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Nu Wave Revisited (Split from "What's Your Thing?")

Edgy MD
Jan 17 2022 12:06 PM

My new lockdown project has been researching and ranking all the women of nu wave — subsequently expanded into Women of the Nu Wave/Post Punk/Power Pop Era Centered Around 1978-1983. Maybe '84.



Such projects tend to spin out of control, and this one has, swelling from an original list of 25 that is now up to 219, 46 of whom are listed but not yet rated. I realize I forgot one, and then adding her triggers four more additions.



Current #100 is Susan Ann Sulley of The Human League.



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kcmets
Jan 17 2022 12:43 PM
Re: What's Your Thing?

Those two Human League chicks should have bailed on the dudes and

started their own band. It would have been huge! Huge, I tell ya...



(no patience for the genre, just sayin')

Edgy MD
Jan 17 2022 01:18 PM
Re: What's Your Thing?

I hears ya', but there's a reason she's at #100. There's wimmins responsible for indubitably great cultural contributions further up.



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kcmets
Jan 17 2022 01:25 PM

This is funny!



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Frayed Knot
Jan 17 2022 02:08 PM
Re: What's Your Thing?

I'm always amazed when peeps here suddenly revive a long dormant thread and dive right back into it.

kcmets
Jan 17 2022 02:14 PM
Re: What's Your Thing?

That much is true.

Marshmallowmilkshake
Jan 17 2022 03:42 PM
Re: What's Your Thing?

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I love Human League! This later cut -- Heart Like a Wheel -- is fantastic!



Check out this award show appearance -- with Joanne Catherall lip synching and dancing apparently with her arm in a sling!

kcmets
Jan 17 2022 03:49 PM
Re: What's Your Thing?

That's like, really hard to get through... so I didn't...

Edgy MD
Jan 17 2022 04:03 PM
Re: What's Your Thing?

Yeah, the best nu wave clips are from European television and introduced in Dutch or Swedish.



Also, the best thing I can offer Kase about the Humid League is Phil Oakley's unabashed praise of the Ramones in "The Things That Dreams Are Made Of."



Also, a wonderful side effect of my research is that it has allowed me to unearth what may be the greatest nu wave artifact of all time.



[YOUTUBE]OGf_kQZCDJY[/YOUTUBE]



If that doesn't get me the MacArthur Genius Grant I've been applying for, then you know the whole game is rigged.

kcmets
Jan 17 2022 05:31 PM
Re: What's Your Thing?

I lasted a minute, no way I could do 22 minutes more of that.

Edgy MD
Jan 17 2022 05:56 PM
Re: What's Your Thing?

=kcmets post_id=84744 time=1642465898 user_id=53]
I lasted a minute, no way I could do 22 minutes more of that.



Yeah, any further viewing and listening should probably only be done in labs with highly modified headsets.

Marshmallowmilkshake
Jan 17 2022 08:47 PM
Re: What's Your Thing?

Edgy MD wrote:

=kcmets post_id=84744 time=1642465898 user_id=53]
I lasted a minute, no way I could do 22 minutes more of that.


Yeah, any further viewing and listening should probably only be done in labs with highly modified headsets.



OMG, there is a lot to unpack in there. Starting with the rhythm section. The bass player with different color pants. The hunched over drummer. That's some glorious nu wave going on there.

Frayed Knot
Jan 18 2022 05:05 AM
Re: What's Your Thing?

Edgy MD wrote:

My new lockdown project has been researching and ranking all the women of nu wave —


I'd help you out, but viewing that last video I realize I'm going to need a little help figuring out which of those are women.

Fman99
Jan 18 2022 05:07 AM
Re: What's Your Thing?

Edgy MD wrote:

Yeah, the best nu wave clips are from European television and introduced in Dutch or Swedish.



Also, the best thing I can offer Kase about the Humid League is Phil Oakley's unabashed praise of the Ramones in "The Things That Dreams Are Made Of."



Also, a wonderful side effect of my research is that it has allowed me to unearth what may be the greatest nu wave artifact of all time.



