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"Uncle Steve" Calls Out The Mets

seawolf17
Aug 18 2021 08:21 AM

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/StevenACohen2/status/1427980876172955651[/TWEET]

I know I love when my boss's boss's boss just goes off on Twitter rather than actually taking ownership of the problem. Good times.

bmfc1
Aug 18 2021 08:28 AM
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While he's not wrong, is this helpful?

He can "discuss" this with Sandy and Zack but publicly berating his employees can't be productive.

Many of us woke up, saw the score, and were pissed. We might have written a negative comment on a message board or social media but we don't own the team.

Edgy MD
Aug 18 2021 08:33 AM
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Wealth, sex, drugs, and crime can only provide so much of a thrill. A lot of peeps buy teams to become public big shots.

kcmets
Aug 18 2021 08:52 AM
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Eh, I have no problem with Uncle Steve yet.

Gwreck
Aug 18 2021 09:04 AM
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I get the sense that most of his tweets are meant to commiserate, eg. “How can we get so unlucky with the rain” or “how does everyone slump at once” or “how do all these injuries pile up at once?”



This one seems to be going a bit farther, although I don't see it as a big problem.

bmfc1
Aug 18 2021 09:41 AM
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No matter how bad the Mets are, he can enjoy his new Florida house:

https://therealdeal.com/miami/2021/08/12/billionaire-mets-owner-steven-cohen-buys-south-florida-mansion-for-nearly-22m/

(It's 75 minutes from Port St. Lucie but I doubt that he's getting in a Civic and navigating 95 traffic.)

kcmets
Aug 18 2021 09:47 AM
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Tennis, anyone?

Lefty Specialist
Aug 18 2021 10:30 AM
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=kcmets post_id=74816 time=1629298379 user_id=53]
Eh, I have no problem with Uncle Steve yet.



Yeah, this isn't Steinbrenneresque just yet. But Hugh Quattlebumble might want to start searching on indeed.com.



If Steve ain't happy, ain't nobody happy.

kcmets
Aug 18 2021 10:48 AM
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Quattlebumble = LOL

TransMonk
Aug 18 2021 11:50 AM
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Disciplined approach? Like Javy Baez?

Johnny Lunchbucket
Aug 18 2021 11:50 AM
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To judge on the results, the Cohen Era has been a complete disaster so far, with a sex scandal, a bungled draft, a bungled trade deadline, front-officie vacancies that show, way too many injuries related at some level to lazy players, a disappointing debut for a blockbuster trade-and-sign superstar, a coach firing that didn't have any effect, underperformers up and down the lineup, going backwards in baseball's most winnable division, and they still play Piano Man in the 8th inning.

kcmets
Aug 18 2021 11:56 AM
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Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln...

TransMonk
Aug 18 2021 11:57 AM
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Johnny Lunchbucket wrote:

To judge on the results, the Cohen Era has been a complete disaster so far, with a sex scandal, a bungled draft, a bungled trade deadline, front-officie vacancies that show, way too many injuries related at some level to lazy players, a disappointing debut for a blockbuster trade-and-sign superstar, a coach firing that didn't have any effect, underperformers up and down the lineup, going backwards in baseball's most winnable division, and they still play Piano Man in the 8th inning.


Truth.

batmagadanleadoff
Aug 18 2021 12:00 PM
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Lefty Specialist wrote:

=kcmets post_id=74816 time=1629298379 user_id=53]
Eh, I have no problem with Uncle Steve yet.


Yeah, this isn't Steinbrenneresque just yet. But Hugh Quattlebumble might want to start searching on indeed.com.








I was thinking Steinbrenner, too. If Cohen's gonna be Steinbrenner, then he at least should bring in the Reggies and the Winfields.



I wonder how long the real George woulda been able to keep his mouth shut about Lindor's disaster of a start (if the real George owned the Mets)? That guy murdered the Mets offense before he got hurt.

batmagadanleadoff
Aug 18 2021 12:05 PM
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Johnny Lunchbucket wrote:

To judge on the results, the Cohen Era has been a complete disaster so far, with a sex scandal, a bungled draft, a bungled trade deadline, front-officie vacancies that show, way too many injuries related at some level to lazy players, a disappointing debut for a blockbuster trade-and-sign superstar, a coach firing that didn't have any effect, underperformers up and down the lineup, going backwards in baseball's most winnable division, and they still play Piano Man in the 8th inning.


Yeah. And I can't imagine what this season'd be like if the Wilpons still owned the team. Jeff would've probably forced deGrom to pitch through his health issues and he'd probably be needing a second Tommy John by now, which would essentially end his career.



I wonder what Amed Rosario's doin' because he'd be playing every day and batting from the top of the order.

batmagadanleadoff
Aug 18 2021 12:09 PM
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=batmagadanleadoff post_id=74833 time=1629309901 user_id=68]


I wonder what Amed Rosario's doin' because he'd be playing every day and batting from the top of the order.





He's just like Javy Baez, only he doesn't field as well as Baez and hits about a quarter of the HR's Baez hits.

Fman99
Aug 18 2021 07:34 PM
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He's just another pissed off Mets fan. Him owning the team has nothing to do with him being jacked up on Twitter, from my POV

Edgy MD
Aug 18 2021 08:03 PM
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=TransMonk post_id=74825 time=1629309010 user_id=71]
Disciplined approach? Like Javy Baez?



This is a particularly meaningful comment.



If a disciplined approach is what you're looking for, you've got to send that message consistently.

kcmets
Aug 18 2021 08:24 PM
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Good comment, don't buy the particularly thing.



People wanna bury the billionaire four-and-a-months in. Whatever. I doubt

Cohen had little/to no say in the Baez coming here thing.



