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G-Fafif
Sep 01 2021 01:28 PM

Acting General Manager Zack Scott is facing driving while intoxicated charges after he was busted dozing in his car in White Plains, The Post has learned.



Scott, 44, was nabbed at 4:17 a.m. Tuesday when cops caught him snoozing in a 2018 Toyota on South Lexington Avenue near the federal courthouse, White Plains Police Capt. James Spencer said Wednesday.



The embattled GM refused to give blood or submit to a breathalyzer but underwent a field sobriety test and failed, Spencer said.



He was charged and released and is due back in White Plains City Court on Thursday.



Scott's arrest is the latest hit for the Metropolitans, who have been struggling on the field and reeling from a series of controversies off the diamond in recent months.



The team did not immediately respond to a request for comment on Wednesday.


https://nypost.com/2021/09/01/mets-gm-zack-scott-busted-for-drunk-driving-in-white-plains/

kcmets
Sep 01 2021 01:31 PM
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Ruh roh!

G-Fafif
Sep 01 2021 01:33 PM
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[tweet]https://twitter.com/timbhealey/status/1433150755008045058[/tweet]

Chad ochoseis
Sep 01 2021 01:38 PM
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So, he was dozing in his car? Parked, I assume?



I've read that, legally, sleeping off a drunk inside a parked car is considered DUI, but it's always struck me as ridiculous.

MFS62
Sep 01 2021 01:38 PM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 01 2021 01:43 PM

If we find out he was working under the influence in the weeks prior to the trading deadline, can we get a do-over on some of the players he passed on?

As I've posted before, I believe drunk driving is a serious crime that should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. There is no excuse for it.

But sleeping it off in a parked vehicle means to me that he was aware of his situation and didn't want to endanger anyone (including himself). I need more details to know if that was the case.



Later

A Boy Named Seo
Sep 01 2021 01:39 PM
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Jeez, Sandy sure can pick 'em. Time for a complete overhaul of the upper rungs.

Edgy MD
Sep 01 2021 01:41 PM
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No.



But thumbs down to Scott.

seawolf17
Sep 01 2021 01:46 PM
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Load him into a cannon and fire him into Flushing Bay.

Ceetar
Sep 01 2021 01:48 PM
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Chad ochoseis wrote:

So, he was dozing in his car? Parked, I assume?



I've read that, legally, sleeping off a drunk inside a parked car is considered DUI, but it's always struck me as ridiculous.


I think if you're not in the driver's seat and don't have the keys, it's fine.



But like yeah, if a cop arrests you for dozing in the bar parking lot, that's not cool. But if you're just on some random street (didn't even say if he was parked or not) , the idea that you were just sleeping it off doesn't really fly.



he loses his license for 6 months, but that's probably all that happens.

Ceetar
Sep 01 2021 01:50 PM
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[TWEET]https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1433152703748886530[/TWEET]



of course, I'm sure that ended before 4am.



Also, we're only assuming this was booze. It could've been anything.

G-Fafif
Sep 01 2021 01:50 PM
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Jeff Passan:


The fundraiser at Mets owner Steve Cohen's house before the arrest was Monday night, sources told ESPN.

kcmets
Sep 01 2021 01:53 PM
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Chad ochoseis wrote:

So, he was dozing in his car? Parked, I assume?



I've read that, legally, sleeping off a drunk inside a parked car is considered DUI, but it's always struck me as ridiculous.


I think depends on if the keys are in the ignition or if the engine is

running or other dumb shit. (in addition to the obvious dumb shit)

If you're sleeping in a car and have half a bottle of whiskey sitting

on the passenger seat one could argue it down to an open container

and/or public drunkenness I suppose.



He was toast Mets wise anyways, he just popped up early before done.

Edgy MD
Sep 01 2021 02:02 PM
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It strikes me for the first time that Cohen lives in Stamford, so Bobby Valentine is running to be his mayor.

nymr83
Sep 01 2021 02:36 PM
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its going to vary from state to state, but even if the keys arent in the ignition they can still make reasonable inferences. for example, in the bar's parking lot? maybe just sleeping it off. on the side of the high way? obviously drunk driving.

