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Trade Deadline Action 2021

Johnny Lunchbucket Jun 29 2021 08:21 AM

Marlinz trade submariner bullpenner Adam Cimber & OF Corey Dickerson to the Jayz for our old friend Joe Panik and a MiLB pitcher. Dickerson was okay, sidearming relievers always good to have around. Joe Panik? The prospect maybe is good but not even mentioned. I'm thinking it's time the Mets made a trade. They've cycled through the AAAA guys and prospects, need a shake up of some kind

cal sharpie Jun 29 2021 08:32 AM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

Hard to figure that trade from the Marlins POV.

Johnny Lunchbucket Jun 29 2021 08:47 AM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

Save $$. Get thru the season with a Proven Veteran Infielder. And I guess, they like the prospect. I find myself beginning to think about the post McNeil Mets. I dunno, he looks pissed off all the time, not getting along with Lindor in the field, probably has some value. I don;t have a trade in mind or a hard strategy here, and not looking to offload anyone, just, I dunno.

Ceetar Jun 29 2021 12:34 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

The Mets front office is a mess so I don't even know what to expect from them, and if they're prepared going forward. Like, two big parts of the math is the DH and the strike next season. I'm not sure Cohen's been here long enough (at least ,paying attention wise, he's been here for nearly a decade) to have a feel for the ownership and if they're going to get their back up about negotiations and end up with a strike. If there's no DH, you might want to resolve this Alonso/Smith thing. Smith hasn't been a butcher necessarily in the OF, but it's not ideal. Alonso isn't great at first either, and you definitely might be able to get surplus value there if you're trading him to a hitters park. Like it or not, pending whatever testing/strike does, Cano is back next year and better than McNeil. Do you just keep McNeil and lose Davis? McNeil has been really good, the entire time, except for this year, but it's an injury plagued small sample, so I dunno that it's anything but that. I assume he'd start to get the hang of playing with Lindor after some more reps, if there's really much issue there. I dunno, there's a lot of possibility, but nothing clear to me, about what the Mets should do. Need another serviceable starter for sure, maybe 2. Honestly I'd love to go to a 6-man somehow for like, July, and ease into a little more of a 'deGrom goes every 5th day regardless of off day' type schedule, hoping that the slower, 6-man rotation keeps him healthier in the meantime.

Marshmallowmilkshake Jun 29 2021 12:47 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

=Ceetar post_id=69465 time=1624991679 user_id=102] The Mets front office is a mess so I don't even know what to expect from them, and if they're prepared going forward.

I don't know if this is true. The front office was wise enough to collect and stockpile backups for when the unexpected wave(s) of injuries hit -- enough to have the team three games in first on June 29. The struggles we're seeing now would have hit this team a heck of a lot sooner under the old management, I have to suspect, because it didn't have such depth..


=Ceetar post_id=69465 time=1624991679 user_id=102]Like, two big parts of the math is the DH and the strike next season. I'm not sure Cohen's been here long enough (at least ,paying attention wise, he's been here for nearly a decade) to have a feel for the ownership and if they're going to get their back up about negotiations and end up with a strike.



If there's no DH, you might want to resolve this Alonso/Smith thing. Smith hasn't been a butcher necessarily in the OF, but it's not ideal. Alonso isn't great at first either, and you definitely might be able to get surplus value there if you're trading him to a hitters park.



Like it or not, pending whatever testing/strike does, Cano is back next year and better than McNeil.

Based on what? I think we've seen the last of Cano and believe he's more likely to be released than play for the Mets next year. Assuming we'll be on the hook for his contract minus the minimum paid by whomever takes a flyer on him. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if he's released his contract doesn't count against the luxury tax.


=Ceetar post_id=69465 time=1624991679 user_id=102]Do you just keep McNeil and lose Davis? McNeil has been really good, the entire time, except for this year, but it's an injury plagued small sample, so I dunno that it's anything but that. I assume he'd start to get the hang of playing with Lindor after some more reps, if there's really much issue there.



I dunno, there's a lot of possibility, but nothing clear to me, about what the Mets should do. Need another serviceable starter for sure, maybe 2. Honestly I'd love to go to a 6-man somehow for like, July, and ease into a little more of a 'deGrom goes every 5th day regardless of off day' type schedule, hoping that the slower, 6-man rotation keeps him healthier in the meantime.


