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Zack Scott's Lost Night


None. 0 votes

A little. 5 votes

Some — more than a little, less than a lot. 3 votes

A lot. 6 votes

The whole McGraw. 2 votes

Edgy MD
Sep 02 2021 10:23 AM

How much faith do we have in our reporters to get the story?



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kcmets
Sep 02 2021 10:33 AM
Re: Zack Scott's Lost Night

I took the whole mcgraw, with a BetsPoint side-wager on a hooker

or two being involved.

Ceetar
Sep 02 2021 10:35 AM
Re: Zack Scott's Lost Night

yes, but a hooker with or without other Mets employees? Hookers don't add to the crime, nor do actual drugs. that stuff should be legal. It's the dwi that's the crime and we know that part, we just need to know if Cohen liquored him up and sent him on his way like that.

A Boy Named Seo
Sep 02 2021 10:41 AM
Re: Zack Scott's Lost Night

I think we'll learn 2 or more details, which seems like a lot.



We know the party ended at 9, so I bet we'll learn 1) if he left when the party ended or he stayed later. He was picked up over 7 hours later, about 15 miles from Cohen's house, per the Athletic. If he stopped at other spots between leaving the party and arrest, I bet 2) we'll learn that, as well.

kcmets
Sep 02 2021 10:45 AM
Re: Zack Scott's Lost Night

=Ceetar post_id=76295 time=1630600553 user_id=102]Hookers don't add to the crime


Didn't say they did, but it adds to the drama. And I'm glad you pluralized

it, because I went with more than one on BetsPoint.

Ceetar
Sep 02 2021 10:46 AM
Re: Zack Scott's Lost Night

"goes to see if he can find which hookers were working white plains monday"

Edgy MD
Sep 02 2021 10:59 AM
Re: Zack Scott's Lost Night

For the purposes of this poll, facts coming to light still count as coming to light whether or not they "should be legal."

Ceetar
Sep 02 2021 11:09 AM
Re: Zack Scott's Lost Night

also driving should be illegal by humans. give it over to the machines.

Johnny Lunchbucket
Sep 02 2021 12:12 PM
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I agree pretty much with that radical take.



I got my brother in white plains who works in the hospitality industry on speculation duty

Johnny Lunchbucket
Sep 02 2021 02:45 PM
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He suspects if he were at a bar, it wasn't in White Plains-- for one, they all close by 2 am; for another "there's nothing in that part of town except a hospital and a train station."



That opens whole new mysteries

Ceetar
Sep 02 2021 02:50 PM
Re: Zack Scott's Lost Night

the speakeasy i mentioned claims it's open until 4.

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 02 2021 02:52 PM
Re: Zack Scott's Lost Night

That's really bad if you go to a hospital or a train station in the middle of the night to get drunk.

A Boy Named Seo
Sep 02 2021 03:29 PM
Re: Zack Scott's Lost Night


the speakeasy i mentioned claims it's open until 4.


I'm very down with this theory, the timeline is pretty bang-on. This the one Ceets? --> https://www.theblindpigofwestchester.com/

Fman99
Sep 02 2021 04:25 PM
Re: Zack Scott's Lost Night

He's a guy who likes to drink and has free time on his hands. Maybe we can book him on the (wildly popular) Mets on Tap podcast?

Ceetar
Sep 02 2021 05:03 PM
Re: Zack Scott's Lost Night

A Boy Named Seo wrote:


the speakeasy i mentioned claims it's open until 4.


I'm very down with this theory, the timeline is pretty bang-on. This the one Ceets? --> https://www.theblindpigofwestchester.com/




yup.hell, I'd like to go there.

ashie62
Sep 02 2021 05:20 PM
Re: Zack Scott's Lost Night

He was bombed. Closed out a bar and crapped out on his way to the Tappen Zee.

Ceetar
Sep 02 2021 05:57 PM
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=ashie62 post_id=76365 time=1630624841 user_id=90]
He was bombed. Closed out a bar and crapped out on his way to the Tappen Zee.



mario cuomo

Johnny Lunchbucket
Sep 03 2021 07:26 AM
Re: Zack Scott's Lost Night


A Boy Named Seo wrote:


the speakeasy i mentioned claims it's open until 4.


I'm very down with this theory, the timeline is pretty bang-on. This the one Ceets? --> https://www.theblindpigofwestchester.com/




yup.hell, I'd like to go there.


Blind Pig is right near where he was found. "BINGO" says Bernie Sanders

duan
Sep 03 2021 08:29 AM
Re: Zack Scott's Lost Night

Looks pretty nice all right.



I'd never heard of White Plains till two days ago.



It's funny I knew all of the Manhattan, Queens and Brooklyn (well not ALL but you know what i mean) - I also even knew a few places in New Jersey (Universal Merchandising had part of a warehouse in Harrison where i had to go) but these sort of commuter towns are a mystery to me.

