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Mets To The Max With Max To The Mets

bmfc1 Nov 29 2021 10:35 AM

Welcome, Max Scherzer!!! Number 30, 34 (he can't have 31 or 37)? https://www.fangraphs.com/players/max-scherzer/3137/stats?position=P https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Scherzer And welcome Erica! https://twitter.com/emaysway https://www.instagram.com/emaysway/ Start #1, game 2, April 2, home v WSH Start #2, game 6, April 7, WSH's open opener (assuming that the Mets skip the 5th starter in the first week of the season). [TWEET]https://twitter.com/martinonyc/status/1465375754070499337[/TWEET]

Fman99 Nov 29 2021 10:45 AM Re: Mets To The Max With Max To The Mets

And welcome Erica! https://twitter.com/emaysway https://www.instagram.com/emaysway/ Rumor is she has one pink eye and one brown eye ;)

G-Fafif Nov 29 2021 10:45 AM Re: Mets To The Max With Max To The Mets

DeGrom and Scherz' And the rest of the week the bullpen stirs

metsmarathon Nov 29 2021 10:57 AM Re: Mets To The Max With Max To The Mets

damn, i'm pretty happy about this. which means... well... it's the mets so. but anyway, i'm pretty happy about this!

Edgy MD Nov 29 2021 11:29 AM Re: Mets To The Max With Max To The Mets

Positively Randy Johnsonian (or Carlos Beltranian) with the value he added after being dealt at the deadline in his walk year.

Frayed Knot Nov 29 2021 11:31 AM Re: Mets To The Max With Max To The Mets

I can live with three years. There will be a decline, but 'Ground Zero' for him is high enough that, barring any shoulder-shredding injuries that render him unusable (see: Santana, Johan), his reduced self should still be purdy darn good.

Edgy MD Nov 29 2021 11:35 AM Re: Mets To The Max With Max To The Mets

At that total comes to $13,541.67. Per pitch. Assuming he makes 32 starts a season and averages 100 pitches per game.

Lefty Specialist Nov 29 2021 12:37 PM Re: Mets To The Max With Max To The Mets

With the pickups of Canha, Escobar, Marte and now Scherzer, everybody talks about that they're 'good clubhouse guys'. The comment was specifically made that Scherzer wouldn't have put up with the 'thumbs down' fiasco last year. So it'll be interesting to see how that plays out.

Ceetar Nov 29 2021 01:30 PM Re: Mets To The Max With Max To The Mets

the 'good clubhouse' stuff is mostly nonsense. People don't really know. Just like there was plenty of talk that Max didn't want to come to NY, that he wanted to pitch on the west coast, etc. It's all just people guessing for content. Anyhow, here's Max from the Citi Field ASG parade. Or there would be, if this garbage forum software let you upload pictures bigger than the average digital camera from 2002. It's on my Twitter if you want it.

Willets Point Nov 29 2021 01:46 PM Re: Mets To The Max With Max To The Mets

You can always just embed the tweet. [TWEET]https://twitter.com/Ceetar/status/1465338659100631044[/TWEET]

A Boy Named Seo Nov 29 2021 01:51 PM Re: Mets To The Max With Max To The Mets

Max has a deranged winning-over-everything persona that is hopefully less raccoon red-assery and more like dudes just afraid of putting in less than he does. I'm sure we'll see a bit of a decline, but I'm really stoked on his acquisition.

Frayed Knot Nov 29 2021 02:05 PM Re: Mets To The Max With Max To The Mets

Lefty Specialist wrote: With the pickups of Canha, Escobar, Marte and now Scherzer, everybody talks about that they're 'good clubhouse guys'. The comment was specifically made that Scherzer wouldn't have put up with the 'thumbs down' fiasco last year. So it'll be interesting to see how that plays out. It's often said that the every-fifth-day guys can't really be club leaders but there are exceptions and his rep is that he's been one of them. An intense SOB while on the mound, he obviously tones it down on his off days but only to a degree and it tends to rub off on the other pitchers but also on the rest of the cast. Nobody is a miracle worker in this sort of stuff but it's better to be at least part of the solution rather than one adding to whatever problems crop up.

kcmets Nov 29 2021 02:08 PM Re: Mets To The Max With Max To The Mets

Willets Point wrote: You can always just embed the tweet. Those buttons didn't just grow on trees, calling them garbage is a tad insulting.

Ceetar Nov 29 2021 02:10 PM Re: Mets To The Max With Max To The Mets

yaeh, but I was too annoyed to go fetch my tweet, and I didn't always tweet what I wanted earlier. But I guess the lesson is: Tweet stuff first.

Willets Point Nov 29 2021 02:12 PM Re: Mets To The Max With Max To The Mets

I just thought was a good workaround for the forum's limitations.

