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Edgy MD Jul 02 2021 12:01 PM

That endorsement for R.A. Dickey for the Mets Holla Fame in a thread below came as a surprise.With Edgardo Alfonso, Ron Darling, and Jon Matlack being inducted into the Mets Hall of Fame this summer, we see the team trying to make up for some lost time. Dickey is not unqualified certainly, but he wasn't on my frontlist. So, the Mets call you and say that they will henceforth be inducting one figure per year, and you're on the committee. Each committee member gets to nominate one figure, and then you can all get together and fight it out. Who is your nominee, understanding that you cannot nominate current inductees and electees (I shouldn't have to say that, but I do), nor anyone nominated by another cat before you. We must have unique nominees, dig? The initial goal here is to pursue the curiousity of the distinct cases, rather than establishing overwhelming support for the leading case. Current Inductees Include Tommie Agee Gary Carter Frank Cashen John Franco Dwight Gooden Jerry Grote Bud Harrelson Keith Hernandez Davey Johnson Gil Hodges Cleon Jones Ralph Kiner Jerry Koosman Ed Kranepool Tug McGraw Bob Murphy Johnny Murphy Lindsey Nelson Joan Whitney Payson Mike Piazza Tom Seaver William Shea Rusty Staub Casey Stengel Darryl Strawberry George Weiss Mookie Wilson Current Not-Yet-Inducted Electee Include Edgardo Alfonzo Ron Darling Jon Matlack

MFS62 Jul 02 2021 12:16 PM Re: Pick One

Al Jackson Later

Benjamin Grimm Jul 02 2021 12:21 PM Re: Pick One

David Wright

Edgy MD Jul 02 2021 12:23 PM Re: Pick One

Those were the first two I expected to come off the board. I suspect Wright's induction in 2023 or 2024 has already been a-scheduled.

kcmets Jul 02 2021 12:29 PM Re: Pick One

I don't pay close attention; but kinda surprised that Fonz, Matlack and Ronnie aren't already in. Edgardo was like Mr. Met for years.

Gwreck Jul 02 2021 12:39 PM Re: Pick One

Al Leiter.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 02 2021 12:39 PM Re: Pick One

I re-arranged Mets player HOF'ers in chronological order of their Mets debut. I find this arrangement more helpful. 1983 was the most bountiful season for Mets HOF'ers debuting (three). Ed Kranepool Cleon Jones Tug McGraw Bud Harrelson Jerry Grote Tom Seaver Jerry Koosman Tommie Agee Jon Matlack Rusty Staub Mookie Wilson Darryl Strawberry Keith Hernandez Ron Darling Dwight Gooden Gary Carter John Franco Edgardo Alfonzo Mike Piazza

Marshmallowmilkshake Jul 02 2021 12:54 PM Re: Pick One

Bobby Valentine Terry Collins Sid Fernandez Agree on Wright -- natch! -- and Leiter The PED accusation makes it more challenging, but Todd Hundley

Edgy MD Jul 02 2021 12:56 PM Re: Pick One

Hey man, ONE!

G-Fafif Jul 02 2021 12:59 PM Re: Pick One

Next on merit: Howard Johnson Next with time as a factor: Ron Hunt

Marshmallowmilkshake Jul 02 2021 01:13 PM Re: Pick One

Edgy MD wrote: Hey man, ONE! Sorry about that! Friday of a long week. Terry Collins!

Edgy MD Jul 02 2021 01:15 PM Re: Pick One

=G-Fafif post_id=69939 time=1625252369 user_id=55] Next on merit: Howard Johnson Next with time as a factor: Ron Hunt

I appreciate your style, but we ask that you whittle down to one and hope somebody grabs your other candidate.

G-Fafif Jul 02 2021 01:17 PM Re: Pick One

Edgy MD wrote: =G-Fafif post_id=69939 time=1625252369 user_id=55] Next on merit: Howard Johnson Next with time as a factor: Ron Hunt I appreciate your style, but we ask that you whittle down to one and hope somebody grabs your other candidate.

Ron Hunt, 80 this year.

Edgy MD Jul 02 2021 01:20 PM Re: Pick One

Good call, HoJo would agree, I hope.

G-Fafif Jul 02 2021 01:25 PM Re: Pick One

BTW, I hope future (annual) inductions take the approach being taken with the upcoming class, with several generations represented at once to both make up for lost time and make it extra special for fans who can connect to different parts of their lives and the franchise's life. “Pick one” is fine as a Metsullectual exercise, but “pick a bunch at a time” is how I hope the NYMHOF committee proceeds.

Fman99 Jul 02 2021 01:28 PM Re: Pick One

Another vote for El Sid

Benjamin Grimm Jul 02 2021 01:30 PM Re: Pick One

I have nine more names that I would nominate, beyond those that have already been officially placed on the table.