Johnny Lunchbucket
Sep 08 2021 08:48 AM
Re: Zack Scott's Lost Night

No details on the lost night yet but sure sounds like Scott is a goner: https://nypost.com/2021/09/08/sandy-alderson-hasnt-heard-from-zack-scott-since-dwi-arrest/



Not sure how to interpret Sandy's remarks on Rojas.

Ceetar
Sep 08 2021 10:04 AM
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That's an aggressive no-comment on Scott for sure. Read something in the Athletic today, forgot by who, that suggested he was gone too. Whether or not it is a 'criminal case' shouldn't really matter as to what the Mets do with him, but I guess they don't want to commit and then have to backtrack if more comes out and they had kept him.



Truthfully Sandy needs to go and it should start soon.



Making the playoffs probably matters for Rojas, but I can't see how they retain him. I think Sandy's comments were just to sort of say "we have confidence in him right now" just to avoid drama as the playoffs are still in play.



But that's always been Sandy's MO. Saying nothing as much as possible, and his quote about not making the 'mistake' of saying he was going to hire a baseball president guy last year as if THAT was what the problem was.

stevejrogers
Sep 18 2021 09:17 AM
Re: Zack Scott's Lost Night


A Boy Named Seo wrote:


the speakeasy i mentioned claims it's open until 4.


I'm very down with this theory, the timeline is pretty bang-on. This the one Ceets? --> https://www.theblindpigofwestchester.com/




yup.hell, I'd like to go there.


This intrepid Mets On Tap reporter popped in last night following a flight and watching the Mets at a nearby microbrew's (Wolf And Warrior) tap room.



It was very busy (usual for the area on a Friday night), I just had a house lager (from a company in Boston), and a Guinness.



Interestingly, it was an Irish tavern going back to the 1930s until the owner cashed out a few years ago, and reopened under new management as a cocktail lounge shortly before the pandemic started.



Bar was a nice 40s throwback, no TV's though, but it isn't meant to be a sports bar. Restaurant lounge area was nice and swanky, with a heater that played a projection of a fireplace.

Johnny Lunchbucket
Sep 18 2021 10:29 AM
Re: Zack Scott's Lost Night

On Tuesday Bernie Sanders was telling me he watched Game 1 of the 15 series there when it was an "old man's bar." At any rate, Rogers, did you drill your servers for details? Good tips could come in handy here.

stevejrogers
Sep 18 2021 10:43 AM
Re: Zack Scott's Lost Night

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote:

On Tuesday Bernie Sanders was telling me he watched Game 1 of the 15 series there when it was an "old man's bar." At any rate, Rogers, did you drill your servers for details? Good tips could come in handy here.


Way too busy to chat with bartenders about who may have closed the joint down before getting caught snoozing down the block a few weeks back ;) Might hit up one of their social media profiles about the CPF theory, hope whomever drives the account is a fellow Met fan and/or knows about the story ;)

Edgy MD
Sep 18 2021 12:25 PM
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Go boldly, Steve. We've got your back.

Johnny Lunchbucket
Nov 01 2021 05:44 PM
Re: Zack Scott's Lost Night

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Edgy MD
Nov 01 2021 07:48 PM
Re: Zack Scott's Lost Night

Oh, man.

kcmets
Nov 01 2021 07:55 PM
Re: Zack Scott's Lost Night

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Centerfield
Nov 01 2021 08:36 PM
Re: Zack Scott's Lost Night

Edgy MD wrote:
Oh, man.


A shame right? I don't see how one lost night can outweigh all the talent he had demonstrated during his short time with the Mets.



I mean, so demonstrably demonstrated.

Edgy MD
Nov 01 2021 09:09 PM
Re: Zack Scott's Lost Night

Oh, I can't really speak to his talent. I don't know what I'd've done to confront what a Mets executive had to face this year.



I can't even claim this is unjust in the micro. But in the macro, most well funded contemporary organizations tend to deal with these issues in a more engaging, pro-active way, suspension and counseling as they apply. And several times in a row now, the Mets have dealt with apparent employee misbehavior with severance. I tend to think that's done to make a public-image-conscious organization look hard-line and serious while not truly (or not necessarily) addressing systemic issues, or really making the world safer.



A suspension and/or counseling is almost certainly what would have happened if it was a player who had done what has been reportedly done by Scott. Perhaps less.



On the other hand (a) I have no idea if internal investigations have revealed Scott to have done more than what has been reported, and (b) I have no way of knowing (though I doubt) if Scott was let go on job performance alone.

G-Fafif
Jan 06 2022 08:41 AM
Re: Zack Scott's Lost Night

Not guilty.