This would throw off everyone's schedule.

Johnny Lunchbucket Jun 29 2021 02:08 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

Cano's not in my plans, and I'd be a little surprised were he in the Mets' but he (and the DH, etc) isn't really impacting my thinking about a trade NOW. I'm more along the lines of McNeil needing a "change of scenery" and the Mets needing a different kind of energy. I can't really explain it but this team for whatever reason isn't putting up enough points to survive a weakened pitching staff, and that fightfight stuff--they all played it off, but it was a real thing.

Ceetar Jun 29 2021 02:36 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

It's not so much about the plans persay, just sorta looking at the roster and where the 'extra' is. Cano is still a guy. He's still a Hall of Fame caliber hitter the last we saw him. He hasn't played against MLB level competition, but you don't just dump an asset for the hell of it. I'm not saying he's a big consideration, but you still have to actively decide what to do with him and what he's worth, or you're not worth anything as a GM. And that plays into if you're thinking of a "post Jeff McNeil" Mets team, even right now. Even if that's just "we're okay pretending Cano is our 2022 2B guy, because we expect a strike anyway and maybe we have more information when that resolves itself" and you trade McNeil for a package that helps you now. I dunno. But the front office is a mess, no matter what you think about the guys they took flyers on this year versus last year. I dunno, I kind feel like I'd rather have Porcello than Eickhoff if we're coming right down to it. Or Stephen Matz for that matter. Or Yoenis Cespedes. But they've fired like 2-3 GMs, Sandy is but isn't but is, but isn't? the decision maker. Will he be here next year? are there more dominos from the BS sexual assault fixer they hired? Is Zack Scott permanent? temporary? interim? is he making decisions with long term in mind? They're still working on the last admin's second choice as manager, and certainly couldn't have given a lot of thought to the hitting coach they quickly replaced Chili Davis with. So like, is that group motivated to "make a run for it?" are they going to trade prospects in July, or bank on Carrasco and the like returning? Are they thinking long term?

batmagadanleadoff Jun 29 2021 02:52 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 29 2021 02:58 PM

I'm not concerned about the Mets offense. I realize how bad it is this season, but I think it should revert to the mean, which, I believe, is a tremendous offense. I'm chalking all of this up to bad luck, a historically dead ball which is suppressing offenses everywhere, but particularly the Mets because of the humidor the Mets are using this season -- and because they play in a pitcher's park, which are impacted harder by deader balls. I think it's mostly external conditions that's causing the Mets offensive woes. That's al;so why the pitching is so good - with three all-star caliber starters, including one for the ages and two of the best relievers (Diaz and Loup). Put back a regular ball in play and take away the Citi Field humidor and the Mets'll hit better. And the pitching'll get worse. Including deGrom.

Ceetar Jun 29 2021 02:57 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

but particularly the Mets because of the humidor the Mets are using this season. This season? I've heard "rumors" they've been doing this for years but I can't find anything concrete. Was there something new? as for the ball itself, MLB seems particularly inept at that, and I'm not really sure what they were even aiming for, or what is 'normal' anymore. I do think the offense will be better than it has too for sure. And I really don't think the other teams have what it takes to really catch the Mets either.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 29 2021 03:00 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

=Ceetar post_id=69481 time=1625000269 user_id=102] as for the ball itself, MLB seems particularly inept at that, and I'm not really sure what they were even aiming for, or what is 'normal' anymore.

I think MLB's intent is irrelevant. At least to my post. The ball is deader than usual. By a lot. Nobody is disputing this. That's all that matters.

Ceetar Jun 29 2021 03:10 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

sure, it's the "put back a regular ball in play" I was focusing on. I don't even know what counts as regular now, as they've been manipulating it for years now to what seems like random effect.