G-Fafif
Sep 01 2021 02:37 PM
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[tweet]https://twitter.com/joelsherman1/status/1433156238808915971[/tweet]

Lefty Specialist
Sep 01 2021 02:46 PM
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=seawolf17 post_id=76184 time=1630525600 user_id=91]
Load him into a cannon and fire him into Flushing Bay.



Hey, if I was responsible for this team I'd be drinking, too. But safe to say he's a goner.

Ceetar
Sep 01 2021 02:55 PM
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i dunno about 'safe to say'



he's gonna lose his license for 6 months, and that's probably it, legally.



I mean, he might've been gone anyway, but baseball doesn't typically care about this stuff.

nymr83
Sep 01 2021 03:00 PM
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=Ceetar post_id=76197 time=1630529731 user_id=102]
i dunno about 'safe to say'



he's gonna lose his license for 6 months, and that's probably it, legally.



I mean, he might've been gone anyway, but baseball doesn't typically care about this stuff.



Baseball cares deeply when your title includes 'acting' and the team you are running is circling the toilet. This is all Cohen needed to axe him sooner.

batmagadanleadoff
Sep 01 2021 03:01 PM
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Maybe he wasnt dozing it off. Maybe he fell asleep at a red light. With the motor running.

Ceetar
Sep 01 2021 03:08 PM
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The Tony La Russa special. Who's managing the White Sox.

Edgy MD
Sep 01 2021 03:56 PM
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It's something that it was a party at Cohen's hoose and all these players and team personnel were there and nobody noticed the GM in no shape to drive.

batmagadanleadoff
Sep 01 2021 04:04 PM
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If Cohen's party ended at 9PM and Scott was arrested at 4AM, Scott made some lengthy pit stops in between.

Ceetar
Sep 01 2021 04:13 PM
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I guess it depends how long he was asleep.



also where he lives, if that's even "on the way" home seems unlikely.

Edgy MD
Sep 01 2021 04:21 PM
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=batmagadanleadoff post_id=76208 time=1630533850 user_id=68]
If Cohen's party ended at 9PM and Scott was arrested at 4AM, Scott made some lengthy pit stops in between.



That can certainly be inferred, but we lack more information.

nymr83
Sep 01 2021 04:38 PM
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=Ceetar post_id=76202 time=1630530501 user_id=102]
The Tony La Russa special. Who's managing the White Sox.



The 77-56 White Sox. He also did it at a previous job and i'm sure has repented yadayada - if he did it now... well, they are 77-56.

nymr83
Sep 01 2021 04:39 PM
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=batmagadanleadoff post_id=76200 time=1630530109 user_id=68]
Maybe he wasnt dozing it off. Maybe he fell asleep at a red light. With the motor running.



The story did not say it was a RED light...

batmagadanleadoff
Sep 01 2021 04:41 PM
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Maybe he wasnt dozing it off. Maybe he fell asleep at a red light. With the motor running.


The story did not say it was a RED light...


That's why I wrote "Maybe".



It didn't say that Scott's car was parked on the side of the road or street either.

Ceetar
Sep 01 2021 05:02 PM
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previous job? It hasn't even been a year!

A Boy Named Seo
Sep 01 2021 08:16 PM
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Maybe he wasnt dozing it off. Maybe he fell asleep at a red light. With the motor running.


The story did not say it was a RED light...


Good guess anyway. Per The Athletic:


Scott, 44, was discovered asleep at the wheel of his Toyota Highlander by a White Plains police officer at approximately 4:17 a.m., according to a statement from Capt. James Spencer of the White Plains police department. Scott's car was observed sitting at an intersection. He failed a field sobriety test at the scene and refused a chemical breath test, according to Spencer.


https://theathletic.com/2803648/2021/09/01/with-mets-acting-gm-zack-scott-facing-dwi-charge-where-does-the-organization-go-from-here/?source=user_shared_article

MFS62
Sep 01 2021 08:25 PM
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Well, there goes the theory that he was safely sleeping it off.

