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ILDST 2021: When Eight Become Four

G-Fafif
Oct 07 2021 09:50 AM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 07 2021 11:21 AM

Your League Division Series (serieses?) begin at 4:07 PM EDT today with the White Sox visiting the Astros. The Rays will host the Red Sox in prime time, plenty of good seats chronically available.



Tomorrow the NL gets underway as the AL continues, giving us that guaranteed One Crazy Day of four playoff games, topped off late by the Giants and Dodgers — which is gonna be lit! (Also Atlanta bores the nation by visiting Milwaukee.)

Frayed Knot
Oct 07 2021 10:10 AM
Re: ILDST 2021: When Eight Become Four

Astros fans must be sick of always getting the opening [read: loser] time slot.

Six times in the playoffs in the last seven seasons; twice in the WS, once a winner.

But consistently relegated to the mid-week, 3PM (local) time slot while the coastal cities get all the prime time glory.



If they were in the NFL the league would make them play in London.

Willets Point
Oct 07 2021 10:33 AM
Re: ILDST 2021: When Eight Become Four

I know TV executives and MLB executives don't think this way, but it would make sense if the game with two teams who play in the Eastern Time Zone was the early game and the game with two teams who play in the Central Time Zone was the night game. This would make it easier for the younger fans, and a good share of older fans, of these teams to watch the entire game.

Benjamin Grimm
Oct 07 2021 10:50 AM
Re: ILDST 2021: When Eight Become Four

=G-Fafif post_id=79461 time=1633621845 user_id=55]
Your League Championship Series (serieses?) begin at 4:07 PM EDT today...



You confused me there for a minute. It's the Division Series (dumb name), not the LCS.

G-Fafif
Oct 07 2021 11:21 AM
Re: ILDST 2021: When Eight Become Four

Benjamin Grimm wrote:

=G-Fafif post_id=79461 time=1633621845 user_id=55]
Your League Championship Series (serieses?) begin at 4:07 PM EDT today...


You confused me there for a minute. It's the Division Series (dumb name), not the LCS.



You caught me, like the MFYs and Deadbirds perhaps, looking ahead.

Willets Point
Oct 07 2021 02:23 PM
Re: ILDST 2021: When Eight Become Four

Got some Lance v. Lance action in the early ALDS game.

Edgy MD
Oct 07 2021 03:31 PM
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Sounds like Cinemax will have cover that one.

Frayed Knot
Oct 07 2021 04:55 PM
Re: ILDST 2021: When Eight Become Four

Willets Point wrote:

Got some Lance v. Lance action in the early ALDS game.


McCullers had the superior game to Lynn today as well as the superior beard.

Willets Point
Oct 07 2021 05:47 PM
Re: ILDST 2021: When Eight Become Four

Lance wins!



Also, Lance loses.

Frayed Knot
Oct 07 2021 08:47 PM
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TBR's Randy Arozarena picking up where he left off in last year's post-season.

Tonight he has a long HR plus just now a straight steal of home.



5-0 Rays after 7

Johnny Lunchbucket
Oct 07 2021 08:52 PM
Re: ILDST 2021: When Eight Become Four

Yeah that was cool. Boston got nothing tonight

Frayed Knot
Oct 07 2021 08:58 PM
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That's the first one that fell uncaught, but OF'ers have lost four or five fly balls tonight plus there's already been a HR off one of the catwalk 'rings,



The stadium suxx

Gwreck
Oct 07 2021 09:12 PM
Re: ILDST 2021: When Eight Become Four

Frayed Knot wrote:
But consistently relegated to the mid-week, 3PM (local) time slot while the coastal cities get all the prime time glory.


Well, they should get more fans then.



The biggest-audiences-get-best-time-slots issue inures to the Mets' benefit in good years. I don't see the issue.

Frayed Knot
Oct 08 2021 03:49 AM
Re: ILDST 2021: When Eight Become Four

Oh I know why it's the case. I'd just be sick of it if I were them, knowing that the networks automatically assigns you the least desirable time slots every single year

unless you happen to be matched up against the Yanx or Sox at which point you become the party of the other part.



The Braves get it too. Francesa used to argue that the three worst pro sports cities in the country were Atlanta, Miami, and Houston, and he was probably right about that (he had to be occasionally right about something!)