[YOUTUBE]OGf_kQZCDJY[/YOUTUBE]



If that doesn't get me the MacArthur Genius Grant I've been applying for, then you know the whole game is rigged.


Chreee--isst this is some shit here

Johnny Lunchbucket
Jan 18 2022 05:54 AM
Re: What's Your Thing?

There's some good stuff here. I don;t think I knew "Lebanon"

whippoorwill
Jan 18 2022 06:46 AM
Re: What's Your Thing?

Did a bunny hole dive on Human League not long ago. Actually if I remember correctly the two girls were friends that the lead guy saw dancing together in a teenage club and politely asked both their parents if they could join his band

Edgy MD
Jan 18 2022 06:51 AM
Re: What's Your Thing?

Well, sadly, Susan Ann Sulley has had her day.



But our new #100 is another Susan — actress Susan Berman, seen here in the nu wavingest trailer for the post-punkingest Susan (sense a pattern here?) Seidelman film, Smithereens.



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The Hot Corner
Jan 20 2022 06:27 PM
Re: What's Your Thing?

=kcmets post_id=84744 time=1642465898 user_id=53]
I lasted a minute, no way I could do 22 minutes more of that.



At around the 30 second mark, I had to bail. Definitely not my thing.

Edgy MD
Jan 20 2022 10:06 PM
Re: What's Your Thing?

Well, the idea was, sort of, that it wasn't really anybody's thing, but the times were weird, and folks weren't sure what they should be on the lookout for, and somehow, somebody pointed a camera at them anyway.



I have a problem with drums. I can fake a consistent beat for a minute or so on the hi-hat and snare, but once I try to incorporate my feet on the pedals, every thing goes to shit. It's a strange day that I look at a drummer in an actual band and think, "I can do as good as that," but Human Sexual Response's drummer kind of had me thinking that And the costumes seem to be a missing link between some Sid 'n' Marty Kroft production (The Bugaloos?) and The Wiggles.



HSR actually did release a defensible record or two in their short heyday, but that certainly isn't captured there in that madness. I think they twice won WLIR's Screamer of the Week contest. I think that clip belongs in a museum, but I didn't actually expect anybody to go out and buy their records.



Currently at #100 is yet another Susan — Susan Schmidt of Akron, Ohio's own Chi-Pig. I won't offer any links.

Johnny Lunchbucket
Jan 21 2022 06:26 AM
Re: What's Your Thing?

"We don't need your fascist groove thing" if nothing else was a top-10 title for a single.

kcmets
Jan 21 2022 06:34 AM
Re: What's Your Thing?

Reason #6 why mescaline was a big thing back then...



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Edgy MD
Jan 26 2022 09:13 PM
Re: Nu Wave Revisited (Split from "What's Your Thing?")

My deep dive has left me shocked by the heretofore-unknown-to-me reality of how huge this music was in the Balkans, flying the flag high in Serbia and the like well before the fall of the Iron Curtain. I've stumbled over a dozen such bands.



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Edgy MD
Jan 31 2022 02:33 PM
Re: Nu Wave Revisited (Split from "What's Your Thing?")

Another fine nu wave artifact unearthed. Come for the operatically weird nu wave vixen. Stay for the banter with Don Rickles on Merv Griffin's couch.



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kcmets
Jan 31 2022 03:37 PM
Re: Nu Wave Revisited (Split from "What's Your Thing?")

None of the bizarro Nu Wave stuff you're digging up for whatever reason

defines the Nu Wave era to me. The first 30 seconds of that video is utter

garbage, impossible to keep it rolling... garbage.

Edgy MD
Jan 31 2022 04:03 PM
Re: Nu Wave Revisited (Split from "What's Your Thing?")

Nina is number 47, so she certainly not definitive of anything but her odd self, but use the slider, man. There's good stuff when she gets to the couch (around 1:50). You can imagine yourself in Don's place.

Edgy MD
Jan 31 2022 04:26 PM
Re: Nu Wave Revisited (Split from "What's Your Thing?")