Later

kcmets
Sep 01 2021 08:39 PM
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Almost sounds like batmags knew he fell asleep at a red

light before reported.

batmagadanleadoff
Sep 01 2021 09:30 PM
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=kcmets post_id=76240 time=1630550350 user_id=53]
Almost sounds like batmags knew he fell asleep at a red

light before reported.



Nah. I just took a sensible (to me) guess. I didn't think he'd be arrested if he'd pulled over, parked his car, shut the engine off and slept it off like that. In fact, if he did that, I figured the inquiring cop would've commended him for being cautious.

ashie62
Sep 02 2021 02:39 AM
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=nymr83 post_id=76193 time=1630528572 user_id=54]
its going to vary from state to state, but even if the keys arent in the ignition they can still make reasonable inferences. for example, in the bar's parking lot? maybe just sleeping it off. on the side of the high way? obviously drunk driving.



If you are in your car it is considered intent to drive.



The arrest keeps drunk drivers from waking up and making another bad decision.

ashie62
Sep 02 2021 02:41 AM
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Interim GM to unemployed.

Fman99
Sep 02 2021 04:37 AM
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=Ceetar post_id=76202 time=1630530501 user_id=102]
The Tony La Russa special. Who's managing the White Sox.



Right, I mean, give him credit at least for having his DUI in a traditional way for baseball management. Ah, the classics!

Johnny Lunchbucket
Sep 02 2021 04:49 AM
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What an idiot.



Has the story of the missing 7 hours been told yet?

nymr83
Sep 02 2021 07:41 AM
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Johnny Lunchbucket wrote:

What an idiot.



Has the story of the missing 7 hours been told yet?


Strip club?

batmagadanleadoff
Sep 02 2021 07:46 AM
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From The Athletic's scathing article on the Mers culture:


Callaway, Porter, Scott – that's three strikes for Alderson, who, lest anyone forget, also tried hard to sign free-agent pitcher Trevor Bauer, who instead went to the Dodgers and is under investigation for allegations of sexual assault in California. What exactly is the Mets' definition of due diligence when pursuing players and executives? Seeing whether they can spell their names correctly?

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 02 2021 07:53 AM
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I don't see that Zack Scott is in the same category as Callaway and Porter, unless he has a documented history of DUI or DWI. Even if there's a record of him being an alcoholic (and I have no idea if he is or isn't) are we saying that alcoholics are ineligible for employment?

ashie62
Sep 02 2021 08:06 AM
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Mets will likely offer Rehab. They can help him with this issue be it minimal or chronic. If he does not accept he is likely finished in this organization.



It must have been a helluva fundraiser.

Edgy MD
Sep 02 2021 08:10 AM
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Yeah, I'm not sure due diligence is going to pick up on a likelihood to get picked up on a DUI.



In retrospect, it would seem the the clues were there with Calloway and Porter, if you were willing to pursue it. Maybe, however, we'll find out more about Scott's background that the Mets might have missed, as we go forward.

Edgy MD
Sep 02 2021 08:11 AM
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Mets will likely offer Rehab.


Which means that the Mets might end up with a GM who is both "interim" and "acting."



Wild guess: Todd Zeile.

Ceetar
Sep 02 2021 08:22 AM
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Johnny Lunchbucket wrote:

What an idiot.



Has the story of the missing 7 hours been told yet?


Unless he WAS actually still with Cohen and partying and other players/people saw him there, we probably won't hear about where he decided to spend that time. Asleep at an actual intersection probably means he wasn't asleep for hours or anything. I don't see any strip clubs in the area (anyone know where he lives? was this like, the last 5 blocks? because otherwise seems unlikely he'd be on that street without having been local.)