Astros/ChiSox - 2:00 today MLBN

Braves & Brewers - 4:30 TBS

bmfc1
Oct 08 2021 02:48 PM
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I shouldn't objectify but is the woman in the front row behind home in Milwaukee the same one that we discussed at another time?

MFS62
Oct 08 2021 03:39 PM
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=bmfc1 post_id=79521 time=1633726103 user_id=73]
I shouldn't objectify but is the woman in the front row behind home in Milwaukee the same one that we discussed at another time?



I had to type objectification to see if it would pass my spell checker.

It did.

Later

Willets Point
Oct 08 2021 05:39 PM
Re: ILDST 2021: When Eight Become Four

The Rays load the bases with a bunch of seeing-eye singles and then Jordan Luplow hits a grand slam. Up 5-2 in the first inning. I guess this won't be a pitching duel.

Willets Point
Oct 08 2021 07:03 PM
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Red Sox hit 4 home runs and now lead 8-5 in the 5th. Definitely not a pitching duel.

Fman99
Oct 08 2021 09:11 PM
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Braves lost. I approve. More of the same please.

Willets Point
Oct 08 2021 09:17 PM
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=Fman99 post_id=79533 time=1633749092 user_id=86]
Braves lost. I approve. More of the same please.



This.

stevejrogers
Oct 08 2021 10:14 PM
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Posey and Crawford are the last remaining members of the 2016 team that…well I don't think I can say at this time…



Same year as Kris Bryant's World Championship run though. So ghosts of Bochy's last postseason ride helping the Giants on the offensive side.

G-Fafif
Oct 08 2021 10:24 PM
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Logan Webb > Hank Webb

Fman99
Oct 09 2021 07:54 AM
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=G-Fafif post_id=79538 time=1633753449 user_id=55]
Logan Webb > Hank Webb



I prefer Spud Webb myself.

Frayed Knot
Oct 09 2021 10:22 AM
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Jack Webb could put them all behind bars.

G-Fafif
Oct 09 2021 05:33 PM
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Game 2 lineups in San Fran:



Betts RF

Seager SS

T. Turner 2B

J. Turner 3B

Smith C

Taylor CF

Bellinger 1B

Pollock LF

Urías P



Darin Ruf – LF

Kris Bryant – CF

Austin Slater – RF

Buster Posey – C

Wilmer Flores – 1B

Brandon Crawford – SS

Evan Longoria – 3B

Donovan Solano – 2B

Kevin Gausman – RHP

G-Fafif
Oct 09 2021 05:38 PM
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Meanwhile, Braves maintain a 3-0 lead in their Game Two at Stiller (Still Miller) Park as they and those who Brew head for the eighth.

Fman99
Oct 09 2021 07:15 PM
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I have the late game on but I really don't care who wins this series, now that I'm watching. I guess I hate the Dodgers more but

Frayed Knot
Oct 09 2021 07:39 PM
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I'm pulling for the Brews & Giants, and, to a lesser extent, ChiSox & Rays. But not all that passionately in any of those cases.

My one rooting interesting this year's post-season ended with the very first game played (AL WC).

Edgy MD
Oct 09 2021 09:06 PM
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I find it hard to get behind the Brews for anything. I'm not sure why.



I dislike Bud Selig, but don't revile him more than most or anything. I kind of hate them leaving the AL just to show it can be done.



Kinda find everything about the Ryan Braun thing gross. Actually, I found Ryan Braun kinda gross before there was a Ryan Braun thing, so maybe it's that.

Willets Point
Oct 09 2021 09:22 PM
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Perversely, I think a World Series between the Brewers and Astros with the teams representing the wrong leagues would be kind of fun.

Johnny Lunchbucket
Oct 10 2021 07:21 AM
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Yeah I've pretty much always hated the Brewers and I never thought the ball-in-glove logo was anything more than clever; it's not really good-looking.



The Brewers since coming to the NL have played a role in fouling up several late-seasons for us, most notably in 07 or 08 when they couldn't TCB at home vs. Philly while we we struggled down the line. Richie Sexton was always hitting HRs against us. Braun is a dick whose tee-shirt line was gross and ruined a FedEx guy's career rather than takex responsibility for his own shit. Contrast his career with Wright's and it'll make you vomit.



