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Fezbook and Beyond

Edgy MD Oct 04 2021 03:07 PM

Amazing to see a virtually all-day outage on the social network today, with the corporation already reeling from a 60 Minutes exposé led by a former employee. Stock is diving, and that's in a market that's already backsliding in reaction to the debt ceiling showdown. It's amazing to see what it's done to global culture in such a short period, resetting our whole understanding of epistemology. As a frequent user, I find myself shocked to admit that it's done far more damage than Twitter, which I hate. I'd expect something huge to be coming at them — an AT&T-type breakup or comprehensive regulatory standards or legislation — if I had any confidence that our government institutions had any will to do any such thing when confronting the rising oligarchy. But something's coming. [YOUTUBE]qFkVG477zyc[/YOUTUBE]

kcmets Oct 04 2021 03:30 PM Re: Fezbook and Beyond

Hope it comes out quickly they pulled the plug and it's not technical difficulties. Dumbed down: The Feds are coming, shred everything in those three filing cabinets.

MFS62 Oct 04 2021 03:39 PM Re: Fezbook and Beyond

Earlier today I was immediately getting the "we can't find it" (or whatever) message. Now it looks like it is trying to connect, but I'm getting the spinning arrow, meaning it is trying, but can't get through - probably because of volume. News reports say they shut down their own site and the stock has dropped like a rock because of that controversial report on 60 minutes that Edgy mentioned. The shut down was self-inflicted, not a technical problem. But it seems like the re-start is experiencing technical difficulties. Later

Edgy MD Oct 04 2021 03:45 PM Re: Fezbook and Beyond

Which news reports are those? The idea that (1) their other platforms — Instagram and WhatsApp? — are also down; (2) their internal network is down; (3) it's lasted all day; and (4) they haven't even gotten a static "We're working on some problems" splash page up ... tells me this is a major hostile attack. When many of the top trafficked sites went offline in June, that lasted less than an hour, I think. This is big. If it's internal, I'd certainly be surprised if it was ordered from on high and it isn't be public knowledge by now. It would, however, fit with the portrayal of Zuckerberg as a Bond villain. More than a few claims have said it's not down but destroyed. I'll believe that when I see it, because I feel certain that top tech companies all have redundant backup server farms on the moons of Saturn or someplace. But hey, what's a little online misinformation among friends? So sure, it's gone.

Edgy MD Oct 04 2021 04:03 PM Re: Fezbook and Beyond

And ... she's back.

Ceetar Oct 04 2021 04:26 PM Re: Fezbook and Beyond

These things happen all the time, it's just not as visible. Half the internet is held together by chewing gum and the other half is about to fail but no one's noticed yet.

MFS62 Oct 04 2021 05:15 PM Re: Fezbook and Beyond

Edgy MD wrote: Which news reports are those? Early in the day, several of the talking heads on MSNBC suggested that Facebook shut down their own site as a result of the 60 Minutes show. Then I went to work so I didn't follow subsequent reports. Since then, with the other platforms also going down, it seems more and more likely to be a technical problem. Having managed an international network, I'd guess the show, and the drop in the stock price, caused increased, unexpected volume and it overloaded, then crashed, a key access point. We'll find out. Later

Willets Point Oct 04 2021 05:29 PM Re: Fezbook and Beyond

Ah, so that explains it! I thought there was a problem with my phone because I kept getting "Can't connect to the internet" when trying to open Instagram.

Edgy MD Oct 04 2021 08:33 PM Re: Fezbook and Beyond

Bloomberg reporting that Zucky lost $6 billion over the course of the outage. Knocked him from the fourth richiest rich person in the world all the way down to fifth.

Ceetar Oct 04 2021 09:52 PM Re: Fezbook and Beyond

Man, is there a _less_ interesting way to cover the story than Zuckerberg's fluctuating net worth? The tweets I saw basically tied it to some fairly specific hosting/routing/network type issues. And the people on site where it was happening with direct access to the machines weren't the ones with the expertise to fix it, etc etc. Honestly it surprises me the site doesn't implode on itself every day.

Edgy MD Oct 04 2021 10:21 PM Re: Fezbook and Beyond

Yes, there is a less interesting way to cover the story.

kcmets Oct 05 2021 07:42 AM Re: Fezbook and Beyond

=Ceetar post_id=79252 time=1633386410 user_id=102] These things happen all the time, it's just not as visible.

Well, if every thirteen years is all the time, then yeah.

Ceetar Oct 05 2021 08:06 AM Re: Fezbook and Beyond

=kcmets post_id=79281 time=1633441323 user_id=53] =Ceetar post_id=79252 time=1633386410 user_id=102] These things happen all the time, it's just not as visible.

Well, if every thirteen years is all the time, then yeah.


thirteen years? what? I'm referring to the internet as a whole.

kcmets Oct 05 2021 08:33 AM Re: Fezbook and Beyond

I know, I'm just saying it was fb's worst outage since 2008 and it's not all the time. Also, six hour outages that affect tens of millions of people don't happen all the time either for that matter.