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Who should sponsor the Mets?

Johnny Lunchbucket Mar 14 2022 08:12 AM

So as you know the CBA includes uni-advertisements for the first time. League says they are still going over details, and got from a well-placed source that the Mets haven't ordered any new patches--yet. With the understanding that we all hate this for many reasons--primarily around the idea of aligning a brand over another brand for which we all have resilient affection--who would you hold and nose and like most as a sponsor? Could be any company or product except alcohol and sportsbooks, which I'm pretty sure are to be excluded.

Benjamin Grimm Mar 14 2022 08:19 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

How about Met Life? Who could object to seeing Snoopy on a Mets batting helmet?

metsmarathon Mar 14 2022 08:29 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

domino's, of course.

kcmets Mar 14 2022 08:36 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Small Cracker Jacks box would be fun.

smg58 Mar 14 2022 08:38 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Maybe somebody could make a large donation to put the Ukrainian flag on the unis?

Johnny Lunchbucket Mar 14 2022 08:39 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Food: Shake Shack Service: MTA Consumer good: Drakes Yodels Corporate bullshit: MetLife

RealityChuck Mar 14 2022 09:13 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Citibank, obviously. For older fans, https://www.rheingoldbeer.com/

A Boy Named Seo Mar 14 2022 09:21 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

It's so so rare to have a sponsor on a uniform that doesn't make you want to retch. I'd love to see the Metropolitan Museum of Art pony up to be the sponsor. If you could talk them into an alternate color scheme, this would be more than ok, I think. Even if it had to be red, I'm sure folks could live with something like this on breast patch: https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/the-met-art-2-1623255995.jpg?crop=0.502xw:1.00xh;0,0&resize=640:*> Aside from that, Citi comes to mind. JetBlue maybe? Or some other airline? But no one really wants to see those. My long shot: KraneShares. They're a NY-based investment company whose CEO leads the ownership group of USL soccer team Queensboro FC. They've previously paid to have "KraneShares" on soccer kits before, but not sure if they have the buxxx to make the jump from second-tier soccer to MLB. And if things go really sideways: 1-877-Kars-For-Kids...

A Boy Named Seo Mar 14 2022 09:28 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

=smg58 post_id=86992 time=1647268697 user_id=62] Maybe somebody could make a large donation to put the Ukrainian flag on the unis?

Love it, but I'd bet that's super unlikely. FC Barcelona famously eschewed large sponsorship money to put Unicef on the front of their kits. They actually paid Unicef every year and raised a ton of money for them. That (surprisingly) lasted a while, until FCB finally took a shitload of Euros from a Qatari company to be the sponsor.



On a probably related note: FCB is a terribly run organization from a financial standpoint.

kcmets Mar 14 2022 09:48 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

A Boy Named Seo wrote: And if things go really sideways: 1-877-Kars-For-Kids... Just threw a shoe at you, should be there in a day or two...

Willets Point Mar 14 2022 09:58 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

RC Cola

Fman99 Mar 14 2022 10:26 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Mets bullpen to be sponsored by Ipecac

A Boy Named Seo Mar 14 2022 10:56 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

A Boy Named Seo wrote: And if things go really sideways: 1-877-Kars-For-Kids... Just threw a shoe at you, should be there in a day or two... https://media.giphy.com/media/sFMEZ1ZFToyha/giphy.gif>

Edgy MD Mar 14 2022 11:29 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Starting with things that would suck (or suck more than most): [list] [*]Big Pharma [*]Big Oil [*]Oligarch-owned Middle East air carriers [*]Cable or TV programming providers. [/list] I'm assuming they will stay miles away from any brand associated with President Trump, but considering Governor Christie is on the board, that assumption isn't as safe as all that. Big sneaker would kind of suck, too, but it's too good a match to avoid, so it'd probably be something I'd have to get used to, and not all athletic apparel brands are equally evil. I'd kind of be surprised if Under Armor doesn't sign a 10-year deal with the O's. For the Mets, I'm predicting a wacky insurance advertiser — likely GEICO or Progressive — but what I want is perhaps something already orange and/or blue, or based in the outer boroughs. [list] [*]Penguin Books (Penguin Random House) [*]Doubleday Books (Knopf Doubleday) [*]Steinway & Sons [*]Swingline Staplers [*]White Rock Beverages [*]Atavist [*]Etsy [*]Beyond Good. [/list]

A Boy Named Seo Mar 14 2022 11:43 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

I think with Nike the maker's mark on all jerseys, big sneaker is probably unlikely as a sponsor. I hope it's not Big Pharma, but healthcare companies litter the American soccer jersey sponsor landscape. Also with Cohen on board, I guess we shouldn't be surprised if some big-swinging investor outfit like Deloitte or Bear Stearns is the sponsor.

Benjamin Grimm Mar 14 2022 11:54 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Do individual teams choose their uniform sponsors, or is it an MLB-wide thing?

Willets Point Mar 14 2022 12:11 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

If you want local businesses, then look no further than Kandahar Muffler Auto Shop, Volcano Auto Parts, and V.I.P Tire Shop, all ready to serve you in the adjacent Iron Triangle!