If you want actual nu wave activity that justifies itself on the face of it, there's #25, Holly Beth Vincent with her band the Italians. Jump ahead to about 2:40 for the better of the two songs performed here.



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H&tI are mostly known for this track, but since there are no clips of her performing it, here's it being covered by Wendy James and Transvision Vamp. (Wendy is not yet ranked, but seeing as TVV came along later, she probably gets somewhere between 100 and 150. Solid band but derivative.)



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But for definitive, you've got to look to the real heavy hitters, and that's what you get with top ten characters like #2, Annie Lennox.



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kcmets
Jan 31 2022 05:11 PM
Re: Nu Wave Revisited (Split from "What's Your Thing?")

I guess this all means something more to you than it does to me.



I apologize for being negative.

Marshmallowmilkshake
Jan 31 2022 05:23 PM
Re: Nu Wave Revisited (Split from "What's Your Thing?")

Edgy, were you at the Waitresses show at NCC when Holly had to fill in for -- or take over for, don't remember which -- the lead singer? She was reading lyrics off index cards. Pretty brave performance.



I'd heard of Nina Hagen, but that was the first time I'd actually heard her stuff.



These are bringing back great memories! Keep 'em coming!

Edgy MD
Jan 31 2022 05:46 PM
Re: Nu Wave Revisited (Split from "What's Your Thing?")

Oh, I've bored many others before you. I get used to it.



Apologies here.

Edgy MD
Feb 09 2022 09:16 AM
Re: Nu Wave Revisited (Split from "What's Your Thing?")

Artifact #43c: Teen Michael Jackson in disguise for his date with his teen sweetheart Tatum O'Neal.



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Edgy MD
Feb 10 2022 10:08 PM
Re: Nu Wave Revisited (Split from "What's Your Thing?")

Did you know this star got his start with a youth-targeted nu wave duo? Well, it's true!



Name this vocalist and future acting sensation.



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Fman99
Feb 11 2022 04:57 AM
Re: Nu Wave Revisited (Split from "What's Your Thing?")

I cheated and looked it up. I would never have guessed it, not in 100 years.

Johnny Lunchbucket
Feb 11 2022 06:27 AM
Re: Nu Wave Revisited (Split from "What's Your Thing?")

I had to cheat too. Was thrown by the word "vocalist" thinking it was a singer but if it helps, he's better known as an actor today, not a singer

Willets Point
Feb 11 2022 07:51 AM
Re: Nu Wave Revisited (Split from "What's Your Thing?")

Ricky Gervais?

Edgy MD
Feb 11 2022 10:40 AM
Re: Nu Wave Revisited (Split from "What's Your Thing?")

Bingo, bango, bongo!

ashie62
Feb 11 2022 11:13 AM
Re: Nu Wave Revisited (Split from "What's Your Thing?")

Nina Hagen. Saw her show in the seventies. Perf0rmance art I guess. The cockatoo she was wearing on her head was unique.

ashie62
Feb 11 2022 11:15 AM
Re: Nu Wave Revisited (Split from "What's Your Thing?")

Edgy MD wrote:

Did you know this star got his start with a youth-targeted nu wave duo? Well, it's true!



Name this vocalist and future acting sensation.



[YOUTUBE]ABjYSxyUD98[/YOUTUBE]


I guess Ricky was a follower.

Edgy MD
Feb 12 2022 02:09 PM
Re: Nu Wave Revisited (Split from "What's Your Thing?")

=Marshmallowmilkshake post_id=85376 time=1643675028 user_id=119]
Edgy, were you at the Waitresses show at NCC when Holly had to fill in for -- or take over for, don't remember which -- the lead singer? She was reading lyrics off index cards. Pretty brave performance.



I wasn't at the Waitresses show, but Holly Beth Vincent's tenure in the band lasted only two weeks, before Patty Donahue came back to finish the tour and the band spit for good, so you caught a blink-and-you-miss-it lineup.



Patty Donahue is currently sitting at a lofty 35, with her hardworking bandmate, bassist Tracy Wormworth, 10 slots back at 45.