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kcmets
Jan 06 2022 10:48 AM
Re: Zack Scott's Lost Night

CNBC 01/06/2022 -

Former New York Mets acting GM Zack Scott found not

guilty in DWI case that cost job

Frayed Knot
Jan 06 2022 10:55 AM
Re: Zack Scott's Lost Night

iow: I didn't do it and I won't do it again.

Gwreck
Jan 06 2022 11:52 AM
Re: Zack Scott's Lost Night

Sleeping in your car at 4 AM while illegally parked, on the night after a team function at the owner's house is a tremendous lapse of judgment, even if he was not driving while intoxicated. Plenty to apologize for.

Centerfield
Jan 06 2022 01:05 PM
Re: Zack Scott's Lost Night

I see something like this, and I wonder how much trouble I avoided because at some point in the night, I look at my watch and say "alright guys, it's been fun, but i better get home before my wife kicks the shit outta me".

ashie62
Jan 06 2022 04:01 PM
Re: Zack Scott's Lost Night

innocent my ass

kcmets
Jan 06 2022 04:30 PM
Re: Zack Scott's Lost Night

Not to flog a now-dead story, but was there no breathalyzer or blood test?

I've never heard of anyone getting off by not appearing drunk on a body-cam

video of a sobriety field test being played in court. And if he didn't appear drunk

in the field tests why was he arrested. Shouldn't the officer have to answer to that?



It all really doesn't add up but whatever.

Edgy MD
Jan 06 2022 05:34 PM
Re: Zack Scott's Lost Night

There's ambiguity from case to case, jurisdiction to jurisdiction, and jury to jury as to whether a guy found drunk at his wheel in a non-moving vehicle constitutes DWI.



A number of factors (Was the engine running? Was the car seen to have been in gear at any point? Was the car pulled away from the curb?) can move the needle.



"It was cold and I was keeping the engine running to stay warm while I waited for my ride to come. I also wanted to listen to the radio to help me stay awake."



It's a gray area. If cops come across a drunk-looking person in the driver's seat, should they wait until the car is in motion to get the full violation, or intervene immediately in the name of safety? Different cops may answer differently. Most jurisdictions treat DUIs/DWIs as serious misdemeanors rather than felonies, but there are plenty of departments that are going to judge an officer largely on his or her arrest stats, so there may be motivation to get an arrest-able offense out of the situation.

kcmets
Jan 06 2022 06:02 PM
Re: Zack Scott's Lost Night

I know all that, but if you or I were found sleeping in a running car at a traffic

light and charged with a DWI in White Plains, NY at 4:00 am I can assure you

(98.378% of the time) you're getting the book thrown at you. And rightly so.



He skated.

Edgy MD
Jan 06 2022 08:39 PM
Re: Zack Scott's Lost Night

Sounds like he did have the book thrown at him by prosecutors, but the judge wasn't persuaded during the trial and instead found him guilty on lesser charges. This was reported to be the expectation weeks ago during the trial, when the bodycam footage was reportedly inconclusive.

kcmets
Jan 06 2022 08:52 PM
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It's like you haven't read what I wrote.

Edgy MD
Jan 06 2022 10:39 PM
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I thought I read fine. I'm not sure what suggests otherwise, but I am sorry.



OE: I think the difference is the understanding of "throw the book" which I have used to mean the prosecution aggressively charges a guy, but I think you use to mean when a court aggressively convicts and sentences a guy, which is probably the more common meaning. I will work on my idioms and get back to you.

G-Fafif
Jan 07 2022 06:01 AM
Re: Zack Scott's Lost Night

Scott had been pulled over at 4:17 a.m. on Aug. 31 in White Plains, just down the block from the courthouse he occupied Thursday. He had been on his way home from Mets owner Steve Cohen's fundraiser earlier that night in Greenwich, Conn. On body-camera footage shown during the trial, Scott acknowledged to officers that he'd been drinking roughly two hours earlier at The Blind Pig of Westchester, a restaurant down the block from where he was stopped.



Officer Frank Confalone conducted a standardized field sobriety test on Scott, consisting of three tests: The horizontal gaze nystagmus (checking for jerking of the eyeballs, which increases when someone is intoxicated), the walk-and-turn and the one-legged stand. Confalone determined that Scott failed each of the three tests, and he thus arrested him on suspicion of DWI. At the police station, Scott twice declined a chemical breathalyzer test; he had not been offered one at the scene as the officers there did not have the necessary equipment with them for a test.


https://theathletic.com/3054894/2022/01/06/former-mets-executive-zack-scott-found-not-guilty-of-dwi-what-happened-at-the-trial-and-his-reaction-to-the-verdict/

Benjamin Grimm
Jan 07 2022 06:57 AM
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I'll let Fman comment on the part about "jerking of the eyeballs".

bmfc1
Jan 07 2022 07:15 AM
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Good for Zack. I hope that he can get another job in baseball soon. (I am not commenting on the justice system, "white man's justice", or anything else; I am just glad that the legal part of this is over.)