A Boy Named Seo Mar 14 2022 12:13 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Do individual teams choose their uniform sponsors, or is it an MLB-wide thing? I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing it's teams fielding offers for the highest bid for a patch ad (like the NBA).

Johnny Lunchbucket Mar 14 2022 12:22 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Do individual teams choose their uniform sponsors, or is it an MLB-wide thing? Yes teams make their own deals and are expected to deliver between $3 million and $10 million a year even though experts target their "worth" in impressions higher than that. I wrote about this topic for work this week, paywalled I think... https://adage.com/article/marketing-news-strategy/new-mlb-deal-brings-sponsor-patches-player-uniforms-first-time/2405451

Fman99 Mar 14 2022 12:29 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Willets Point wrote: If you want local businesses, then look no further than Kandahar Muffler Auto Shop, Volcano Auto Parts, and V.I.P Tire Shop, all ready to serve you in the adjacent Iron Triangle! So wait, the Iron Triangle isn't a metaphor for a female sex robot and her naughty metal bits ?

Lefty Specialist Mar 14 2022 02:28 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Schaefer or Rheingold would have been fun. Alas.

kcmets Mar 14 2022 02:32 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Sinclair is now getting big again in the region, Dino would be fun too if Cracker Jacks doesn't get it done.

MFS62 Mar 14 2022 02:49 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

=kcmets post_id=87041 time=1647289921 user_id=53] Cracker Jacks doesn't get it done.

For the Braves it would.

Later

Marshmallowmilkshake Mar 14 2022 02:55 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Northwell Health is the largest employer on Long Island. Northrop Grumman would be a link to Long Island's vital role in the aerospace industry. We're gonna get Carvel. Fudgie the Whale patch, or one shaped like Cookie Puss. Cookie O'Puss for the St. Patrick's Day game. I guess all are better than some gambling site or casino.

kcmets Mar 14 2022 02:57 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

It's candy coated popcorn. Everything has to be fucking something. Sick of it.

Edgy MD Apr 01 2022 02:30 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

The Cardinals feed I'm watching here has the Bally B as a watermark in the corner of the screen.

Frayed Knot Apr 01 2022 03:00 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Edgy MD wrote: The Cardinals feed I'm watching here has the Bally B as a watermark in the corner of the screen. But that's for the network, not the team. Bally's (a division of somebody, I can't remember now) bought out the regional FOX sports network contracts two seasons back and so now have the local broadcasting rights to around half of all MLB teams.

Edgy MD Apr 01 2022 03:51 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Wow. That just makes me want to develop a gambling addiction and renew my gym membership all at once.

MFS62 Apr 01 2022 05:21 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Either GE, Siemens or Phillips, the three primary manufacturers of MRI equipment, would be logical sponsors for the Mets. Think of all the player testimonials they could use in their commercials. Later

nymr83 Apr 01 2022 09:28 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

=smg58 post_id=86992 time=1647268697 user_id=62] Maybe somebody could make a large donation to put the Ukrainian flag on the unis?

As much as I like this specific idea, I don't like the precedent of getting 'political' on uniforms.

roger_that Apr 02 2022 02:44 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Maybe somebody could make a large donation to put the Ukrainian flag on the unis? As much as I like this specific idea, I don't like the precedent of getting 'political' on uniforms. You got some kind of problem with red "Mets Are Great Again!" caps with white lettering?

whippoorwill Apr 02 2022 03:49 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

=MFS62 post_id=88141 time=1648855296 user_id=60] Either GE, Siemens or Phillips, the three primary manufacturers of MRI equipment, would be logical sponsors for the Mets. Think of all the player testimonials they could use in their commercials. Later

Awesome idea!

Frayed Knot Apr 02 2022 06:34 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Frayed Knot wrote: Edgy MD wrote: The Cardinals feed I'm watching here has the Bally B as a watermark in the corner of the screen. But that's for the network, not the team. Bally's (a division of somebody, I can't remember now) bought out the regional FOX sports network contracts two seasons back and so now have the local broadcasting rights to around half of all MLB teams. When FOX decided to get out of the regional cable sports business Disney was to be the original buyer. But that was negated when it was decided that all those regional channels plus the ESPN monster would represent too much of a monopoly. So when that divesture was ordered 'Sinclair Broadcast Group' and 'Entertainment Studios' became the co-owners of the regional chain of sports networks formerly known as FOX Sports [your area here]. Bally's, it turns out, jumped in as a naming rights partner, something the buyers needed to alleviate debt taken on with the purchase and I'm sure Bally's wanted it for the growing gambling/sports connections. 15 MLB teams (plus a similar percentage of NBA & NHL teams) are broadcast locally by stations* owned and operated by this network while others have outlets that are affiliates. * not SNY, or YES, or NESN. MSG+ & MASN are affiliates

A Boy Named Seo Apr 19 2022 11:24 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

The Padres are the first (I think?) to announce a uni advertiser. It is predictably garish and uggo. [TWEET]https://twitter.com/Padres/status/1516461653692338179[/TWEET]

Benjamin Grimm Apr 19 2022 11:38 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

That video seems to imply that we should be excited about seeing a Motorola patch on the Padres' sleeves. I suppose that's a better place than the front of the jersey, but it takes up real estate typically used for memorials and commemorations. What happens if Nate Colbert dies? Does he get squeezed under the Motorola patch?