Marshmallowmilkshake Jun 29 2021 03:40 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

It's not so much about the plans persay, just sorta looking at the roster and where the 'extra' is. Cano is still a guy. He's still a Hall of Fame caliber hitter the last we saw him. When we last saw him he was using both a juiced ball AND a juiced body. But the front office is a mess, no matter what you think about the guys they took flyers on this year versus last year. I dunno, I kind feel like I'd rather have Porcello than Eickhoff if we're coming right down to it. Or Stephen Matz for that matter. Or Yoenis Cespedes. But they've fired like 2-3 GMs, Sandy is but isn't but is, but isn't? the decision maker. Will he be here next year? are there more dominos from the BS sexual assault fixer they hired? Is Zack Scott permanent? temporary? interim? is he making decisions with long term in mind? They're still working on the last admin's second choice as manager, and certainly couldn't have given a lot of thought to the hitting coach they quickly replaced Chili Davis with. So like, is that group motivated to "make a run for it?" are they going to trade prospects in July, or bank on Carrasco and the like returning? Are they thinking long term? I disagree again. The difference isn't between Porcello and Eickhoff, it's between Porcello and Walker. Eickhoff is an insurance pickup they hoped never to use and is going to be the first guy sent back to upstate New York when a live arm returns. Porcello was counted on to be a fifth starter at best and and at worst the long reliever/first guy called on after an injury. It's the difference between Kevin Pillar and Billy Hamilton. You want Cespedes instead of Pillar?

Ceetar Jun 29 2021 03:48 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

I don't have the energy to subjectively rank last year's bench versus this year. or 2019 for that matter, since 2020 was stupid and unfair. Absolutely I want Cespedes instead of Pillar. It's criminal that Yoenis doesn't have a job right now.

Gwreck Jun 29 2021 03:50 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

=Ceetar post_id=69465 time=1624991679 user_id=102]The Mets front office is a mess so I don't even know what to expect from them

What do you have to back up this claim? Baseball operations has had Zack Scott and Sandy Alderson in place for months.

Edgy MD Jun 29 2021 04:10 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

=Ceetar post_id=69476 time=1624998979 user_id=102]He's still a Hall of Fame caliber hitter the last we saw him.

Well, he was probably the best hitter in the National League at his position, after being pedestrian the previous year and returning to performance enhancing drugs and getting popped for the second time in his career. Defensively, if he wasn't a liability, he sure was close. And this is over a 50-game sample.



To reward him for his drugging while keeping him around and reasonably expecting him to either revert to previous form or continue to try to get away with cheating would be embarrassing, but the price is high to let him go, so maybe the embarrassment is worth what they think he'll bring. But I think they cut and run.

Ceetar Jun 29 2021 04:17 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

=Gwreck post_id=69489 time=1625003455 user_id=56] =Ceetar post_id=69465 time=1624991679 user_id=102]The Mets front office is a mess so I don't even know what to expect from them

What do you have to back up this claim? Baseball operations has had Zack Scott and Sandy Alderson in place for months.


Months! Months! Must be a smooth oiled machine, surely. Whole Months!

Edgy MD Jun 29 2021 07:54 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

I'm not sure how to respond to that. It's the first year under a new owner.

Gwreck Jun 29 2021 08:23 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

=Ceetar post_id=69494 time=1625005056 user_id=102] =Gwreck post_id=69489 time=1625003455 user_id=56] =Ceetar post_id=69465 time=1624991679 user_id=102]The Mets front office is a mess so I don't even know what to expect from them

What do you have to back up this claim? Baseball operations has had Zack Scott and Sandy Alderson in place for months.


Months! Months! Must be a smooth oiled machine, surely. Whole Months!


You made the claim that they're a mess. So you're saying that you just made it up and have no basis for saying so?



Btw, since Porter departed, they signed Taijuan Walker and negotiated Lindor's extension. Seems fairly competent…

batmagadanleadoff Jul 03 2021 12:34 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=69480 time=1624999947 user_id=68] I'm not concerned about the Mets offense. I realize how bad it is this season, but I think it should revert to the mean, which, I believe, is a tremendous offense. I'm chalking all of this up to bad luck, a historically dead ball which is suppressing offenses everywhere, but particularly the Mets because of the humidor the Mets are using this season -- and because they play in a pitcher's park, which are impacted harder by deader balls. I think it's mostly external conditions that's causing the Mets offensive woes. That's al;so why the pitching is so good - with three all-star caliber starters, including one for the ages and two of the best relievers (Diaz and Loup). Put back a regular ball in play and take away the Citi Field humidor and the Mets'll hit better. And the pitching'll get worse. Including deGrom.

I left out one of the biggest reasons for why offense is down all around this season and run prevention is up: because the use of Spider Tack and other chemically engineered super sticky substances has reached a crisis or tipping point this season, suppressing offense to such a degree that MLB was compelled to step in and do something about it mid-season.



