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Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Edgy MD
Apr 09 2022 09:55 PM

Home Runs in a Mets Career



1) Darryl Strawberry: 252

2) David Wright: 242

3) Mike Piazza: 220

4) Howard Johnson: 192

Pete Alonso Projected to End of Season: 160

5) Dave Kingman: 154

6) Carlos Beltran: 149

7) Michael Conforto: 132

8) Lucas Duda: 125

9) Todd Hundley: 124

10) Kevin McReynolds: 122

11) Edgardo Alfonzo: 120

12) Ed Kranepool: 118

13) Jose Reyes: 108

14) Pete Alonso: 107

=#FF8000]Pete Alonso at Start of Season: 106

15) Carlos Delgado: 104



That's David Arthur Kingman, within reach.

Edgy MD
May 19 2022 05:26 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Pete looking to become only the 12th Met in history to climb Mt. Kranepool.





Home Runs in a Mets Career



1) Darryl Strawberry: 252

2) David Wright: 242

3) Mike Piazza: 220

4) Howard Johnson: 192

5) Dave Kingman: 154

6) Carlos Beltran: 149

Pete Alonso Projected to End of Season: 146.5

7) Michael Conforto: 132

8) Lucas Duda: 125

9) Todd Hundley: 124

10) Kevin McReynolds: 122

11) Edgardo Alfonzo: 120

12) Ed Kranepool: 118

13) Pete Alonso: 116

14) Jose Reyes: 108

=#FF8000]Pete Alonso at Start of Season: 106

15) Carlos Delgado: 104



Meanwhile, we have a stealth campaign for the top ten going on in the three-base-hit department.



Triples in a Mets Career



1) José Reyes: 113

2) Mookie Wilson: 62

3) Bud Harrelson: 45

4) Cleon Jones: 33

5) Steve Henderson: 31

6) Darryl Strawberry: 30

Brandon Nimmo Projected to End of Season: 28.15

7) Lance Johnson: 27

T8) Doug Flynn: 26

T8) David Wright: 26

10) Ed Kranepool: 25

11) Angel Pagan: 23

12) Lee Mazzilli: 22

T13) Wayne Garrett: 20

T13) Amed Rosario: 20

T13) Ron Swoboda: 20

T13) Daniel Murphy: 20

T17) Juan Lagares: 19

T17) Brandon Nimmo: 19

T19) Howard Johnson: 18

T19) Jerry Grote: 18

T19) Joel Youngblood: 18

T22) Lenny Dykstra: 17

T22) Rey Ordóñez: 17

T22) Carlos Beltran: 17

=#FF8000]Brandon Nimmo at Start of Season: 16

T25) Lenny Randle: 15

T25) Ken Boswell: 15

Benjamin Grimm
May 19 2022 06:39 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Wow, I remember when Kranepool was at the top of the list.

Benjamin Grimm
May 23 2022 02:21 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Most wins by a Mets team after 43 games:



1986, 1972, 1988: 31

2007, 2022: 28

1971, 1985: 27

2006: 26

2016: 25

1982, 1991, 1999, 2002, 2015, 2018: 24

Edgy MD
Jun 05 2022 01:44 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

We have a change in the homerun top 10, and Kingman is back in play.



It's kind of appropriate, as Kong used to pile up homers during west coast trips too.



Career Homers as a Met



1) Darryl Strawberry: 252

2) David Wright: 242

3) Mike Piazza: 220

4) Howard Johnson: 192

5) Dave Kingman: 154

Pete Alonso Projected to End of Season:153.13

6) Carlos Beltran: 149

7) Michael Conforto: 132

8) Lucas Duda: 125

9) Todd Hundley: 124

t10)Pete Alonso: 122

t10) Kevin McReynolds: 122

11) Edgardo Alfonzo: 120

12) Ed Kranepool: 118

13) Jose Reyes: 108

=#FF5910]Pete Alonso at Start of Season: 106

14) Carlos Delgado: 104

15) Pete Alonso: 101

16) George Foster: 99

T17) Curtis Granderson: 95

T17) Bobby Bonilla: 95

19) John Milner: 94

20) Cleon Jones: 93

batmagadanleadoff
Jun 05 2022 01:59 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Pete might just obliterate the Mets franchise HR record when he's done. The record's pretty paltry anyways ae the holder, Strawberry, was only an eight year Met.

