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Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

Frayed Knot Jul 07 2021 08:18 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 07 2021 08:28 AM

It's the second try at a deGrom day vs a 1st place team ... only now it comes with 22% less action!! 2:10 first pitch ... assuming no continuation of the recent deluge.

TransMonk Jul 07 2021 08:25 AM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

Today would be a great day for a complete game shutout.

kcmets Jul 07 2021 09:27 AM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

http://www.kcmets.com/CPF/NYM.png> Nimmo CF Lindor SS Smith LF Alonso 1B McNeil 2B Conforto RF Guillorme 3B Nido C deGrom P

kcmets Jul 07 2021 10:10 AM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

https://www.kcmets.com/CPF/MIL.png> Urias 3B Yelich LF Adames SS Narvaez C Garcia RF Peterson 2B Hiura 1B Bradley CF Burnes P

Gwreck Jul 07 2021 11:15 AM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

Mike Vaccaro coming in hot (and accurately) that 7 inning split doubleheaders must be immediately stopped: https://nypost.com/2021/07/07/rob-manfreds-split-doubleheaders-are-stealing-from-baseball-fans/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

seawolf17 Jul 07 2021 11:19 AM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

I do understand that logic. Between deGrom and Burnes, we could have a combined *double* no-hitter today.

Edgy MD Jul 07 2021 11:55 AM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

It's pretty bold of the Brewskis to take advantage of the reschedule and switch up their strategy of using a sacrificial lamb against deGrom and instead burn Burnes in Game One against deGrom. They're putting their chips in sweeping the afternoon, but risking getting swept in the series in doing so.

seawolf17 Jul 07 2021 11:56 AM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

I checked his splits, though, and Burnes, like deGrom, is better during the day. So maybe that plays into it also. And hey, if you want to be the best, you gotta beat the best. So credit Ned Yost or Craig Counsell or Harvey Kuenn or whoever the Brewers' skipper is these days.

Edgy MD Jul 07 2021 12:02 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

Interesting. My strategy was always, if you want to be the best, dodge the best, and hope that external circumstance prevent the best from catching up to you before you claim your title.

ashie62 Jul 07 2021 12:15 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

There's Jake!

Willets Point Jul 07 2021 12:17 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

Why am I hearing the PC Richards whistle at Citi Field? That's Yankees shit!

Willets Point Jul 07 2021 12:19 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

On the other hand, I unironically appreciate the Brewers' recreational softball uniforms.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 07 2021 12:21 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

Edgy MD wrote: It's pretty bold of the Brewskis to take advantage of the reschedule and switch up their strategy of using a sacrificial lamb against deGrom and instead burn Burnes in Game One against deGrom. They're putting their chips in sweeping the afternoon, but risking getting swept in the series in doing so. Before I knew that the Brewers would do this, I was hoping that the Mets would have deGrom pitch the night game against Burnes. deGrom's head and shoulders better than everybody this year. He should be going up against the opposing aces, whenever possible.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 07 2021 12:22 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

Willets Point wrote: On the other hand, I unironically appreciate the Brewers' recreational softball uniforms. Since Lefty's post, I can't get the Cubs Scouts out of my head.

Willets Point Jul 07 2021 12:22 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

Both aces surrender extra-base hits to leadoff hitters.

bmfc1 Jul 07 2021 12:37 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 07 2021 12:54 PM

2d and 3d, 1 out and no runs. McNeil needs to get his head out of his ass quick or JD can play 3B and Villar can move to 2B while McNeil goes and does what he really loves--play golf. Edit: That was mean, I'm sure he loves baseball but hit a frigging fly ball.

Lefty Specialist Jul 07 2021 12:39 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

Another missed opportunity. Burnes earns a merit badge.

Willets Point Jul 07 2021 01:22 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

The Incredible Diving Nimmo!

Edgy MD Jul 07 2021 01:30 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

Two runs on two hits. Maybe Incredible Pitching deGrom needs to reintroduce his curve. The close-your-eyes-and-swing-hard strategy is yielding modest dividends.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 07 2021 01:31 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

deGrom's ERA now close to Gibson's '68 mark of 1.12 -- 1.10.

Edgy MD Jul 07 2021 01:32 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

Everybody bunts wrong. Everybody.