People need to chill, or Megdal will be writing a book about how Cohen has

destroyed the Mets before the irons cool.

Centerfield
Aug 18 2021 09:04 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:

=TransMonk post_id=74825 time=1629309010 user_id=71]
Disciplined approach? Like Javy Baez?


This is a particularly meaningful comment.



If a disciplined approach is what you're looking for, you've got to send that message consistently.



Right?



“I'm sick of all this flailing at garbage and getting hurt. Sandy! It's Steve…yeah, get me Javy Baez!”

Centerfield
Aug 18 2021 09:10 PM
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Anyway, back to the point, I don't like it. He can handle that message privately.



But I guess that sort of restraint might be too much to ask of cutthroat billionaire hedge fund types.



I wanted the money. This comes with it.

nymr83
Aug 19 2021 10:09 AM
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No matter how bad the Mets are, he can enjoy his new Florida house:

https://therealdeal.com/miami/2021/08/12/billionaire-mets-owner-steven-cohen-buys-south-florida-mansion-for-nearly-22m/

(It's 75 minutes from Port St. Lucie but I doubt that he's getting in a Civic and navigating 95 traffic.)


Nice house. what caught my attention was "a 250,000-gallon saltwater pool" - why would you want a saltwater pool? is there some sort of pumping system to fill it from the likely polluted canal behind the house?

nymr83
Aug 19 2021 10:12 AM
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Edgy MD wrote:


Disciplined approach? Like Javy Baez?


This is a particularly meaningful comment.



If a disciplined approach is what you're looking for, you've got to send that message consistently.


I would differentiate between saying "this is the approach we teach and look for and sign big contracts" versus saying that that is the ONLY valid approach and if a 3-month rental player who has a different approach is the best player you can get, that is fine too.

G-Fafif
Aug 19 2021 12:39 PM
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[tweet]https://twitter.com/anthonydicomo/status/1428421378642829316[/tweet]

Edgy MD
Aug 19 2021 12:50 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:


Disciplined approach? Like Javy Baez?


This is a particularly meaningful comment.



If a disciplined approach is what you're looking for, you've got to send that message consistently.


I would differentiate between saying "this is the approach we teach and look for and sign big contracts" versus saying that that is the ONLY valid approach and if a 3-month rental player who has a different approach is the best player you can get, that is fine too.

I'm not sure that's a hair that's fair to ask players to split. I'm not sure that's a hair that's fair to ask me to split.



If the approach is so valuable, yet you're kicking aside players who adhere to it in favor of players who don't, it's a lot to ask players to ignore the inherent message there.

Johnny Lunchbucket
Aug 19 2021 03:56 PM
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Are any of us buying into the narrative that Cohens dumb tweet was either calculated or influential? We were one bad pitch away from the very same loss we suffered 60 other times this year

Edgy MD
Aug 19 2021 04:19 PM
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If it was calculated, I'd be grossly disappointed. President Trump has hopefully ended the notion that management-through-Twitter is a way forward for an organization.

kcmets
Aug 19 2021 04:22 PM
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Way way too much being made of his tweet. He should stay off the phone.

nymr83
Aug 19 2021 04:33 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:


Edgy MD wrote:





This is a particularly meaningful comment.



If a disciplined approach is what you're looking for, you've got to send that message consistently.


I would differentiate between saying "this is the approach we teach and look for and sign big contracts" versus saying that that is the ONLY valid approach and if a 3-month rental player who has a different approach is the best player you can get, that is fine too.

I'm not sure that's a hair that's fair to ask players to split. I'm not sure that's a hair that's fair to ask me to split.



If the approach is so valuable, yet you're kicking aside players who adhere to it in favor of players who don't, it's a lot to ask players to ignore the inherent message there.


Who was kicked aside? Baez was primarily acquired to replace an injured star player - nobody lost the role they had before the Lindor injury. If Lindor comes back healthy and further injuries havent opened a new hole up, you'd expect the Mets to play the best player at each spot - which if the Mets value patience so highly may not be Baez

Edgy MD
Aug 19 2021 04:43 PM
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You're answering your own question, but it's not my answer. Mostly kicked aside were Jonathan Villar and Luis Guillorme.

Frayed Knot
Aug 19 2021 06:08 PM
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Johnny Lunchbucket wrote:

Are any of us buying into the narrative that Cohens dumb tweet was either calculated or influential? We were one bad pitch away from the very same loss we suffered 60 other times this year


Calculated? In a half-assed way, maybe. But more likely just the owner venting in a way that tries to remind the fans that he's a frustrated fan too



Influential? Not a bleeping chance. The team got their first hit in, what? the 5th inning and had three knocks by the end of regulation.

But then their outburst in the 12th was when the 'motivation' kicked in?!? Yeah, right!

Edgy MD
Aug 19 2021 06:40 PM
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Yeah, but it was a really well-pitched game through all that. Cohen calling out the hitters really motivated the pitching staff.



#scienceisreal

G-Fafif
Aug 19 2021 10:20 PM
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One run through six. Gonna need another calculated or influential tweet from ownership.

Centerfield
Aug 20 2021 12:06 PM
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I can't see how that tweet could be calculated to do anything. I think it's a frustrated owner sounding off. And it's silly to think it had any effect on the game.



Maybe the only newsworthy part is that the players keep saying they have the right approach at the plate, while the owner clearly thinks they don't. I don't know exactly what the process is, but the owner and players are clearly not on the same page.



Nor is it evident from their play what their objective is. I mean, if I had to guess, their philosophy seems to be "hit a lot of ground balls right into the shift".



Then once in a while complain that the BABIP gods are against you because you hit a sharp ground ball into shift.