Selig was a pud who was something of a role model and enabler for the Wilpons. Just like Fred he was a self-made businessman (cars instead of real estate) whose sensibilities were so wrapped up in his 1950s youth he went and built a baseball biz out of it (Braves, Dodgers). Each of them stole a team (Selig the Pilots from Seattle, Fred the Mets from Doubleday), each of them displayed ethical shortcomings (conflicts of interest as owner-commish; Bernie Madoff profiteer). Selig was the first in modern bb to plaster outfield walls with sponsor logos, Fred saw that and sold every square inch of the stadium. Both of their parks are located in giant parking lots. I hate the Brewers.



I like the Giants.

bmfc1
Oct 10 2021 08:39 AM
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[TWEET]https://twitter.com/UmpScorecards/status/1447208014570680324[/TWEET]
1 out of every 10 calls was incorrect. I don't blame Hernandez, he can't help being awful at his job, I blame Manfred and the Umpire's Union which rewards longevity rather than ability. There was a call so bad in the first quarter of today's Jets game that I'm sure that it was made by Angel Hernandez.

G-Fafif
Oct 10 2021 02:33 PM
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Balls flying out of Fenway early, 2-1 Rays after one.

G-Fafif
Oct 10 2021 02:39 PM
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The Brewers since coming to the NL have played a role in fouling up several late-seasons for us, most notably in 07 or 08 when they couldn't TCB at home vs. Philly while we we struggled down the line.


In September 2008, the Brewers pulled off the unlikely trick of losing four straight to the Phillies to tilt the NL East away from the Mets, then, after firing their manager, getting hot enough to nose the Mets out of the Wild Card. Like a double-agent reverse-spoiler on their own behalf and against ours.



That said, they don't bother me in a vacuum.

Johnny Lunchbucket
Oct 10 2021 07:14 PM
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How do ya score this Keirmaier hit?

Johnny Lunchbucket
Oct 10 2021 07:15 PM
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Grounds-rule double, seems pretty sketchy to me

kcmets
Oct 10 2021 07:19 PM
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Yeah, Rays got dicked right there pretty bad.

G-Fafif
Oct 10 2021 07:20 PM
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That felt like the baseball equivalent of the Holy Roller.

bmfc1
Oct 10 2021 07:25 PM
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It's absurd. It wasn't "fielded cleanly" so it "retains its status as batted ball" and therefore "is a ground rule double", thus rewarding the fielder for his misplay. And it facilitates a Boston win. F that.



Because it was "deflected", Boston wins.
[TWEET]https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1447371499510374402[/TWEET]

Johnny Lunchbucket
Oct 10 2021 07:27 PM
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Crazy finish.

G-Fafif
Oct 10 2021 07:28 PM
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Rays were robbed at least a little.

kcmets
Oct 10 2021 07:30 PM
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Reminds me of Zvon for some reason. I forget the spelling but he used

to say thassa baseball or something of the like.

bmfc1
Oct 10 2021 07:48 PM
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Dusty Baker overmanages by replacing Garcia with Garcia in the middle of Garcia's at-bat and Garcia blasts a 3-run homer.

Frayed Knot
Oct 10 2021 07:50 PM
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Wondering if there's any leeway for the umps to make a different ruling if, in their judgement, the fielder intentionally deflects the ball over the wall so as to make it a GR-2B thus preventing a runner from scoring?



I don't believe that Renfroe did do that here, just a what-if kind of thing.

Frayed Knot
Oct 10 2021 08:06 PM
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HOU v CHW now tied at 6

They're also at the two hour mark and in the top of the 4th

Frayed Knot
Oct 10 2021 08:32 PM
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Even wackier (non) call in CHW/HOU game.

1st & 3rd, bouncer to 1st, throw home hits the batter/runner in the shoulder while he's several feet in fair territory inside the line.

Run scores, everyone safe, Sox now up 9-6 in a game where they trailed 6-1 about an inning (and 90 minutes) ago.



Apparently that run inside the 'lane' to 1st applies only if the play is at 1st. But this one was at home and so his running lane is whatever

he establishes it as so it's a live ball even after it deflects off of him.

Willets Point
Oct 10 2021 09:06 PM
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I was at Fenway tonight, and the was a FUN game to attend.

