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IGT 08/12- Nationals at Mets - Back to Business (Pt. 3)

kcmets Aug 12 2021 01:00 PM

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bmfc1 Aug 12 2021 01:03 PM Re: IGT 08/12- Nationals at Mets - Back to Business (Pt. 3)

THEM: 1. Victor Robles (R) CF 2. Andrew Stevenson (L) LF 3. Juan Soto (L) RF 4. Ryan Zimmerman (R) 1B 5. Carter Kieboom (R) 3B 6. Luis Garcia (L) SS 7. Adrian Sanchez (R) 2B 8. Tres Barrera (R) C 9. Erick Fedde (R) P METS: 1. Brandon Nimmo (L) CF 2. Jeff McNeil (L) 2B 3. Pete Alonso (R) 1B 4. Dominic Smith (L) LF 5. Michael Conforto (L) RF 6. J.D. Davis (R) 3B 7. Jonathan Villar (S) SS 8. James McCann (R) C 9. Trevor Williams (R) P Still without Baez.

bmfc1 Aug 12 2021 02:01 PM Re: IGT 08/12- Nationals at Mets - Back to Business (Pt. 3)

The way Gary is talking the Mets shouldn't even bother to show up this weekend.

Johnny Lunchbucket Aug 12 2021 02:18 PM Re: IGT 08/12- Nationals at Mets - Back to Business (Pt. 3)

Trevor F Williams

bmfc1 Aug 12 2021 02:26 PM Re: IGT 08/12- Nationals at Mets - Back to Business (Pt. 3)

So nice to see Conforto and JD swing like that.

bmfc1 Aug 12 2021 02:30 PM Re: IGT 08/12- Nationals at Mets - Back to Business (Pt. 3)

Solid double Solid double Solid single Lame grounder. James McCann!

Chad ochoseis Aug 12 2021 03:30 PM Re: IGT 08/12- Nationals at Mets - Back to Business (Pt. 3)

This May not end well.

Edgy MD Aug 12 2021 03:43 PM Re: IGT 08/12- Nationals at Mets - Back to Business (Pt. 3)

Not that I distrust going to Familia, but if the reason is that you don't want to use Diaz in both ends of a doubleheader, why is this the game you want to keep him out of. Is there a reason to presume he'll be more needed in the second game?

Edgy MD Aug 12 2021 03:48 PM Re: IGT 08/12- Nationals at Mets - Back to Business (Pt. 3)

Well fuck me.

Chad ochoseis Aug 12 2021 03:48 PM Re: IGT 08/12- Nationals at Mets - Back to Business (Pt. 3)

Fug.

Johnny Lunchbucket Aug 12 2021 03:48 PM Re: IGT 08/12- Nationals at Mets - Back to Business (Pt. 3)

Holy Luis Castillo

Chad ochoseis Aug 12 2021 03:49 PM Re: IGT 08/12- Nationals at Mets - Back to Business (Pt. 3)

Edgy MD wrote: Is there a reason to presume he'll be more needed in the second game? This is the second game. It's tough to keep track.

Edgy MD Aug 12 2021 03:51 PM Re: IGT 08/12- Nationals at Mets - Back to Business (Pt. 3)

HA! I was out all day. Missed the other game. Hey, look! They won!

bmfc1 Aug 12 2021 03:52 PM Re: IGT 08/12- Nationals at Mets - Back to Business (Pt. 3)

Was he saving Diaz for tomorrow? Stop mollycoddling these guys. This is a must game and you don't know if you'll need him tomorrow.

Lefty Specialist Aug 12 2021 03:53 PM Re: IGT 08/12- Nationals at Mets - Back to Business (Pt. 3)

Just how hard is it to get three outs, guys? Apparently WAAAAAY too hard.

Lefty Specialist Aug 12 2021 03:54 PM Re: IGT 08/12- Nationals at Mets - Back to Business (Pt. 3)

Glad they didn't go for any bullpen help at the deadline.

bmfc1 Aug 12 2021 03:54 PM Re: IGT 08/12- Nationals at Mets - Back to Business (Pt. 3)

Lefty Specialist wrote: Just how hard is it to get three outs, guys? Apparently WAAAAAY too hard. Especially against minor leaguers. Terrible job by May, Familia, McNeil and Luis.

