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IGT 08/19 Mets at L.A.(N) - Building Momentum

MFS62 Aug 19 2021 05:20 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 19 2021 05:35 AM

Night game in Chavez Ravine. How low must have Chavez' self-esteem been that he felt he had to name a ravine after himself? PITCHING PROBABLES: Mets: Taijuan Walker (7-7, 3.75 ERA, 1.18 WHIP, 110 strikeouts) L.A.: Walker Buehler (12-2, 2.10 ERA, .93 WHIP, 162 strikeouts) We got this. Later

bmfc1 Aug 19 2021 05:23 AM Re: IGT 08/19 Mets at L.A.(N) - Building Momentum

We weren't happy about the 9:45 PM starts in SF but those look better in comparison with a 10:10 PM start.

Frayed Knot Aug 19 2021 05:33 AM Re: IGT 08/19 Mets at L.A.(N) - Building Momentum

More than a few of us here are old enough to remember the days of 11 PM starts from the west coast. Of course those games probably still ended around the same time as today's 10:10 face-offs, but at least now it's easier to catch the beginnings of games.

Gwreck Aug 19 2021 06:48 AM Re: IGT 08/19 Mets at L.A.(N) - Building Momentum

Buehler has been moved back to Friday. Dodgers throwing a “bullpen game” tonight.

MFS62 Aug 19 2021 04:03 PM Re: IGT 08/19 Mets at L.A.(N) - Building Momentum

MLB.com takes me to Yahoo sports, which still isn't showing the starter for L.A. Later

kcmets Aug 19 2021 04:18 PM Re: IGT 08/19 Mets at L.A.(N) - Building Momentum

mlb.com takes me to mlb.com, not Yahoo lol. Gameday still showing TBD. Dodgers are kinda hot, hope we're not waltzing into a buzz saw.

kcmets Aug 19 2021 05:09 PM Re: IGT 08/19 Mets at L.A.(N) - Building Momentum

https://www.kcmets.com/CPF/LAD.png> Turner 2B Muncy 1B Turner 3B Seager SS Smith C Pollock LF Taylor RF Bellinger CF Knebal P (2-0, 2.89)

Lefty Specialist Aug 19 2021 05:14 PM Re: IGT 08/19 Mets at L.A.(N) - Building Momentum

Buehler has been moved back to Friday. Dodgers throwing a “bullpen game” tonight. Dodgers essentially saying "We got this".

MFS62 Aug 19 2021 05:22 PM Re: IGT 08/19 Mets at L.A.(N) - Building Momentum

Lefty Specialist wrote: Buehler has been moved back to Friday. Dodgers throwing a “bullpen game” tonight. Dodgers essentially saying "We got this". Buehler was in court all day, testifying in his sexual harassment case. According to WCBS Radio, he won the case, and the Judge did not grant a restraining order against him. Later

Frayed Knot Aug 19 2021 06:10 PM Re: IGT 08/19 Mets at L.A.(N) - Building Momentum

You're mixing up Buehler with Bauer.

MFS62 Aug 19 2021 06:15 PM Re: IGT 08/19 Mets at L.A.(N) - Building Momentum

Frayed Knot wrote: You're mixing up Buehler with Bauer. And you are right. Oops. Later

kcmets Aug 19 2021 06:23 PM Re: IGT 08/19 Mets at L.A.(N) - Building Momentum

http://www.kcmets.com/CPF/NYM.png> Nimmo CF McNeil 2B Alonso 1B Conforto RF Davis 3B Smith LF Villar SS 'zeika C Walker P (7-7, 3.75)

batmagadanleadoff Aug 19 2021 06:52 PM Re: IGT 08/19 Mets at L.A.(N) - Building Momentum

=MFS62 post_id=75002 time=1629415351 user_id=60] [Trevor Bauer] was in court all day, testifying in his sexual harassment case. According to WCBS Radio, he won the case, and the Judge did not grant a restraining order against him.

Not surprised at all. I thought the accuser was full of shit from the first reports. It was even worse than wHat was first reported. She may have doctored up photos to make her quote injuries appear worse.

Edgy MD Aug 19 2021 09:14 PM Re: IGT 08/19 Mets at L.A.(N) - Building Momentum

No momentum here as the Mets get on the board and knock out the starter (in the third?).

Edgy MD Aug 19 2021 09:17 PM Re: IGT 08/19 Mets at L.A.(N) - Building Momentum

Zodd Teile's whiskey voice is something. Mary Hart and Burt Sugarman are in the house. Burt, so far, is awake.

Edgy MD Aug 19 2021 09:20 PM Re: IGT 08/19 Mets at L.A.(N) - Building Momentum

And J.D. adds to the Mets' baserunning negatives. Or subtracts from.

