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IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

Fman99
Aug 02 2021 09:30 AM

Tylor Megill (1-0, 2.04 ERA) versus the ever prescient TBD toeing the rubber for Miami.



Anyone besides me still think of them as the "Florida Marlins" when the team name is not presented in full?

kcmets
Aug 02 2021 09:43 AM
Re: IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

Anyone besides me still think of them as the "Florida Marlins" when the team name is not presented in full?

Well, the Fishsticks, but yes on the Florida part.

Centerfield
Aug 02 2021 09:47 AM
Re: IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

The Mets are depressing.

Marshmallowmilkshake
Aug 02 2021 10:28 AM
Re: IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

=Centerfield post_id=73174 time=1627919231 user_id=65]
The Mets are depressing.



Let me fix that for you:



The Mets are in first place on Aug. 2!



We should be giddy. They're leading the division despite all kinds of bad things thrown at them. I get that we're not used to being in first place in August. Now, 1978? That was depressing!



The Marlins are depressing. Bad team. An owner determined to turn what was a colorful ballpark into something blander than his playing days interview quotes and is shocked that Mystique and Aura didn't follow him to South Florida.

batmagadanleadoff
Aug 02 2021 10:54 AM
Re: IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 02 2021 12:50 PM

=Marshmallowmilkshake post_id=73177 time=1627921685 user_id=119]
An owner determined to turn what was a colorful ballpark [Marlins Park] into something blander than [Derek Jeter's] playing days....



Jeez, this may be the only thing I'd agree with you on in like more years than I can remember. That and the unfortunate mothballing of those great Marlins' art deco uniforms from the 2012 rebrand. Boy did he make shit out of that stadium. And those ads on the outfield walls. I don't like wall ads in general, but Marlins Park was aesthetically designed to specifically not have outfield wall ads. Those ads wrecked the whole concept of that park. Well, the color's scheme all shot to hell anyways, now. Loria's a scumbag, but he's no philistine. He has a flair for the visual.

Centerfield
Aug 02 2021 12:11 PM
Re: IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

=Marshmallowmilkshake post_id=73177 time=1627921685 user_id=119]
=Centerfield post_id=73174 time=1627919231 user_id=65]
The Mets are depressing.



Let me fix that for you:



The Mets are in first place on Aug. 2!



We should be giddy. They're leading the division despite all kinds of bad things thrown at them. I get that we're not used to being in first place in August. Now, 1978? That was depressing!



The Marlins are depressing. Bad team. An owner determined to turn what was a colorful ballpark into something blander than his playing days interview quotes and is shocked that Mystique and Aura didn't follow him to South Florida.


The Mets are in first place, not because they've overcome adversity, but because they are fortunate to play in the worst division in baseball. They'd be a distant second in any other division and clinging to a chance to compete for a second wild card. They've played mediocre baseball for three of the first four months and are two months removed from their last hot streak.



Mainly the Mets are depressing because there are health concerns around deGrom. And until he is healthy and throwing it just stresses me out.



They botched the Rocker situation badly. I don't know if he's really damaged goods or if this was over money. But there was a reason every other team passed on him and I don't understand how you pull the trigger on that pick without being informed.



Their approach at the plate depresses me and I hate that they brought in another guy who does the same thing. Six years ago medicals saved Sandy from Wheeler-Gomez. I feel like this time we were not so lucky.



Conforto McNeil and Smith depress me. Who wild have guessed they'd all be so bad. It makes you wonder about a flaw in the organization's approach.



But that being said, Tylor Megill makes me happy. Kinda running away with DHM of the year right now.

Edgy MD
Aug 02 2021 12:24 PM
Re: IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

Wait, McNeil is bad? Please don't let him know.



The Marlins have traded their entire starting outfield, for the second time in three years, while the Nationals have defensestrated even more 2021 parts, so the Mets have an opportunity to fatten up here, playing 12 games against those two teams in August, and another 13 in September.



May it not be an opportunity wasted.

Marshmallowmilkshake
Aug 02 2021 01:00 PM
Re: IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

=Centerfield post_id=73182 time=1627927919 user_id=65]
=Marshmallowmilkshake post_id=73177 time=1627921685 user_id=119]
=Centerfield post_id=73174 time=1627919231 user_id=65]
The Mets are depressing.



Let me fix that for you:



The Mets are in first place on Aug. 2!