There's a "speakeasy" real close to where he was snoozing. open until 4. Pretty sweet cocktail list, with fun names like purple panties(gin, butterfly pea blossom, elderflower, lemon, prosecco), well slapped arse, daddy issues, grounds for divorce, filthy animal..





Of course, it could've easily been something more illicit and underground. Booze is the Occam's Razor answer, but we only know he failed the field sobriety test.

Edgy MD
Sep 02 2021 08:49 AM
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While I'm joking about Todd Zeile, I think we will learn more about the night and the unacccounted-for hours.

A Boy Named Seo
Sep 02 2021 09:13 AM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:

I don't see that Zack Scott is in the same category as Callaway and Porter, unless he has a documented history of DUI or DWI. Even if there's a record of him being an alcoholic (and I have no idea if he is or isn't) are we saying that alcoholics are ineligible for employment?


Nah, I think he absolutely should be eligible for employment here or elsewhere, but this demonstrates some lousy judgement and will be the #1 reason he's not retained.

kcmets
Sep 02 2021 09:26 AM
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"I'd like to try a 'daddy issues' please, make it a double. Do you serve go-cups?"

Ceetar
Sep 02 2021 09:36 AM
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Daddy issues is Gin, Italicus (bergamot liquor), Basil and Citrus. it's described as 'bright, snappy" and will run you $34 for two, plus tip.

Johnny Lunchbucket
Sep 02 2021 09:46 AM
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Johnny Lunchbucket wrote:

What an idiot.



Has the story of the missing 7 hours been told yet?


Unless he WAS actually still with Cohen and partying and other players/people saw him there, we probably won't hear about where he decided to spend that time.


Sure we will. Those reporters whose work you so often devalue will be on it, he's got to appear in court, and at some point the org will know the debts, even though they will attempt to keep them under wraps. My question was only had it come out yet, not will it come out.

Ceetar
Sep 02 2021 09:59 AM
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It's not a criminal trial. He may never actually see a courtroom. It's not like they're going to piece together his day and put up evidence. His whereabouts or how he got to that intersection are not even relevant. At best, you'd get a "were you under the influence?" "no" "Cop, was he under the influence?" "he failed the sobriety test, could not walk a straight line, etc" Court finds in favor of the city of white plains. $1000, license revoked for 6 months. NEXT.



Any nobody really knows who the hell this guy is, so while it's possible, it's unlikely some random bartender is gonna be like "yeah, Scott was here, drinking heavily!" And even if he did, so what? he was drinking, we already kind of suspect that. If it's anything illicit, even less likely they're gonna come out and be like "yeah, that dude was doing meth with me!" (seems unlikely it was a simulant of course)





If it happened with the Mets/Cohen, we'll probably find out something more eventually though.

Edgy MD
Sep 02 2021 10:12 AM
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I think we need money on this. Will further details of Zack Scott's lost hours and activities on the night in question be revealed publicly?

Johnny Lunchbucket
Sep 02 2021 10:21 AM
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I got 50 Cranebucks that Joel Sherman, whom some of us have so little regard for, will enlighten us further. And credit to Ceetar, I hadn't even considered asking bartenders along the route between Stamford and White Plains. But there couldn't be too many for a gumshoe to get to.. finally, I'd suspect he probably wasn't alone,, some Met guests we know traveled by bus; but did all of them?

Edgy MD
Sep 02 2021 10:24 AM
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ceetar has already uncovered the nearest watering salon, with drinks and prices.

kcmets
Sep 02 2021 10:25 AM
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"Why the hell were you out at 4 am and snoozing at the wheel?"

"Was doing a lot of blow, and then I ran out..."

Ceetar
Sep 02 2021 10:30 AM
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someone find out where he lives, and we can get a google map search of "along the route"

duan
Sep 02 2021 11:20 AM
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the drink driving thing ... I'm sure people still do it here but it really has become socially unacceptable to have more then the smallest drink and get in the car. It's a bit more prevalent down the country but there's no way anyone in Dublin would drive to a party and have 3/4 drinks (let alone enough to make you fall asleep) and drive on home.

