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IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

Frayed Knot Jul 15 2021 04:17 PM

Lemme tell you something you young whippersnappers, when I was a kid they played baseball games on All-Star week Thursday, not like these sissies playing today. Mets & Pirates finish up their 7/11 season series (7 games spread across 11 days). Celebratory Slurpees* will be consumed in honor, hopefully three of them. Marcus Stroman goes against someone not named Marcus Stroman, and in fact not named at all by the Pirates to this point. * old-timers will get this reference

bmfc1 Jul 15 2021 04:28 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

Let's hope that the weather holds up: https://weather.com/weather/tenday/l/USPA1290:1:US

Frayed Knot Jul 15 2021 04:29 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

Gary claims that it always rains when the Mets are in Pittsburgh.

bmfc1 Jul 15 2021 04:37 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

Maybe that's why Gary scheduled his days off for this weekend... before he knew he'd still be calling the games from Queens. I think that Howie is off this weekend, too. It will not be Gary Cohen doing play-by-play and PRAISE WHOMEVER! it won't be Gary Apple... it will be Gary Thorne: https://metsmerizedonline.com/2021/07/report-gary-thorne-returns-to-mets-booth-this-weekend.html/

Edgy MD Jul 15 2021 05:55 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

The Conservation of Gary Law is unbreakable.

Frayed Knot Jul 16 2021 02:32 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

Frayed Knot wrote: Marcus Stroman goes against someone not named Marcus Stroman, and in fact not named at all by the Pirates to this point. Pirates playing it cool tonight ... Chad Kuhl 28 y/o from Newark DE and U of Del. 9th round draft 2013 by the Bucs RH, 11 starts this season, 2-5; 4.73; 1.36 WHIP Did not pitch against the Mets in the pre-ASB series

kcmets Jul 16 2021 02:34 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

http://www.kcmets.com/CPF/NYM.png> Nimmo CF Lindor SS Smith LF Alonso 1B McNeil 2B Confortoboom RF Villar 3B McCann C Stroman P (6-7, 2.75)

kcmets Jul 16 2021 04:11 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

PIT afraid to post a lineup on Gameday, or Gameday is broken...

Edgy MD Jul 16 2021 04:19 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

Nothing on Twitter neither. Maybe a trade is a-brewin'.

MFS62 Jul 16 2021 04:38 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

Edgy MD wrote: Nothing on Twitter neither. Maybe a trade is a-brewin'. And, JD Davis, who has been activated, isn't in the lineup either. Hmmmm. Later

bmfc1 Jul 16 2021 04:41 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

Howie is away and Sir Sleepy, Ed Coleman, joins Wayne on the radio side.

Ceetar Jul 16 2021 04:47 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

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kcmets Jul 16 2021 04:57 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

Holy crap! Gary Thorne!

Frayed Knot Jul 16 2021 04:58 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

Is Gary T. not doing Orioles games anymore? Will Keith also call him 'Gar'?

kcmets Jul 16 2021 05:03 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

He had a long run in BAL, his google stuff says 'was' an Orioles guy so...

Frayed Knot Jul 16 2021 05:23 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

=kcmets post_id=71518 time=1626476618 user_id=53] He had a long run in BAL, his google stuff says 'was' an Orioles guy so...

From Wikipedia (so you know it's true): Thorne was removed from the Orioles' booth in the midst of a contract disagreement during the 2020 season, with the team invoking

the right not to pick up his contract through the schedule changes brought about by COVID-19. Thorne was let go by MASN entirely on January 23, 2021.



Now that I see that it sounds familiar but there seem to be a bunch of stuff that slipped my mind about baseball during the Covid era.

Edgy MD Jul 16 2021 05:26 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

Frayed Knot wrote: Is Gary T. not doing Orioles games anymore? Will Keith also call him 'Gar'? Gary was trying to negotiate his contract mid-season with the O's last year, and they told him to get stuffed and yanked him from the booth. He was let go officially in January.

Johnny Lunchbucket Jul 16 2021 05:32 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

Need Scooter to come thru here

Edgy MD Jul 16 2021 05:40 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

This is the regular-season debut for umpvertising.

Edgy MD Jul 16 2021 05:52 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

Frayed Knot wrote: Is Gary T. not doing Orioles games anymore? Will Keith also call him 'Gar'? Keith calling him Gar as we go to a rain delay.

Frayed Knot Jul 16 2021 05:54 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

Frayed Knot wrote: Gary claims that it always rains when the Mets are in Pittsburgh. And even in absentia, Gary makes the correct call. Now we have to see if we lose Stroman to another rain-csused short outing.

