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Edgy MD Sep 27 2021 01:44 PM

One takeaway from the last month, as the Mets went from a bad team in August that perhaps wasn't quite as terrible as their record to ... a bad team in September that was every bit as terrible as their record*: I don't think whatever effect Luis was going for by locking in his lineup on September 1 — and running it out there almost every day — worked. Smith played his way out of the lineup, no doubt, but the idea that McNeil had claimed the job in a way that Smith hadn't was spurious. Villar certainly earned a lot of playing time, but what insult did J.D. Davis utter that led to him all but disappearing? J.D. certainly didn't distinguish himself in his five starts, but Villar playing third base every night sure suggested that he wasn't an everyday thirdbaseman either. Kevin Pillar still got plenty of cuts in September. But it was easy to forget that Luis Guillorme, on the other hand, was even still on the roster. I don't know what Luis' prospects are going forward, but I hope the forensic study on his decision-making is thorough. * Pythagoras doesn't support this categorization, by the way.

kcmets Sep 27 2021 02:06 PM Re: Coda

I'll take 'disappointing rock albums' for $600, Alex.

Johnny Lunchbucket Sep 27 2021 02:25 PM Re: Coda

Yeah all good points. All that said, I'm almost indifferent to whether they bring Luis back and that's wrapped up in the bigger question of whom his bosses will be. At the very least, having a guy with lots or org knowledge and experience managing (even if those experiences include not making easy to make playoffs 2 years straight) have got to count for something

Lefty Specialist Sep 27 2021 03:19 PM Re: Coda

Oh, I know what Luis' prospects are going forward. Nonexistent. He'll be fired about 15 minutes after the end of the game next Sunday.

MFS62 Sep 27 2021 03:24 PM Re: Coda

Building a winning team is like a chemical reaction. When it fizzles, you have to add or remove elements to achieve the desired result. Or you may have to do both. This team appears to need both. BTW - Forensic isn't just a post-mortem (As used in crime shows). The definition of Forensic is anything that could be admitted as evidence in a court of law. While many might have described this season as criminal, I'm not sure whether anybody is going to get sued or arrested as a result. Later

Edgy MD Sep 27 2021 05:13 PM Re: Coda

Lefty Specialist wrote: Oh, I know what Luis' prospects are going forward. Nonexistent. He'll be fired about 15 minutes after the end of the game next Sunday. Sounds like a betting man. I suspect they'll want their president o' baseball operations on the payroll before they commit to their manager one way or the other.

Willets Point Sep 27 2021 05:56 PM Re: Coda

I'll take 'disappointing rock albums' for $600, Alex. I always thought "Bonzo's Montreux" was pretty cool.

kcmets Sep 27 2021 06:01 PM Re: Coda

Sure! I listened to it twice today.

Edgy MD Sep 27 2021 06:44 PM Re: Coda

It was a release-stuff-from-unconnected-past-sessions-in-order-to-fulfill-our-contractual-obligation album, right? I guess I'm a "Darlene" man. I likem de rock'n'roll.

Marshmallowmilkshake Sep 27 2021 06:48 PM Re: Coda Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 27 2021 08:56 PM

=kcmets post_id=78713 time=1632787260 user_id=53] Sure! I listened to it twice today.

I like “Ozone Baby.”



I think I agree with Andy Martino in that Rojas is viewed as a special talent and a 60 game season followed by a season where he was in first place until mid-August will not bring about his demise.



The injuries - and several key players having uncharacteristic bad seasons -undermined everything and I don't see how he gets the blame.



Martino said if Rojas does get axed, he won't be unemployed for long.



Meanwhile, if you cut him loose, who are you replacing him with who is so much better? If Beane and Melvin come as a package, that's one thing. But we they're going to go searching, it's another.



Perhaps a one-year extension buys the organization some stability while the new president of baseball ops and a new GM come on board, and they have a year to evaluate and decide if they want their own guy in there.

bmfc1 Sep 27 2021 07:54 PM Re: Coda

Martino seems to have a crush on Luis but his hopes will be crushed on Monday (I think). He can go make bad decisions for another team as far as I'm concerned. "the idea that McNeil had claimed the job in a way that Smith hadn't was spurious." Yeah. I didn't understand why McNeil was selected and not Dom but maybe the analytics staff saw something and decided to lock it in for the month (as Edgy said). "it was easy to forget that Luis Guillorme, on the other hand, was even still on the roster." On September 14 perhaps Luis forgot when, as I drove home from Jason Isbell, Baez tied it in the 9th and then Rojas used Reed, who was just off the IL, in the 11th when Devin Williams was available and STL scored 3. The Mets scored 2, had the tying run on 2d with 2 outs, a LHP on the mound, so Luis PH Almora instead of Guillorme because lefty/righty even though Guillorme is a far superior hitter and the Mets lost. Almora was sent down the next day and was just DFA'd and that's who the manager used in a big situation.

Fman99 Sep 27 2021 08:40 PM Re: Coda

Edgy MD wrote: It was a release-stuff-from-unconnected-past-sessions-in-order-to-fulfill-our-contractual-obligation album, right? I guess I'm a "Darlene" man. I likem de rock'n'roll. Yeah I went back and listened to the whole album again, this is my choice too.

Johnny Lunchbucket Sep 28 2021 07:15 AM Re: Coda

Maybe the best solution is redeploying Luis elsewhere in the org if/when the new Baseball Boss brings in his guys.

kcmets Sep 28 2021 08:44 AM Re: Coda

[BLOCKQUOTE]Maybe the best solution is redeploying Luis elsewhere in the org if/when the new Baseball Boss brings in his guys.[/BLOCKQUOTE] I like that idea. I watch (record) all his post game comments and answers and I think he's a baseball guy through and through. Team needs a drastic change of 'scenery' and firing the skip is gonna have to be the first place to start.