Johnny Lunchbucket Nov 29 2021 02:51 PM Re: Mets To The Max With Max To The Mets

Willets Point wrote: You can always just embed the tweet. [TWEET]https://twitter.com/Ceetar/status/1465338659100631044[/TWEET] I was at this parade too. That's where I noticed his eyes even from a distance were weird and spooky

Marshmallowmilkshake Nov 29 2021 02:51 PM Re: Mets To The Max With Max To The Mets

https://www.gannett-cdn.com/media/USATODAY/USATODAY/2013/07/15/1373942025000-USP-MLB-All-Star-Game-American-League-Practice-max-1307160842_3_4.jpg>

Marshmallowmilkshake Nov 29 2021 02:56 PM Re: Mets To The Max With Max To The Mets

https://www.sportscasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/SC-Max-Scherzer-college-pitching-at-Mizzou-GettyImages-71112923.jpg> Has something in common with David Cone.

Chad ochoseis Nov 29 2021 03:02 PM Re: Mets To The Max With Max To The Mets

Is he the first pitcher to become a Met after no-hitting the Mets? I think so.

ashie62 Nov 29 2021 03:08 PM Re: Mets To The Max With Max To The Mets

What not to like or love? That they brought in four guys who are 32 or older speaks to a win now roster build. On Max's worst day he is likely better than the Mickey Lolich the Mets got late in his career.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 29 2021 04:24 PM Re: Mets To The Max With Max To The Mets

So who gets the Opening Day start if everybody's healthy: deGrom or Scherzer? All things equal, I guess deGrom. He has seniority.

Edgy MD Nov 29 2021 04:26 PM Re: Mets To The Max With Max To The Mets

=ashie62 post_id=82030 time=1638223738 user_id=90]On Max's worst day he is likely better than the Mickey Lolich the Mets got late in his career.

And that Mickey Lolich wasn't particularly bad.

TransMonk Nov 29 2021 04:53 PM Re: Mets To The Max With Max To The Mets

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=82050 time=1638228257 user_id=68] So who gets the Opening Day start if everybody's healthy: deGrom or Scherzer? All things equal, I guess deGrom. He has seniority.

I love this problem.

kcmets Nov 29 2021 05:31 PM Re: Mets To The Max With Max To The Mets Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 29 2021 07:25 PM

OE: avi wuz here, hung out to dry

Marshmallowmilkshake Nov 29 2021 05:54 PM Re: Mets To The Max With Max To The Mets

Interesting point on the Jomboy podcast. They think Boras/Scherzer did spend the night trying to get the Westies to bite. They also said that as a union leader, Max wasn't in a position to take a lower offer just to be out west, especially when the Mets were willing to break records.

Ceetar Nov 29 2021 07:31 PM Re: Mets To The Max With Max To The Mets

=Marshmallowmilkshake post_id=82071 time=1638233648 user_id=119] Interesting point on the Jomboy podcast. They think Boras/Scherzer did spend the night trying to get the Westies to bite. They also said that as a union leader, Max wasn't in a position to take a lower offer just to be out west, especially when the Mets were willing to break records.

That's nonsense, but it's Jomboy so what do you expect. Obviously they relayed the Mets offer to the other suitors, that's just ..what you do? (Don't tell Cohen re: Matz though) People so desperate to make it seem like they KNOW what Scherzer (or any player) is thinking better than they do, when it's almost universally about the better offer.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 29 2021 07:55 PM Re: Mets To The Max With Max To The Mets

=Ceetar post_id=82087 time=1638239479 user_id=102] =Marshmallowmilkshake post_id=82071 time=1638233648 user_id=119] Interesting point on the Jomboy podcast. They think Boras/Scherzer did spend the night trying to get the Westies to bite. They also said that as a union leader, Max wasn't in a position to take a lower offer just to be out west, especially when the Mets were willing to break records.

That's nonsense, but it's Jomboy so what do you expect. Obviously they relayed the Mets offer to the other suitors, that's just ..what you do? (Don't tell Cohen re: Matz though) People so desperate to make it seem like they KNOW what Scherzer (or any player) is thinking better than they do, when it's almost universally about the better offer.


Yeah, I also thought that was ridiculous nonsense as soon as I read it, but I didn't feel like saying so. Bad take. Yeah sure. Scherzer's not allowed to play for the Dodgers even though he has a place to live out there and no matter how much he loves LA so long as the Mets offer him three pennies more than the Dodgers did. /rollseyes



Don't know who Jomboy is. Never heard of him.



I agree with the Boras part, though, about shopping around the Mets offer. Don't know if that's true, but that's Boras's job: to get his client the best offer. Doesn't make him a bad person. That's what his clients want him to do and also, to take the heat for all the pollyanna takes. Because players are greedy when they seek more money. But the owners, all the few dozen of them, are allowed to control like 25% of the entire USA money supply. That part's OK. /rollseyes again.