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Tracy has been in big demand ever since, touring with the B-52s, Cyndi Lauper, and Sting, among others.

Marshmallowmilkshake
Feb 12 2022 04:08 PM
Re: Nu Wave Revisited (Split from "What's Your Thing?")

Kudos to the Patty and the Waitresses for writing one of the best Christmas songs ever!



If Wikipedia can be believed, the story behind it is pretty interesting. Guitarist Chris Butler writing the lyrics in a taxi on the way to the recording studio. They had no expectations the song would gain popularity over the years.



[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_Wrapping


Each festive season, Butler makes a donation to the Akron-Summit County children's library in the name of the first person to tell him they heard "Christmas Wrapping" on the radio.

Edgy MD
Feb 12 2022 09:16 PM
Re: Nu Wave Revisited (Split from "What's Your Thing?")

Willets Point wrote:

Ricky Gervais?


Before you collect your winnings, can you tell our studio audience and the folks watching at home what tipped you off?

Willets Point
Feb 12 2022 09:51 PM
Re: Nu Wave Revisited (Split from "What's Your Thing?")

It looked like him. In the eyes.

Fman99
Feb 21 2022 09:17 AM
Re: Nu Wave Revisited (Split from "What's Your Thing?")

Christ, Don kills it there. She's an entire box of corn flakes, that one.

duan
Feb 23 2022 09:26 AM
Re: What's Your Thing?

Edgy MD wrote:

I hears ya', but there's a reason she's at #100. There's wimmins responsible for indubitably great cultural contributions further up.



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I saw Tina Weymouth play as part of Warren Zeavon's band back in the late 80s/early 90s I think. Warren's appeal was pretty selective at that point in time - he'd been booked to play 2/3 nights and hadn't even sold out the first one. Great show still

Edgy MD
Feb 23 2022 09:42 AM
Re: Nu Wave Revisited (Split from "What's Your Thing?")

Bassist Sara Lee, the #20 All-Time Ranked Woman of Post-Punk/Power Pop Score/Nu Wave, comes to the Black Cat in DC with Gang of Four on March 9.



How much would you pay?



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Fman99
Feb 23 2022 10:41 AM
Re: Nu Wave Revisited (Split from "What's Your Thing?")

I mean, if I can believe what I've heard, no one does it like her.

Edgy MD
Mar 01 2022 03:50 PM
Re: Nu Wave Revisited (Split from "What's Your Thing?")

Currently sitting nicely in the #273 position is the one and only.



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Edgy MD
Mar 07 2022 09:36 PM
Re: Nu Wave Revisited (Split from "What's Your Thing?")

Fact o' the Moment: No-wave rocker Kim Gordon dated Oingo Boingo film composer Danny Elfman in high school.

ashie62
Mar 08 2022 11:48 AM
Re: Nu Wave Revisited (Split from "What's Your Thing?")

Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Mar 09 2022 07:32 AM

The orbit of Holly Beth Vincent



Holly was one the first friends Karen Valentine made in LA



Sara Lee played bass with Robert Fripp in the short lived, but outstanding "League of Gentlemen."



Holly & the Italians opened for the Clash at the iconic Bond's series of shows.



The Waitress's had a classy drummer from Television, Billy Ficca .

Edgy MD
Mar 08 2022 12:40 PM
Re: Nu Wave Revisited (Split from "What's Your Thing?")

Waitresses were pretty classy across the board, apart from sax player Mars Williams' weird camera mugging.

Edgy MD
Mar 08 2022 07:53 PM
Re: Nu Wave Revisited (Split from "What's Your Thing?")

I'm a crazed connoisseur when it comes to bands doing guest spots on TV shows, but I'd never seen this one, and it kinda kills.



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ashie62
Mar 09 2022 07:37 AM
Re: Nu Wave Revisited (Split from "What's Your Thing?")

There were some terrific band on ABC's live show "Fridays including Devo. I believe the Clash made their American debut on Fridays.



All good stuff.

Johnny Lunchbucket
Mar 09 2022 07:39 AM
Re: Nu Wave Revisited (Split from "What's Your Thing?")

