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Under New Management 2022

G-Fafif Oct 02 2021 01:45 PM

Jayce Tingler reportedly out as Padre skipper.

G-Fafif Oct 02 2021 02:56 PM Re: Under New Management 2022

Padres say Tingler's still their manager…for today.

Lefty Specialist Oct 02 2021 03:13 PM Re: Under New Management 2022

Well, now he can resume his career in the porn business.

Edgy MD Oct 02 2021 03:15 PM Re: Under New Management 2022

Poor Jayce getting the Art Howe treatment. "We don't want or need you to manage, now get out there and manage."

G-Fafif Oct 06 2021 01:51 PM Re: Under New Management 2022

Jayce Tingler's Padre sense is no longer tingling. He's been officially Rojased.

MFS62 Oct 06 2021 02:15 PM Re: Under New Management 2022

Jayce Tingler's Padre sense is no longer tingling. He's been officially Rojased. "They left Tingler dangling " is a tongue twister. Later

Frayed Knot Oct 06 2021 02:38 PM Re: Under New Management 2022

Jayce Tingler's Padre sense is no longer tingling. He's been officially Rojased. "They left Tingler dangling " is a tongue twister. 18 states also consider it to be pornographic language not to be used within 200 feet of elementary schools.

roger_that Oct 06 2021 02:58 PM Re: Under New Management 2022

Every Tingler knows that someday he will be Rojased. Some are merely Booning for now.

G-Fafif Oct 14 2021 12:52 PM Re: Under New Management 2022

Cardinals have had enough of that Shildt. Mike is out as St. Loo skipper. [tweet]https://twitter.com/jeffpassan/status/1448722473135005698[/tweet]

Frayed Knot Oct 14 2021 12:55 PM Re: Under New Management 2022

That one surprises me.

bmfc1 Oct 14 2021 01:00 PM Re: Under New Management 2022

It appears to have surprised every baseball writer, as well. Perhaps the next manager of the Mets or Padres?

ashie62 Oct 14 2021 01:08 PM Re: Under New Management 2022

Shildt goes to Schitts Creek.

smg58 Oct 14 2021 01:49 PM Re: Under New Management 2022

I'm curious what the philosophical differences were. But I'd have already called Shildt and/or his agent.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 14 2021 02:08 PM Re: Under New Management 2022

He has such a silly name. Maybe he can change it to Bob Shildt or Tom Shildt or something like that.

Edgy MD Oct 14 2021 02:38 PM Re: Under New Management 2022

Sounds like the post-season meeting didn't go as planned.

Frayed Knot Oct 14 2021 02:51 PM Re: Under New Management 2022

=smg58 post_id=79782 time=1634240959 user_id=62] I'm curious what the philosophical differences were.

Not enough vowels.

Then, when he tried to hire Kent Hrbek as one of his coaches, well ... that was the last straw.

Edgy MD Oct 14 2021 03:07 PM Re: Under New Management 2022

I'm pretty sure it was one of those what's the right way to hang the toilet paper? thingies. That's ended more than one managerial tenure. #PhilosophicalDifferences

Edgy MD Oct 14 2021 03:10 PM Re: Under New Management 2022

More seriously, that guy's team had a terrific second half, starting with pretty much the moment I dreamed up the notion that the Cards would be bailing at the deadline and sending the Mets Adam Wainwright. #DOH

bmfc1 Oct 14 2021 03:28 PM Re: Under New Management 2022

From this quote, I'm guessing that management told him to do something in the WC loss to the Dodgers and he didn't obey: [TWEET]https://twitter.com/Feinsand/status/1448726545749643276[/TWEET]

Edgy MD Oct 14 2021 03:37 PM Re: Under New Management 2022

Really? That's sounds like Mozeliak was asking for a lot of faith.

Frayed Knot Oct 15 2021 05:43 PM Re: Under New Management 2022 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 15 2021 06:40 PM

