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Harvey to testify in Skaggs case

Johnny Lunchbucket Feb 15 2022 07:30 AM

Our friend Matt Hovvey is expected to take the stand today in a case involving the former Angels' staffer accused of providing the drugs that killed Tyler Skaggs in 2019. One thing he'll be asked about is a test message exchange with Skaggs wherein Skaggs asked Harvey for something that would help him be "loosey-goosey." Harvey's not facing any charges (at this time) but who knows what'll come out. He knows a few things about drugs, that's for sure.

kcmets Feb 15 2022 07:56 AM Re: Harvey to testify in Skaggs case

Sportico: MATT HARVEY DRUG ALLEGATION IN SKAGGS TRIAL RAISES CONCERNS FOR MLB

Edgy MD Feb 15 2022 08:29 AM Re: Harvey to testify in Skaggs case

Harvey and Skaggs had adjoining lockers. Harvey may have noting to do this. But the idea that a young, borderline starting pitcher careening toward an early end looked to Harvey as a mentor was the least surprising thing ever. It's a strange part of me that's still rooting for the guy.

kcmets Feb 15 2022 08:48 AM Re: Harvey to testify in Skaggs case

I don't really know what to make of it all at this point. If Harvey is handing out non- prescription Percocet to teammates then boo on him. Let guys find their own dope. I'm not rooting against him, but jeez it's one thing after another for like a decade.

Johnny Lunchbucket Feb 15 2022 09:14 AM Re: Harvey to testify in Skaggs case

I have no doubt Harvey was a heavy user of Coke and who knows what else as a Met. Remember the bloody nose game?! I am sure it reveals a lot of internal turmoil I'm sure he struggled with a lot and shouldn't be looked at as a character flaw, necessarily but one of many signals of how unreliable and fragile he was

Edgy MD Feb 15 2022 09:26 AM Re: Harvey to testify in Skaggs case

What always got to me was, in all those photos of him stepping out with professionally beautiful women, how insecure and misbegotten he always seemed as he tried to project a cool smoothness. [FIMG=400]https://www.nydailynews.com/resizer/oR9HDf_Ui-lpUqFUl_iJHQDYzzY=/1200x0/top/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-tronc.s3.amazonaws.com/public/53VKCGQXLVDVS64AIXJJ2GFTJE.jpg[/FIMG] [FIMG=400]https://data.sportsworldnews.com/data/thumbs/full/31340/830/415/48/13/matt-harvey.jpg[/FIMG] I always got the idea that he was about to throw up. [FIMG=400]https://thumbor.forbes.com/thumbor/711x1066/https://blogs-images.forbes.com/josephdeacetis/files/2016/03/x-4.jpg?width=960[/FIMG] Breathe, man.

G-Fafif Feb 15 2022 09:41 AM Re: Harvey to testify in Skaggs case

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G-Fafif Feb 15 2022 09:42 AM Re: Harvey to testify in Skaggs case

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G-Fafif Feb 15 2022 09:43 AM Re: Harvey to testify in Skaggs case

[tweet]https://twitter.com/adamrubinmedia/status/1493621646850248717[/tweet]

Edgy MD Feb 15 2022 11:31 AM Re: Harvey to testify in Skaggs case

Is it the reporter's role to sit on such information or to pursue and report? I realize it's not his gig anymore, but I'm not sure "I'll say this and then stop" works.

Edgy MD Feb 15 2022 11:43 AM Re: Harvey to testify in Skaggs case

"Matt Harvey and White Lines"

stevejrogers Feb 15 2022 01:14 PM Re: Harvey to testify in Skaggs case

Edgy MD wrote: Is it the reporter's role to sit on such information or to pursue and report? I realize it's not his gig anymore, but I'm not sure "I'll say this and then stop" works. On the Devil's Advocate side, it probably is a “behind closed doors” until it becomes a legal issue or a flunked MLB drug test issue. Once it becomes a bigger story than say one fucked up night and miscommunications then it's no longer a case of “well, he's barely handling it, but it seems he's handling his high.” So I can see why journalists covering the team saw it more of a private matter than something you'd see Deadspin or TMZ jump at the first whisper of an issue.