Frayed Knot
Jun 05 2022 02:03 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Dabid was a sure bet too ... until he wasn't.

batmagadanleadoff
Jun 05 2022 02:06 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Frayed Knot wrote:

Dabid was a sure bet too ... until he wasn't.


Exactly. That's precisely why I wrote "might" ---- with Wright in mind.

Edgy MD
Jun 14 2022 10:12 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

We not only have an Mets all-time offensive record about to fall, we indeed have three guys jostling to be the first to break it.



In fact, considering that the guy who holds the record is a (so-far) lifetime Met out with an injury this year, it wouldn't be inaccurate to label the Cookie Club batch of Mets hitters "Generation Hit Batsman."



Career Times Hit by a Pitch as a Met



　　Brandon Nimmo Projected to End of Season: 59.00

　　Pete Alonso Projected to End of Season: 57.00

1) Michael Conforto : 50

2) Brandon Nimmo : 48

3) Lucas Duda : 47

4) Pete Alonso : 46

5) David Wright : 45

　　Jeff McNeil Projected to End of Season: 44.14

T6) Jeff McNeil : 41

　　=#FF5910]Brandon Nimmo at Start of Season: 41

T6) Ron Hunt : 41

8) Cleon Jones : 39

　　=#FF5910]Pete Alonso at Start of Season: 39

　　=#FF5910]Jeff McNeil at Start of Season: 39

9) Cliff Floyd : 37

10) Felix Millan : 36

T11) Ruben Tejada : 33

T11) Carlos Delgado : 33

　　Dominic Smith Projected to End of Season: 32.29

13) Edgardo Alfonzo : 29

T14) Jeff Kent : 28

T14) John Olerud : 28

16) Darryl Strawberry : 26

17) John Stearns : 25

18) Curtis Granderson : 24

　　J.D. Davis Projected to End of Season: 23.71

T19) Todd Hundley : 22

T19) Dominic Smith : 22

T21) Juan Lagares : 21

T21) Bud Harrelson : 21

T21) Jerry Grote : 21

T21) Todd Frazier : 21

T25) Vance Wilson : 20

T25) Gary Carter : 20

T27) Jason Phillips : 19

T27) J.D. Davis : 19

T27) Rusty Staub : 19

T27) Joe Christopher : 19

T31) Dave Kingman : 18

　　=#FF5910]Dominic Smith at Start of Season: 18

T31) Kevin Plawecki : 18

T33) Ryan Thompson : 17

T33) Mike Piazza : 17

T33) Joel Youngblood : 17

T33) Joe McEwing : 17

T33) Hubie Brooks : 17

T38) Ron Swoboda : 16

T38) Jeromy Burnitz : 16

　　=#FF5910]J.D. Davis at Start of Season: 16

T38) Keith Hernandez : 16

T38) Mookie Wilson : 16





Funnus Facticus: Despite playing only 124 games with the Mets, Kevin Pillar managed to get hit by pitches 10 times — once really, really hard.

roger_that
Jun 15 2022 03:45 AM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Edgy MD wrote:
Despite playing only 124 games with the Mets, Kevin Pillar managed to get hit by pitches 10 times — once really, really hard.


And he's still milking that one time for all it's worth: here's a sweet exchange he had recently with a kid


[TWEET]https://twitter.com/KPILLAR4/status/1536572058246688768[/TWEET]

Edgy MD
Jun 15 2022 06:10 AM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

My 11yr old son Cullen just got a 70mph fastball to the face yesterday and would love some words of encouragement ...


"Listen, kid — bones heal, chicks dig scars, pain is temporary, glory is forever."

Frayed Knot
Jun 15 2022 11:08 AM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

What 11 year olds are throwing 70mph?!?

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 15 2022 11:23 AM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

And do they really have a radar gun for games played by 11-year-olds? (That's not a rhetorical question. Do they? Maybe in some upscale leagues.)

Edgy MD
Jun 15 2022 11:33 AM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Checking out the account, he seems like an awful competitive dad, whose life seems to revolve around his kids' athletics.



Doesn't necessarily make him an asshole, but posting shots of my 11-year-old with blood all over his uniform top and pants wouldn't be an intuitive move for me.


[TWEET]https://twitter.com/jimmytague/status/1536714397770563584[/TWEET]

Edgy MD
Jun 17 2022 11:03 AM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Brandon Nimmo moves within one of plunky-plunk immortality, while Jeff McNeil breaks a tie with plunky-plunk legend Ron Hunt, projecting into the top five by season's end.



Our top ten is all 21st Century Mets apart from number 10, Felix Millan.