G-Fafif
Oct 10 2021 10:46 PM
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White Sox blackout Astros. We get another four-game day later today.

Frayed Knot
Oct 11 2021 04:52 AM
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5:14 (13 innings although it was already closing in on 4:00 by the time they were finished with 9) & 4:27



Y'know, if this trend continues it might really start to become a problem for the sport.

Frayed Knot
Oct 11 2021 06:44 AM
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Monday's slate of games



Brewers @ Braves -- 1:07 First Pitch, TBS

Astros @ White Sox -- 3:37, FS1

Rays @ Red Sox -- 7:07, FS1

Giants @ Dodgers* -- 9:37, TBS



Each of the games is almost certain to overlap with the preceding/following one









* aka, the series no one in this half of the country will see even as it involves the year's two best teams

G-Fafif
Oct 11 2021 07:56 AM
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White Sox pen went into full shutdown mode after the slugging of the game's first half. It was stimulating to watch in its own way.

Lefty Specialist
Oct 11 2021 08:31 AM
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That bank shot off Renfroe for the ground-rule double was one of the weirdest plays I've ever seen. But yes, there was a rule for it. Rule 5.05(a)(8)

Willets Point
Oct 11 2021 10:33 AM
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With the Boston Marathon running today, the Red Sox-Rays game should've started at 10 am.

G-Fafif
Oct 11 2021 10:35 AM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 11 2021 07:44 PM

Astros-White Sox postponed by rain. 2:07 PM ET Tuesday for Game Four.

Frayed Knot
Oct 11 2021 01:16 PM
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Both sides PH for their pitchers in the 5th inning of a scoreless game when each gets two on w/no outs.

Brewers wind up with a big fat nothingburger out of it while Joc Pederson PH's a 3R HR for the Atlantans.

Frayed Knot
Oct 11 2021 01:25 PM
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=G-Fafif post_id=79602 time=1633970120 user_id=55]
Astros-White Sox postponed by rain. 1:07 PM Tuesday for Game Four.



Since that was the one series that could have ended last night, the start time of the former & current Milwaukee teams was still fluid until the results of the (4 hour plus) CHI/HOU were known.

ATL/MIL was to be at 4:00 if the Astros swept but 1:00 if they didn't.



But the joke is on MLB because now the 4 PM slot is going to be empty anyway on account of the rain.









btw, it's stupid to leave both the players and fans up in the air like that. Pick a time and stick with it when you've got so little advance notice.

Johnny Lunchbucket
Oct 11 2021 02:27 PM
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Braves about to move on.

G-Fafif
Oct 11 2021 02:37 PM
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Those Braves are sneaky bastards.

ashie62
Oct 11 2021 04:50 PM
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No Chipper Jones same old Braves.

Johnny Lunchbucket
Oct 11 2021 05:15 PM
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I'm totally cool with the Braves, and they are a'ight with me.

kcmets
Oct 11 2021 06:12 PM
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Did you guys see Chipper totally muff the foul ball in the stands?



Fuck the Braves -- I'm generally an American League guy in the post-season anyways,

unless it's the youse-knowse-whoose

Frayed Knot
Oct 11 2021 06:33 PM
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So maybe (TBR) yanking Colin McQ after 18 pitches wasn't such a good idea.

Willets Point
Oct 11 2021 06:49 PM
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Not that it seems to be helping them in the final score, but the Rays have taken away around 10 hits from the Red Sox with great defensive plays in this series.

Frayed Knot
Oct 11 2021 07:48 PM
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So a new pitcher for TBR, Fleming, starts the bottom of the 7th, throws 13 pitches getting an out then giving up a single.

Out comes the pitching coach for a chat, a chat with the same pitcher who was just brought into the game two hitters ago.

So the freshly instructed pitcher promptly gives up a hit on the very next pitch.

Out comes the manager this time in order to make a pitching change.



So that's approx a six minute time frame -- mound conference, pitch, pitching change-- where ONE pitch was thrown.

Nobody can think that's a sustainable model.

Frayed Knot
Oct 11 2021 08:00 PM
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These managers keep looking for the reliever who Doesn't have it that night ... and they usually manage to find him.