Gwreck Jul 07 2021 01:43 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

Good thing we have 4 more innings to get back 2 runs. Wait, what's that you say? We're playing under idiotic arbitrary rules again?

Willets Point Jul 07 2021 01:54 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

Could use a Polar Bomb right here.

Willets Point Jul 07 2021 01:57 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

Halfway there. I'll take it.

Edgy MD Jul 07 2021 01:57 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

Running for Pete is fine, but they should have used Vlllar.

Gwreck Jul 07 2021 02:00 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

Edgy MD wrote: Running for Pete is fine, but they should have used Vlllar. Or Megill? I presume Villar is our best PH option for the pitcher's spot when that comes up next?

Edgy MD Jul 07 2021 02:01 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

Tying run on third. Go-ahead run on first. A chance for Conforto, captain of Flushing, to show his quality.

Edgy MD Jul 07 2021 02:04 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

Squeeze it, Luis!

Willets Point Jul 07 2021 02:05 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

Grumble, grumble.

Edgy MD Jul 07 2021 02:06 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

He squeezed not. Villar and Pillar available for the ninth.

bmfc1 Jul 07 2021 02:12 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

There's your answer to who gets sent down if JD ever returns. Peraza is out of options, Luis is not. Peraza has had big hits, Luis has not (right, Edgy?).

Edgy MD Jul 07 2021 02:19 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

Villar is kept dry.

Edgy MD Jul 07 2021 02:20 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

[BIGPURPLE]SHOOULY SHUCKING FITSTAINS!!![/BIGPURPLE]

G-Fafif Jul 07 2021 02:21 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

=bmfc1 post_id=70524 time=1625688762 user_id=73] Peraza has had big hits

So much prescience.

Willets Point Jul 07 2021 02:21 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

Save. Blown. deGrom. Can't lose.

A Boy Named Seo Jul 07 2021 02:22 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

Peraza is a player Hader

Edgy MD Jul 07 2021 02:25 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

Well, Hademonger, that's what you get for taking Diaz' place on the All Star Team.

G-Fafif Jul 07 2021 02:25 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

Shootout time.

Willets Point Jul 07 2021 02:25 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

Folks might get their 9 innings.

Gwreck Jul 07 2021 02:28 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

The extra runner is already an abomination. But then using the runner in innings 8 or 9 of a stupidly-shortened game? This is a desecration.

Edgy MD Jul 07 2021 02:29 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

This Tellez guy looks (and sounds) like one of the NFL players that would appear in a Burt Reynolds movie.

Johnny Lunchbucket Jul 07 2021 02:38 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

Oh for god sakes Diaz

Edgy MD Jul 07 2021 02:39 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

What a stupid way to give up the lead.

ashie62 Jul 07 2021 02:40 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

Diaz implodes.

Edgy MD Jul 07 2021 02:40 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

His slider has none of his whipping action.

Edgy MD Jul 07 2021 02:44 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

Milwaukee with another lefty to face three lefties for the Mets.

Johnny Lunchbucket Jul 07 2021 02:45 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

Fortunately we'll get that run right back. I predict

Gwreck Jul 07 2021 02:46 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

Are they shifting on Smith? Wound bunt here.

Edgy MD Jul 07 2021 02:46 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

Nope, McCann is the cleanup hitter.

Johnny Lunchbucket Jul 07 2021 02:53 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

McCann avoided hitting into a double and triple play in the same turn!

Edgy MD Jul 07 2021 02:53 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

Good at-bat from McCann. Even though he could well have been rung up on that pitch at the knees.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 07 2021 02:55 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

Mets win probability - 70%

batmagadanleadoff Jul 07 2021 02:55 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

100%

A Boy Named Seo Jul 07 2021 02:55 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

FUGGGGGG YEAHHHHHHHH

Marshmallowmilkshake Jul 07 2021 02:55 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

Squirrel!

Edgy MD Jul 07 2021 02:56 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

Let's see what McNeil looks like naked.

ashie62 Jul 07 2021 02:56 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

BOOKS!!

Willets Point Jul 07 2021 02:56 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

I love that I get the notification from my MLB app that the game is over before I see it on MLB.tv.

Willets Point Jul 07 2021 02:56 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

There's the walkoff, at last!

G-Fafif Jul 07 2021 02:57 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

Jeff McNuggets all around!