We should be giddy. They're leading the division despite all kinds of bad things thrown at them. I get that we're not used to being in first place in August. Now, 1978? That was depressing!



The Marlins are depressing. Bad team. An owner determined to turn what was a colorful ballpark into something blander than his playing days interview quotes and is shocked that Mystique and Aura didn't follow him to South Florida.


The Mets are in first place, not because they've overcome adversity, but because they are fortunate to play in the worst division in baseball. They'd be a distant second in any other division and clinging to a chance to compete for a second wild card. They've played mediocre baseball for three of the first four months and are two months removed from their last hot streak.



Mainly the Mets are depressing because there are health concerns around deGrom. And until he is healthy and throwing it just stresses me out.



They botched the Rocker situation badly. I don't know if he's really damaged goods or if this was over money. But there was a reason every other team passed on him and I don't understand how you pull the trigger on that pick without being informed.



Their approach at the plate depresses me and I hate that they brought in another guy who does the same thing. Six years ago medicals saved Sandy from Wheeler-Gomez. I feel like this time we were not so lucky.



Conforto McNeil and Smith depress me. Who wild have guessed they'd all be so bad. It makes you wonder about a flaw in the organization's approach.



But that being said, Tylor Megill makes me happy. Kinda running away with DHM of the year right now.


I disagree.



I think they have overcome adversity and that puts them ahead of other teams that also are facing adversity. We're better than they are. If we were in the NL West I'd be bummed. But that division's not our problem! Good things happen in October when you win the division.



Playing mediocre baseball with so many people injured IS an accomplishment. That they've been able to hold off the Braves and Phillies is a credit to the team.



Did they botch the Rocker situation, or did they avert disaster. Of course it wasn't about the money. They saw something in the medicals they didn't like. Did the other teams above them see something the Mets didn't see? Possibly. Who knows. Baseball draft picks are all over the place.



Conforto and Smith are struggling, probably for a lot of reasons. We've been doing OK with them as they are now. If they right the ship or close to it, and we're still in first place? That's awesome!!



Tlyor is wonderful!



Feel free to wallow. My team is in first place in August. it's been an exciting season. I'm celebrating.

Fman99
Aug 02 2021 01:10 PM
Re: IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

Yah I am of the half full variety here also.

cal sharpie
Aug 02 2021 01:18 PM
Re: IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

My nearly-30-year-old son (the erstwhile poster Lenny Harris) was walking down the street the other day with his Mets hat on and some random guy looked at him and said "Mets suck" for no apparent reason. Guy was clearly a MFY fan. My son stopped and said something to the effect of "actually, they don't suck. They're in first place. You could have said that many other years and been correct. It's the third-place Yankees who kind of suck this year."



Makes a father proud.

Ceetar
Aug 02 2021 01:49 PM
Re: IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

still need more pitching. I know many expected a bit of an August slog after the shortened season last year, perhaps Walker, Stroman, etc are hitting a little bit of a wall. Hopefully they can get that straightened out, and deGrom can come back 'healthy'.



Maybe Carrasco getting a late start will end up mean he's cruising in October, but post-trade deadline you'd like to have a little more certainty on what the rotation is. A month or so ago we were riding high that as long as disaster didn't strike, you had deGrom, Stroman, Walker all just cruising with guys like Megill as a great wildcard and the possibility of Carrasco and Thor returning and being backups or long relievers or whatever you needed in the playoffs. Now we're not even sure who'd start in the NLDS.

kcmets
Aug 02 2021 02:20 PM
Re: IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

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NIMMO RF

ALONSO 1B

McNEIL 2B

BAEZ SS

DAVIS 3B

SMITH LF

McCANN C

PILLAR CF

MEGILL P

Ceetar
Aug 02 2021 02:25 PM
Re: IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

Where's Conforto.

kcmets
Aug 02 2021 04:05 PM
Re: IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

I'm pretty sure I typed what was on Gameday earlier re: CF and RF and thought

it odd and of course they need to be flip flopped.

Frayed Knot
Aug 02 2021 04:08 PM
Re: IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

=Ceetar post_id=73202 time=1627935957 user_id=102]
Where's Conforto.



I've been asking that all year!

G-Fafif
Aug 02 2021 05:17 PM
Re: IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

Nimmo out. Drury in RF batting eighth. Pillar in CF batting leadoff.