Frayed Knot
Oct 11 2021 08:03 PM
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On the left coast they're scoreless after one, Alex Wood vs Max Scherzer

Frayed Knot
Oct 11 2021 08:07 PM
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Willets Point wrote:

Not that it seems to be helping them in the final score, but the Rays have taken away around 10 hits from the Red Sox with great defensive plays in this series.


Until right now.

That error could be a Yuge one.

Frayed Knot
Oct 11 2021 08:10 PM
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Or maybe not

Willets Point
Oct 11 2021 08:37 PM
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And a bad hop on a relay to first base ends up dooming the Rays. The Red Sox are the first team to advance to the final four.

bmfc1
Oct 11 2021 08:37 PM
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Ugh, I hope that we're not going to have Boston v Houston and Atlanta v LA.

Johnny Lunchbucket
Oct 11 2021 08:48 PM
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Congratz to the Sox. They earned it

kcmets
Oct 11 2021 08:59 PM
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=bmfc1 post_id=79621 time=1634006274 user_id=73]
Ugh, I hope that we're not going to have Boston v Houston and Atlanta v LA.



What match-ups would you find more pleasing?



I don't really care.

G-Fafif
Oct 11 2021 09:33 PM
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Giants-Red Sox would be the most picturesque ballpark matchup in modern times, maybe anytime.

bmfc1
Oct 11 2021 09:38 PM
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=kcmets post_id=79623 time=1634007546 user_id=53]
=bmfc1 post_id=79621 time=1634006274 user_id=73]
Ugh, I hope that we're not going to have Boston v Houston and Atlanta v LA.



What match-ups would you find more pleasing?



I don't really care.
Not those teams. I was pulling for Tampa.

Willets Point
Oct 11 2021 09:47 PM
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=G-Fafif post_id=79624 time=1634009637 user_id=55]
Giants-Red Sox would be the most picturesque ballpark matchup in modern times, maybe anytime.


The Giants could avenge their 1912 loss at Fenway Park when they were 2 outs from winning the World Series only to fall victim to the Snodgrass Muff.

Willets Point
Oct 11 2021 10:51 PM
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Giants on the precipice of the NLCS. MLB execs hoping to salvage at least half of their dream Dodgers-Yankees matchup are sweating.

Gwreck
Oct 11 2021 11:10 PM
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=G-Fafif post_id=79624 time=1634009637 user_id=55]
Giants-Red Sox would be the most picturesque ballpark matchup in modern times, maybe anytime.



Interesting premise! Presumably we disqualify Shea-Fenway due to objectivity concerns and other contenders are:



Modern:

2016: Wrigley-Jacobs Field

2012: San Francisco-Comerica Park

2007: Fenway-Coors Field



All-time:

1945: Tiger Stadium-Wrigley Field

Frayed Knot
Oct 12 2021 03:44 AM
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Willets Point wrote:

=G-Fafif post_id=79624 time=1634009637 user_id=55]
Giants-Red Sox would be the most picturesque ballpark matchup in modern times, maybe anytime.

The Giants could avenge their 1912 loss at Fenway Park when they were 2 outs from winning the World Series only to fall victim to the Snodgrass Muff.



They should get Snodgrass to throw out the ceremonial first pitch!

Fman99
Oct 12 2021 04:47 AM
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=kcmets post_id=79611 time=1633997542 user_id=53]
Did you guys see Chipper totally muff the foul ball in the stands?



Fuck the Braves -- I'm generally an American League guy in the post-season anyways,

unless it's the youse-knowse-whoose



Same here. The last team still playing in 2021 that I actively dislike. Besides the Dodgers, I mean. And the Astros.



OK so let me rephrase. The team still playing in 2021 for which I hold the greatest dislike.

G-Fafif
Oct 12 2021 11:56 AM
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Brandon Crawford did a nice Bud Harrelson with the leap and grab last night.

Frayed Knot
Oct 12 2021 01:02 PM
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Between the little I saw last night plus highlights this morning, the Giants threw a whole lotta leather at LAD

Frayed Knot
Oct 12 2021 02:17 PM
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If today's CHW/HOU started on time then there's something seriously wrong with this sport because they're more than two hours in and yet it's still just the bottom of the 4th.



5-1 'stros





Next update will be after the 6th inning, or at 9PM EDT ... whichever comes first.