MFS62 Feb 15 2022 01:49 PM Re: Harvey to testify in Skaggs case

Edgy MD wrote: "Matt Harvey and White Lines" That brings to mind something a CPF-er wrote at the time (And stuck in my mind) "Harvey sniffing coke off a model's ass in the back of an Escalade". Tough to forget a great line (no pun intended) like that. Later

Edgy MD Feb 15 2022 01:51 PM Re: Harvey to testify in Skaggs case

Well, there's a middle ground between ignore and "jump at the first whisper of an issue," and that's pursuing the facts and reporting responsibly. Whatever the Mets source gave him was probably officially off the record, but it's still information you can follow up on. I am certainly sympathetic to the idea that it's a "private matter," but when it's a public figure and you have information about an illegal matter that is affecting his public performance of a job people have an investment in, that can change. I don't know at what point it changes, but presumably, there's something like an authoritative journalistic playbook that clarifies that. Anyhow, it's certainly something I'm curious about.

stevejrogers Feb 15 2022 02:30 PM Re: Harvey to testify in Skaggs case

Edgy MD wrote: Well, there's a middle ground between ignore and "jump at the first whisper of an issue," and that's pursuing the facts and reporting responsibly. Whatever the Mets source gave him was probably officially off the record, but it's still information you can follow up on. I am certainly sympathetic to the idea that it's a "private matter," but when it's a public figure and you have information about an illegalmatter that is affecting his public performance of a job people have an investment in, that can change. I don't know at what point it changes, but presumably, there's something like an authoritative journalistic playbook that clarifies that. Anyhow, it's certainly something I'm curious about. Fair enough that illegal recreational drugs like coke, meth, weed, heroin, etc should carry more weight when hearing “there's a problem here” than alcohol. But at the same time, as far as anyone knows, Lenny, Doc and Darryl were the only members of the 1986 Mets that could not handle the highs of substance abuse, or keep things off of the law's radar. So that year's team copious drug use is still looked at in “no big deal” veins, including wondering if it's the ticket for current rosters to get over the hump! Never mind this summer the Mets are supposed to retiring the number of a guy they got dirt cheap from a division rival due to his love of cocaine, despite never once, that we know of, entering rehab or at least acknowledging that it was a crippling “habit” and his life has been improved since not using it as regularly as he did during his playing days. There certainly is a mass pop culture trend, well it's been in place since music artists of the 1930s to make less hard rec drugs like coke and weed be on the same level as alcohol when it comes to how serious addictions of them that aren't destructive to the user and/or others should be taken, I mean look at how many states now legalize weed. So IDK, the point still stands that it was more along the lines of a “has the line (no pun intended) been crossed yet where this has to be exposed by someone in my beat reporter position” than something happening with graver, and more legal consequences.

Marshmallowmilkshake Feb 15 2022 02:30 PM Re: Harvey to testify in Skaggs case

Edgy MD wrote: Well, there's a middle ground between ignore and "jump at the first whisper of an issue," and that's pursuing the facts and reporting responsibly. Whatever the Mets source gave him was probably officially off the record, but it's still information you can follow up on. I am certainly sympathetic to the idea that it's a "private matter," but when it's a public figure and you have information about an illegal matter that is affecting his public performance of a job people have an investment in, that can change. I don't know at what point it changes, but presumably, there's something like an authoritative journalistic playbook that clarifies that. Anyhow, it's certainly something I'm curious about. Had he reported about it at the time, getting it out there might have forced changes that saved Harvey's career. I don't know of drug use contributed to his arm and chest issues, but they sure aren't good for you. Seems odd that reporters will go to the mat to beat the truth out of people about if Lindor and McNeill were really looking at a raccoon when they were obviously fighting, but not about something like this.

stevejrogers Feb 15 2022 02:48 PM Re: Harvey to testify in Skaggs case

=Marshmallowmilkshake post_id=85888 time=1644960617 user_id=119] Had he reported about it at the time, getting it out there might have forced changes that saved Harvey's career. I don't know of drug use contributed to his arm and chest issues, but they sure aren't good for you. Seems odd that reporters will go to the mat to beat the truth out of people about if Lindor and McNeill were really looking at a raccoon when they were obviously fighting, but not about something like this.

The flip of that though is from the announced drug test failure and suspension in 1987 on, Dwight Gooden still is fighting those addictive demons.



