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Tommy Davis 1939-2022

Met Hunter Apr 04 2022 11:46 AM

https://www.mlb.com/news/tommy-davis-dies-at-83

Edgy MD Apr 04 2022 11:51 AM Re: Tommy Davis 1939-2022

Outstanding Mets offensive player of 1967. Bing Devine moved him while he was hot and made him a centerpiece of the deal for Tommie Agee and Al Weis, which ultimately turned out to be kind of a big deal. (OE: Looking it up, that trade may not belong on Devine's ledger, as it apparently happened two weeks after Devine traded himself back to the Cardinals.)

Benjamin Grimm Apr 04 2022 12:06 PM Re: Tommy Davis 1939-2022

Was the 40th oldest living Met at the time of his death. He only entered the Top Forty a couple of weeks ago when Bill Short died. His spot in the Top Forty now goes to Bob Hendley.

G-Fafif Apr 04 2022 12:43 PM Re: Tommy Davis 1939-2022

1967 was a legit comeback year for Davis, who'd been hampered by injuries since being one of the NL's best players in 1962 and 1963. And when you can garner any kind of MVP support for a team that lost more than 100 games, you must be doing something right. The Edwin Jackson of his day as well in that he played everywhere, man, sense.

seawolf17 Apr 04 2022 12:58 PM Re: Tommy Davis 1939-2022

=G-Fafif post_id=88331 time=1649097828 user_id=55]The Edwin Jackson of his day as well in that he played everywhere, man, sense.

In fact, he's pictured with seven different teams on Topps cards in seven years, then two more after missing the 1973 set:

1966: Dodgers

1967: Mets

1968: White Sox

1969: Pilots

1970: Astros

1971: Cubs

1972: A's

1973: (not in the set)

1974-76: Orioles

1977: Royals

batmagadanleadoff Apr 04 2022 01:15 PM Re: Tommy Davis 1939-2022

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roger_that Apr 04 2022 02:26 PM Re: Tommy Davis 1939-2022

Tremendous Dodger, tragic injury wrecked a HoF career, involved in two trades that were pivotal in Mets' history, first the trading-off of two Mets (Hunt and Hickman) who were respectively their first legitimate star and the last Original Met, and second the acquisition of Agee, without whom I don't think there is a 1969 Worlds Championship team, in between which he had a solid 1967 season for the Mets, a comeback player of the year-type year, though I don't think they had that award at the time. Brooklyn native, and a mensch in getting what Bouton was about on the Seattle Pilots. Very under-rated talent, coulda been one of the all-time greats.

MFS62 Apr 04 2022 04:42 PM Re: Tommy Davis 1939-2022

This news made me sad. RIP Later

Edgy MD Apr 04 2022 09:10 PM Re: Tommy Davis 1939-2022

Hits in a Season by a Dodger 1) Babe Herman (1930): 241 2) Tommy Davis (1962): 230 3) Zack Wheat (1925): 221 4) Lefty O'Doul (1932): 219 5) Babe Herman (1929): 217 6) Willie Keeler (1899): 216 7) Zack Wheat (1924): 212 8) Steve Sax (1986): 210 9) Steve Garvey (1975): 210 10) Maury Wills (1962): 208

G-Fafif Apr 06 2022 05:39 PM Re: Tommy Davis 1939-2022

A heartfelt appreciation of Tommy Davis's 1967 Mets season and Tommy Davis's 1967 Mets card here.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 06 2022 06:13 PM Re: Tommy Davis 1939-2022

A heartfelt appreciation of Tommy Davis's 1967 Mets season and Tommy Davis's 1967 Mets card here. Great piece. I can read your stuff (and Jason's) about major leaguers that played for the Mets before I was old enough to be paying attention all day long. Give me five or 10 paragraphs on, say, Carl Willey, and I'm totally there. Also reminded me of this one, which I had forgotten when I posted a few posts earlier: [FIMG=444]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51987937710_5f8d7e77b5_z.jpg[/FIMG]

G-Fafif Apr 06 2022 07:14 PM Re: Tommy Davis 1939-2022

Thank you. And the Tommy Davis Experience is undeniably groovy.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 11 2022 04:35 PM Re: Tommy Davis 1939-2022

Thank you. And the Tommy Davis Experience is undeniably groovy. Forgot this one, too. [FIMG=555]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49669844193_031f02bee6_c.jpg[/FIMG]

roger_that Apr 17 2022 08:06 AM Re: Tommy Davis 1939-2022

Some late additions to this thread on the post-Mets phase of Davis's career. Someone (elsewhere) wanted to know why Davis was traded so often in the latter half of his career, and it was suggested that he basically wasnt a good MLB player anymore, though he was still perceived as such. He was still a .280 hitter, which people took to mean "He could still hit," but that was all he could do, hit singles basically, and not that far above the average major league hitter. Couldn't run. couldn't field, couldn't for power, couldn't draw walks. Basically useless. I ran his numbers from his last 9 MLB seasons i.e., after he left the Mets, which conveniently enough is the halfway point of his 18-year major league career. And it turns out to be true, pretty much. The first thing that got me was that his one year with the Mets, as measured by OPS+, was actually his third-best seasonal score, 125, and measured by Total Bases was tied for second, 254, with his second Dodgers batting title year. So 1967 measures, in several senses, his last truly good major league season. We swapped him out for parts at just the right moment, and we got some very crucial parts back in exchange for him. But after 1967, he really was mediocre at best for the next nine years. Over that period, he got over a thousand hits, bouncing around the AL (plus 379 ABs with the Cubs and Stros) and batted .284 over that period. But that was it. On a seasonal basis (162 games) he averaged 9 HRs and 31 walks, so no walks and no power, basically, and he was notoriously slow and a poor fielder. His OPS+ over those nine years was 98, meaning that apart from his fielding and running, he was slightly below MLB average. So that .284 BA was what kept him on major league rosters for nine years. He was thought to have been a veteran leader in those years as well. So the Mets squeezed the last drops of very productive juice out of Tommy D. and let him go at exactly the right time. Bring this up whenever someone says that hte Mets got nothing but "screwed" in their deals.