Willets Point
Oct 12 2021 03:03 PM
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Listening to the HOU/CWS game on the Chicago radio broadcast. All the ad breaks seem to be for sports betting followed by PSAs for gambling disorders. Depressing.

Frayed Knot
Oct 12 2021 03:26 PM
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I don't know if it's required by law or merely good practices just in case something goes sideways on account of the gambling concerns that all these leagues are now in bed with, but all ads connected with gambling and even the crawls across the bottom of the screen on sports networks giving the latest odds, point spreads, or other fanta-crap stats, are routinely followed by gambling help info.









btw, they have in fact reached the 7tb inning in the south side of Chicago, a mere 3:20 after first pitch of a below average scoring game.

Lefty Specialist
Oct 12 2021 04:24 PM
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Looks like a Red Sox-Astros ALCS. Bleh. Both sides will bang garbage cans.

Frayed Knot
Oct 12 2021 04:33 PM
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Yeah, that game in Chicago still hasn't ended yet (about 4:20 as we type) but presumably it will end at some point and seeing as how it's 10-1 Houston the Astros get revenge on the 2005 WS sweep

even though it's now impossible for them to get the revenge in the actual World Series

Frayed Knot
Oct 12 2021 05:38 PM
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The [CROSSOUT]Atlanta[/CROSSOUT] Cobb County organist just played a rendition of Styx I'M SAILING AWAY when Avasail Garcia came to bat.



Earlier, following a leaping catch by SS Swanson, came a few bars of STAIRWAY TO HEAVEN

MFS62
Oct 12 2021 06:07 PM
Re: ILDST 2021: When Eight Become Four

Frayed Knot wrote:

The [CROSSOUT]Atlanta[/CROSSOUT] Cobb County organist just played a rendition of Styx I'M SAILING AWAY when Avasail Garcia came to bat.



Earlier, following a leaping catch by SS Swanson, came a few bars of STAIRWAY TO HEAVEN


Either that organist is very creative, or did a lot of drugs in the 70's and is still (mentally) trapped there.





Later

Johnny Lunchbucket
Oct 12 2021 06:59 PM
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Freddie 1, Hader 0

bmfc1
Oct 12 2021 07:10 PM
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Every Brewer should do to Devin Williams what he did to the wall. Williams would have been pitching in the 8th, not Hader, when FF hit the HR and that was Williams' job.

bmfc1
Oct 12 2021 07:12 PM
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The only good thing about this is that Cohen can call Stearns now. Same with Josh Byrnes if LAD loses tonight.

Frayed Knot
Oct 12 2021 07:45 PM
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Such a shame to see a good guy like Hader have to wear the goat horns.

G-Fafif
Oct 12 2021 07:56 PM
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The Braves are repellent, but blandly so when detached from their NL East context.

Fman99
Oct 12 2021 08:04 PM
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Ugh. Stupid Braves. Rooting now against the stupid Dodgers.

Bob Alpacadaca
Oct 12 2021 08:35 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:

I don't know if it's required by law or merely good practices just in case something goes sideways on account of the gambling concerns that all these leagues are now in bed with, but all ads connected with gambling and even the crawls across the bottom of the screen on sports networks giving the latest odds, point spreads, or other fanta-crap stats, are routinely followed by gambling help info.


It's going to get even worse. I've heard commentators -- not the hysterical ones -- say that in the not-so-distant future there will be iPod-like screens at seats in some sections of ballparks where you can bet throughout the game. Not just on the conclusion, but on things like "No runs will be scored in the first inning" type of things. That seems like a dystopian thing, but apparently that's expected to be the next big revenue stream.



What could go wrong?



Remember when Mays and Mantle were barred from the sport just for being greeters at casinos?

stevejrogers
Oct 12 2021 09:13 PM
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=Fman99 post_id=79700 time=1634090651 user_id=86]
Ugh. Stupid Braves. Rooting now against the stupid Dodgers.



Yeah, I'm pretty much with Mad Dog Chris Russo the rest of the way this October.

G-Fafif
Oct 12 2021 10:54 PM
Re: ILDST 2021: When Eight Become Four

SF 109-57 —

LA 109-58 1/2



Game Five to determine the final semi-finalist — lordy!