Johnny Lunchbucket
Aug 02 2021 05:19 PM
Re: IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

Go Lenny Harris. I've been very suspicious of the Mets' goodness all year

batmagadanleadoff
Aug 02 2021 05:24 PM
Re: IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

Marlins suck. Megill's been terrific all season. So the Marlins'll probably bomb the crap out of Megill tonight. That's how the Baseball Gods roll.

ashie62
Aug 02 2021 05:28 PM
Re: IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

I hope the Mets don't suck.

ashie62
Aug 02 2021 05:32 PM
Re: IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

And like that.



On to other viewing.

ashie62
Aug 02 2021 05:32 PM
Re: IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=73223 time=1627946676 user_id=68]
Marlins suck. Megill's been terrific all season. So the Marlins'll probably bomb the crap out of Megill tonight. That's how the Baseball Gods roll.



Correct!

Centerfield
Aug 02 2021 05:33 PM
Re: IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

=ashie62 post_id=73227 time=1627947140 user_id=90]
And like that.



On to other viewing.



Yup. See you in an hour. Hopefully things will be better then.

G-Fafif
Aug 02 2021 05:33 PM
Re: IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

Grand slam to Brinson. Tylor Megill needs to show a little more Tess McGill in terms of gumption. Don't let the Marlins run…up the score.

Johnny Lunchbucket
Aug 02 2021 05:35 PM
Re: IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

Still early vs these palookas, that's the thing

Edgy MD
Aug 02 2021 05:46 PM
Re: IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

Make 'em throw strikes, be patient, and you'll be right back in it.



(And J.D. swings 2-0.)

Edgy MD
Aug 02 2021 05:47 PM
Re: IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

But then lines a 3-1 fastball into center. First and third and no out.

Edgy MD
Aug 02 2021 05:52 PM
Re: IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

Righthanded hitters getting it done.

Edgy MD
Aug 02 2021 05:55 PM
Re: IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

It's funny that the Marlins are back to where I never know what they're calling their ballpark until the Mets get there.

Edgy MD
Aug 02 2021 05:58 PM
Re: IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

Wow, this guy is from Marjorie Stoneman-Douglas HS.

Frayed Knot
Aug 02 2021 06:11 PM
Re: IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

The 'Back in an Hour' crowd are missing a good hour.

Edgy MD
Aug 02 2021 06:14 PM
Re: IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

Javier Baez comes up limpy.



Call Kevin Baez.

Frayed Knot
Aug 02 2021 06:20 PM
Re: IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

Breaking News: JD Davis took 2nd on a Passed Ball ... And Didn't Pull a Hammy in the process!!



Film at Eleven

Edgy MD
Aug 02 2021 06:28 PM
Re: IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

Frayed Knot wrote:

Breaking News: JD Davis took 2nd on a Passed Ball ... And Didn't Pull a Hammy in the process!!



Film at Eleven


That was followed by Dom Smith trying to beat the pitcher to first on a grounder to the right, and also not coming up hurt.



But the real nooz is Baez staying in the game. He knows who the fans came to see.

Fman99
Aug 02 2021 06:40 PM
Re: IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

Megill comes up grabbing his own behind on that bunt. I am hoping it's because it's fun to rub your own ass.

Frayed Knot
Aug 02 2021 07:21 PM
Re: IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

I think somebody needs to tell Gary that that was

A) not a live shot

and

B) the sun, not the moon

Edgy MD
Aug 02 2021 07:37 PM
Re: IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

Not Gary's first oversight of the night.



Eighth inning. Good time to strike.

Edgy MD
Aug 02 2021 07:38 PM
Re: IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

Mets hitters are owning the warning track tonight.

Johnny Lunchbucket
Aug 02 2021 07:45 PM
Re: IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

Interesting ph here Villar for McCann

Edgy MD
Aug 02 2021 07:53 PM
Re: IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

Right call. The righty-throwing sliders have been a nightmare for McCann most of the year, and this guy's slider was making righthanders look stoopit.

Edgy MD
Aug 02 2021 07:56 PM
Re: IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

Drury's magic starting to run out a bit.

bmfc1
Aug 02 2021 08:03 PM
Re: IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

In April, if I told you that Brandon Drury would get a key AB in August against a righty while Michael Conforto was on the bench and it was the right move (once you comprehended that Drury was on the Mets) you wouldn't believe it.