I bring this up because now that MLB is enforcing the use of those sticky substances, offensive numbers are now coming up again and spin rates are coming down significantly.

bmfc1 Jul 04 2021 05:57 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

Send him up against the Phillies! https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/07/mets-interested-in-asdrubal-cabrera.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+MlbTradeRumors+%28MLB+Trade+Rumors%29

Edgy MD Jul 04 2021 07:43 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

I guessed that this afternoon.

Lefty Specialist Jul 05 2021 05:22 AM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

No. Asdrubal isn't enough of an offensive upgrade vs Villar or Guillorme at this point. And he's not a good fielder, which both of them are.

seawolf17 Jul 05 2021 05:28 AM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

Yeah, I don't get what Asdrubal brings us that we don't already have.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 05 2021 05:32 AM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

I agree. He was a terrific Met, especially in 2016, but he wouldn't be better than Villar or Guillorme. Maybe he'd be better than Peraza, but that's not where the Mets most need to upgrade.

Edgy MD Jul 19 2021 06:43 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

It strikes me that the Asdrubal Market may have shifted a bit in the last 48 hours.

ashie62 Jul 22 2021 01:42 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

The Rockies let Arenado go, would they unload Trevor Story. It's not like Lindor is coming back soon so why not. Story is a free agent next year so the Rocks could make a qualifying offer and get a draft pick if they hold him.

Ceetar Jul 22 2021 01:58 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

Welcome to the only ongoing story of the Colorado Rockies since like February, where will Story go?

smg58 Jul 22 2021 02:25 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

Pitching has to be a higher priority, but I would at least do a price check on Story.

Edgy MD Jul 22 2021 03:01 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

Don't know what kind of indicator it is, but he's having a falloff season. It may all be non-predictative, but with both Villar and Guillorme out-rate-statting him, and every reason to expect an eventual return this season from Lindor, he certainly wouldn't be at the top of my list.

Frayed Knot Jul 22 2021 06:10 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

The still slugging 41 y/o Nelson Cruz [19 HRs, 907 OPS] to the Rays in a multi player deal. The Twins were expected to complete in the Central this year but aren't, and the Rays look to be in a season-long dogfight with the Sox for top spot in the East. I have no idea about the particulars in the deal but it's logical thinking at least for both sides.

Edgy MD Jul 22 2021 08:01 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

Oh, shit, I just figured out who the Mets are going to get.

Willets Point Jul 22 2021 10:53 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

Edgy MD wrote: Oh, shit, I just figured out who the Mets are going to get. Are you going to share this with the rest of us?

Edgy MD Jul 23 2021 06:31 AM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

Folks won't like it. Adam Wainwright. Write it down.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 23 2021 06:43 AM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

He'd be welcome. We accepted Orel Hershiser, didn't we?

Lefty Specialist Jul 23 2021 07:02 AM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

I'd take Wainwright in a heartbeat, but I don't think the Cards would do it and I think he'd rather retire than leave St Louis.

Edgy MD Jul 23 2021 07:11 AM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

I have been to the future. From my perspective, it's already happened.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 23 2021 07:19 AM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

So how did the trade work out? Who did we give up? Did the Mets win the division?

Johnny Lunchbucket Jul 23 2021 07:21 AM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

Wainwright to me seems like a dude the Braves would get. I already think he's a Brave in fact

bmfc1 Jul 23 2021 10:35 AM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/1418611645836836867[/TWEET] [TWEET]https://twitter.com/AnthonyDiComo/status/1418608124290768896[/TWEET]

seawolf17 Jul 23 2021 10:42 AM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

"Ageless." No, he's almost my age. That's definitely "an" age.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 23 2021 10:54 AM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

Ageless, timeless. Lace and fineness.

Ceetar Jul 23 2021 12:40 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

That's agelessly quite a few years older than his pitching coach.

Edgy MD Jul 23 2021 12:55 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

The official position is that Adam Wainwright lacked Hill's "seasoning." The Mets seem to like dealing with the Rays these days.

ashie62 Jul 24 2021 03:34 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

Uh, Scherzer got scratched today... hmmm.