Johnny Lunchbucket
Oct 13 2021 05:15 AM
Re: ILDST 2021: When Eight Become Four

Wednesday: No Games Scheduled

Edgy MD
Oct 13 2021 01:19 PM
Re: ILDST 2021: When Eight Become Four

=stevejrogers post_id=79705 time=1634094798 user_id=57]
=Fman99 post_id=79700 time=1634090651 user_id=86]
Ugh. Stupid Braves. Rooting now against the stupid Dodgers.



Yeah, I'm pretty much with Mad Dog Chris Russo the rest of the way this October.


Good God. What does it smell like?

G-Fafif
Oct 14 2021 04:46 PM
Re: ILDST 2021: When Eight Become Four

This guy oughta know.


[tweet]https://twitter.com/thevinscully/status/1448752660438568966[/tweet]

G-Fafif
Oct 14 2021 04:52 PM
Re: ILDST 2021: When Eight Become Four

Never thought Vin Scully would have to answer for potential recency bias.


[tweet]https://twitter.com/thevinscully/status/1448753824940937218[/tweet]

G-Fafif
Oct 14 2021 05:06 PM
Re: ILDST 2021: When Eight Become Four

An opener as prelude to bringing in your 20-game winner. It's either good to be LA or whoa with the overthinking!


[tweet]https://twitter.com/billplunkettocr/status/1448768971159719936[/tweet]

ashie62
Oct 14 2021 05:41 PM
Re: ILDST 2021: When Eight Become Four

Knebel throws off the SF right handed bats for an inning or two.



I like it.

G-Fafif
Oct 14 2021 06:00 PM
Re: ILDST 2021: When Eight Become Four

The SFGs…



La Stella 2B

Ruf LF

Posey C

Crawford SS

Bryant CF

Yastrzemski LF

Flores 1B

Longoria 3B

Webb P



The LADs…



Betts RF

Seager SS

T. Turner 2B

Smith C

J. Turner 3B

Lux CF

Bellinger 1B

Taylor LF

Knebel P

Willets Point
Oct 14 2021 06:02 PM
Re: ILDST 2021: When Eight Become Four

Game 5 of LA vs SF starts at 9pm despite being the only game of the day? I guess they don't want a national audience.

Fman99
Oct 14 2021 08:06 PM
Re: ILDST 2021: When Eight Become Four

Yeah that's mad sucky. I'm near tuckered out in all of the 4th inning. Stupid curved planet surface.

ashie62
Oct 14 2021 09:50 PM
Re: ILDST 2021: When Eight Become Four

Great game. Tied in the 8th 1-1.



I find myself pulling for the Dodgers, but will root for either for the duration of the post season.

ashie62
Oct 14 2021 10:17 PM
Re: ILDST 2021: When Eight Become Four

Wow, Cody Bellinger plates the go ahead in the ninth.



Max Scherzer looms.

Willets Point
Oct 14 2021 10:18 PM
Re: ILDST 2021: When Eight Become Four

Feck. 9th inning lead for the MFDs.

ashie62
Oct 14 2021 10:19 PM
Re: ILDST 2021: When Eight Become Four

I'm good with either team.



I always loved Sandy Koufax so I have that.

Willets Point
Oct 14 2021 10:34 PM
Re: ILDST 2021: When Eight Become Four

Wilmer Flores with a chance for a dramatic finish.

Willets Point
Oct 14 2021 10:35 PM
Re: ILDST 2021: When Eight Become Four

Barf.

ashie62
Oct 14 2021 10:36 PM
Re: ILDST 2021: When Eight Become Four

DODGERS

ashie62
Oct 14 2021 10:37 PM
Re: ILDST 2021: When Eight Become Four

Tough call on the check swing. Wow.

ashie62
Oct 14 2021 10:42 PM
Re: ILDST 2021: When Eight Become Four

Wilmer got screwed but its' not like the Giants where challenging Max in any real way.

G-Fafif
Oct 14 2021 10:50 PM
Re: ILDST 2021: When Eight Become Four

Wilmer was boned, though it was hard to believe a reprieve would have gotten him anywhere (though that's when Wilmer's traditionally most dangerous).



Swell series. Braves' best chance will be Dodgers letting down after having won what felt like a championship series.

Fman99
Oct 15 2021 06:21 AM
Re: ILDST 2021: When Eight Become Four

Yeah just watched the replay. Wilmer got foogered on that call.

MFS62
Oct 15 2021 06:30 AM
Re: ILDST 2021: When Eight Become Four

FUCK



Later

kcmets
Oct 15 2021 06:50 AM
Re: ILDST 2021: When Eight Become Four

A teams playoff life should not end with such utter buffoonery.

G-Fafif
Oct 15 2021 09:15 AM
Re: ILDST 2021: When Eight Become Four

Good tick-tock by former Mets beat writer Andy McCullough, now of The Athletic, on how the Dodgers arrived at their Game Five pitching strategy. (Excerpt here and link below; The Athletic is a subscription operation.)


The Giants were, in the words of a rival evaluator, “an incredible situational baseball team.” The Dodgers had grown to respect that over the course of this season. San Francisco positioned its defenders with precision. Manager Gabe Kapler used his relievers effectively. And the lineup featured a variety of trapdoors that allowed Kapler to gain an extra scintilla of advantage. “They do an extremely good job of maximizing their leverage points,” Prior said.



After evening the series in Game 4, and again before flying to San Francisco on Thursday afternoon, the Dodgers wondered how to minimize those moments. Slater brought up the idea of using relievers to begin the game. He had supporting evidence. Knebel had opened games before. He had not pitched in Game 4. He pitched without a notable platoon split, so the Giants could not make an easy counter. His presence also might entice San Francisco to stack right-handed hitters later in the lineup, allowing a right-handed pitcher like Graterol a path to a clean inning. They could also keep Urías away from Giants catcher Buster Posey, who tagged him for a double in Game 2.



It looked good on paper. But perhaps you have heard: These games are not played on a Strat-O-Matic board, and the players are human. When the Dodgers officials decided on this plan, they agreed to hit the kill switch if any player raised an objection.



Roberts trusted Urías with the assignment. The Dodgers rode Urías' flexibility to a championship in 2020. Inside the Texas bubble, Urías was nominally a starting pitcher. Yet when Roberts needed someone to close the show in Game 7 of both the NLCS and the World Series, he turned to the lefty from Culiacán.



The on-field reputation of Urías had only swelled in the subsequent months. He became the only 20-game winner in the majors this season. On several occasions, he expressed gratitude about the Dodgers allowing him to flourish as a starter. Team officials needed his endorsement before moving forward.



“He earned the right to pitch in this game,” Prior said. “If he said, ‘No, I want it,' he was going to get it.”



On the flight to the Bay Area, Roberts and Prior approached Urías. The 25-year-old listened to the strategy. He agreed to go along with it. He understood the value of stealing outs atop the game and forcing the Giants to empty the bench. Knebel and Graterol were also keen on it.



The coaches canvassed a variety of clubhouse leaders. They checked with Scherzer and Clayton Kershaw and Walker Buehler. They met with Treinen and Jansen. They asked Mookie Betts, Justin Turner and Corey Seager. There was no dissent. “When they were on board, it made sense,” Prior said. “Everyone is in it to win it. Let's go.”



At that point, the Dodgers officials finalized their approach. The main drawback, they decided, was potential embarrassment. If Urías started the game and pitched poorly, no one would rip the front office. If the openers or Urías stumbled, though, Roberts and Friedman would get blamed for sabotaging a 106-win season by trying to get too cute.



“I think that what it does is it opens up for criticism,” Roberts said. “But I think that you can't do a job for fear of failure or potential criticism. I think that you have to do your job given whatever you feel is the best way to win the game.”


https://theathletic.com/2891046/2021/10/15/mccullough-inside-the-dodgers-decision-to-open-their-way-back-to-the-nlcs/

Frayed Knot
Oct 15 2021 10:10 AM
Re: ILDST 2021: When Eight Become Four

=G-Fafif post_id=79822 time=1634273445 user_id=55]
Wilmer was boned, though it was hard to believe a reprieve would have gotten him anywhere (though that's when Wilmer's traditionally most dangerous).



I mean, sure, he was in an 0-2 hole and was 0-fer-17 lifetime vs Scherzer ... but this is 'Walk-Off Wilmer' we're talking about.