Edgy MD Apr 19 2022 11:56 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Motorola US needs to fix their Twitter handle before getting on the Padres uniform. I was trying to figure out if Motorolaus was some sort of German syndicate.

Edgy MD Apr 20 2022 08:34 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Whoah! They'll be able to see that from space. https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/542d990/2147483647/strip/true/crop/5568x3712+0+0/resize/840x560!/format/webp/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalifornia-times-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fe2%2F63%2F30eb46224254943552125a92f9d9%2F20220412-mt-motorolajersey-0066.JPG>

Fman99 Apr 20 2022 08:35 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

That patch sucks almost as much as the virtual ad on the Citi Field mound. Seriously, fuck JustWorks

Edgy MD Apr 20 2022 08:41 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

It always looked to me like a mid-century modern logo for a European national airline. Looking it up, I'm not that far off, as it was introduced in 1955. What it represents — and I wouldn't have guessed this — is a highly stylized M. I think it looks more like a stylized bird's-eye view of someone's cleavage in a cone bra. In the design biz, it's referred to as "the bat-wing logo," which probably pisses Batman off to no end.

Fman99 Apr 20 2022 08:45 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Edgy MD wrote: In the design biz, it's referred to as "the bat-wing logo," which probably pisses Batman off to no end. Also offensive to people whose nutsacks are stuck to the side of their leg, I would think.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 20 2022 09:14 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

I've always been able to clearly see the M in that logo. I don't think the patch itself is ugly (although it could certainly be smaller) the main problem is the fact of it. We're on the slippery slope.

Lefty Specialist Apr 20 2022 09:27 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

They'll look like English soccer uniforms before long.

MFS62 Apr 20 2022 09:34 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Edgy MD wrote: I think it looks more like a stylized bird's-eye view of someone's cleavage in a cone bra. You must have some really fun answers when you take a Rorschach Test. Later

Frayed Knot Apr 20 2022 10:51 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Lefty Specialist wrote: They'll look like English soccer uniforms before long. At least they won't be the same sponsors since MLB would never get in bed with betting sites ... oh wait!

Centerfield Apr 20 2022 11:28 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/08c75ffc-2b17-44a7-ae23-148c8cb95527.499f389a1e6ce3fdcde47a9883fdad33.jpeg?odnHeight=612&odnWidth=612&odnBg=FFFFFF> Hey Mets fans! You're used to getting fucked!

kcmets Apr 20 2022 11:30 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

I hope whatever the Mets choose is 1/3 the size and three-times more tasteful. That Padres Moto-logo is butt ugly and an eyesore.

Willets Point Apr 20 2022 11:53 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/5LcAAOSwmX9fmGD1/s-l300.jpg>

Willets Point Apr 20 2022 11:54 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

https://images.bonanzastatic.com/afu/images/fbd6/5ebd/1328_4922712479/eer_Baseball_New_York_Mets___Rheingold_Beer_A_Hit_Every_Time_NL_Promo_Patch_3.75_x_5.5_in__10.99.jpg>

Edgy MD Apr 20 2022 12:09 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Unfortunately, a lot of the images from this thread have move on, but it's a good starting point.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 20 2022 12:26 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Maybe the Mets can go with a portrait of Joseph P. Guryeb or Giuseppe Franco. We seem to have nostalgia for the Mets sponsors of yore, at least to a degree. Manufacturers Hanover. Dairylea. Schaefer. Rheingold. Garcia y Vega cigars. Will future generations feel the same way about current sponsors? I'm not even sure who they are anymore, since my MLB.tv feed of SNY telecasts overrides the local ads. From what I can tell, the only Mets sponsor seems to be Limu Emu and Doug.

Edgy MD Apr 20 2022 03:19 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

USA Today describes the initial fan reaction as ... negative. [TWEET]https://twitter.com/molly_knight/status/1516490627709505537[/TWEET]

Lefty Specialist Apr 20 2022 03:26 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

If it was half that size, it'd be at least tolerable. And what about companies who don't have a circular logo? Also, would this logo also appear on team store stuff? If so, I might want to get a jersey this year rather than next.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 20 2022 03:52 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

I don't like the idea of advertising on baseball unis, but if I was a Padres fan and in the market for a 2023 Padres jersey next year, I'd get the one with the Motorola patch. I like my jerseys to look just like the ones the players wear, whenever possible. Just my preference.