Johnny Lunchbucket Aug 19 2021 09:25 PM Re: IGT 08/19 Mets at L.A.(N) - Building Momentum

Bunch of hard hit balls that inning anyway

Edgy MD Aug 19 2021 09:43 PM Re: IGT 08/19 Mets at L.A.(N) - Building Momentum

Good challenge by Metties, but run lost to McTurncoat.

bmfc1 Aug 19 2021 09:56 PM Re: IGT 08/19 Mets at L.A.(N) - Building Momentum

JD hurts the Mets with his baserunning mistake and then in the field AND THEN blames Pete for not catching the ball: [TWEET]https://twitter.com/Anakinrevenge/status/1428565683676356608[/TWEET]

Edgy MD Aug 19 2021 10:36 PM Re: IGT 08/19 Mets at L.A.(N) - Building Momentum

Nimmo is, like, one of those grownup centerfielders.

Edgy MD Aug 19 2021 10:36 PM Re: IGT 08/19 Mets at L.A.(N) - Building Momentum

Todd and Gelbs stepping all over each other this game.

nymr83 Aug 19 2021 10:40 PM Re: IGT 08/19 Mets at L.A.(N) - Building Momentum

[Trevor Bauer] was in court all day, testifying in his sexual harassment case. According to WCBS Radio, he won the case, and the Judge did not grant a restraining order against him. Not surprised at all. I thought the accuser was full of shit from the first reports. It was even worse than wHat was first reported. She may have doctored up photos to make her quote injuries appear worse. This game sucks. The woman apparently texted Bauer "gimme all the pain" after their first encounter and before their [voluntary] second one. He is a sicko. so is she. She either had regrets or saw an opportunity to settle for $$$ with a rich dude. he should have known better given his celebrity.

Edgy MD Aug 19 2021 10:41 PM Re: IGT 08/19 Mets at L.A.(N) - Building Momentum

DJs are on pitcher #6. Let's get chasey.

Edgy MD Aug 19 2021 10:43 PM Re: IGT 08/19 Mets at L.A.(N) - Building Momentum

McNeil looks like quite the psycho in the dugout.

Johnny Lunchbucket Aug 19 2021 10:49 PM Re: IGT 08/19 Mets at L.A.(N) - Building Momentum

Head up his ass

Johnny Lunchbucket Aug 19 2021 10:51 PM Re: IGT 08/19 Mets at L.A.(N) - Building Momentum

I can't believe I made it to the 9th. Mets almost look good but really aren't. Not putting it past em to tease here

Edgy MD Aug 19 2021 10:52 PM Re: IGT 08/19 Mets at L.A.(N) - Building Momentum

Doing the crossword in between innings and ... good omen! https://metsrostercentral.files.wordpress.com/2021/08/screen-shot-2021-08-20-at-12.51.17-am.png>

Edgy MD Aug 19 2021 10:57 PM Re: IGT 08/19 Mets at L.A.(N) - Building Momentum

Johnny Lunchbucket Aug 19 2021 11:04 PM Re: IGT 08/19 Mets at L.A.(N) - Building Momentum

Nope

G-Fafif Aug 19 2021 11:24 PM Re: IGT 08/19 Mets at L.A.(N) - Building Momentum

Kudos to the Mets for trying to stay positive and throwing the ball well, per their dependable postloss remarks.

bmfc1 Aug 20 2021 06:08 AM Re: IGT 08/19 Mets at L.A.(N) - Building Momentum

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: Head up his ass More on McNeil from Tim Britton in The Athletic today: [BLOCKQUOTE]For McNeil individually, the pressure is about to amplify. Four hours before Thursday's game, Francisco Lindor and Javy Báez worked the middle infield together, preparing for returns that could come early next homestand. Rojas made clear that Báez would play second beside Lindor at short. That leaves third base and the corner outfield for McNeil — spots now occupied by J.D. Davis, Michael Conforto and Dominic Smith. The Mets need to ride the hot hands, and McNeil isn't one of them right now. https://theathletic.com/2780903/2021/08/20/jeff-mcneils-struggles-are-a-proxy-for-the-mets-larger-approach-issues/?source=emp_shared_article[/BLOCKQUOTE]

Fman99 Aug 20 2021 06:24 AM Re: IGT 08/19 Mets at L.A.(N) - Building Momentum

Big ol yawn. Made it three innings in. Didn't miss much, apparently.