Willets Point Aug 12 2021 03:55 PM Re: IGT 08/12- Nationals at Mets - Back to Business (Pt. 3)

Time for a walk-off.

bmfc1 Aug 12 2021 03:57 PM Re: IGT 08/12- Nationals at Mets - Back to Business (Pt. 3)

Willets Point wrote: Time for a walk-off. McNeil owes us one after that dog of a play.

Edgy MD Aug 12 2021 03:58 PM Re: IGT 08/12- Nationals at Mets - Back to Business (Pt. 3)

McNeil owes this team a homerun here.

Edgy MD Aug 12 2021 04:04 PM Re: IGT 08/12- Nationals at Mets - Back to Business (Pt. 3)

Business taken care of.

Willets Point Aug 12 2021 04:04 PM Re: IGT 08/12- Nationals at Mets - Back to Business (Pt. 3)

Willets Point wrote: Time for a walk-off. Thanks, Pete!

Johnny Lunchbucket Aug 12 2021 04:04 PM Re: IGT 08/12- Nationals at Mets - Back to Business (Pt. 3)

That's how it's done

Chad ochoseis Aug 12 2021 04:06 PM Re: IGT 08/12- Nationals at Mets - Back to Business (Pt. 3)

Now to switch to Reds-Braves. Go, Reds!

Marshmallowmilkshake Aug 12 2021 04:06 PM Re: IGT 08/12- Nationals at Mets - Back to Business (Pt. 3)

Edgy MD wrote: McNeil owes this team a homerun here. Pete has his back.

bmfc1 Aug 12 2021 04:06 PM Re: IGT 08/12- Nationals at Mets - Back to Business (Pt. 3)

PHEW! Familia doesn't deserve the win and it should revert to Lugo. How high does Stevenson think he can jump? NOW we're watching baseball and smiling, Pete!

Chad ochoseis Aug 12 2021 04:16 PM Re: IGT 08/12- Nationals at Mets - Back to Business (Pt. 3)

Chad ochoseis wrote: Now to switch to Reds-Braves. Go, Reds! 8-1 Cincy in the 3rd.

Johnny Lunchbucket Aug 12 2021 04:22 PM Re: IGT 08/12- Nationals at Mets - Back to Business (Pt. 3)

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kcmets Aug 12 2021 05:01 PM Re: IGT 08/12- Nationals at Mets - Back to Business (Pt. 3)

There's Bill! Now we can mangia!!

nymr83 Aug 12 2021 05:50 PM Re: IGT 08/12- Nationals at Mets - Back to Business (Pt. 3)

Winners again! Only a half game back!

Frayed Knot Aug 12 2021 05:54 PM Re: IGT 08/12- Nationals at Mets - Back to Business (Pt. 3)

Are we really killing Rojas here for not using Diaz for a third game in under 24 hours for what should have been a cookie save [3-run lead, bottom of the order from a team playing out the string]? I was imagining the pasting that decision would take if Luis HAD gone to Edwin.

Chad ochoseis Aug 12 2021 06:50 PM Re: IGT 08/12- Nationals at Mets - Back to Business (Pt. 3)

I'm certainly not. Without checking the numbers, Diaz has always seemed much better on a day's rest. May needed to get it done, and Familia (and McNeil) needed to bail him out when he couldn't.

Frayed Knot Aug 12 2021 07:01 PM Re: IGT 08/12- Nationals at Mets - Back to Business (Pt. 3)

And the biggest thing in my mind: it was a three run lead! Those are saved at >95% clip no matter who is given the ball. The problem was obviously the wildness by both May & Familia; the Nats hit one ball hard that whole inning (the leadoff single). Other than that there was an infield single (two if you want to call the one to McNeil an IF hit) plus too many pitches, walks, and WPs/PBs The (half) inning sucked but I don't fault the decision that got them there. Plus it ended well and no one got injured in the process.

