within the strike zone? [list=1] [*]Is it a strike if any part of the ball is touching the border of the plane of the strike zone? [*]Is it only a strike if the greater part of the ball is within the border (or, similarly, if the dead center point is across the line)? [*]Is it only a strike if the totality of the ball is within the border? [/list] I've always known the rule as #1

kcmets Jun 19 2021 03:29 PM Re: IGT 6/18/2021: NYM @ WSH: I Hate Those Bastards

Frayed Knot wrote: I've always known the rule as #1 Of course, and certainly never where a catcher moves his mitt to.

dinosaur jesus Jun 19 2021 03:46 PM Re: IGT 6/18/2021: NYM @ WSH: I Hate Those Bastards

Both those pitches to Soto look very close, and one of the calls favored the Mets. The pitch to Smith was a bad call, but it also favored the Mets. I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be indignant about, other than that Danley's strike zone was pretty inconsistent throughout.

Frayed Knot Jun 19 2021 04:55 PM Re: IGT 6/18/2021: NYM @ WSH: I Hate Those Bastards

Yeah, even though the call that got the Mets upset was bad, to look at it in isolation is misleading.

bmfc1 Jun 19 2021 05:39 PM Re: IGT 6/18/2021: NYM @ WSH: I Hate Those Bastards

So a bad call is OK because he made one of ten calls wrong in the entirety of the game therefore it's wrong to look at that one call? The winning run was scored by a player that reached based because of that bad call. That's the issue. Regardless of what happened before or after, that particular call put Soto on base and he scored the only run of the game. Period. If someone wants to play "both sides" or "whataboutism", fine, you can do that but what happened on that call was a fact.

Frayed Knot Jun 19 2021 05:53 PM Re: IGT 6/18/2021: NYM @ WSH: I Hate Those Bastards

Not saying that any bad calls are OK, just that you can't hang the cause of the loss on one pitch particularly when an earlier pitch in the same AB was likely wrong the other way so if we're going to wave a wand and correct all the calls Soto might have walked before even getting to that point.