TEAM MANAGER CONTRACT THRU HIRED ANGELS Joe Maddon 2022 Oct '19 ASTROS Dusty Baker 2021 Jan '20 2021 Option picked up July ‘20 ATHLETICS =#008000]Bob Melvin 2022 Jun '11 =#008000]2022 option picked up Jun ‘21 BLUE JAYS Charlie Montoyo 2021 + 2022 Option Oct ‘18 2022 option picked up Mar ‘21 BRAVES Brian Snitker 2023 + Option for 2024 May ‘16 Signed Extension Feb ‘21 BREWERS Craig Counsel 2023 May '15 Signed Extension thru '23 in Jan ‘20 CARDINALS =#FF0000]Mike Schildt —— July '18 =#FF0000]Fired Oct '21 w/one season remaining CUBS David Ross 2022 + 2023 option Oct '19 DBACKS =#008000] Torey Luvello 2022 + 2023 option Nov '16 =#008000]Signed extension Sept ‘21 DODGERS Dave Roberts 2022 Nov ‘15 GIANTS Gabe Kapler 2022 Nov '19 INDIANS Terry Francona 2022 Oct ‘12 MARINERS =#008000]Scott Servais ??? Oct ‘15 =#008000]Signed multi-year extension in Sept ‘21 MARLINS =#008000]Don Mattingly 2022 Nov '15 =#008000]2022 option picked up July ‘21 METS =#FF0000]Luis Rojas —— Jan '20 =#FF0000]Not offered new contract NATIONALS Dave Martinez 2023 Oct ‘17 ORIOLES Brandon Hyde 2022 Dec ‘18 PADRES =#FF0000]Jayce Tingler —— Oct '19 =#FF0000]Not offered new contract PHILLIES Joe Girardi 2022 + '23 Option Oct ‘19 PIRATES Derek Shelton ??? Nov ‘19 RANGERS Chris Woodward 2022 Sep '18 2022 option picked up Mar ‘21 RAYS Kevin Cash 2024 + 2025 Option Dec ‘14 RED SOX Alex Cora 2021 + 2022 option Nov '20 REDS =#008000]David Bell 2022 + 2023 Option Oct '18 =#008000]Signed extension Sept ‘21 ROCKIES Bud Black 2022 Nov ‘16 ROYALS Mike Matheny ??? Oct ‘19 TIGERS A J Hinch 2021 + ??? Oct '20 TWINS Rocco Baldelli ??? Oct ‘18 WHITE SOX =#008000]Tony LaRussa 2021 + ??? Oct '20 =#008000]Will return for 2022 YANKEES Aaron Boone 2021 Dec ‘17 Status undetermined

So, so far we have just three known openings with two others in limbo for now.

Willets Point Oct 15 2021 05:45 PM Re: Under New Management 2022

The Ghost of George Steinbrenner fired Boone ages ago.

Frayed Knot Oct 15 2021 06:38 PM Re: Under New Management 2022

Willets Point wrote: The Ghost of George Steinbrenner fired Boone ages ago. Over the result of a spring training game.

Edgy MD Oct 16 2021 09:07 AM Re: Under New Management 2022

Frayed Knot wrote: Willets Point wrote: The Ghost of George Steinbrenner fired Boone ages ago. Over the result of a spring training game. An intra-squad spring training game.

MFS62 Oct 16 2021 09:38 AM Re: Under New Management 2022

Edgy MD wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: Willets Point wrote: The Ghost of George Steinbrenner fired Boone ages ago. Over the result of a spring training game. An intra-squad spring training game. A loss is a loss. Later

Lefty Specialist Oct 16 2021 12:56 PM Re: Under New Management 2022

Hm. Schildt seemed like a good guy. I'd at least kick the tires.

G-Fafif Oct 25 2021 05:50 AM Re: Under New Management 2022

Toast and Marmol-ade for Cards. From the subscription-based Athletic: The St. Louis Cardinals will announce Oliver Marmol as the team's next manager on Monday morning, sources tell The Athletic. Marmol, 35, had been bench coach for the Cardinals since 2019 and previously was first base coach for the two seasons prior. The Cardinals fired manager Mike Shildt earlier this month after four seasons with the club. John Mozeliak, Cardinals president of baseball operations, cited “philosophical differences” for doing so. Shildt ended his tenure in St. Louis with a 252-199 record and three playoff appearances. Marmol, 35, will be the youngest manager in MLB. He will also be the first Cardinals manager of color since Mike González in 1940. The Cardinals, who finished the 2021 season 90-72, lost 3-1 to the Los Angeles Dodgers in the National League wild card game. https://theathletic.com/news/st-louis-cardinals-to-introduce-oliver-marmol-as-manager-on-monday-sources/trsYs3liFFbf/

smg58 Oct 25 2021 01:25 PM Re: Under New Management 2022

From this quote, I'm guessing that management told him to do something in the WC loss to the Dodgers and he didn't obey: [TWEET]https://twitter.com/Feinsand/status/1448726545749643276[/TWEET] If the front office tried to tell him how to manage and he told them where they could go and what they could do to themselves when they got there, then he's exactly the guy I want.

bmfc1 Oct 25 2021 01:55 PM Re: Under New Management 2022

I agree, smg58, but I fear that if they want Shildt they won't be able to get him as he's already under consideration by SD and the Mets are waiting until they hire a GM/POBO.

Edgy MD Oct 25 2021 02:19 PM Re: Under New Management 2022

I wouldn't worry about that. If they are able to recognize the right guy, there are hundreds of right guys out there. I think a greater concern is the effect the front office job search might have on delaying the Mets in the player market, which is a much more finite field.