Edgy MD Jul 16 2021 05:55 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

Good point. The Mets may end up needing Eickhoff after all.

kcmets Jul 16 2021 05:56 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

That has to be the quickest call for the tarp in quite some time.

Edgy MD Jul 16 2021 06:40 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

I see the Pirates deploying a centerfielder named Reynolds against the Mets, and I'm thinking ... R.J.?

Edgy MD Jul 16 2021 06:48 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

Hard to believe the Mets haven't scored yet. The Pirates may be making a Kuhl change pretty soon.

bmfc1 Jul 16 2021 06:53 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

Edgy MD wrote: Hard to believe the Mets haven't scored yet. The Pirates may be making a Kuhl change pretty soon. Lindor sold the Mets down the Little River.

Edgy MD Jul 16 2021 06:54 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

Lindor had a lot of hits as a blond. I'm surprised he's gone back to the gunmetal gray.

bmfc1 Jul 16 2021 06:54 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

1st and 2d, nobody out and a pitcher that can't find the strike zone. 5 days off and the Mets are still just as dangerous.

Edgy MD Jul 16 2021 07:00 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

Rough start, but it's nice to see Stro finding his strikeout pitch again.

Edgy MD Jul 16 2021 07:04 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

I can't believe I'm watching my third Roundup ad of the game. How is that stuff still on the market?

Frayed Knot Jul 16 2021 07:05 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

Kuhl (and his gang) keep trying to give us runs but we keep giving those opps back.

Frayed Knot Jul 16 2021 07:09 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

Have they designated the GiDP guy for this inning yet or are they just playing it by ear?

Frayed Knot Jul 16 2021 07:22 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

4-1/2 innings worth of pitches just to get thru 3 for Stroman isn't helping matters either.

Frayed Knot Jul 16 2021 07:24 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

No, Gary. The DH does NOT "create another job" it merely replaces one with a different one.

Edgy MD Jul 16 2021 07:32 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

How does Stro' go up there swinging?

Edgy MD Jul 16 2021 07:34 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

Hey, Francisco, it's called running. OE: Shame on me. Looks like he strained something.

Johnny Lunchbucket Jul 16 2021 07:36 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

Uh oh

Edgy MD Jul 16 2021 07:37 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

Looks like Guillorme coming in. I was kind of thinking that we'd see J.D. Davis and move Villar to short.

Lefty Specialist Jul 16 2021 07:42 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDKIs0v120s

Frayed Knot Jul 16 2021 07:50 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

Just speculating, but Stroman is cocky so probably said something to provoke that.

Edgy MD Jul 16 2021 07:51 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

Somebody must've just called Stroman "high-strung." He hates that.

Frayed Knot Jul 16 2021 07:54 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

Actually it looks like Nogowski might have yapped first.

Edgy MD Jul 16 2021 07:54 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

It does, indeed. But when you light Stromans' fuse, it stays lit.

bmfc1 Jul 16 2021 07:55 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

Maybe Stroman was extra happy after Nogowski called timeout after timeout. That's on the flaccid HP umpire for granting it but perhaps Stroman was pissed at the batter.

Frayed Knot Jul 16 2021 07:56 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

Damn, another leadoff base runner! Don't they know by now that those kill the whole inning?

Johnny Lunchbucket Jul 16 2021 07:58 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

I'm sure Stro was already hot with the booshit hbp

Edgy MD Jul 16 2021 08:08 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

Buccos on borrowed time here. The Mets should've scored 10 by now.

kcmets Jul 16 2021 08:12 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

Are we not men? We are Difo!

Frayed Knot Jul 16 2021 08:15 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

Edgy MD wrote: Buccos on borrowed time here. The Mets should've scored 10 by now. Except that they have three hits!! Tough to claim you deserve more on that evidence.

Edgy MD Jul 16 2021 08:19 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

I certainly wouldn't say they deserve it.

Edgy MD Jul 16 2021 08:36 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

I realize Thorne is watching the game on a monitors, and that's not particularly fair, but as that homerun flies out, I've been getting the feeling all evening that he's been the last guy who knows the outcome on every play. That homer cleared the bleachers and he called it a pop-up.

Edgy MD Jul 16 2021 08:52 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

Eighth inning and the first time I've heard Steve Gelbs' voice. I didn't think he was on the job tonight.

G-Fafif Jul 16 2021 08:58 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

Gelbs was on earlier with some background on Dave Jauss's BP pitching prowess, but Steve did vanish for long while thereafter.

Edgy MD Jul 16 2021 09:09 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

Guillorme just pulled something of a Rey-o imitation out of his back pocket.

Edgy MD Jul 16 2021 09:14 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

Need a comeback in the ninth with a pitcher's spot coming up. Billy McKinney, come back!

