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Slapstick Comedy: Will Smith v Chris Rock


Chris Rock 2 votes

Will Smith 14 votes

batmagadanleadoff
Mar 29 2022 01:40 PM

Whose side are you on? Me, put me down for what Jim Carrey said. I'd also strip Smith of his Oscar so long as there's no rule or by-law preventing that.


“I was sickened,” the Liar Liar actor, 60, said during a Tuesday, March 29, appearance on CBS Mornings. “I was sickened by the standing ovation [when Will later won the Academy Award for best actor]. I felt like Hollywood is just spineless en masse. It really felt like, ‘Oh, this is a really clear indication that we're not the cool club anymore.”



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Rock ultimately didn't press charges against Smith following the incident, but Carrey told Gayle King that the Ali star “should have been” arrested. “He doesn't want the hassle,” the Truman Show star said, theorizing as to why the Grown Ups actor didn't go to the LAPD. “I'd have announced this morning that I was suing Will for $200 million, because that video is gonna be there forever, it's gonna be ubiquitous. That insult is gonna last a very long time.”

Will Smith and Chris Rock's 2022 Oscars Incident: Everything to Know



The Canada native went on to say that it's OK to “yell from the audience” if you don't approve of a joke, but “you do not have the right to walk up on stage and smack somebody in the face because they said words.” King, 67, argued that the incident “escalated” to that level, but Carrey disagreed.



“It didn't escalate,” he said. “It came out of nowhere, because Will has something going on inside him that's frustrated. I wish him the best, I really do. I don't have anything against Will Smith. He's done great things. But that was not a good moment. It cast a pall over everybody's shining moment.”



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“A lot of people worked really hard to get to that place and to have their moment in the sun, to get their award for the really hard work they did,” the Ace Ventura star told King. “It is no mean feat to go through all the stuff you have to go through when you're nominated for an Oscar. It's a gauntlet of devotion that you have to do. It was just a selfish moment that cast a pall over the whole thing.”






https://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/jim-carrey-i-would-have-sued-will-smith-for-200m-after-slap/

Johnny Lunchbucket
Mar 29 2022 01:41 PM
Re: Slapstick Comedy: Will Smith v Chris Rock

If this isn't a shutout I'll slap you

Willets Point
Mar 29 2022 01:45 PM
Re: Slapstick Comedy: Will Smith v Chris Rock


Rock ultimately didn't press charges against Smith following the incident, but Carrey told Gayle King that the Ali star “should have been” arrested. “He doesn't want the hassle,” the Truman Show star said, theorizing as to why the Grown Ups actor didn't go to the LAPD.




Gee, Jim, I can think of a lot of reasons why a Black man would not want the LA-Fucking-PD involved in a personal beef with another Black man. I guess you were too stoned playing Fire Marshall Bill to let any consciousness of the Black experience seep into your brain back in the day.

batmagadanleadoff
Mar 29 2022 01:46 PM
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Reminder: youse are supposed to vote for the person who was in the wrong, not in the right. I screwed up at first before I changed my vote to the correct choice. And I wrote this poll.

Edgy MD
Mar 29 2022 01:55 PM
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The Interwebs has sure felt like one big Smith-Rock Take Machine the last day and a half. I had a dozen takes of my own pop into my head, but they all just made it feel sadder and stupider, so I'm just letting this one play itself out.

kcmets
Mar 29 2022 02:37 PM
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Now, this is a story all about how

My life got flipped-turned upside down




If I was as funny as Chris Rock I'd be tossing and turning in

bed that night coming up with one-liners to follow up the slap.

I shoulda said this, I shoulda said that...



I have a few but won't hijack the poll.

Frayed Knot
Mar 29 2022 03:27 PM
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Johnny Lunchbucket wrote:

If this isn't a shutout I'll slap you


NYP: "The Blue Rose Research poll found that 52.3% of people blamed Rock for the incident, compared to 47.7% who said Smith was out of line, according to a report published by Mediaite.com on Tuesday."






The Interwebs has sure felt like one big Smith-Rock Take Machine the last day and a half


So much so that I didn't find out until a few hours ago which flick took home Best Picture

Normally that would be the story of the night.

Willets Point
Mar 29 2022 03:33 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:

So much so that I didn't find out until a few hours ago which flick took home Best Picture

Normally that would be the story of the night.

Instead the announcement of the Best Picture became just a coda.