Johnny Lunchbucket Jul 07 2021 02:57 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

Smith runs like he doesn't have toes

Edgy MD Jul 07 2021 02:57 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

Smitty's baserunning speed = Mets secret weapon.

nymr83 Jul 07 2021 02:57 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

2 runs? deGrom sucks!

Edgy MD Jul 07 2021 02:58 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: Smith runs like he doesn't have toes This is true. Lots of violence in those strides.

TransMonk Jul 07 2021 02:59 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

That was a great game!

Lefty Specialist Jul 07 2021 03:00 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

Well, that was exhausting. But in a good way.

G-Fafif Jul 07 2021 03:01 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

“Hey, where's everybody going? It's still the bottom of the eighth!”

Benjamin Grimm Jul 07 2021 03:04 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

I'm so glad we didn't lose this game and have to count on Robert Stock to avoid a sweep.

Gwreck Jul 07 2021 03:06 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

We did win Monday so a sweep by the Brewers would have been unlikely. (Edit: you probably meant a doubleheader sweep, not a series sweep).

Benjamin Grimm Jul 07 2021 03:07 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

A sweep of the doubleheader, I meant.

Lefty Specialist Jul 07 2021 03:34 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I'm so glad we didn't lose this game and have to count on Robert Stock to avoid a sweep. So is Lloyd Bridges. https://64.media.tumblr.com/796cfbf170d53580c27f215c279d31fa/c0cfda9ec9a45b6c-e2/s500x750/76c309a8e3ab0d25815e62085f78a4728da7b8f4.gifv>

Lefty Specialist Jul 07 2021 03:47 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

Gary's reaction here is priceless. [TWEET]https://twitter.com/i/status/1412888512676966406[/TWEET]

Frayed Knot Jul 07 2021 04:21 PM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

Just catching up here after watching the game (starting around 4PM) via catch-up mode. Would have been a VERY frustrating loss but instead turns into a quite inspiring win. And now NYM bats have gotten to G. Cole, A. Chapman, C. Burnes, J. Hader, and B. Woodruff, to one degree or another, over the last four games. Two weeks ago we weren't hitting any hurlers.

Frayed Knot Jul 08 2021 06:46 AM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

Mike Vaccaro coming in hot (and accurately) that 7 inning split doubleheaders must be immediately stopped: https://nypost.com/2021/07/07/rob-manfreds-split-doubleheaders-are-stealing-from-baseball-fans/amp/?__twitter_impression=true Gary addressed this early on during Game 1 Apparently the official reasoning given was that the weather looked more iffy as the day/night went on so a single admission late-starting DH would make it less likely to get in both games, and that an early-starting single-admission DH would be unfair to the people who bought tickets in advance planning for a 7:10 Wednesday night first pitch. So Vaccaro's idea of Manfred simply banning split-admission 7-inning DH's would inevitably run up against the 'but we need an exception in this case' scenario which in turn would lead to teams conjuring up any excuse -- future weather, future travel, etc. -- to make an end run around the rule. It's like at one point during the Selig era where minimum distance standards to OF walls were adopted for any future stadium builds ... and then MLB promptly went about granting exemptions to any and all teams that requested a waiver: hence Cincy, Houston, YSII, etc.

Gwreck Jul 08 2021 08:25 AM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 08 2021 08:26 AM

Frayed Knot wrote: Gary addressed this early on during Game 1 Apparently the official reasoning given was that the weather looked more iffy as the day/night went on so a single admission late-starting DH would make it less likely to get in both games, and that an early-starting single-admission DH would be unfair to the people who bought tickets in advance planning for a 7:10 Wednesday night first pitch. So Vaccaro's idea of Manfred simply banning split-admission 7-inning DH's would inevitably run up against the 'but we need an exception in this case' scenario I think you missed the point. The issue is not that split doubleheaders exist. The problem is the length. Both games should be scheduled for 9 innings. None of the stated “concerns” mentioned above are exacerbated by 9 inning games, nor alleviated by making both 7 innings.

Edgy MD Jul 08 2021 08:26 AM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

"You know, the schedule's getting kind of tight. Fuck it. Let's play three quarters of a basketball game and call it a basketball game. Nobody will care." — The NBA, never

Gwreck Jul 08 2021 08:27 AM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

Exactly.

duan Jul 08 2021 08:29 AM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

I think I prefer 7 inning games now though ... this may simply be related to the fact that when there's a double header that starts early i'm far more likely to see it (the average game starts at 00:10 so i often listen to the first half inning while going to sleep and that's it) but there's something about the preponderance for starting pitchers to do a bigger proportion of the overall game that I like.