It might be orange and blue colored glasses but I think Doc's downfall was more due to the pitches and innings logged on his arm, much more than losing battles to his addictions.

batmagadanleadoff Feb 15 2022 03:14 PM Re: Harvey to testify in Skaggs case

=stevejrogers post_id=85891 time=1644961734 user_id=57] It might be orange and blue colored glasses but I think Doc's downfall was more due to the pitches and innings logged on his arm, much more than losing battles to his addictions.

I read a SABRmetrical piece about 30 years ago, (maybe Tom House penned it or contributed to it) that said the same thing.

Edgy MD Feb 15 2022 03:16 PM Re: Harvey to testify in Skaggs case

So that year's team copious drug use is still looked at in “no big deal” veins, including wondering if it's the ticket for current rosters to get over the hump! That's firstly assigning a consensus point of view to your own perspective. Secondly, it's speculative. Thirdly, to the extent that it is looked at as no big deal, it's a closed book from 37 years ago. I'm trying to considering what a reporter's role is when it is current information he discovers on his beat. As for "no big deal," the choices made by that team left behind a lot of human wreckage. It still does. It is, in fact it is the human wreckage of a young man's fatal fentanyl overdose that has Harvey in court in the first place. I'm not looking for Harvey's head on a platter here, but yeah, I don't know that a reporter is doing his or her job if he or she sits on that story. And as (mostly) a fan of Adam Rubin's work, I'd like the conversation to go beyond "I'll say this and stop."

Frayed Knot Feb 15 2022 03:30 PM Re: Harvey to testify in Skaggs case

I think it's likely as simple as Rubin being told in confidence at the time, with the agreement that he was Not allowed to repeat it, and now feels free to say so because he's only commenting on what has (just now) become public knowledge, particularly since today's testimony included admission of cocaine use as a NYM.

Edgy MD Feb 15 2022 03:51 PM Re: Harvey to testify in Skaggs case

I think so also.

stevejrogers Feb 15 2022 04:39 PM Re: Harvey to testify in Skaggs case

Edgy MD wrote: Thirdly, to the extent that it is looked at as no big deal, it's a closed book from 37 years ago. I'm trying to considering what a reporter's role is when it is current information he discovers on his beat. As for "no big deal," the choices made by that team left behind a lot of human wreckage. It still does. It is, in fact it is the human wreckage of a young man's fatal fentanyl overdose that has Harvey in court in the first place. I'm not looking for Harvey's head on a platter here, but yeah, I don't know that a reporter is doing his or her job if he or she sits on that story. And as (mostly) a fan of Adam Rubin's work, I'd like the conversation to go beyond "I'll say this and stop." I agree, but a point I was trying to make in the word salad was the notion of how at least cocaine and marijuana are seen as on the level of alcohol in terms of “acceptable” recreational drugs. Hell weed is legal in quite a few states now. Which, and while I agree with FK it could have been told to Rubin in confidence, with an agreement not to discuss it, probably leads situations like “I don't think this guy is handling his high well at all” to be sat on until legal and/or horrific personal consequences start to arise.

G-Fafif Feb 15 2022 06:18 PM Re: Harvey to testify in Skaggs case

Terry tells what he knows to Puma of the Post. Reached by phone, Harvey's manager for most of his Mets tenure, Terry Collins, was asked if he was surprised to hear the pitcher had admitted to cocaine usage. “The answer is, probably not,” Collins told The Post. “There was a testing program going on throughout Major League Baseball. We weren't allowed to do any of our own stuff. There were accusations that were being thrown around the clubhouse, for sure, but I had no proof of it at all. I can just tell you what guys were saying. “There was a time I addressed an off-the-field issue with one of the other guys on the team and his statement was, ‘Well, I'm not doing what Matt Harvey is doing.' I said, ‘This isn't about Matt Harvey, this is about you.' I tried to get off that subject as fast as I could. Was there knowledge in the clubhouse? Without question.” MLB's testing program at the time — it has been amended since Skaggs' death — did not test players for “drugs of abuse” (including cocaine) without reasonable cause that a player had used, sold or distributed such a drug in the previous 12-month period. Reasonable cause extended beyond rumors, and to be established needed eyewitness testimony or evidence. Harvey's tumultuous Mets tenure included a missed game, for which he was suspended, after a night of partying in 2017 and instances of reporting late to the ballpark. Harvey notably went AWOL from the Mets workout at Citi Field before the team traveled to Los Angeles for the NL Division Series in 2015. Sandy Alderson, the Mets general manager during most of Harvey's Mets tenure — he has since returned to the organization as team president — declined comment through a team spokesman as did GM Billy Eppler, who served in the same role for the Angels at the time of Skaggs' death. Former Mets COO Jeff Wilpon also declined comment. Collins said the Mets tried to address Harvey's rumored cocaine usage without accusing him of it. “Was there a time someone said, ‘Are you on something?' without naming anything? That was probably brought up,” Collins said. “But pretty much you addressed it as, ‘Look, you have got to clean up your off-the-field situation.' That was it.” Harvey was so despondent at times that he openly talked about killing himself, according to a source. Collins acknowledged Monday that Harvey's behavior was erratic enough to warrant counseling with the Mets' mental skills coach. “Certainly, that was addressed,” Collins said. “Again, it's Matt, and one time he talked about, ‘I should just kill myself.' That's kind of a common excuse. You try to deal with it the best you can. We certainly tried to get him help, get him some assistance.” https://nypost.com/2022/02/15/matt-harvey-talked-about-killing-himself-while-with-the-mets/