Chad ochoseis Jul 02 2021 01:37 PM Re: Pick One

Jesse Orosco. Don't know that I'd vote for him, necessarily, but he has a case.

Edgy MD Jul 02 2021 01:44 PM Re: Pick One

BTW, I hope future (annual) inductions take the approach being taken with the upcoming class, with several generations represented at once to both make up for lost time and make it extra special for fans who can connect to different parts of their lives and the franchise's life. “Pick one” is fine as a Metsullectual exercise, but “pick a bunch at a time” is how I hope the NYMHOF committee proceeds. Understood. But how long should respectful restraint yield to respectful need to catch up, I wonder? Onsies can be so much more momentous. I guess the answer should be "multiple guys at a time until they have one for every year since 1981." At that rate, Jon Matlack would bring us up to 2010, I think. Another vote for El Sid Well, I guess its less a call for a vote than a call for an adopted cause, uniquely your own, but Sid is available because Milkshake tried to horde a bunch of guys. A worthy name. Benjamin Grimm wrote: I have nine more names that I would nominate, beyond those that have already been officially placed on the table. Me too. And I'm not even on record here yet. Lest it go unrecognized, non-playing candidacies are certainly encouraged.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 02 2021 01:46 PM Re: Pick One

Jesse Orosco was one of my nine.

Edgy MD Jul 02 2021 01:47 PM Re: Pick One

Mine also.

G-Fafif Jul 02 2021 02:13 PM Re: Pick One

The only “ONE AND ONLY ONE” I'd consider as “this guy should go in on his own because he's this guy” is Wright, and I'd pair the occasion with 5 rising to the rafters. The irony would be David is is as selfless a character as one could imagine and he'd happily share his day with any 5 Mets.

Edgy MD Jul 02 2021 02:27 PM Re: Pick One

Certainly, I was just thundering with the idea that each cause deserves it's own advocate.

Johnny Lunchbucket Jul 02 2021 02:32 PM Re: Pick One

Letter certainly deserves in.

Frayed Knot Jul 02 2021 02:41 PM Re: Pick One

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: Letter certainly deserves in. But, but, but ... HE HAD KAZMIR TRADED!!!!

MFS62 Jul 02 2021 02:42 PM Re: Pick One

I don't think any of the others mentioned in this thread wore a Mets uniform (player or coach) for more years than "Little" Al Jackson. He goes back to the very first year and was a player or mentor to countless Mets players for a half century. He IS Mr. Met. He deserves to be honored for his contributions to the team, both on and off the field. Later

Gwreck Jul 02 2021 02:43 PM Re: Pick One

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I have nine more names that I would nominate, beyond those that have already been officially placed on the table. By contrast, I don't think there are 9 names in total that I would put in. Even including Reyes and Beltran (who have some issues with their candidacies). I'm not a fan of marginal candidates being inducted. Maybe I could get to 9 if I included Gary and Howie.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 02 2021 02:47 PM Re: Pick One

My nine are five players, two managers, one broadcaster, and one coach. (And the players include Orosco, as mentioned above, and Reyes and Beltran, who I agree are problematic. I would nominate them, but not sure I would induct them.)

Edgy MD Jul 02 2021 07:30 PM Re: Pick One

Beltran is marginal? Ouch.

stevejrogers Jul 02 2021 08:20 PM Re: Pick One

I don't think any of the others mentioned in this thread wore a Mets uniform (player or coach) for more years than "Little" Al Jackson. He goes back to the very first year and was a player or mentor to countless Mets players for a half century. He IS Mr. Met. He deserves to be honored for his contributions to the team, both on and off the field. Later He's getting the HOF Achievement Award this year. Bob Mandt, Harold Minor and Pete Flynn were past recipients.

Gwreck Jul 03 2021 04:15 AM Re: Pick One

Edgy MD wrote: Beltran is marginal? Ouch. No, Beltran is a no-doubt Mets Hall-of-Famer. But there's that side issue that would prevent him from being the next inductee. Same with Reyes, who on statistics alone is a no-doubt candidate, but there is an off-the-field issue. No personal affronts intended, but Al Jackson, Ron Hunt, and RA Dickey were the marginal candidates to which I was referring.

Johnny Lunchbucket Jul 03 2021 07:44 AM Re: Pick One

I'm a Big Hall guy when it comes to Mets HoF, and a small-hall guy wrt uni retirement. You definitely can't be strong on the former and weak on the latter, so my Met HoF includes all guys we remember well and were significant in achievement, meaningful and accomplished. I might draw a line somewhere around Granderson. I mean, he'd be deep in the line but I'd consider him and all above