G-Fafif Jul 16 2021 09:23 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

Keith tonight told a story about that one time he faced young Expo callup Randy Johnson, as Ronnie did recently. They each cited essentially the same frightening experience. Johnson never faced the Mets as an Expo.

Edgy MD Jul 16 2021 10:13 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

Yeah, that smelled funny to me. Maybe Keith (and maybe Ron?) saw him in spring training.

Johnny Lunchbucket Jul 17 2021 05:33 AM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

Keith must have momentarily mistaken himself for John Kruk. What a disastrous start for the SHaMs. Punked by a last place team, again, no response after a "fight", may have lost their best guy to an injury, Drew Smith coughs it up on his very first pitch of "leverage." But nobody can stop talking about how Alonso is terrific for winning a batting-practice contest.

Lefty Specialist Jul 17 2021 06:51 AM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

Miserable performance. Thorne actually refererred to the Mets as the Orioles once, which I thought was kind of funny. 0-12 with RISP says it all. This team needs a cattle prod.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 17 2021 07:38 AM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

He also kept calling Nimmo "Nemo". Someone should have silently corrected him after the first time. And then Keith started to call him "Nemo" but quickly backed up and said "Nimmo".

Edgy MD Jul 17 2021 07:45 AM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

Yeah, it really did feel like that was no one in the headsets helping him out. That fight was odd in that it seemed to fire up the Pirates and take all the life out of the Mets. I imagine that's what life with Stroman is like. Someday he's the spark that lights you up, and some days, it's like, "Oh, more of this shit again?" But coming out flat after a four-day break is a bad look.

G-Fafif Jul 17 2021 08:29 AM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

Stroman committing the sin of exuberance for retiring a batter evoked a memory of then truly unknown Terry Leach pumping a fist upon striking out Dusty Baker at Dodger Stadium on July 17, 1982 (almost 39 years to the day). When the Dodgers completed their inevitable ninth-inning comeback off Neil Allen, Baker, according to a few articles I was able to access, gestured angrily toward the Mets dugout, clarifying later that it was intended only for Leach and berating himself for stooping to Leach's level. Given his career arc and background, I've considered Leach kind of a proto-Dickey. Perhaps I should amend that to proto-Stroman. Leach for his part said he was just doing what he'd always done, which was a little surprising in that during is previous Met appearances, Terry didn't come off as particularly emotional on the mound and when he established himself a few years later, his manners couldn't have been much milder. It was a big deal for a day or two. When the Mets stomped the Dodgers the next afternoon, they were very much “this is for Leach,” particularly Stearns and Bamberger. Still, Terry didn't mention it or his apparent trademark emotion in his 2000 memoir.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 17 2021 09:38 AM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

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Frayed Knot Jul 17 2021 09:55 AM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 17 2021 09:56 AM

Yeah, this whole beating up on Pittsburgh part of the plan doesn't seem to be going very well so far. Need to sweep the final two just to sneak onto the right side of .500

bmfc1 Jul 17 2021 09:56 AM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

To steal from Stefon on SNL, that Mets loss had everything (note: with a win, everything is tolerable): They lost. They lost to a much worse team. It was boring. It was long. There were many pitching changes (some of these overlap). There was a rain delay. A Met got hurt. There was a fight which the other team started and it fired them up but not the Mets. The Mets did nothing to get back at the player that started the fight (specifically, it was their #69 who was not nice). Luis did something stupid (I don't remember anything specific but I'm sure that he did, let's go with using Familia). The HP ump sucked (did he get a commission for every TO he granted?).

Methead Jul 17 2021 10:25 AM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

I think we touched on this earlier in the season, but the word around the league has to be that if you mess with Stroman a little, you can get in his head. It's no surprise that's what teams are doing. It's on Stroman to chill a bit and think about the big picture.

Edgy MD Jul 17 2021 11:30 AM Re: IGT - Mets @ Pittsburgh, 7/15 ... make that 7/16

I don't know if he has a chill gear. I look at that footage of Richard Sherman going nuts in front of his in-laws house and I'm thinking that he's the same superhumanly intense Richard Sherman who was fascinating and entertaining when he'd tell off a media blowhard like Stephen A. Smith, altered into the crazy beast by maybe one or two too many beers. I don't know if some guys become the stars they are by just banging up on Ritalin and Red Bull, or some just constantly put themselves in a hyper-intense, chip-on-the shoulder, fight-or-flight state of mind to generate enough juices to use as a PED, but Marcus seems like the buddy that's great to have in your corner, but kind of scary for you to be in his, because he just never seems to let up on the combative posture.