G-Fafif Jul 25 2021 04:47 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

ESPN reporting Adam Frazier to the Padres.

bmfc1 Jul 27 2021 05:27 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

An ex-Met for an ex-Met... and a quality reliever is traded within the division. [TWEET]https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/1420159922264739841[/TWEET]

smg58 Jul 27 2021 07:28 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

The Mariners are only a game out of a wildcard, Toro is replacement level, and Smith is not exactly a prospect. Why?

smg58 Jul 27 2021 07:29 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

Edgy MD wrote: Folks won't like it. Adam Wainwright. Write it down. I'd still be OK with it.

bmfc1 Jul 27 2021 08:29 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

More on SEA: https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/mariners/mariners-trade-kendall-graveman-rafael-montero-to-astros-for-abraham-toro-joe-smith/

G-Fafif Jul 28 2021 11:33 AM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

[tweet]https://twitter.com/jeffpassan/status/1420433779089420291[/tweet]

smg58 Jul 28 2021 03:34 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

Marte is somebody the Mets looked at for a while, so naturally he's now having a career year. Luzardo is a once-elite prospect who's had trouble logging in innings (granted last year was not his fault) and has not looked ready for the show this year. I think it's a great low-risk, high-upside gamble for the Marlins, but it may work out well for the A's too.

Willets Point Jul 28 2021 10:13 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

Joey Gallo going to the Yankees. In better news, apparently Max Scherzer will not waive his 10/5 rights for a trade to the Bronx. Seems like there was a time not long ago when all the top stars wanted to be traded to the Yankees and then had those gross press conferences where they talked about this being their best chance to win a championship. I'm glad those days are over.

seawolf17 Jul 29 2021 07:31 AM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

Gallo might just hit 80 homers at YS3 the rest of the year with that short porch. (Of course, he'll also strike out 150 times.)

G-Fafif Jul 29 2021 09:50 AM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

Blue Jays get a grip on Brad Hand, dispatching catcher Riley Adams to the Nationals in exchange.

bmfc1 Jul 29 2021 11:54 AM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

I'm pretty sure that Hand was almost a Met twice--Sandy said that he would have gotten him from CLE if Cohen took over sooner and then the Mets offered him a contract to be a set-up man but he wanted a one-year deal as a closer so he could return to FA as more than a set-up man (how's that worked out so far?). If the Mets had Hand would they have signed Loup?

smg58 Jul 29 2021 03:22 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

Relief pitching is a crap shoot, and the Mets have learned the hard way that aiming high doesn't make it any less of one. The Loup signing looks great right now. The May signing looks kind of meh though. Hand wouldn't have been worth it.

Ceetar Jul 29 2021 04:25 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

Realmuto or Springer though..

ashie62 Jul 29 2021 04:42 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

Anthony Rizzo to the Yanquis.

Edgy MD Jul 29 2021 04:42 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

Bullpen shmullpen.

nymr83 Jul 29 2021 05:02 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

Rizzo and Gallo to the Yankees? someone check George Steinbrenner's pulse, is he still alive?

G-Fafif Jul 29 2021 08:11 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

[tweet]https://twitter.com/jeffpassan/status/1420911145758691330[/tweet]

batmagadanleadoff Jul 29 2021 08:18 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

[tweet]https://twitter.com/jeffpassan/status/1420911145758691330[/tweet] According to multiple reports tonight, the three-time Cy Young award-winner and the Nats' starting shortstop are both being dealt to the Los Angeles Dodgers for a prospect package that includes catcher Keibert Ruiz and right-hander Josiah Gray, the top player and pitcher in the Dodgers' organization, and “two mid-range prospects” as the Athletic's Ken Rosenthal described them. https://www.federalbaseball.com/2021/7/29/22601106/washington-nationals-reportedly-trade-max-scherzer-trea-turner-to-los-angeles-dodgers-four-prospects

batmagadanleadoff Jul 29 2021 08:21 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 29 2021 08:22 PM

If the season ended today, the Dodgers would be playing in the one-and-done Wild Card game. So they're upping the odds that they'll have an ace starting pitcher for that game if that scenario plays out, among other things.

Edgy MD Jul 29 2021 08:21 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

That would be a Holy Guacamole situation. I figured Seagar was due back shortly. Is the idea to use Turner at short for a few days and then move him to second?

bmfc1 Jul 29 2021 09:05 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

If we had a preference, Scherzer would become a Padre as the Mets are done with SD but have 7 games in August with LA.