Fman99 Feb 15 2022 07:12 PM Re: Harvey to testify in Skaggs case

Christ, that's terrible. Like so many other gifted athletes and artists who preceded him. Demons come up from behind you and they don't care about your resume, your Grammys, or your ERA titles or All Star games or any of that. They just pounce.

Edgy MD Feb 15 2022 07:45 PM Re: Harvey to testify in Skaggs case

Sounds like Terry is about as awkward at confronting such issues as most people. Look at him being indirect about being indirect.

LWFS Feb 16 2022 12:09 AM Re: Harvey to testify in Skaggs case

Um... why exactly is Collins talking about Harvey's suicidal ideation, depression, and other matters presumably spoken in confidence to a trusted mentor? Why is he answering these press calls and talking about this stuff today, of all days? For God's sake... why is Collins saying ANYTHING right now?

Edgy MD Feb 16 2022 07:45 AM Re: Harvey to testify in Skaggs case

A worthwhile point to make. I think the answer is that he feels a tad defensive.

LWFS Feb 16 2022 07:58 AM Re: Harvey to testify in Skaggs case

Unless there's a better answer somewhere to be found, I'm starting to think the clubhouses that turned on him were right. And speaking of which... yay, Sandy! [Sarcastic applause]

batmagadanleadoff Feb 16 2022 08:10 AM Re: Harvey to testify in Skaggs case

Edgy MD wrote: A worthwhile point to make. I think the answer is that he feels a tad defensive. Perhaps Collins believed that Harvey opened the door by testifying (i.e., going public and on the record). BTW, Harvey was granted immunity for his testimony.

bmfc1 Feb 16 2022 08:39 AM Re: Harvey to testify in Skaggs case

Why did SNY put Terry on the spot? Terry might have felt obligated to respond as he is likely on the SNY payroll.

Johnny Lunchbucket Feb 16 2022 08:58 AM Re: Harvey to testify in Skaggs case

Yeah I think Terry is OK making comments here. Sandy and the club beside being gagged in the lockout are still associated and so correctly no-commented. I'm not sure about Rubin but given his actions as a reporter (taking on Bernazard accusations and Omar has-lobby) I'm sure what he knew he couldn't report on given an understanding with whoever shared that with him. We all heard the euphemisms and oughta have been able to connect the dots

LWFS Feb 16 2022 08:58 AM Re: Harvey to testify in Skaggs case Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Feb 16 2022 09:04 AM

MULTIPLE outlets. Post, SNY, FAN. He's a damn grandfather, and a former professional leader of men. If at the point he doesn't understand his professional obligations clearly-- or how to form the words "no comment" when asked about a former confidant's mental health-- he should fill his pockets with rocks and walk into the sea. Or, y'know, maybe he could talk to someone about those despair/confusion issues... someone trustworthy, who won't talk to the press. Why the fuck should ANY player EVER be honest with their team EVER if this sort of thing is so casually done?

Johnny Lunchbucket Feb 16 2022 09:03 AM Re: Harvey to testify in Skaggs case

I was addressing him talking and not necessarily what he said, but yeah the suicide stuff was probably inviting trouble that needn't have been introed

TransMonk Feb 16 2022 09:13 AM Re: Harvey to testify in Skaggs case

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/TimothyRRyder/status/1493981226004361217[/TWEET] Pre-Terry, but I know we were all waiting to hear from Steve Trachsel.

