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Memories of Marcus Stroman

Ceetar Dec 01 2021 05:13 PM

This one hurts. My Scherzer buzz is gone, and now I'm hungover on Marcus to the Cubs (reported first by Marcus Stroman) Stroman was a lot of fun, and hell, he was one of the more reliable and sturdy pitchers the Mets have. Now we're bumping up more injury guys and hoping.

Johnny Lunchbucket Dec 01 2021 05:16 PM Re: Memories of Marcus Stroman

To me he seemed just too driven by real and imaginary threats to rely on all that much. That said he had a lot of ability without all that and was fun to watch. Took it upon himself to declare #7 sacred and half the fan base and the team believed him. Sat out a year we could have used him.

kcmets Dec 01 2021 05:22 PM Re: Memories of Marcus Stroman

Kinda sucks, not surprised, at least he's not a Phillie or Brave.

G-Fafif Dec 01 2021 05:37 PM Re: Memories of Marcus Stroman

Gave the Mets innings and ground balls. Both were appreciated. Certainly didn't mind calling attention to himself.

Benjamin Grimm Dec 01 2021 06:20 PM Re: Memories of Marcus Stroman

I guess Max Scherzer is a fine replacement for Marcus Stroman. (They even have the same initials!) But each potential starter that slips away from the Mets is a lost opportunity. I don't have much faith in the current Mets rotation. They need a lot more depth and I hope they can find a way to get it.

Edgy MD Dec 01 2021 06:25 PM Re: Memories of Marcus Stroman

In a year of injuries and breakdowns, he was one Met who took it wire to wire. #notnothin

Fman99 Dec 01 2021 06:44 PM Re: Memories of Marcus Stroman

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

bmfc1 Dec 01 2021 06:49 PM Re: Memories of Marcus Stroman

I loved watching him pitch. I loved watching him field. One of my favorites and I will miss him.

batmagadanleadoff Dec 01 2021 07:04 PM Re: Memories of Marcus Stroman

Looks like the Mets prefer Carrasco and Walker over Stroman. Also, is there gonna be a lefty starter?

batmagadanleadoff Dec 01 2021 07:05 PM Re: Memories of Marcus Stroman

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=82342 time=1638410681 user_id=68] Looks like the Mets prefer Carrasco and Walker over Stroman. Also, is there gonna be a lefty starter?

I guess Peterson. Peterson?

The Hot Corner Dec 01 2021 07:20 PM Re: Memories of Marcus Stroman

I really wanted the Mets to make an attempt to retain Stroman. He was the Mets best and most reliable pitcher last season. DeGrom was outstanding, but he wasn't reliable or dependable. Stroman has some hot dog in him, but he was fun to watch. I wish him well with the Cubs, just not when facing the Mets.

Marshmallowmilkshake Dec 01 2021 07:30 PM Re: Memories of Marcus Stroman

He signed for fewer years and less money than I expected.

The Hot Corner Dec 01 2021 07:40 PM Re: Memories of Marcus Stroman

3 years / $71 Mil. - Would have slotted perfectly in the 3rd spot in the rotation. The Mets are supposedly still targeting pitching (well, once the CBA is settled). It will be interesting to see who they get and the terms of the deal compared to Stroman's deal with the Cubs.

smg58 Dec 02 2021 06:42 AM Re: Memories of Marcus Stroman

I still think another starter should be their top priority. I liked Stroman a lot and wanted him back. They had the opportunity to extend him on their terms last offseason once he signed the QO, and apparently chose not to.

seawolf17 Dec 02 2021 06:47 AM Re: Memories of Marcus Stroman

Long Island guy, outspoken, smart, helluva pitcher. Really enjoyed rooting for him.

Benjamin Grimm Dec 02 2021 07:00 AM Re: Memories of Marcus Stroman

Anthony DiComo and Jim Duquette were talking about Stroman on Mets Hot Stove. Implied that he may have been a bad influence in the clubhouse and said that Scherzer is an upgrade over Stroman. I don't know about the bad influence thing, but Scherzer/Stroman isn't an either/or, so that spin doesn't make any sense at all.

Edgy MD Dec 02 2021 08:05 AM Re: Memories of Marcus Stroman

There certainly seemed to be something mercurial about the guy. Hard to tell if it was an issue. I see where it might be. What a weird offseason. Instead of weeks of drama, we just wake up one morning and a guy has a new uniform.

metsmarathon Dec 02 2021 08:19 AM Re: Memories of Marcus Stroman

damn, i totally woudla brought him back for that money. i would think the mets would have too. dunno. he was exciting and fun to watch. i'll miss him. he was very out front with racial equality issues and i liked that.

duan Dec 02 2021 09:23 AM Re: Memories of Marcus Stroman

I did like his fielding a lot. I also liked that he was atypical. He could have used staying off twitter enough to not like posts calling people racial slurs.