The Graham Parker performance on Fridays is one of the best I've ever seen on TV

Edgy MD
Mar 09 2022 07:54 AM
Re: Nu Wave Revisited (Split from "What's Your Thing?")

Yeah, the Fridays musical legacy is terrific. They also did weird brand-defying craziness like have The Plasmatics on one week and The Manhattan Transfer on the next.



But my soft spot is when a musical guest shows up in the middle of a dramatic/comedic TV show and tries to shoehorn a lip-synching of their new single into the plotline. "I'm glad you could all make it to my pool party and ... hey, everybody, look! It's Adam Ant! I'm glad you could join us, Adam! Do you have time for a song?!"



Bonus points if the guest gets to awkwardly participate in the conflict and it's outcome. "Adam, before you leave, Mallory has a problem. She promised Kenny she'd go to the Romance-in-the-Catskills Dance with him, and he's all heart and has been real nice, but he's kind of a dork. But now Jake asked to take her and he's real popular and has a cool car? What do you, Adam Ant, think she should do?"

Willets Point
Mar 09 2022 08:43 AM
Re: Nu Wave Revisited (Split from "What's Your Thing?")

My mind immediately flashes to the Doobie Brothers delivering a Very Important Message against bootlegging concerts on "What's Happening!!"

Edgy MD
Mar 09 2022 08:56 AM
Re: Nu Wave Revisited (Split from "What's Your Thing?")

In the great history of band guest spots on TV shows, that's really an inner-circle Hall-of-Famer. They got, like, large portions of six separate songs into that two-part episode!

Johnny Lunchbucket
Mar 09 2022 10:45 AM
Re: Nu Wave Revisited (Split from "What's Your Thing?")

Even with the silly effects he's on fire here



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Edgy MD
Mar 17 2022 01:45 PM
Re: Nu Wave Revisited (Split from "What's Your Thing?")

A special congratulations to Chrissy Hynde for finishing atop the Women of the Post-Punk/Power-Pop/Nu-Wave Era Poll!



Chrissy swept the writers and the coaches surveys, to help us avoid any trophy controversy. The ranking process proved illuminating, and then not. The top twenty isn't particularly controversial. Most reasonable observers would agree that these figures deserve to be about where they are, give or take a notch or two. The next 20, most would agree, deserve to be highly ranked, but who knows where?



But somewhere after that, maybe at 50, and maybe at 250, the ranking stops looking like a ranking, so much as a list. And opening up the gate flooded the field. You let in one actress, and two dozen actresses come in after that. You think, "Yeah, I guess no-wavers are a real thing, and no-wave musicianz should be included here also," and all of a sudden, no-wave filmmakers are waving their reels and saying "What about us??!!"



As if those films weren't torturous enough the first time. And when country rockers, like Linda Rondstat and Kim Carnes, who legitimately produced nu wave music get a ticket, I suddenly get Victoria Williams' manager on the phone yelling at me. As if she did anything with Kraftwerk! You can't win!



It seemed endless, but the list stopped at 410. It could have ballooned up to 500 easy. it still could. But I learned more about these genres and the global movements they were associated with than i thought there was to possibly know.



Cogratulations as well to Gillian Gilbert for finishing, ummm, 45th!!



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Edgy MD
Mar 17 2022 09:22 PM
Re: Nu Wave Revisited (Split from "What's Your Thing?")

I like how you can break it down by category.



Here are the Princechicks, Ranked by Their PP/PP/NW status.



12) Susanna Hoffs

29) Lisa Coleman

32) Wendy Melvoin

105) Susanna Melvoin

134) Sinead O'Connor

148) Gayle Chapman

191) Apollonia Kotero

250) Susan Moonsie

254) Vanity

255) Sheila E.

279) Chaka Khan

280) Brenda Bennett

320) Sheena Easton

387) Kim Basinger

Edgy MD
Jul 21 2023 12:00 PM
Re: Nu Wave Revisited (Split from "What's Your Thing?")

Hey, it's nu-wave Alice!



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