Career Times Hit by a Pitch as a Met



　Brandon Nimmo Projected to End of Season: 60.94

　Pete Alonso Projected to End of Season: 56.45

1) Michael Conforto: 50

2) Brandon Nimmo: 49

3) Lucas Duda: 47

　Jeff McNeil Projected to End of Season: 46.48

4) Pete Alonso: 46

5) David Wright: 45

6) Jeff McNeil: 42

　=#FF5910]Brandon Nimmo at Start of Season: 41

7) Ron Hunt: 41

8) Cleon Jones: 39

　=#FF5910]Pete Alonso at Start of Season: 39

　=#FF5910]Jeff McNeil at Start of Season: 39

9) Cliff Floyd: 37

10) Felix Millan: 36

T11) Ruben Tejada: 33

T11) Carlos Delgado: 33

　　Dominic Smith Projected to End of Season: 31.97

13) Edgardo Alfonzo: 29

T14) Jeff Kent: 28

T14) John Olerud: 28

16) Darryl Strawberry: 26

17) John Stearns: 25

18) Curtis Granderson: 24

　　J.D. Davis Projected to End of Season: 23.48

T19) Todd Hundley: 22

T19) Dominic Smith: 22

T21) Juan Lagares: 21

T21) Bud Harrelson: 21

T21) Jerry Grote: 21

T21) Todd Frazier: 21

T25) Vance Wilson: 20

T25) Gary Carter: 20

T27) Jason Phillips: 19

T27) J.D. Davis: 19

T27) Rusty Staub: 19

T27) Joe Christopher: 19

T31) Dave Kingman: 18

　　=#FF5910]Dominic Smith at Start of Season: 18

T31) Kevin Plawecki: 18

T33) Ryan Thompson: 17

T33) Mike Piazza: 17

T33) Joel Youngblood: 17

T33) Joe McEwing: 17

T33) Hubie Brooks: 17

T38) Ron Swoboda: 16

T38) Jeromy Burnitz: 16

　　=#FF5910]J.D. Davis at Start of Season: 16

T38) Keith Hernandez: 16

T38) Mookie Wilson: 16

Edgy MD
Jun 17 2022 06:40 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

History is on the line.



Career ERA as a Met, No Minimum Innings Pitched



1) Tommy Hunter: 0.00 (8.0 IP)

T2) Dan Schatzeder: 0.00 (5.2 IP)

T2) C.J. Nitkowski: 0.00 (5.2 IP)

4) Darren O'Day: 0.00 (3.0 IP)

5) Felix Heredia: 0.00 (2.2 IP)

T6) Don Rose: 0.00 (2.0 IP)

T6) Kevin Brown: 0.00 (2.0 IP)

8) Bob Johnson: 0.00 (1.2 IP)

T9) Scott Copeland: 0.00 (1.1 IP)

T9) Ryan O'Rourke: 0.00 (1.1 IP)

Edgy MD
Jun 19 2022 02:13 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Career ERA as a Met, No Minimum Innings Pitched



1) Tommy Hunter: 0.00 (9.0 IP)

T2) Dan Schatzeder: 0.00 (5.2 IP)

T2) C.J. Nitkowski: 0.00 (5.2 IP)

4) Darren O'Day: 0.00 (3.0 IP)

5) Felix Heredia: 0.00 (2.2 IP)

T6) Don Rose: 0.00 (2.0 IP)

T6) Kevin Brown: 0.00 (2.0 IP)

8) Bob Johnson: 0.00 (1.2 IP)

T9) Scott Copeland: 0.00 (1.1 IP)

T9) Ryan O'Rourke: 0.00 (1.1 IP)

Edgy MD
Jun 19 2022 02:33 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

IMPORTANT NOTICE



Joely Rodriguez just came in the game and allowed a run on the first pitch, as one of Hunter's leftover baserunners came in.



But this was a batter who had reached on an error, meaning T-Hunt is still clean on the ERA chart.



Career ERA as a Met, No Minimum Innings Pitched



1) Tommy Hunter: 0.00 (9.2 IP)

T2) Dan Schatzeder: 0.00 (5.2 IP)

T2) C.J. Nitkowski: 0.00 (5.2 IP)

4) Darren O'Day: 0.00 (3.0 IP)

5) Felix Heredia: 0.00 (2.2 IP)

T6) Don Rose: 0.00 (2.0 IP)

T6) Kevin Brown: 0.00 (2.0 IP)

8) Bob Johnson: 0.00 (1.2 IP)

T9) Scott Copeland: 0.00 (1.1 IP)

T9) Ryan O'Rourke: 0.00 (1.1 IP)

Edgy MD
Jun 20 2022 08:26 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Your current Mets squad on a near-record pace for team shutouts, despite having none of the complete-game variety.