Edgy MD Aug 12 2021 08:00 PM Re: IGT 08/12- Nationals at Mets - Back to Business (Pt. 3)

I didn't see anybody killing him. I questioned it because: (1) I was ignorant, having been out in the sun all day and not realizing I was watching game two and not game one, in which Diaz had already appeared, and (2) It was only after May exited with the bases bloated and Familia came on. My bad, but no killing under any circumstances. And I'll even step up for Familia. Awarding a single win or loss exclusively to any pitcher is archaic, but Familia more or less got the job done, The Mets just didn't make the plays.

Frayed Knot Aug 12 2021 08:28 PM Re: IGT 08/12- Nationals at Mets - Back to Business (Pt. 3)

Edgy MD wrote: I didn't see anybody killing him. "Bad job by Luis" "Why are we coddling these guys?" My point is that using your closer to cinch a three run game is, at best, more often than not an inefficient use of resources. At worst it's playing for stats above wins. Now throw in that Diaz was used twice in the previous 20 hours and I'd argue that using him in a low leverage situation against a (currently) bad team would be closer to blatant misuse.

Ceetar Aug 12 2021 08:39 PM Re: IGT 08/12- Nationals at Mets - Back to Business (Pt. 3)

the move to get on Rojas for is letting Williams burn an out and pitch a 5th inning of 7 when he's garbage and like your 15th SP. I know it was the bottom of the order, but quit while you're ahead. The bullpens been good enough to do 3 innings, plus real hitter.

Edgy MD Aug 12 2021 08:41 PM Re: IGT 08/12- Nationals at Mets - Back to Business (Pt. 3)

I'm again disappointed to read you calling people garbage. Frayed Knot wrote: Edgy MD wrote: I didn't see anybody killing him. "Bad job by Luis" "Why are we coddling these guys?" My point is that using your closer to cinch a three run game is, at best, more often than not an inefficient use of resources. At worst it's playing for stats above wins. Now throw in that Diaz was used twice in the previous 20 hours and I'd argue that using him in a low leverage situation against a (currently) bad team would be closer to blatant misuse. Yeah, I'm going to support that. Add in that there was a dangerously high heat index and it's not far fetched to say a second appearance wouldn't necessarily have been the best thing for everybody. I'll also note that McNuggett may have failed to keep the ball in the infield on the game-tying hit, but he had spent two games in the sun out there today playing on a weak leg.

Benjamin Grimm Aug 13 2021 05:54 AM Re: IGT 08/12- Nationals at Mets - Back to Business (Pt. 3)

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Fman99 Aug 13 2021 06:19 AM Re: IGT 08/12- Nationals at Mets - Back to Business (Pt. 3)

We missed all of the excitement of the last inning. After being at the ballpark for the better part of 5+ hours, over both games, we saw the Villar HR in the 8th, and the sky turned a really brilliant purple color right around that same time frame. We hit the road and listened to the last inning on XM, so, we didn't witness either the Familia/McNeil melt or the Alonso walk off. Which is kind of a bummer. It's also OK, I mean, as it is, we didn't get back to Syracuse until 11:15 PM, so we'd have been likely even later still had we stuck around for the end. The crowd had thinned out bigly at that point. We had a great day nonetheless. Still got 13 innings of in person baseball in for our money's worth.

bmfc1 Aug 13 2021 06:41 AM Re: IGT 08/12- Nationals at Mets - Back to Business (Pt. 3)

Great job Fman99!

Johnny Lunchbucket Aug 13 2021 07:39 AM Re: IGT 08/12- Nationals at Mets - Back to Business (Pt. 3)

sorry I couldn't join ya. I suck

Fman99 Aug 13 2021 10:42 AM Re: IGT 08/12- Nationals at Mets - Back to Business (Pt. 3)

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: sorry I couldn't join ya. I suck We'll be back in 2022. Covid aside my son and I have gone to at least one mid week afternoon matinee every summer since Citi Field opened.