Frayed Knot
Aug 02 2021 08:05 PM
Re: IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

Say goodnight, Gracie

bmfc1
Aug 02 2021 08:06 PM
Re: IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

Another 8th inning where the RP fails and the other team extends the lead... except this RP is not one that will be DFA'd after the game.

Edgy MD
Aug 02 2021 08:10 PM
Re: IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

That young man in a Mets lid behind the plate with the great headful of salad has been wasted for about six innings now.

Edgy MD
Aug 02 2021 08:16 PM
Re: IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

Good time to awaken, Michael Conforto.

Edgy MD
Aug 02 2021 08:17 PM
Re: IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

And that's what waking up looks like.

Edgy MD
Aug 02 2021 08:22 PM
Re: IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

Baseball over for the evening.

Johnny Lunchbucket
Aug 02 2021 09:04 PM
Re: IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

This team is really on the skids

Fman99
Aug 03 2021 04:59 AM
Re: IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

Yeah, that went poorly.

ashie62
Aug 03 2021 05:59 AM
Re: IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

2 1/2 lead.

Lefty Specialist
Aug 03 2021 08:13 AM
Re: IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

They're in Philly for the weekend. I'm actually going to CBP Friday night with Phillie fans- my first live baseball of 2021. I'm dreading it.



This is a discombobulated team that has depended on the rest of the division playing even worse. They didn't get a real starter at the deadline and did nothing to upgrade the bullpen. That bill will come due shortly.

Centerfield
Aug 03 2021 09:27 AM
Re: IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

And this was kinda my point at the beginning of this thread. "We are in first place" is a smokescreen for a very flawed team. They are 29th in runs scored on August 3. They have a negative run differential. This is no longer a small sample size. Their approach at the plate has yielded terrible results. But they remain steadfastly committed to it rather than adjusting. Conforto, Smith, Lindor, McNeil and McCann are badly underperforming compared to expectations coming in. They are in first place by less than three games due to a hot streak in May where the subs performed well and the pitching was flawless. That team is no longer relevant for the last 59 games.



Last night our starting pitcher gave up a first inning grand slam. Our offense wasn't able to put 4 on the board the rest of the way. So even if the pitching had been perfect, it wouldn't have mattered.



This team has been moving backwards for a while. I'm not saying folks shouldn't be optimistic. There's plenty of time and plenty of opportunity to turn it around. But to improve, a team has to show a willingness to improve. I haven't seen any trace of that.

Edgy MD
Aug 03 2021 09:28 AM
Re: IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

Bullpen shmullpen.



Improving a team with bullpen moves is almost always a fool's errand.

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 03 2021 09:40 AM
Re: IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

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Cast your vote!

Johnny Lunchbucket
Aug 03 2021 09:40 AM
Re: IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

I get pessimistic when I don't see a catalyst. Baez by himself isn't doing it for me, just another low-OBP guy at the front of the lineup.



I'm not even sure if this is doable or ultimately wise but what if Luis started doling out Trachsel Cures. Schedule 'em:

Conforto, report to Syracuse immediately, see you in one week.

When he comes back, Smith goes down

When Smith comes back, McCann goes down



If Smith and McCann don;t wanna go down then start producing more NOW.



Then after 3 weeks, hopefully while we stay above water, Zimmo and Lindor are healthy and the healthy but struggling guys have been humbled and forgiven.



Step on the gas Aug. 25.

Edgy MD
Aug 03 2021 09:51 AM
Re: IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

They are very much a different team without Nimmo in the lineup.



This is all the more exacerbated by the black hole that Pillar fell into.

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 03 2021 09:56 AM
Re: IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

They need someone to carry this team on his back, like Cespedes did in 2015. Alonso is giving it his best shot, but it's not resulting in as many wins as we need it to.

Edgy MD
Aug 03 2021 09:59 AM
Re: IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

I'll take contagious hitting and keeping the line moving.

Fman99
Aug 03 2021 10:27 AM
Re: IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

Don't underestimate the lack of energy on the field since Lindor came up lame. He was pushing his teammates along the entire time he was out there.

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 03 2021 10:45 AM
Re: IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

I agree. His numbers weren't what we wanted them to be, but he definitely had an impact. He's been missed.

nymr83
Aug 03 2021 04:06 PM
Re: IGT 2 August 2021 Mets @ Fish 7:10 PM "Here fish fish fish"

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"Did someone say intangbles?"