Johnny Lunchbucket Feb 16 2022 09:15 AM Re: Harvey to testify in Skaggs case

Oh great, Traxx is anti-masker

TransMonk Feb 16 2022 09:15 AM Re: Harvey to testify in Skaggs case

Yeah, his Twitter timeline is pretty gross.

Lefty Specialist Feb 16 2022 09:16 AM Re: Harvey to testify in Skaggs case

Terry probably should have 'no comment'-ed his way out of that one. But the questions would keep coming about 'what did you know and when did you know it?' because he was his manager for years and had to know at least a little of what was up. Mets probably should have had a statement ready for him to read at some point.

duan Feb 16 2022 09:51 AM Re: Harvey to testify in Skaggs case

None of Terry's quotes are great but I wouldn't rush to criticise him for talking about Harvey's issues here. There's a degree where Harvey's gone under oath and talking about things that takes stuff into the realm of the discussible. I do think the "I should just kill myself.' That's kind of a common excuse" - is pretty icky but I think you can just see a guy who was a bit out of his depth trying to figure out where to go with something.

Edgy MD Feb 16 2022 10:20 AM Re: Harvey to testify in Skaggs case

How do you get a gig in helping athletes clarify their thoughts usefully before they speak?

duan Feb 16 2022 10:34 AM Re: Harvey to testify in Skaggs case

that's called being a pr person.

Frayed Knot Feb 16 2022 10:56 AM Re: Harvey to testify in Skaggs case

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: Oh great, Traxx is anti-masker Maybe Trax is just slow to grasp their effectiveness. Bah-dum-ching!

Edgy MD Feb 16 2022 10:59 AM Re: Harvey to testify in Skaggs case

=duan post_id=85943 time=1645032853 user_id=99] that's called being a pr person.

Of course. I guess what I meant to implicitly ask is, shouldn't agents be telling their clients, Find out what the reporter wants and then talk to Sara before calling back and going on the record; she's on retainer and teasing what you have to say through her is a lot easier than asking her to clean up afterwards?

Fman99 Feb 16 2022 12:09 PM Re: Harvey to testify in Skaggs case

Terry should know better, is all.

LWFS Feb 16 2022 01:39 PM Re: Harvey to testify in Skaggs case

Lefty Specialist wrote: Terry probably should have 'no comment'-ed his way out of that one. But the questions would keep coming about 'what did you know and when did you know it?' because he was his manager for years and had to know at least a little of what was up. Mets probably should have had a statement ready for him to read at some point. "] Terry should know better, is all.

He should ABSOLUTELY know better.



He didn't answer a 6:00 AM phone call from Howard Stern and mumble something ill-advised. THREE fucking interviews yesterday.

LWFS Feb 16 2022 01:43 PM Re: Harvey to testify in Skaggs case

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: Oh great, Traxx is anti-masker Pratt's pretty terrible, too (in ADDITION to being anti-living-wage/suck-it-up-buttercup for minor leaguers... as a minor league manager).

Edgy MD Feb 16 2022 01:59 PM Re: Harvey to testify in Skaggs case

That's pratty disappointing to hear coming from a big union guy who bragged about flipping pizzas during the strike and later shit-talked the replacement players who made it to the bigs.

MFS62 Feb 16 2022 02:00 PM Re: Harvey to testify in Skaggs case

Frayed Knot wrote: Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: Oh great, Traxx is anti-masker Maybe Trax is just slow to grasp their effectiveness. Bah-dum-ching! LOL! Yup. In addition to being a slow worker on the mound, he's a slow thinker. Later

whippoorwill Feb 16 2022 04:53 PM Re: Harvey to testify in Skaggs case

This is upsetting

G-Fafif Feb 16 2022 04:59 PM Re: Harvey to testify in Skaggs case

Kevin Plawecki: not into TC anymore (if he ever was). [tweet]https://twitter.com/kplawecki26/status/1493800593541844994[/tweet]

Edgy MD Feb 16 2022 08:10 PM Re: Harvey to testify in Skaggs case

It's very instructive at a level. He passed the buck and felt like he did his part. That's what modern leadership looks like today. It's infuriating, but it's hardly unique to Terry. And he at least owns it to the extent of "There were signs that we should have addressed some things." But a few beats later, he's back with, "We certainly addressed it." Clearly, not so much.