Gwreck Jul 08 2021 08:33 AM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

I would hate it, personally, but if there was a uniform rule change that every game was 7 innings, well, that would at least make some sense. I am unaware of any major professional sports league in which certain games are arbitrarily randomly scheduled for less than their regulation length.

duan Jul 08 2021 08:36 AM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

=Gwreck post_id=70650 time=1625754817 user_id=56] I am unaware of any major professional sports league in which certain games are arbitrarily randomly scheduled for less than their regulation length.

They sorta do this in limited overs cricket - not quite scheduled but if the weather is bad they go from a 50 over match down to a (say) 30 over match to try and get it in.

duan Jul 08 2021 08:38 AM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

and i won't begin to try and explain the Duckworth Lewis Method.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 08 2021 08:52 AM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

http://potg.ultimatemets.com/images/schaefer32.jpg> Cast your vote!

Frayed Knot Jul 08 2021 08:53 AM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

=Gwreck post_id=70646 time=1625754338 user_id=56] I think you missed the point. The issue is not that split doubleheaders exist. The problem is the length. Both games should be scheduled for 9 innings.

Well, it's both really.

Gary has been saying since the Yanqui series (and probably before that) that split 7-inning DH's are an abomination as they change people full prices for cut-down games.

At least with a single-admission DH those who pay for a ticket get 1.56 games for the price of one.

But since he went on about how unfair those were only to have the Mets do it the very next week he gave the official explanation as to why it was done.



As for simply making the games nine innings: MLB, for better or for worse, has decreed that DHs are seven innings these days and I don't see how it's within the power of a

team (both teams?, just the home team?, with permission from MLB?) to simply decide that today's double-dip is going to consist of nine innings each even though last time

and probably next time we're going to play a pair of sevens. If nothing else, choosing what length of game they feel like playing that day has a whole 'nother set of issues

that need to be dealt with starting with, but not limited to, telling the players that they're going double full-length today despite what the pre-season agreement says.





And mainly I was specifically addressing Vaccaro's argument that Manfred could and should simply decree to outlaw the split-7's. I personally would be fine with that but

somebody somewhere is going to argue, as the Mets apparently would have on Wednesday, that an exception needs to be made in this case and then the flood gates are

open for the same thing in other circumstances.

Gwreck Jul 08 2021 09:19 AM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

Frayed Knot wrote: but somebody somewhere is going to argue, as the Mets apparently would have on Wednesday, that an exception needs to be made in this case and then the flood gates are open for the same thing in other circumstances. I don't buy it. First, there would be no basis for the Mets to request some “exception,” nor is there a basis to suggest they would have even sought one. They would have just played 9 innings starting at 1:10 and 9 innings staring at 7:10. Second, the Commissioner has had no trouble making awful unilateral decisions that everyone has gone along with, so the odds that now a parade-of-horribles-type of “exceptions” would suddenly pop up are…very slim.

Edgy MD Jul 08 2021 09:32 AM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

I wouldn't reject a ban dogfighting, say, because I'd anticipate the city would come up with exceptions. I'd anticipate that, certainly.

Frayed Knot Jul 08 2021 09:39 AM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

=Gwreck post_id=70660 time=1625757573 user_id=56] They would have just played 9 innings starting at 1:10 and 9 innings staring at 7:10.

So you think it's within the power of the Mets to simply decide to play multiple nine inning games yesterday while every other DH over the past two seasons has been sevens?

Could they compromise and decide to play eight? Would the Brewers get a say in any of this? Would the union? Would the umps? Would MLB?

... or does Uncle Stevie hold all the power here?

Gwreck Jul 08 2021 10:02 AM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

All due respect, I think you've missed the point. No one said the Mets could make that call. As Vaccaro pointed out, Manfred needs to make the rule change. And if that change had been made, that's what the Mets would have done.

Edgy MD Jul 08 2021 10:29 AM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

Or, certainly, what they should have done.

Frayed Knot Jul 08 2021 11:24 AM Re: Brewers @ Mets IGT 7/7/21 - Game 1

With all due respect, I think you've missed every point I've made.