Edgy MD
Mar 29 2022 04:15 PM
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Rock ultimately didn't press charges against Smith following the incident, but Carrey told Gayle King that the Ali star “should have been” arrested. “He doesn't want the hassle,” the Truman Show star said, theorizing as to why the Grown Ups actor didn't go to the LAPD.


I thought it notable that US magazine has to use the actors' credits sort of as pronouns, working three film titles into the sentence despite them being mostly irrelevant (and a total of 57 years old) to the story. (Ali is sorta kinda maybe accidentally relevant.)

whippoorwill
Mar 29 2022 07:13 PM
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They are both assholes in my book.



Chris Rock should never had made Will's wife the butt of a bad joke.



Will Smith should not have shouted expletives at him, although I can understand his rage.



In a way I don't know what else he could have done though to defend his wife.





BTW I thought King Richard was about King Richard until this happened.



Voting for Chris Rock as the bigger asshole

Fman99
Mar 29 2022 08:41 PM
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I'll quote my own tweet on this topic. "The thing about the Oscars that saddens me is how accepting American society is towards aggression and how violence has been normalized. I think there was a time where someone who did that would face legitimate consequences and not have the whole thing glossed over and meme'd up."



Chris Rock is there to make jokes and poke fun at zillionaires. He's not in the wrong, except perhaps in being in bad taste. Hardly an uncommon trait in a comic paid to entertain.



I put this fully on Will Smith. His excuse at the acceptance speech, you know, "love makes you do crazy things," is not accurate. This is not a crazy thing. It's a violent thing. Big difference there. This is OJ territory. They should take his Oscar away and ban him from any subsequent participation or recognition.

Edgy MD
Mar 29 2022 09:24 PM
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I don't see that statue being taken away.



That academy isn't run by cops. It's run by the Fresh Prince's fencing club buddies.

DocTee
Mar 30 2022 05:43 AM
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He should have gone on stage, asked "do you think it's funny to make light of my wife's medical condition" and demand that he apologize right then and there in front of everyone....and if not, well...

Centerfield
Mar 30 2022 01:04 PM
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Did Chris Rock know it was a medical condition? How can we be sure? I certainly didn't. Without that knowledge, the GI Jane joke is as benign as they come.



In any case, it's a no brainer. You don't get to go up and smack a stand up comedian. And in this case, it's particularly bad. Chris Rock told a joke. Will Smith laughed, Jada Pinkett did not. At some point, Jada must have expressed her displeasure to Will, who then felt compelled to go up and defend his wife. She was practically beaming afterwards.



All very, very sad.



And the room giving him a standing ovation. Bad look for everyone. It's never been more apparent that everyone in that room is full of shit.

Lefty Specialist
Mar 31 2022 06:45 AM
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This basically gives license to anybody who doesn't like a joke to commit violence. Good thing Don Rickles is already dead.

MFS62
Mar 31 2022 07:49 AM
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A woman I know on Facebook is a spokesperson and worker (and past victim) for several familial abuse agencies.

This was on her FB page:

To people who say that was terrible, they have to think what they would do if someone made fun of your wife's illness in front of millions of people.

It was an extreme response but people are fragile and frayed right now. Words should be chosen carefully.


Later

Edgy MD
Apr 01 2022 07:46 AM
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I'm still seeing so many hot takes on this that it's become it's own medium.



We need to have an awards show for Best and Worst Chris Rock Will Smith Awards Show hot takes.

Willets Point
Apr 01 2022 12:09 PM
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Would it be fair to say that the marks on Rock's cheek are fresh prints?

MFS62
Apr 01 2022 12:43 PM
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Willets Point wrote:

Would it be fair to say that the marks on Rock's cheek are fresh prints?


OOOOOHHHHH!

Good one.

Later

MFS62
Apr 01 2022 05:35 PM
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Will Smith just resigned from the Motion Picture Academy.

https://variety.com/2022/film/news/will-smith-resigns-academy-oscars-slap-chris-rock-1235221041/



Later

Willets Point
Apr 01 2022 05:36 PM
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Willets Point wrote:

Would it be fair to say that the marks on Rock's cheek are fresh prints?


OOOOOHHHHH!

Good one.

Later


I did come up with it on my own, but I'm fairly certain that the same jokes has already been made by countless somebodies else.

batmagadanleadoff
Apr 01 2022 06:14 PM
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Will Smith just resigned from the Motion Picture Academy.

https://variety.com/2022/film/news/will-smith-resigns-academy-oscars-slap-chris-rock-1235221041/






Pre-emptive strike? (You can't fire me. I quit!) Maybe Will got wind of what the Academy intends (or intended) to do.