A Boy Named Seo Apr 06 2023 09:27 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

NewYork-Presbyterian is the sad answer to this question. https://www.mlb.com/news/press-release-new-york-mets-announce-multiyear-partnership-with-newyork-presbyte This is their logo so this will undoubtedly look fucking terrible, however it's presented. [fimg=500]https://www.nyp.org/sites/default/files/2022-12/NYP-Triparty-Logo-White.svg[/fimg]

Bob Alpacadaca Apr 06 2023 10:26 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Very disappointing that they did this. But it could have been a lot worse. Was hoping for Met Life, if they had to go down this path.

metirish Apr 06 2023 10:28 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

NYP is an amazing hospital/ healthcare system, one of NYC largest employers.... Anyway seems a bit odd considering HSS is where they send players ... I think Alex Cohen has ties to NYP

batmagadanleadoff Apr 06 2023 10:31 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Maybe, but that uniform patch is so eff 'n jeff. And just the other day, we were mocking Miami's ADT patch. I'll bet the Yankees don't get a sponsored uni patch.

A Boy Named Seo Apr 06 2023 10:56 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Yeah, the bright red is gonna be more distracting than the baby blue ADT the Marlins have. But I guess drawing the eyes is the point. It's going to harsh the uniform vibes sooooo much. Teams have now been moving the club sleeve logo to the player's non-dominant arm so it's always facing front when they're batting (right-handed hitters have the sponsor patch on their left arm and lefties vice-versa). I wonder if the Mets will do the same. Maybe Lindor will wear NYP patch on both arms.

Frayed Knot Apr 06 2023 11:21 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Isn't this going to be seen as discriminatory towards non-Presbyterians?

batmagadanleadoff Apr 06 2023 11:23 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

A Boy Named Seo wrote: Teams have now been moving the club sleeve logo to the player's non-dominant arm so it's always facing front when they're batting (right-handed hitters have the sponsor patch on their left arm and lefties vice-versa). Really? I did not know that. So the same team will have its logo on both the right and left sleeves, depending on the player? Which teams did that?

A Boy Named Seo Apr 06 2023 11:30 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

A Boy Named Seo wrote: Teams have now been moving the club sleeve logo to the player's non-dominant arm so it's always facing front when they're batting (right-handed hitters have the sponsor patch on their left arm and lefties vice-versa). Really? I did not know that. So the same team will have its logo on both the right and left sleeves, depending on the player? Which teams did that? Per Uniwatch: To make matters worse, the positioning of the uniform ads will be non-uniform. In order to maximize TV exposure, some players will wear the ads on the left sleeve and others on the right, depending on whether they bat or pitch left-handed or right-handed. (Switch-hitters will apparently be issued two jerseys and wear the appropriate one based on the opposing team's starting pitcher.) [FIMG=500]https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd81a4c92-90d1-44de-9a29-c299655364c7_1456x928.webp[/FIMG]

Frayed Knot Apr 06 2023 11:43 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

The price for sponsor shoulder patches in tennis were always different for each side with the non-dominant shoulder, the one facing the camera during serves, being more expensive.

metirish Apr 06 2023 11:48 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

I noticed this in the Marlins series, the ADT was always seen on TV with the pitcher or the hitter ... EPL teams started doing this a few seasons back too

G-Fafif Apr 06 2023 12:08 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Both the Mets and MFYs have played home games at the Polo Grounds, at Shea Stadium and at Citi Field. Now they both have a Hilltop Park connection. https://www.hmdb.org/m.asp?m=134519

Edgy MD Apr 06 2023 12:15 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

I guess the logo can be rendered in a Met color or colors, but I would guess it won't. Kinda stinks to have a nightly reminder of how we have commodified health care.

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 06 2023 01:34 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

If it's red I'm going to die. Also they better not eff up Lazy Mary but it looks like they want to

Fman99 Apr 06 2023 01:48 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

These patches should all be spots to sell Ipecac because they make me wanna retch

bmfc1 Apr 06 2023 03:52 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

If you can prove that you are a Presbyterian that lives in New York you get in free.

G-Fafif Apr 06 2023 03:56 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

[tweet]https://twitter.com/mets/status/1644092809920610304[/tweet]

A Boy Named Seo Apr 06 2023 03:57 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

That is so so bad. I'm happy it's not red? But why can't it be a rectangle that just borders the stupid logo and not that huge square. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

metirish Apr 06 2023 04:00 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

That looks awful, wow , epic fail

Gwreck Apr 06 2023 04:22 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

What is wrong with the people approving this? How much revenue could this possibly generate such that they needed to desecrate the jerseys?

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 06 2023 04:58 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

The price for these is something like a stadium naming rights deal, is what I was told. It is awful and ugly

batmagadanleadoff Apr 06 2023 05:38 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

[tweet]https://twitter.com/mets/status/1644092809920610304[/tweet] That patch -- on a Mets jersey -- is like Wilpons' Citi Field scoreboards level of ugly. Are the Yankees the only fucking team out there that knows how to name its stadium and what to with these sponsored uni patches? Jeez. What's the point of having 17 billion dollars if you're gonna tacky it up?

whippoorwill Apr 06 2023 07:49 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: The price for these is something like a stadium naming rights deal, is what I was told. It is awful and ugly Are you saying what I think you're saying?

Edgy MD Apr 06 2023 09:33 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

It's awful ugly. You don't want to overthink these things, but you sure want somebody else to, and those inches of empty real estate makes both partners look indifferent.