Shutouts in a Season by a Mets Team



1) 1969 Mets: 28 (Jerry Koosman Team Leader with 6)

2022 Mets Projected to End of Season:25.83

2) 1968 Mets: 25 (Jerry Koosman, 7)

3) 1988 Mets: 22 (Bob Ojeda, 5)

T4) 2010 Mets: 19 (Johan Santana, 2)

T4) 1985 Mets: 19 (Dwight Gooden, 8)

6) 1976 Mets: 18 (Jon Matlack, 6)

7) 1998 Mets: 16 (Al Leiter, 2)

T8) 2018 Mets: 15 (Noah Syndergaard, 1)

T8) 1984 Mets: 15 (Dwight Gooden, 3)

T8) 1974 Mets: 15 (Jon Matlack, 7)

T8) 1973 Mets: 15 (Jerry Koosman, Jon Matlack, Tom Seaver, 3)

T12) 2015 Mets: 14 (Bartolo Colon, 1)

T12) 2001 Mets: 14 (Kevin Appier, Rick Reed, Steve Trachsel, 1)

T12) 1990 Mets: 14 (Frank Viola, 3)

T12) 1975 Mets: 14 (Tom Seaver, 5)

T16) 2016 Mets: 13 (Jacob deGrom, 1)

T16) 2012 Mets*: 13 (R.A. Dickey, 3)

T16) 1992 Mets: 13 (David Cone, 5)

T16) 1971 Mets: 13 (Tom Seaver, 4)

T20) 2019 Mets: 12 (Steven Matz, Noah Syndergaard, Jason Vargas, 1)

T20) 2009 Mets: 12 (Nelson Figueroa, Pat Misch, 1)

T20) 2008 Mets: 12 (Johan Santana, 2)

T20) 2006 Mets: 12 (John Maine, Alay Soler, 1)

T20) 1989 Mets: 12 (David Cone, Sid Fernandez, Bob Ojeda, 2)

T20) 1977 Mets: 12 (Jon Matlack, Tom Seaver, 3)

T20) 1972 Mets: 12 (Jon Matlack, 4)

T27) 2014 Mets: 11 (Zack Wheeler, 1)

T27) 2005 Mets: 11 (Tom Glavine, Aaron Heilman, Pedro Martinez, 1)

T27) 2022 Mets*: 11 (No CG Shutouts — Chris Bassitt, Carlos Carrasco Lead Team,

　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　Each Contributing 8 Innings to Combined 9-Inning Shutout Once)

T27) 1991 Mets: 11 (David Cone, 2)

T27) 1986 Mets: 11 (Ron Darling, Dwight Gooden, Bob Ojeda, 2)

T27) 1965 Mets: 11 (Al Jackson, 3)



* Indicates season included a no-hitter amongst its shutouts

Edgy MD
Jun 26 2022 03:19 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Tommy Hunter has officially lapped the field.



Career ERA as a Met, Regardless of Innings



1) Tommy Hunter: 0.00 (12.0 IP)

T2) Dan Schatzeder: 0.00 (5.2 IP)

T2) C.J. Nitkowski: 0.00 (5.2 IP)

4) Darren O'Day: 0.00 (3.0 IP)

5) Felix Heredia: 0.00 (2.2 IP)

T6) Don Rose: 0.00 (2.0 IP)

T6) Kevin Brown: 0.00 (2.0 IP)

8) Bob Johnson: 0.00 (1.2 IP)

T9) Scott Copeland: 0.00 (1.1 IP)

T9) Ryan O'Rourke: 0.00 (1.1 IP)

Edgy MD
Jul 02 2022 09:41 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Well, Tommy Hunter reached an all-time best 13 innings of unblemished ERA-ness, but the damn team had to send him back out for a second inning, where he finally got touched for a Leody Taveras homerun.



The shame is compounded by Hunter having not only sported a perfect ERA, but a perfect (albeit 0-0) won/loss record and a perfect batting average of 1.000.



But all things must pass, and Dan Schatzeder and C.J. Nitkowski fans everywhere celebrate their idols' return to co-leader status in this all-important category of perfection. Another added benefit is that Hunter's elimination from this category restores Desi Relaford and Todd Frazier to top-ten status.