Ceetar Dec 02 2021 10:01 AM Re: Memories of Marcus Stroman

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Anthony DiComo and Jim Duquette were talking about Stroman on Mets Hot Stove. Implied that he may have been a bad influence in the clubhouse and said that Scherzer is an upgrade over Stroman. I don't know about the bad influence thing, but Scherzer/Stroman isn't an either/or, so that spin doesn't make any sense at all. It's the "subtly" racist stuff like this that makes me not care that Stroman gest a little uppity on Twitter. Almost no one says DiComo or Healey should "be quieter on Twitter"

seawolf17 Dec 02 2021 11:39 AM Re: Memories of Marcus Stroman

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Anthony DiComo and Jim Duquette were talking about Stroman on Mets Hot Stove. Implied that he may have been a bad influence in the clubhouse and said that Scherzer is an upgrade over Stroman. I don't know about the bad influence thing, but Scherzer/Stroman isn't an either/or, so that spin doesn't make any sense at all. Yeah, this is bordering on some racist bullshit right here. Upgrade on the field? Absolutely. But you don't know shit about the clubhouse, Middle Aged White Guys. Sit this one out.

Lefty Specialist Dec 02 2021 11:49 AM Re: Memories of Marcus Stroman

He was a bit of a jerk, but he took the ball and gave it his all. He would have been the perfect final piece to the rotation.

Edgy MD Dec 02 2021 11:50 AM Re: Memories of Marcus Stroman

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Anthony DiComo and Jim Duquette were talking about Stroman on Mets Hot Stove. Implied that he may have been a bad influence in the clubhouse and said that Scherzer is an upgrade over Stroman. I don't know about the bad influence thing, but Scherzer/Stroman isn't an either/or, so that spin doesn't make any sense at all. Yeah, this is bordering on some racist bullshit right here. Upgrade on the field? Absolutely. But you don't know shit about the clubhouse, Middle Aged White Guys. Sit this one out. They know more about it than I do. I'm certain of that.

batmagadanleadoff Dec 02 2021 11:57 AM Re: Memories of Marcus Stroman

Edgy MD wrote: Benjamin Grimm wrote: Anthony DiComo and Jim Duquette were talking about Stroman on Mets Hot Stove. Implied that he may have been a bad influence in the clubhouse and said that Scherzer is an upgrade over Stroman. I don't know about the bad influence thing, but Scherzer/Stroman isn't an either/or, so that spin doesn't make any sense at all. Yeah, this is bordering on some racist bullshit right here. Upgrade on the field? Absolutely. But you don't know shit about the clubhouse, Middle Aged White Guys. Sit this one out. They know more about it than I do. I'm certain of that. That's what I was thinking. We have no idea what went on in that clubhouse with Stroman, especially since Covid. Me, I don't know, but if it turns out that Stroman was a difficult and polarizing asshole or something like that, I won't be so surprised. Not that I'm hoping for, or even expecting any revelation like that.

Ceetar Dec 02 2021 01:26 PM Re: Memories of Marcus Stroman

spoiler alert: media wasn't in the clubhouse this year. Which is why they threw such a hissy fit when McNeil and Lindor refused to dish dirt to them. You know which other clubhouse they weren't in? the Nationals. or the Dodgers. Maybe they got super nuanced about it, I'm only going off Grimm's recap of Mets Hot Stove, but I doubt it. I'm gonna need at the very least actual quotes from actual people in that clubhouse before I believe that. Did they say McNeil was a bad clubhouse guy? Because if we've gotten any evidence on who's a bad presence, it's him. Also some of Stroman's teammates showed up and volunteered their time to his super cool baseball clinic this summer, something the media mostly failed to talk about.

kcmets Dec 02 2021 01:35 PM Re: Memories of Marcus Stroman

I DVR'd MHS and will watch when eating later.

duan Dec 03 2021 02:58 AM Re: Memories of Marcus Stroman

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Anthony DiComo and Jim Duquette were talking about Stroman on Mets Hot Stove. Implied that he may have been a bad influence in the clubhouse and said that Scherzer is an upgrade over Stroman. I don't know about the bad influence thing, but Scherzer/Stroman isn't an either/or, so that spin doesn't make any sense at all. It's the "subtly" racist stuff like this that makes me not care that Stroman gest a little uppity on Twitter. Almost no one says DiComo or Healey should "be quieter on Twitter" You are right that there's long been stereotypes that the media not so subtly allude to that don't stand up to scrutiny where the inference is often that there's a 'hustling white guy' whereas it seems like if the player is a person of colour they're often either a 'flashy latino' or a 'sulky black guy' (or whatever sweeping generalisation you're having yourself - PJ McCann didn't hang around long enough to be labelled a drunken paddy). However, effectively endorsing someone saying "Anthony DiComo is a WOP" is pretty clumsy and stupid and for a man who regularly pronounces how much he thinks about things to do it shows that maybe he doesn't think about things as much as he should. Good Luck to Marcus Stroman, I wish him no ill, I would have been happy if the mets had signed him and he can be as loud as he likes on twitter it just may affect what people think of him. He has no reason to care what I think of him in the scheme of life, but I can't say it didn't have an impact.