Fman99 Apr 07 2023 06:01 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

[tweet]https://twitter.com/mets/status/1644092809920610304[/tweet] It's not even that it's ghastly, which it is. It's that they're proud to announce it. I get it that they're proud partners, and why wouldn't you be. I'm sure they do amazing work at NYP. But they should not be proud that someone smeared a red polygon of shit on their classic blue and orange jerseys. That's the travesty.

Frayed Knot Apr 07 2023 06:01 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

A Boy Named Seo wrote: But why can't it be a rectangle that just borders the stupid logo and not that huge square. No doubt because a maximum size limit was put on these things (y'know, to keep them from looking gaudy and ugly) but, as often happens in these deals, 'maximum' gets translated into 'minimum' so extra vertical space is needed to fill out the very horizontal looking logo.

Fman99 Apr 07 2023 06:11 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Someone should take that logo to NYP and give it gastric bypass surgery because it's bloated to an unhealthy size and no one wants to look at it.

Methead Apr 07 2023 06:22 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

I can't stop thinking it looks like blood soaking through a hastily-applied bandage.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 07 2023 06:38 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Strange that 1,800 people loved it. I guess in the New York metropolitan area, and in the wider universe of Mets fans, you can find 1,800 people with no taste. I bet most of the 2,000 replies are negative.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 07 2023 06:38 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

=Methead post_id=121651 time=1680870147 user_id=61] I can't stop thinking it looks like blood soaking through a hastily-applied bandage.

I'll never stop seeing that now. Thanks!

Edgy MD Apr 07 2023 07:00 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

We're so excited by this patch that we couldn't find a single person willing to model it.

G-Fafif Apr 07 2023 07:04 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

I can't stop thinking it looks like blood soaking through a hastily-applied bandage. In 2005, MLB supported Hurricane Katrina recovery efforts with a Red Cross symbol on its batting helmets. Well-intentioned as it was, it gave me the sense that every hitter was injured in World War I. https://farm9.static.flickr.com/8073/8276945561_cd310f6a52_o.png>

kcmets Apr 07 2023 07:06 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

It's not a patch, it's a freakin' billboard. If I have a heart attack at home this holiday weekend my local medical facility is a NYP hospital. If I'm conscience, I'm asking the ambulance to cart me down the line a Northwell Health affiliate in protest. So there.

Gwreck Apr 07 2023 07:36 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: The price for these is something like a stadium naming rights deal, is what I was told. It is awful and ugly Side note, why does a hospital (1) need to pay millions of dollars a year to advertise and (2) could that money be used to, you know, treat sick people? This is awful all around.

metirish Apr 07 2023 07:40 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/SNY_Mets/status/1644333130981974016[/TWEET] Ugh, let's make sure we get the awful patch in

kcmets Apr 07 2023 07:54 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

They didn't waste much time!

Edgy MD Apr 07 2023 08:04 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

That's a new number for Álvarez. I can tell because it's almost as big as the New York Presbyterian patch.

G-Fafif Apr 07 2023 08:12 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: The price for these is something like a stadium naming rights deal, is what I was told. It is awful and ugly Side note, why does a hospital (1) need to pay millions of dollars a year to advertise and (2) could that money be used to, you know, treat sick people? This is awful all around. Was thinking about this last night, specifically how many NYP patients could get treatment on the house if the ad rights fee was applied as such. Then again, if we're all doing sponsored jumping jacks during the 7th inning stretch, our cardiovascular systems won't require medical care.

metirish Apr 07 2023 08:36 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

As an aside for years NYP has had slogans like " Amazing things happen here " I'm sure both sides are giddy at the prospects for crossover ads

Methead Apr 07 2023 08:48 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I can't stop thinking it looks like blood soaking through a hastily-applied bandage. I'll never stop seeing that now. Thanks! "Coming up next on SNY Sportsnite, we're approaching the All-Star break and your New York Mets are currently mired in a hopeless 8 game losing streak. Can this team lean on Verlander try and stop the bleeding? But first a word from our sponsor."

batmagadanleadoff Apr 07 2023 09:11 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Presbyterian! Sheesh! Whatever happened to separation of church and baseball?

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 07 2023 09:53 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/TylerKepner/status/1644363080069947395[/TWEET]

metirish Apr 07 2023 09:54 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Steve likely saw what the fans were saying

batmagadanleadoff Apr 07 2023 10:00 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

=metirish post_id=121671 time=1680882863 user_id=72] Steve likely saw what the fans were saying

I had a strong feeling yeseterday that something like this would happen.

A Boy Named Seo Apr 07 2023 10:01 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: The price for these is something like a stadium naming rights deal, is what I was told. It is awful and ugly Side note, why does a hospital (1) need to pay millions of dollars a year to advertise and (2) could that money be used to, you know, treat sick people? This is awful all around. Was thinking about this last night, specifically how many NYP patients could get treatment on the house if the ad rights fee was applied as such. Then again, if we're all doing sponsored jumping jacks during the 7th inning stretch, our cardiovascular systems won't require medical care. All of this. Tying this back to soccer and their longstanding use of on-shirt sponsorships, I eyeballed my favorite league (USL Championship, second tier American soccer) and there are 8(!!!) health care companies as front-of-shirt sponsors. MLS (first tier of American soccer) has 7! I checked the English Premier League and there are lots of airlines and online betting companies, but zero health care sponsors. Also zero in La Liga in Spain. Same goes for the Bundesliga in Germany and Ligue 1 in France, too. No health care sponsors in the top 4 soccer leagues in the world because heath care isn't the privatized, for-profit monster it tragically is in the US. Sickening is the pun I'm looking for.