Looking forward to R.J. Alvarez joining this august company.



Career ERA as a Met, No Minimum Innings



T1) Dan Schatzeder: 0.00 (5.2 IP)

T1) C.J. Nitkowski: 0.00 (5.2 IP)

3) Darren O'Day: 0.00 (3.0 IP)

4) Felix Heredia: 0.00 (2.2 IP)

T5) Don Rose: 0.00 (2.0 IP)

T5) Kevin Brown: 0.00 (2.0 IP)

7) Bob Johnson: 0.00 (1.2 IP)

T8) Scott Copeland: 0.00 (1.1 IP)

T8) Ryan O'Rourke: 0.00 (1.1 IP)

T9) Kenny Greer: 0.00 (1.0 IP)

T9) Rob Johnson: 0.00 (1.0 IP)

T9) Bob Gibson: 0.00 (1.0 IP)

T9) Desi Relaford: 0.00 (1.0 IP)

T9) Todd Frazier: 0.00 (1.0 IP)

T9) Manny Hernandez: 0.00 (1.0 IP)

T9) Jon Adkins: 0.00 (1.0 IP)

T9) Donnie Hart: 0.00 (1.0 IP)

T9) Akeem Bostick: 0.00 (1.0 IP)

Edgy MD
Jul 03 2022 07:55 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Passing Tommy Lasorda is pretty sweet, but look at Dusty Baker sneaking up on Walter F. Alston!



Career Wins as an MLB Manager



1) Connie Mack (HoF, 53 seasons): 3,731

=#002D72]　Tony La Russa projected to end of season (35 seasons): 2,901.00

2) Tony La Russa (HoF, 35 seasons): 2,859

=#FF5910]　Tony La Russa at start of season (34 seasons): 2,820

3) John McGraw (HoF, 33 seasons): 2,763

4) Bobby Cox (HoF, 29 seasons): 2,504

5) Joe Torre (HoF, 29 seasons): 2,326

6) Sparky Anderson (HoF, 26 seasons): 2,194

7) Bucky Harris (HoF, 29 seasons): 2,158

8) Joe McCarthy (HoF, 24 seasons): 2,125

=#002D72]　Dusty Baker projected to end of season (21 seasons): 2,092.92

9) Walter Alston (HoF, 23 seasons): 2,040

10) Dusty Baker (25 seasons): 2,038

11) Leo Durocher (HoF, 24 seasons): 2,008

12) Bruce Bochy (25 seasons): 2,003

=#FF5910]　Dusty Baker at start of season (24 seasons): 1,987

13) Casey Stengel (HoF, 25 seasons): 1,905

14) Gene Mauch (26 seasons): 1,902

15) Bill McKechnie (HoF, 25 seasons): 1,896

=#002D72]　Terry Francona projected to end of season (21 seasons): 1,867.26

16) Lou Piniella (23 seasons): 1,835

17) Terry Francona (22 seasons): 1,822

=#FF5910]　Terry Francona at start of season (21 seasons): 1,782

18) Jim Leyland (22 seasons): 1,769

=#002D72]　Buck Showalter projected to end of season (21 seasons): 1,651.48

19) Mike Scioscia (19 seasons): 1,650

20) Ralph Houk (20 seasons): 1,619

21) Fred Clarke (HoF, 19 seasons): 1,602

22) Buck Showalter (21 seasons): 1,600

23) Tommy Lasorda (HoF, 21 seasons): 1,599

24) Dick Williams (HoF, 21 seasons): 1,571

=#FF5910]　Buck Showalter at start of season (20 seasons): 1,551

25) Clark Griffith (HoF, 20 seasons): 1,491

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 03 2022 07:14 AM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Last night was Jacob deGrom's 199th start, tying him with Jon Matlack for 7th place on the all-time list:



1. Tom Seaver 395

2. Jerry Koosman 346

3. Dwight Gooden 303

4. Sid Fernandez 250

5. Ron Darling 241

6. Al Leiter 213

7. Jon Matlack 199

7. Jacob deGrom 199

9. Bobby Jones 190

10. Craig Swan 184

G-Fafif
Aug 03 2022 07:20 AM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Brandon Nimmo is now the all-time Met bruisee, hit for the 51st time last night.

Edgy MD
Aug 08 2022 07:42 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

We are very much in the Age of the Hit Batsmen, at least in Queens. