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Flying Coach

G-Fafif Oct 07 2021 10:30 AM

The Mets are booking most of their 2021 coaching staff for travel far from Citi Field, per a tweeting Martino. Sources: Mets coaches Dave Jauss, Ricky Bones, Gary DiSarcina, Jeremy Accardo, Tony Tarasco and Brian Schneider free to seek other jobs. Hitting coaches reassigned to minors. Pitching coach Jeremy Hefner expected to remain in the organization. Mets hold a contract option on him. Hefner role and exact future still being discussed.

Edgy MD Oct 07 2021 10:35 AM Re: Flying Coach

Wow. It's going to be busy offseason.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 07 2021 10:49 AM Re: Flying Coach

It doesn't mention Quattlebottom specifically, but apparently he won't be the hitting instructor anymore but will stay in the organization. Whatever.

MFS62 Oct 07 2021 10:50 AM Re: Flying Coach

So, they want to teach the kids in the minors that same hitting approach that wasn't successful in the majors this year? I always thought good results are rewarded. Doesn't make sense. Later

Benjamin Grimm Oct 07 2021 10:52 AM Re: Flying Coach

Maybe he'll be working in the ticket booth at Binghamton.

Willets Point Oct 07 2021 12:38 PM Re: Flying Coach

Who will pitch to Alonso in the HR Derby?

Frayed Knot Oct 07 2021 01:23 PM Re: Flying Coach

Kind of rules out the Brian Schneider for next manager prediction.

Edgy MD Oct 07 2021 01:27 PM Re: Flying Coach

SAYS YOU!

Lefty Specialist Oct 07 2021 01:39 PM Re: Flying Coach

Clearing the decks. Now get a POBO.

seawolf17 Oct 07 2021 02:03 PM Re: Flying Coach

This team hasn't won dick in years. Clear 'em out and start over. (Although I'm sad to see Bones go, who was almost Aljacksonian in his longevity.)

Benjamin Grimm Oct 07 2021 02:08 PM Re: Flying Coach

I remember back in my bird-watching days, how thrilled I was to finally spot a tweeting martino.

Edgy MD Oct 07 2021 03:30 PM Re: Flying Coach

I remember in my competitive, randy young days, how thrilled I was to win some dick.

Edgy MD Oct 07 2021 05:01 PM Re: Flying Coach

Notable that, despite what has to be the most disastrous year health-wise in team history, there was no cultural bloodlust for the training staff as there has been in injury-plagued years past. Is this just a question of doing a better job of managing expectations or has blaming the trainers just gone out of vogue?

Ceetar Oct 07 2021 06:53 PM Re: Flying Coach

nobody's bothered to learn the new trainer's name is all.

smg58 Oct 08 2021 12:58 PM Re: Flying Coach

I don't see how Hefner stays. I'm fairly certain that, before the injury, he would have perfectly happy with being judged on his handling of DeGrom by the results.

G-Fafif Oct 26 2021 10:05 AM Re: Flying Coach

No matter who manages or POBOs, Jeremy Hefner will return as pitching coach (the Mets have announced).

kcmets Oct 26 2021 11:15 AM Re: Flying Coach

I imagine deGrom and perhaps others have at least some s(w)ay in that.

Ceetar Oct 26 2021 11:26 AM Re: Flying Coach

just let deGrom player/manage then.

smg58 Oct 26 2021 11:50 AM Re: Flying Coach

Hefner was the guy who most needed to go.

kcmets Oct 26 2021 11:54 AM Re: Flying Coach

=Ceetar post_id=80217 time=1635269179 user_id=102]just let deGrom player/manage then.

I think he probably has enough on his plate.



Maybe Plan C is to do everything from within and they're just getting started

and will announce stuff little by little.



I'm never wrong sometimes (about the Mets, in particular)...

kcmets Oct 26 2021 11:57 AM Re: Flying Coach

They may also have decided on a GM or po'boy already and he or she is on board with Hefner and waiting until after World Series to make big splash announcements. That used to be a thing in MLB, unless it was the Yankees stealing back pages of course.

Frayed Knot Oct 26 2021 12:15 PM Re: Flying Coach

I thought the traveling secretary was the flying coach?

Edgy MD Oct 26 2021 12:27 PM Re: Flying Coach

I'm not sure why Hefner most needed to go, but when they told everybody they were free to go job-huntin' except Hef, it more than foreshadowed his retention.

Ceetar Oct 26 2021 01:12 PM Re: Flying Coach

I don't know if this was more Rojas or something about Hefner, but the Mets starters were badly under-used in terms of pitch counts and they're gonna have to get A LOT more high-quality relievers if they intend to keep under-utilizing the starters.

Edgy MD Oct 26 2021 01:24 PM Re: Flying Coach

The assumption I've worked from is that it was neither Hefner nor Rojas, but organizational policy. But I'd certainly put the manager ahead of the pitching coach in responsibility for the call when you're pulling a guy with less than 80 pitches expended. I never heard Hefner say anything about ups and downs.

Ceetar Oct 26 2021 01:40 PM Re: Flying Coach

'organization policy'? which GM? the first, the third? the interim guy? Somebody's personal assistant? maybe they decrypted Cohen' blockchain nonsense and it said 80 so they went with it.

Edgy MD Oct 26 2021 02:10 PM Re: Flying Coach

I don't know.

Lefty Specialist Oct 26 2021 02:39 PM Re: Flying Coach

Somebody win the Series in 4 so we can get to the important stuff.

MFS62 Oct 26 2021 03:59 PM Re: Flying Coach

Lefty Specialist wrote: Somebody win the Series in 4 so we can get to the important stuff. That "important stuff" better happen quickly, because a strike looms on the horizon (Dec 2), when all baseball stuff will cease. Later

Ceetar Oct 26 2021 09:30 PM Re: Flying Coach

Lefty Specialist wrote: Somebody win the Series in 4 so we can get to the important stuff. arguably we want it to go 7 so the Mets have more time to actually hire someone to do all the things they need to do.

kcmets Oct 27 2021 08:55 AM Re: Flying Coach

Things are slow, so I'll bite... how does a longer series give the Mets more time?

Ceetar Oct 27 2021 10:08 AM Re: Flying Coach

The Mets have a window of exclusivity with pending free agents that's X number of days after the end of the World Series. (true of everybody) They don't have to make qualifying offers, etc, until then. It gives the Mets more time to have someone in place that would, presumably, have input into those decisions.

kcmets Oct 27 2021 10:27 AM Re: Flying Coach

If no one is going to do anything until after the series then it doesn't matter when it ends. It's 3-4 days, so nothing to quibble-and-tits over I guess.

bmfc1 Nov 02 2021 11:04 AM Re: Flying Coach

Gary DiSarcina will be the 3B coach of the Nationals next season. He was good at positioning the IFers but not the best at sending runners. [TWEET]https://twitter.com/MetsFanMania/status/1455533368955875337[/TWEET]

bmfc1 Nov 03 2021 10:04 AM Re: Flying Coach

Add another ex-Met to the WSH coaching staff as Ricky Bones leaves the Mets bullpen to become the bullpen coach of WSH. Henry Blanco stays with the organization in another capacity TBD.

G-Fafif Nov 05 2021 04:31 PM Re: Flying Coach

Chili Davis has had it with you people. ”That organization needs a big turnaround, they need to clean house,” Davis said. “Some of the people that have been there so long during those dismal years, they need to bring some fresh faces and baseball people in there. To be honest I don't think Zack Scott was a baseball person. He was the head of analytics in Boston. He was an analytical guy. That's where he belonged, in analytics.” Tongue unheld, Chili let's Mike Puma knows how he really feels. https://nypost.com/2021/11/05/chili-davis-goes-scorched-earth-on-broken-mets/

Edgy MD Nov 05 2021 08:05 PM Re: Flying Coach

Chill, Chili. Each of us is a former something or other.

smg58 Nov 06 2021 02:57 PM Re: Flying Coach

I'd have sour grapes too. A number of players thrived under Davis' watch the last two seasons, but 24 games was still enough to justify firing him. If anything, it set the struggling hitters back even further. And Scott did come across more like a deer in the headlights than a competent GM, so it's not like Davis was making a big stretch there.