Edgy MD Apr 07 2023 10:04 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

I appreciate Steve Cohen not doubling down on a bad choice, but how did this not come up before Opening Day? Act, don't react.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 07 2023 10:05 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

So with these new sponsored patches hogging up the real estate on one sleeve, I wonder if this trend will lead to less of those one-year-only commemorative patches, like for example, stuff like this: [FIMG=177]https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0330/9935/0060/products/new-york-mets-25th-anniversary-patch.jpg?v=1582835376&width=990[/FIMG] or this [FIMG=177]https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0330/9935/0060/products/new-york-mets-50th-anniversary-patch.jpg?v=1585068950&width=990[/FIMG] Where would they put them?

batmagadanleadoff Apr 07 2023 10:07 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Edgy MD wrote: I appreciate Steve Cohen not doubling down on a bad choice, but how did this not come up before Opening Day? Because maybe that was the preferred patch and they had a backup plan in case of a very bad fan reaction.

A Boy Named Seo Apr 07 2023 10:17 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

So with these new sponsored patches hogging up the real estate on one sleeve, I wonder if this trend will lead to less of those one-year-only commemorative patches, like for example, stuff like this: [FIMG=177]https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0330/9935/0060/products/new-york-mets-25th-anniversary-patch.jpg?v=1582835376&width=990[/FIMG] or this [FIMG=177]https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0330/9935/0060/products/new-york-mets-50th-anniversary-patch.jpg?v=1585068950&width=990[/FIMG] Where would they put them? Some teams have been stacking two patches (club patch on the bottom, in-memoriam patch above, for example), but it looks predictably clunky.

Marshmallowmilkshake Apr 07 2023 10:33 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

https://content.sportslogos.net/news/2023/02/FBM-Patch-Angels-2023-sportslogosnet.jpg> The Mets should change the colors and the shape. The Angels did it better, with a rectangle logo in a rectangle patch.

metirish Apr 07 2023 10:37 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/nyphospital/status/1644373663666380800[/TWEET]

Edgy MD Apr 07 2023 12:13 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Edgy MD wrote: I appreciate Steve Cohen not doubling down on a bad choice, but how did this not come up before Opening Day? Because maybe that was the preferred patch and they had a backup plan in case of a very bad fan reaction. That's still reacting. Steve's this great art collector, I hear. The idea that this aesthetically inept rendering that damages multiple brands was considered and chosen among several options by design and branding professionals operating in a well functioning organization is ... not an encouraging thought. I just think we live in a world without leadership. We're all toadies, and if any toady on the Mets or NYP payroll got the notion that somebody above him or herself was way off in patch design and deployment, he or she kept it to him- or herself. Doing something we know sucks while hoping nobody cares, and then going with Plan B and hoping folks quickly forget, is certainly no less deflating. I'd like to take a moment to apologize for everything I ever said, wrote, or thought about the Citi Field logo.

Edgy MD Apr 07 2023 07:46 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Mets undefeated in the Blood-Soaking-Through-a-Hastily-Applied-Bandage Era. [fimg=500]https://storage.googleapis.com/afs-prod/media/12a6860aba4d4d74add6a6aa7eb43ea5/3000.jpeg[/fimg]

batmagadanleadoff Apr 07 2023 08:20 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

That patch is bigger than the Mets skyline logo patch. The team should change its name to the New York Presbyterians.

Frayed Knot Apr 08 2023 04:26 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=121725 time=1680920425 user_id=68] The team should change its name to the New York Presbyterians.

It might help them increase attendance from the all-important Scottish-American demographic.

Edgy MD Apr 08 2023 02:25 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

It's completely indecipherable from the center field camera. It looks like a mistake, which I guess is kinda what it is.

metirish Apr 08 2023 03:23 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Funnily enough I am not noticing the awful NYPD patch on these uniforms as much as I am the ADT on the Marlins, I'm sure the NYP patch will stick out more on the road uni and the black uni

batmagadanleadoff Apr 11 2023 11:39 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

They should have velcro on the NYPresb patches. This way, the switch-hitters could switch-patch-sleeves when they switch batting sides in mid-game. Then viewers would always have a good view of the NYPresb patch.

MFS62 Apr 11 2023 11:45 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=122060 time=1681234788 user_id=68] They should have velcro on the NYPresb patches. This way, the switch-hitters could switch-patch-sleeves when they switch batting sides in mid-game. Then viewers would always have a good view of the NYPresb patch.

That's not bending over backwards to advertise a business partner. That's just bending over.