G-Fafif Oct 25 2021 08:51 PM Re: Under New Management 2022

Luis Rojas interviewed for the Padres job. His experience at the helm of a team that ran off track en route to the playoffs might be valuable in San Diego. https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/padres/story/2021-10-25/padres-luis-rojas-mike-shildt-ruben-niebla-manager-pitching-coach

bmfc1 Oct 25 2021 11:47 PM Re: Under New Management 2022

Edgy MD wrote: I wouldn't worry about that. If they are able to recognize the right guy, there are hundreds of right guys out there. I think a greater concern is the effect the front office job search might have on delaying the Mets in the player market, which is a much more finite field. I agree with your second point. My point is that if Shildt is the shit then they won't get him and SD will. If he's not the right guy then, yes, it doesn't matter.

Frayed Knot Oct 26 2021 03:30 AM Re: Under New Management 2022

=bmfc1 post_id=80203 time=1635227268 user_id=73]... My point is that if Shildt is the shit then they won't get him ...

And, remember, you can spell Shildt without S H I T

Fman99 Oct 26 2021 05:23 AM Re: Under New Management 2022

Padres kicking the tires on Luis Rojas. Surprised he'd be on anyone's radar to be honest.

Frayed Knot Oct 26 2021 06:37 AM Re: Under New Management 2022

One new hire, one extension TEAM MANAGER CONTRACT THRU HIRED ANGELS Joe Maddon 2022 Oct '19 ASTROS Dusty Baker 2021 Jan '20 2021 Option picked up July ‘20 ATHLETICS =#008000]Bob Melvin 2022 Jun '11 =#008000]2022 option picked up Jun ‘21 BLUE JAYS Charlie Montoyo 2021 + 2022 Option Oct ‘18 2022 option picked up Mar ‘21 BRAVES Brian Snitker 2023 + Option for 2024 May ‘16 Signed Extension Feb ‘21 BREWERS Craig Counsel 2023 May '15 Signed Extension thru '23 in Jan ‘20 CARDINALS =#FF0000]Oliver Marmol 2024 Oct '21 =#FF0000]Hired to replace Mike Shildt 10/25/21 CUBS David Ross 2022 + 2023 option Oct '19 DBACKS =#008000] Torey Luvello 2022 + 2023 option Nov '16 =#008000]Signed extension Sept ‘21 DODGERS Dave Roberts 2022 Nov ‘15 GIANTS Gabe Kapler 2022 Nov '19 INDIANS Terry Francona 2022 Oct ‘12 MARINERS =#008000]Scott Servais ??? Oct ‘15 =#008000]Signed multi-year extension in Sept ‘21 MARLINS =#008000]Don Mattingly 2022 Nov '15 =#008000]2022 option picked up July ‘21 METS =#FF0000]Luis Rojas —— Jan '20 =#FF0000]Not offered new contract NATIONALS Dave Martinez 2023 Oct ‘17 ORIOLES Brandon Hyde 2022 Dec ‘18 PADRES =#FF0000]Jayce Tingler —— Oct '19 =#FF0000]Not offered new contract PHILLIES Joe Girardi 2022 + '23 Option Oct ‘19 PIRATES Derek Shelton ??? Nov ‘19 RANGERS Chris Woodward 2022 Sep '18 2022 option picked up Mar ‘21 RAYS Kevin Cash 2024 + 2025 Option Dec ‘14 RED SOX Alex Cora 2021 + 2022 option Nov '20 REDS =#008000]David Bell 2022 + 2023 Option Oct '18 =#008000]Signed extension Sept ‘21 ROCKIES Bud Black 2022 Nov ‘16 ROYALS Mike Matheny ??? Oct ‘19 TIGERS A J Hinch 2021 + ??? Oct '20 TWINS Rocco Baldelli ??? Oct ‘18 WHITE SOX =#008000]Tony LaRussa 2021 + ??? Oct '20 =#008000]Will return for 2022 YANKEES =#FF0000]Aaron Boone 2024 Dec ‘17 =#FF0000]Signed Three Year Extension 10/19/21

Willets Point Oct 26 2021 08:20 AM Re: Under New Management 2022

Yankees fans must be pissed about the Boone extension. Good.

Frayed Knot Oct 27 2021 04:30 PM Re: Under New Management 2022

The Padres are talking to Ozzie Guillen. That's a ship I figured had sailed for good.

G-Fafif Oct 28 2021 06:24 PM Re: Under New Management 2022

Bob Melvin to the Pads.

bmfc1 Oct 29 2021 07:26 AM Re: Under New Management 2022

Nice of OAK allowed Melvin to go to another team even though he was under contract as opposed to the SOB in MIL.

Edgy MD Oct 29 2021 08:20 AM Re: Under New Management 2022

Yeah, the A's had already picked up his option for 2022. I know I'd have asked for compensation. I'd have insisted on it. A lot of speculation about whether this means a teardown (or worse) in Oakland. (Hey, what do you think they'd want for Jed Lowrie?)

G-Fafif Dec 20 2021 02:55 PM Re: Under New Management 2022

Mark Kotsay gets the call in Oakland.