Ceetar Dec 03 2021 06:53 AM Re: Memories of Marcus Stroman

yeah. That's fair. I don't think he's a "thinker" so to speak, just willing to speak UP about some of the injustices and stuff he sees, which is important. I could do without the pseudo-religious mindfullness mumbo jumbo too. The wop thing is a poor look, I suspect he just doesn't like DiComo and was happy to pile on before realizing. (I actually had to look up the term myself)

vtmet7 Dec 07 2021 07:11 AM Re: Memories of Marcus Stroman

feels like we lost Walt Terrell without being rewarded with HoJo in return...

roger_that Dec 14 2021 06:14 AM Re: Memories of Marcus Stroman

I always thought of him as "Stroman the Yeoman," after R. Crumb's fantastic character Shuman the Human [url]https://www.reddit.com/r/comics/comments/b15qq/robert_crumb_shuman_the_human/. Now that he's moved on to another team, that name seems more appropriate than ever. In fact, we should change the spelling of the phrase "Move On" to "Mo Vaughn," which also seems appropriate to me.

bmfc1 Feb 22 2022 08:42 PM Re: Memories of Marcus Stroman Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Feb 22 2022 11:44 PM

I remember liking Marcus Stroman. Now I see him as classless and I can't wait for the Mets to embarrass him this season. The tweet insulting the Mets and Eppler (for the tragedy in Anaheim) was deleted but not fast enough: [TWEET]https://twitter.com/oliviapipia/status/1496320428595453963[/TWEET]

Edgy MD Feb 22 2022 08:44 PM Re: Memories of Marcus Stroman

Did Billy Eppler publicly do something controversial recently?

bmfc1 Feb 22 2022 11:46 PM Re: Memories of Marcus Stroman

I suspect that he is referring to the guilty verdict of the LAA employee who distributed drugs to the late Tyler Skaggs.

Fman99 Feb 23 2022 05:06 AM Re: Memories of Marcus Stroman

Good riddance, then, if he was so miserable. He should take into account the fact that like 97% of the Mets fans thought he was great, but, you know, shit on all of us, it's fine, whatevs

metsmarathon Feb 23 2022 06:00 AM Re: Memories of Marcus Stroman

is he wrong, or just wrong for saying it out loud? because if eppler was still the gm of the angels, he should oughtta get fired for what happened on his watch.

seawolf17 Feb 23 2022 06:30 AM Re: Memories of Marcus Stroman

I really like Stro too, and still do. He's probably right, honestly. His beef is with the org, not with the fans. But who likes their boss, really?

Fman99 Feb 23 2022 07:29 AM Re: Memories of Marcus Stroman

There was a 2nd tweet where he said some nonsense about Mets fans. I think he pulled it since then, I can't find it, but it's out there. OE: "Very very thankful to be out of there for several reasons. God always got me. Beyond excited to perform for an incredible fanbase who appreciates their players! @Cubs" Aw, uh, eat shit, my man.

metsmarathon Feb 23 2022 07:55 AM Re: Memories of Marcus Stroman

he's also not wrong about a certain fanbase not appreciating its players.

Edgy MD Feb 23 2022 09:36 AM Re: Memories of Marcus Stroman

I'm not sure how much blame I'm willing to give to Billy Eppler for Skaggs' death. I'm not even sure how much blame I'm willing to give Eric Kay. While it's clear that the Angels failed Tyler Skaggs at some level, the Mets have failed any number of their own players in the same manner, as so many institutions of society continue to fail the drug abusers in their ranks every day. My best friend from childhood has seen his life spiral in the last several years — losing a solid career in publishing following several bouts with heroin abuse and a torrid affair with the co-worker who introduced it to him. The employer gave him two leaves of absence to get himself detoxed and rehabbed, but on the third strike they let him go. Were they remiss in not cutting him loose earlier, exposing other workers to his toxic bullshit, or were they cruel and uncompassionate when they finally cut bait? It sounded to me like they did their best, but if he died in their employ, could his family sue the company because a co-worker was his partner in debauchery? Indeed, she introduced him to it. I can guess at what my responsibility is when I'm confronted by that sort of shit, but there are no easy answers. And most folks are just looking to pass the buck.

Frayed Knot Feb 23 2022 10:38 AM Re: Memories of Marcus Stroman

Sounds to me that Stroman was already pissed off about something (lack of contract offer?) or about several somethings, and is using the Eppler hire (not exactly timely now, eh Marcus?) or whatever else he can conjure up as an excuse to tee off on the org in general.

Frayed Knot Feb 25 2022 04:50 AM Re: Memories of Marcus Stroman

Stroman adds to his rant by claiming he regularly received death threats and racial taunts while pitching in New York and that the front office was indifferent. Tweet: “Endless death threats, being called a n—– often, hearing black lives don't matter, and playing for a front office who didn't care about any of that,” https://nypost.com/2022/02/24/marcus-stroman-mets-fans-used-n-word-sent-death-threats/

kcmets Jul 14 2022 07:59 AM Re: Memories of Marcus Stroman

Found this. We see Marcus tomorrow at 2:20 sharp.