Later

batmagadanleadoff Apr 11 2023 11:51 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=122060 time=1681234788 user_id=68] They should have velcro on the NYPresb patches. This way, the switch-hitters could switch-patch-sleeves when they switch batting sides in mid-game. Then viewers would always have a good view of the NYPresb patch.

But then what would happen when they switch from the center field camera to the behind-home-plate camera? That would screw up the viewers' view of the NYPresb patch.



Here's a solution. Instead of NYPersby patches, they could just hologram the NYPresby patch so that it's always seen on TV. Like those ads that TV viewers see but aren't really there. Of course, then fans attending the game in person won't see the hologramed patch. The solution for that is to make fans in attendance wear special glasses like the 3D movies glasses of the 50s -- only these stadium glasses would make the hologram visible and then the fans could see the patch too. It'd work for outfield wall ads too. Instead of real ads, the ads would be hologrammed. Then they could change ads coinstantly and teams could get more sponsors in there, too. And a sucky team like the Pirates, they could hologram their past star players to replace their current active players. A hologram of Willie Stargell blasting a tape-measure HR followed by a back-to-backer by Barry Bonds. I guess they could hologram the scoreboard to make up a winning score, too. The possibilities are endless.

stevejrogers Apr 11 2023 11:55 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

=metirish post_id=121796 time=1680988995 user_id=72] Funnily enough I am not noticing the awful NYPD patch on these uniforms as much as I am the ADT on the Marlins, I'm sure the NYP patch will stick out more on the road uni and the black uni

Don't give them any ideas on 9/11 memorial day! There's been enough “controversies” with first responder organization caps over years!



;)

metirish Apr 11 2023 11:56 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Ugh, it keeps auto correcting NYP to NYPD

Benjamin Grimm Apr 11 2023 12:12 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Any word on when the new patches will be revealed?

batmagadanleadoff Apr 11 2023 12:34 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Six years to go before the Citi Field naming rights contract ends. If Cohen's still around, he should do the right thing and name the stadium Mets Stadium. (If he really wants to be like the Dodgers. (And the Yankees, though he's smart enough not to openly admit that part.))

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 11 2023 01:00 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Any word on when the new patches will be revealed? No but I'm bidding on the old ones to replenish my beach towel supply

whippoorwill Apr 11 2023 01:20 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Lol!

batmagadanleadoff Apr 12 2023 12:05 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=122069 time=1681238040 user_id=68] Six years to go before the Citi Field naming rights contract ends. If Cohen's still around, he should do the right thing and name the stadium Mets Stadium. (If he really wants to be like the Dodgers. (And the Yankees, though he's smart enough not to openly admit that part.))

Unless Cohen's got ideas for something brand new altogether. I mean, that humongous new scoreboard is a beaut -- but it's been obviously shoehorned into the space, which wasn't meant for a scoreboard that big. Sigh. Citi Field looks like it was originally designed by a 10 year old.

MFS62 Apr 12 2023 12:57 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=122163 time=1681322714 user_id=68] Citi Field looks like it was originally designed by a 10 year old.

Jeff Wilpon? I can't imagine him doing anything big.

Later

Edgy MD Apr 12 2023 02:14 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

A strange thing is that the Mets seem to now be in bed with multiple healthcare organizations — [list] [*]NY Presbyterian, [*]Northwell Health (parent of Long Island Jewish and the Katz Women's Center), [*]Catholic Health (at some level, I think), and [*]The Hospital for Special Surgery (affiliated with NY-Pres, I think, but not under their umbrella). [/list]

MFS62 Apr 12 2023 02:28 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Edgy MD wrote: A strange thing is that the Mets seem to now be in bed with multiple healthcare organizations — [list] [*]NY Presbyterian, [*]Northwell Health (parent of Long Island Jewish and the Katz Women's Center), [*]Catholic Health (at some level, I think), and [*]The Hospital for Special Surgery (affiliated with NY-Pres, I think, but not under their umbrella). [/list] The only one I remember them actually using is the Hospital for Special Surgery. The others may just be sponsors. No? Later

Edgy MD Apr 12 2023 02:52 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Sponsors and beneficiaries, sure. All are professional relationships.

metirish Apr 12 2023 02:59 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

HSS is a member of the NYP healthcare system, I know this as years ago my son's cardiologist sent us to HSS when we needed to see a spine specialist , although I think the main affiliation is with Weill Cornell, which is of course part of NYP

batmagadanleadoff Apr 12 2023 03:13 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

No problem. There's still plenty of room for more medical institution patches bigger than your head on the Msts uni. On the front. On the back. Under the Mets wordmark. Between the buttons. And over the ass. That's just for starters. Just, please, not in Phillies red.

MFS62 Apr 12 2023 03:19 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=122206 time=1681333984 user_id=68] No problem. There's still plenty of room for more medical institution patches bigger than your head on the Msts uni. On the front. On the back. Under the Mets wordmark. Between the buttons. And over the ass. That's just for starters. Just, please, not in Phillies red.

I'd rather they advertise medical facilities rather than have to use them.