G-Fafif Jul 29 2021 09:25 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

Schwarber to the Red Sox, Hudson to the Padres, Nationals to the drawing board.

Ceetar Jul 29 2021 10:09 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

Might not be anyone left when Sandy and Steve wake up.

bmfc1 Jul 30 2021 06:14 AM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

Some of the players that we might hear about today: MIN: Berrios (SD might go for him to try and counter the Scherzer deal) CHC: Baez, Bryant, Hendricks, Davies, Kimbrel COL: Story, Jon Gray (per Wikipedia: "Since he was 10 years old, Gray has been interested in ghosts and he uses equipment for ghost hunting in hotels.") TEX: K. Gibson

seawolf17 Jul 30 2021 06:17 AM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

Someone's going to overpay for Berrios today. The question is whether it's us or the Padres.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 30 2021 06:50 AM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

I think I'm hoping for a deal that brings us Baez and Davies.

ashie62 Jul 30 2021 08:34 AM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

Corey Seager had a setback with his hand. Mets get Bryant I say. I hope Brett Baty or Mauricio stay put.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 30 2021 08:52 AM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

I think Mauricio or Vientos are more likely to go than Baty or Alvarez. I think JD Davis goes to the Cubs if a deal is made.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 30 2021 09:56 AM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

I can't say that I'm particularly sorry to see Trea Turner leave the National League East.

seawolf17 Jul 30 2021 10:53 AM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

=seawolf17 post_id=72889 time=1627647427 user_id=91] Someone's going to overpay for Berrios today. The question is whether it's us or the Padres.

Or the Blue Jays. Didn't see that coming at all.

nymr83 Jul 30 2021 11:05 AM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

The Mets are going to disappoint us all arent they?

nymr83 Jul 30 2021 11:29 AM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

Atlanta gets Eddie Rosario and Adam Duvall in separate deals. Alderson...fell asleep?

G-Fafif Jul 30 2021 11:41 AM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

[tweet]https://twitter.com/bnightengale/status/1421163086598205443[/tweet]

seawolf17 Jul 30 2021 11:42 AM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

Norris was that guy who was living in a van down by the river or something when he first came up, right? Toronto or Arizona or something.

G-Fafif Jul 30 2021 11:47 AM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

Norris was that guy who was living in a van down by the river or something when he first came up, right? Toronto or Arizona or something. [tweet]https://twitter.com/bnightengale/status/1421163618838609924[/tweet]

kcmets Jul 30 2021 12:01 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 30 2021 12:05 PM

"Mets Stand Pat (do bupkis) at Trade Deadline, Hoping Not to Surrender First Place in the Standings in Coming Weeks

seawolf17 Jul 30 2021 12:02 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

SNY promoting a 5:30pm "post-deadline" conference to discuss... something, I guess? I guess we still have two hours.

G-Fafif Jul 30 2021 12:20 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

[tweet]https://twitter.com/jeffpassan/status/1421173569489362944[/tweet]

TransMonk Jul 30 2021 12:27 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

I saw some tweet this morning stating that this was the 4th time that the Mets were in first in the division on the morning of the deadline by 3.5+ games. 1986, 1988 and 2006 were the previous years (all first place finishes). I haven't fact checked, but it seems right. How can they not find pieces to push through the finish line if that is the case?

TransMonk Jul 30 2021 12:32 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

Curious to me that the White Sox are adding multiple reinforcements and Milwaukee has not (yet), given they have nearly the same record and division lead. If I'm Milwaukee...I'd covet Kris Bryant.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 30 2021 12:55 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

UPDATE (2:53 p.m.): MLB.com's Mark Feinsand reports “The Mets have a deal in place pending medicals to acquire Javier Baez from the Cubs, per source.”

G-Fafif Jul 30 2021 12:55 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

[tweet]https://twitter.com/jeffpassan/status/1421181421046181888[/tweet]

seawolf17 Jul 30 2021 12:57 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

Kind of fascinated to see who's left to take the field for the Red Wings tonight, considering the Nats have dealt pretty much the entire major league roster.