Johnny Lunchbucket Nov 30 2021 06:16 AM Re: Mets To The Max With Max To The Mets

Schererville is a big union guy so probably felt as though he was obligated to put the aav above his working address moreso than other guys. I think the same dynamic played out with Glavine to the Mets

roger_that Nov 30 2021 07:51 AM Re: Mets To The Max With Max To The Mets

Can't wait to hear Mex on "Mets to the Max with Max to the Mets." Also on Mex's thoughts on Matz, of course, leaving the Mets while acquiring Max,

batmagadanleadoff Nov 30 2021 10:35 PM Re: Mets To The Max With Max To The Mets

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=82088 time=1638240910 user_id=68] =Ceetar post_id=82087 time=1638239479 user_id=102] =Marshmallowmilkshake post_id=82071 time=1638233648 user_id=119] Interesting point on the Jomboy podcast. They think Boras/Scherzer did spend the night trying to get the Westies to bite. They also said that as a union leader, Max wasn't in a position to take a lower offer just to be out west, especially when the Mets were willing to break records.

That's nonsense, but it's Jomboy so what do you expect. Obviously they relayed the Mets offer to the other suitors, that's just ..what you do? (Don't tell Cohen re: Matz though) People so desperate to make it seem like they KNOW what Scherzer (or any player) is thinking better than they do, when it's almost universally about the better offer.


Yeah, I also thought that was ridiculous nonsense as soon as I read it, but I didn't feel like saying so. Bad take. Yeah sure. Scherzer's not allowed to play for the Dodgers even though he has a place to live out there and no matter how much he loves LA so long as the Mets offer him three pennies more than the Dodgers did. /rollseyes



Don't know who Jomboy is. Never heard of him.



I agree with the Boras part, though, about shopping around the Mets offer. Don't know if that's true, but that's Boras's job: to get his client the best offer. Doesn't make him a bad person. That's what his clients want him to do and also, to take the heat for all the pollyanna takes. Because players are greedy when they seek more money. But the owners, all the few dozen of them, are allowed to control like 25% of the entire USA money supply. That part's OK. /rollseyes again.




Another reason why it's absolutely ridiculous that Scherzer was supposedly obligated to accept the Mets record setting offer given Scherzer's standing in the player's union is that the new record setting standard for player salaries was set as soon as the Mets extended their ultimate offer to Scherzer, whether or not Scherzer accepted it.

Marshmallowmilkshake Dec 01 2021 07:53 AM Re: Mets To The Max With Max To The Mets

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: Schererville is a big union guy so probably felt as though he was obligated to put the aav above his working address more so than other guys. I think the same dynamic played out with Glavine to the Mets Tim Britton, the Mets beat writer for the Athletic, and Ted Berg also noted the union leadership connection and obligation. But they also speculated that the West Coast preference was directed more at last season than the upcoming one. The Nationals didn't want to trade him within the division, they said, and Scherzer wanted to compete for a championship and thought the West Coast teams gave him the best chance to do that.

Benjamin Grimm Dec 01 2021 10:23 AM Re: Mets To The Max With Max To The Mets

I just got an e-mail from the Mets saying that the Max Scherzer press conference will be at 1 p.m.

Benjamin Grimm Dec 01 2021 11:04 AM Re: Mets To The Max With Max To The Mets

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A Boy Named Seo Dec 01 2021 11:15 AM Re: Mets To The Max With Max To The Mets

Max called JdG ahead of signing and said he got a state of where Jake's at. Seems real excited to duo with him. Says since numbers 31 and 37 are not available, he's not sure what number he's gonna take. This thing's on the MLB app and MLBTV if you still wanna.

Benjamin Grimm Dec 01 2021 11:22 AM Re: Mets To The Max With Max To The Mets

I suggest that he wear number 35.

A Boy Named Seo Dec 01 2021 11:30 AM Re: Mets To The Max With Max To The Mets

I think he should switch em and become 73.

Benjamin Grimm Dec 01 2021 11:46 AM Re: Mets To The Max With Max To The Mets

Another Zoom call this evening at 6 to introduce "additional players"

A Boy Named Seo Dec 01 2021 11:56 AM Re: Mets To The Max With Max To The Mets

Finally the Antonio Santos presser.

Edgy MD Dec 01 2021 12:33 PM Re: Mets To The Max With Max To The Mets

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I suggest that he wear number 35. I think he should wear 34, grow his hair out, and dye it blond.

batmagadanleadoff Dec 01 2021 12:37 PM Re: Mets To The Max With Max To The Mets

3137. With a comma.

Frayed Knot Dec 01 2021 12:44 PM Re: Mets To The Max With Max To The Mets

3137. With a comma. 3137, Nah, that looks shit!l

MFS62 Dec 01 2021 01:04 PM Re: Mets To The Max With Max To The Mets

I hope they don't baby his arm with a pitch count. He feels it gave him a dead arm. https://thespun.com/more/top-stories/max-scherzer-has-a-theory-on-why-he-got-dead-arm?fbclid=IwAR3EqGwjWB3RU4bo6gGHs2rjxIQuBiqvyeD3GWG-qud-9dz-ZtTZOyP5tzM He sounds like Carlton-era pitchers who felt you kept your arm strong by using it. Later

Johnny Lunchbucket Dec 01 2021 01:15 PM Re: Mets To The Max With Max To The Mets

32 it will be, experts are predicting. Comes off as an urbane jock.