bmfc1 Aug 20 2021 06:30 AM Re: IGT 08/19 Mets at L.A.(N) - Building Momentum

More from Tim Britton (citation above): [BLOCKQUOTE]...The Mets have the eighth-highest chase rate in baseball. That has created a double whammy: The Mets don't get into good hitters' counts often (they've had the fewest plate appearances in the National League that end with the batter ahead), and they don't capitalize on them when they do (they're 14th in the NL in OPS when ahead in the count). No team in the NL has seen fewer 3-0 counts, and the Mets are hitting only .157 when they get them. It's not just that New York didn't get to a 3-0 count Thursday; it didn't even see a three-ball count against seven Los Angeles pitchers. The Mets don't see a lot of pitches to begin with (3.80 per plate appearance this season, 14th in the NL), and they're seeing even fewer (3.75) in August.[/BLOCKQUOTE]

Johnny Lunchbucket Aug 20 2021 06:46 AM Re: IGT 08/19 Mets at L.A.(N) - Building Momentum

I'm tellin yas, that punch-up back in May signaled there was something desperately wrong with the dynamic of this group related to how the org is pivoting behind Lindor (the shit performances do too). Lindor is too singular and rewarded and permanent to not cast a different kind of shadow -- even if it winds up being counterproductive for himself and others. I suspect Lindor when not fibbing about raccoons has expressed very strong opinions of McNeil as a teammate, the FO read him loud and clear, it intentionally or not activated McNeil's own vanities and doubts and COVID-like, infected the rest of the club. An online lip-reader last night interpreted Davis eff-you-ing Alonso following his throwing error. The move to get Baez was like an empty cardboard box in the office you keep under your desk because you know you're going to get laid off soon. [TWEET]https://twitter.com/LetsGoMetsBlog1/status/1428564795087888386[/TWEET]

Benjamin Grimm Aug 20 2021 07:06 AM Re: IGT 08/19 Mets at L.A.(N) - Building Momentum

http://potg.ultimatemets.com/images/schaefer17.jpg> Cast your vote!

G-Fafif Aug 20 2021 07:21 AM Re: IGT 08/19 Mets at L.A.(N) - Building Momentum

More from Tim Britton (citation above): [BLOCKQUOTE]...The Mets have the eighth-highest chase rate in baseball. That has created a double whammy: The Mets don't get into good hitters' counts often (they've had the fewest plate appearances in the National League that end with the batter ahead), and they don't capitalize on them when they do (they're 14th in the NL in OPS when ahead in the count). No team in the NL has seen fewer 3-0 counts, and the Mets are hitting only .157 when they get them. It's not just that New York didn't get to a 3-0 count Thursday; it didn't even see a three-ball count against seven Los Angeles pitchers. The Mets don't see a lot of pitches to begin with (3.80 per plate appearance this season, 14th in the NL), and they're seeing even fewer (3.75) in August.[/BLOCKQUOTE] The Mets' individual batting averages when first-pitch swinging certainly seem gaudy. https://www.baseball-reference.com/tools/split_stats_team.cgi?full=1¶ms=count%7CFirst%20Pitch%7CNYM%7C2021%7Cbat%7CAB%7C

Edgy MD Aug 20 2021 11:07 AM Re: IGT 08/19 Mets at L.A.(N) - Building Momentum

It's amazing theater watching McNeil return to the bench following a failed at-bat. He makes distorted faces and jaws and jaws to nobody in particular and nobody wants to reply to him. I love his skill set, but he sure seems to be his own worst enemy. I don't know what the future holds but he's under contract next season and Baez ain't. My thoughts on Baez contact rate and outmaking frequency don't need to be repeated.

nymr83 Aug 20 2021 11:24 AM Re: IGT 08/19 Mets at L.A.(N) - Building Momentum

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: Head up his ass More on McNeil from Tim Britton in The Athletic today: [BLOCKQUOTE]For McNeil individually, the pressure is about to amplify. Four hours before Thursday's game, Francisco Lindor and Javy Báez worked the middle infield together, preparing for returns that could come early next homestand. Rojas made clear that Báez would play second beside Lindor at short. That leaves third base and the corner outfield for McNeil — spots now occupied by J.D. Davis, Michael Conforto and Dominic Smith. The Mets need to ride the hot hands, and McNeil isn't one of them right now. https://theathletic.com/2780903/2021/08/20/jeff-mcneils-struggles-are-a-proxy-for-the-mets-larger-approach-issues/?source=emp_shared_article[/BLOCKQUOTE] McNeil is a better overall player than Davis and a better defender at 3B. McNeil should be able to play if he breaks out of the slump.

Frayed Knot Aug 20 2021 04:43 PM Re: IGT 08/19 Mets at L.A.(N) - Building Momentum

=nymr83 post_id=75048 time=1629480293 user_id=54]McNeil should be able to play if he breaks out of the slump.

From his 2018-19 seasons where, in 815 PAs, he OPS'd 896 (141 OPS+) with 75 XBH -- to his 2020-21 seasons where, in 516 PA he is OPS'ing 748 (106) with 37 XBH,

at some point you have to wonder if this has stopped being merely a slump.