G-Fafif Jul 30 2021 01:01 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

[tweet]https://twitter.com/ken_rosenthal/status/1421183933010661392[/tweet]

G-Fafif Jul 30 2021 01:14 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

[tweet]https://twitter.com/feinsand/status/1421186674068008965[/tweet]

seawolf17 Jul 30 2021 01:14 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

I think all these trades are just a ploy to revitalize the airline industry.

G-Fafif Jul 30 2021 01:15 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

[tweet]https://twitter.com/jeffpassan/status/1421185599445286920[/tweet]

stevejrogers Jul 30 2021 01:49 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

=TransMonk post_id=72912 time=1627669649 user_id=71] I saw some tweet this morning stating that this was the 4th time that the Mets were in first in the division on the morning of the deadline by 3.5+ games. 1986, 1988 and 2006 were the previous years (all first place finishes). I haven't fact checked, but it seems right. How can they not find pieces to push through the finish line if that is the case?

1986 NADA! Ed Lynch sent to Chicago a month earlier for prospects and Lee Mazzilli was picked up as a free agent a few days after



1988 NADA! Traded for Edwin Nunez and signed FA Bob McClure a couple of weeks before hand.



2006 A Night In Miami

Whatever plans Omar Minaya had were scrapped when word came of Duaner Sanchez' cab ride accident. Xavier Nady was sent to Pittsburgh for pen depth in Roberto Hernandez, as well as starter Xavier Nady

G-Fafif Jul 30 2021 01:51 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

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G-Fafif Jul 30 2021 01:56 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

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Benjamin Grimm Jul 30 2021 01:59 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

Must be a crappy day to be a Cubs fan.

TransMonk Jul 30 2021 02:02 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

I saw some tweet this morning stating that this was the 4th time that the Mets were in first in the division on the morning of the deadline by 3.5+ games. 1986, 1988 and 2006 were the previous years (all first place finishes). I haven't fact checked, but it seems right. How can they not find pieces to push through the finish line if that is the case? 1986 NADA! Ed Lynch sent to Chicago a month earlier for prospects and Lee Mazzilli was picked up as a free agent a few days after 1988 NADA! Traded for Edwin Nunez and signed FA Bob McClure a couple of weeks before hand. 2006 A Night In Miami Whatever plans Omar Minaya had were scrapped when word came of Duaner Sanchez' cab ride accident. Xavier Nady was sent to Pittsburgh for pen depth in Roberto Hernandez, as well as starter Xavier Nady I just meant in general...not that those teams didn't also make moves. How could the 2021 team not find pieces? That's what I meant. *all meaningless now that the Baez deal happened anyways.

G-Fafif Jul 30 2021 02:10 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

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G-Fafif Jul 30 2021 02:11 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

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stevejrogers Jul 30 2021 02:27 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

I saw some tweet this morning stating that this was the 4th time that the Mets were in first in the division on the morning of the deadline by 3.5+ games. 1986, 1988 and 2006 were the previous years (all first place finishes). I haven't fact checked, but it seems right. How can they not find pieces to push through the finish line if that is the case? 1986 NADA! Ed Lynch sent to Chicago a month earlier for prospects and Lee Mazzilli was picked up as a free agent a few days after 1988 NADA! Traded for Edwin Nunez and signed FA Bob McClure a couple of weeks before hand. 2006 A Night In Miami Whatever plans Omar Minaya had were scrapped when word came of Duaner Sanchez' cab ride accident. Xavier Nady was sent to Pittsburgh for pen depth in Roberto Hernandez, as well as starter Xavier Nady I just meant in general...not that those teams didn't also make moves. How could the 2021 team not find pieces? That's what I meant. *all meaningless now that the Baez deal happened anyways. Didn't mean anything by it, I was just regurgitating the historical data of moves those Met teams made on the 7/30 non-waiver deadline.

Ceetar Jul 31 2021 10:28 AM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

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bmfc1 Jul 31 2021 11:30 AM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

Deesha wrote that they wanted Dom and Mauricio. I'd love to know the truth b/c Maeda would have been a good fit.

smg58 Jul 31 2021 01:28 PM Re: Trade Deadline Action 2021

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Must be a crappy day to be a Cubs fan. Definitely a sad day -- this is the core of a team that won the Cubs a world championship after more than a century of futility, after all -- but I think it was clear enough for a while that a rebuild was in order and this day was coming.