Don't get me wrong it USED to be very common (my grandfather for example, back in the 70s when he went to the golf club nobody would have batted an eyelid at them having best part of a bottle of wine or a few whiskeys).

Is there ever any random testing done on the roads there? We get it a lot particularly around Christmas. I also don't understand why someone who can clearly afford it doesn't just get a fucking cab/driver.

duan
Sep 02 2021 11:23 AM
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=duan post_id=76304 time=1630603244 user_id=99]
the drink driving thing ... I'm sure people still do it here but it really has become socially unacceptable to have more then the smallest drink and get in the car. It's a bit more prevalent down the country but there's no way anyone in Dublin would drive to a party and have 3/4 drinks (let alone enough to make you fall asleep) and drive on home.


sorry by 'no way anyone' - clearly people do this but people would know they are taking a real risk and there'd be no sympathy from anyone.

A Boy Named Seo
Sep 02 2021 11:28 AM
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Scott pleads not guilty. Assuming the 3 other charges were all things related to being asleep in a running car at an intersection?


[TWEET]https://twitter.com/timbhealey/status/1433467217010647046[/TWEET]

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 02 2021 11:33 AM
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Dennis Young, New York Daily News wrote:
On Thursday, he also pleaded not guilty to charges of failing to obey a traffic device, failing to change his address, and a “stop/stand/park” violation, according to the court website.


Uh oh... I haven't changed my address in over 21 years!

Ceetar
Sep 02 2021 11:38 AM
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does "Tacked on traffic violations so the city can get some $$$$" count as new details? Those are merely traffic violations, he'll just pay 'em off unless the prosecutor wants to punish him.

kcmets
Sep 02 2021 11:39 AM
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=duan post_id=76304 time=1630603244 user_id=99]Is there ever any random testing done on the roads there?


Sobriety checkpoints are quite common here in Westchester (county north

of NYC) and they bag a lot of dumb dumbs regularly at them.

Ceetar
Sep 02 2021 11:47 AM
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Only time I've seen a check in the last like 10 years is leaving the wineries on Long Island at closing time. And that's more NIMBY stuff anyway. Sometimes outside like, Jones Beach concerns or things like that.

G-Fafif
Sep 02 2021 12:40 PM
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Another Alderson steps to the fore…


Acting Mets general manager Zack Scott pleaded not guilty to a drunk driving charge in Westchester County, according to court filings.



Scott, who was charged with driving while intoxicated in the early hours on Tuesday morning, also pleaded not guilty to three other traffic violations.



He was arrested in White Plains after police found him asleep in his car at 4:15 a.m., cops say.



Hours after Scott's court appearance, the GM was placed on administrative leave, the team said. Team president Sandy Alderson will replace him.



Alderson interviewed Scott and Jared Porter for the team's vacant GM job before hiring Porter in December. Porter was fired a month later after news broke that he had sexually harassed a reporter while a Cubs executive in 2016. The team elevated Scott from assistant GM but left “acting” in his title.



Sources with knowledge of the situation said Alderson's son, Bryn Alderson, will also be more involved in the day-to-day responsibilities, while chiefly answering to his dad. Bryn Alderson was promoted to assistant GM in July alongside Ian Levin. The younger Alderson joined the Mets as a pro scout in 2011 and was promoted to assistant director of pro scouting in 2017 under then-GM Brodie Van Wagenen.



One source familiar with the new front-office hierarchy told the Daily News it will be an “all-hands on deck” situation and a “group responsibility.” Sources said Sandy Alderson has been advised to focus on baseball, shifting from his previous team president duties, for the remainder of the 2021 season.


https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/ny-zack-scott-dwi-not-guilty-20210902-awls6m2v2nb77egxk5dtycyshu-story.html

Edgy MD
Sep 02 2021 01:01 PM
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Four GMs in one year!



Gonna take a lot of math figuring out how to split that championship bonus.

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 02 2021 01:04 PM
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At least Sandy's son isn't named Jeff. Or Eric. Or Don Jr.