metsmarathon Feb 17 2022 08:36 AM Re: Harvey to testify in Skaggs case

it's appalling how little framework there is in the MLB to help players when they clearly have these issues. both drugs and mental health. sweep it under the rug. be proud that you have a therapist on call, but never actually take a man who is clearly struggling, in that moment, when he most needs it, to get the help he's begging for. and instead just churn through the players like so much chaff, so you can eke whatever performance you can in that moment out of their dying soul. i mean, fuck, its a problem in society as a whole. but with as much as is invested in players, it would be fucking nice if a sports league would take a leadership role in addressing mental health. and maybe use that to set a standard for the rest of us. there's inklings of it percolating about, what with simone biles speaking out about mental health and wellness, and naomi osaka as well. but they're responded to too often with derision and scorn, saying they're weak and just can't handle the pressure, when sometimes, often times, the right way to handle pressure is to relieve it. but nope, we've gotta be tough guys and insensitive cavemen, and if it drives young stars to contemplate suicide, or seek refuge in narcotics, well, hopefully they at least have the good sense to have a low ERA and burn out for another team.

Edgy MD Feb 17 2022 12:29 PM Re: Harvey to testify in Skaggs case

It's also, in part, a bi-product of us allowing our leagues to operate as cartels. Where are you going to go if you want to walk away from a situation and perhaps find another doorway into the sport?

Frayed Knot Feb 17 2022 02:35 PM Re: Harvey to testify in Skaggs case

ex-Angels employee found guilty of supplying the drugs that led to pitcher Tyler Scaggs' death. https://nypost.com/2022/02/17/ex-angels-employee-found-guilty-in-overdose-death-of-pitcher-tyler-skaggs/

duan Feb 18 2022 03:02 AM Re: Harvey to testify in Skaggs case

While I have no particular desire for people to be tested for 'recreational' substances, it does strike me as bonkers that a guy like could have what seems to be a serious cocaine problem and nobody go anywhere close to addressing it properly. There's definitely a sense of well as long as he takes the mound (nearly) every 5th day - we don't care.

seawolf17 Feb 18 2022 05:57 AM Re: Harvey to testify in Skaggs case

Everything about this story makes me sad, from top to bottom.

metsmarathon Feb 18 2022 06:17 AM Re: Harvey to testify in Skaggs case

what really pisses me off if the reporting that if harvey signs somewhere, he's going to get popped with a 60-day suspension. for being open and honest in a criminal trial that put to jail a dude who was responsible for killing a player. and after baring his soul to show his inner demons. like, fucking hell. embrace this man, get him the help he needs. and if anything, go to him and help him to help other players who might be in the same place that he was. don't fucking punish him three years after the fucking fact. that's bullshit. if you want this shit out of your league and out of your clubhouses, grant him immunity, and grant anyone who openly comes clean the same. and then get them help. otherwise, mlb will have failed matt harvey twice.

seawolf17 Feb 18 2022 08:35 AM Re: Harvey to testify in Skaggs case

=metsmarathon post_id=86002 time=1645190273 user_id=83] what really pisses me off if the reporting that if harvey signs somewhere, he's going to get popped with a 60-day suspension. for being open and honest in a criminal trial that put to jail a dude who was responsible for killing a player. and after baring his soul to show his inner demons. like, fucking hell. embrace this man, get him the help he needs. and if anything, go to him and help him to help other players who might be in the same place that he was. don't fucking punish him three years after the fucking fact. that's bullshit. if you want this shit out of your league and out of your clubhouses, grant him immunity, and grant anyone who openly comes clean the same. and then get them help. otherwise, mlb will have failed matt harvey twice.

Exactly. I don't know if Harvey has anything left in the tank to compete at the MLB level, but the guy needs support.

duan Feb 18 2022 09:41 AM Re: Harvey to testify in Skaggs case

=metsmarathon post_id=86002 time=1645190273 user_id=83] what really pisses me off if the reporting that if harvey signs somewhere, he's going to get popped with a 60-day suspension.

Is this true?

That's demented.

whippoorwill Feb 18 2022 11:45 AM Re: Harvey to testify in Skaggs case

=seawolf17 post_id=86001 time=1645189038 user_id=91] Everything about this story makes me sad, from top to bottom.

Ditto