Later

batmagadanleadoff Apr 12 2023 03:29 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

=MFS62 post_id=122207 time=1681334387 user_id=60] =batmagadanleadoff post_id=122206 time=1681333984 user_id=68] No problem. There's still plenty of room for more medical institution patches bigger than your head on the Msts uni. On the front. On the back. Under the Mets wordmark. Between the buttons. And over the ass. That's just for starters. Just, please, not in Phillies red.

I'd rather they advertise medical facilities rather than have to use them.

Later


And I'd rather have dinner tonight in a five star restaurant instead of having root canal surgery performed on me by Uncle Fester and without any anesthesia.



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metirish Apr 14 2023 07:46 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets? Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 14 2023 08:18 PM

The awful patch looks worse on the road unis

Edgy MD Apr 14 2023 08:16 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

No sponsor on the Athletics' sleeves?

metirish Apr 14 2023 08:18 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Edgy MD wrote: No sponsor on the Athletics' sleeves? Noticed that, I guess who would waste their $$ ?

Frayed Knot Apr 17 2023 09:50 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Among all the other issues, those patches look like they'd be uncomfortable to wear by making the sleeve stiff.

Edgy MD Apr 17 2023 10:09 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

No doubt. Also, nothing but the LA insignia on the Dodgers' sleeves.

A Boy Named Seo Apr 18 2023 09:43 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Edgy MD wrote: No doubt. Also, nothing but the LA insignia on the Dodgers' sleeves. I thought the Dodgers removed the "LA" paving the way for Staples or Planet Hollywood to take its place.

Edgy MD Apr 18 2023 10:03 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

It was there last night.

A Boy Named Seo Apr 18 2023 10:23 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Edgy MD wrote: It was there last night. Ah I missed that. They were going without in spring and folks (and me) were assuming the worst. https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/dodgers-make-small-change-to-uniforms-after-more-than-20-years-as-other-teams-introduce-ads-on-jerseys/

G-Fafif Apr 25 2023 02:47 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Take two… [tweet]https://twitter.com/timbritton/status/1650952525921546254[/tweet]

Benjamin Grimm Apr 25 2023 02:50 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Much better. It would be better if it wasn't there, but if it has to be, this is much better than the original.

Methead Apr 25 2023 02:50 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Works for me.

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 25 2023 02:51 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

That was a genius way of getting us to take this affront.

MFS62 Apr 25 2023 03:23 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Not bad. Not too good, either. But not bad. I'd have to see the size. Later

Gwreck Apr 25 2023 06:11 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: That was a genius way of getting us to take this affront. Exactly. Everybody's caught up in how it was made better without recognizing how awful it is from a baseline.

Edgy MD Apr 25 2023 06:26 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Presumably into perpetuity, we'll now be able to identify any relevant photos as definitively coming from April 2023.

kcmets Apr 25 2023 06:34 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

New patch > old patch. It would be better if Presbyterian was spelled wrong, 'cause who the fuck looks at the ad patch anyways after once or twice glances. Who buys something because of baseball stadium ads? I don't.

Edgy MD Apr 25 2023 06:37 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

I'm really embarrassed about my basement filled wall-to-wall with Peerless Boilers.

Frayed Knot Apr 25 2023 06:41 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

You should see all the Old Dominion trucks I've bought.

kcmets Apr 25 2023 07:53 PM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

=kcmets post_id=123482 time=1682469249 user_id=53] once or twice glances.

That's some grammar there.

Fman99 Apr 26 2023 07:31 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Edgy MD wrote: I'm really embarrassed about my basement filled wall-to-wall with Peerless Boilers. I laughed so hard when I read this that I spewed my Bigelow tea everywhere

MFS62 Apr 26 2023 07:48 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

=kcmets post_id=123482 time=1682469249 user_id=53] Who buys something because of baseball stadium ads?

Especially Medical Products or Services.

In full disclosure, I do drink Bigelow tea, but was drinking it years before I saw the ads.

Later

kcmets Apr 26 2023 08:41 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

I love Howie, but "tea proudly" is pretty god damn lame imho.

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 26 2023 09:04 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

He didn't write that shit. I do like how Howie goes out of character and gets pumped up on Bigelow, "refuses to settle" when you know irl Hoeie would drink any tea that paid him.

Edgy MD Apr 26 2023 09:25 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

I just like (and my wife totally cracks up at) the idea of it being August 8 and 104 degrees out and Howie can't wait to get to the ballpark to boil up a refreshing cup of hot tea.

A Boy Named Seo Apr 26 2023 09:41 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: That was a genius way of getting us to take this affront. Exactly. Everybody's caught up in how it was made better without recognizing how awful it is from a baseline. thisthisthisthisthisthisthis Branding has become so stupidly ubiquitous in sports that people were actually livid when the STAPLES™ Center in LA was re-named because they allowed the brand to be synonymous with the Lakers like it was Magic Fucking Johnson Arena or something.

kcmets Apr 26 2023 10:18 AM Re: Who should sponsor the Mets?

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: He didn't write that shit. I know, and I'm not looking to make a tea thing. I'm a Twinings guy, when I tea up. Earl Grey.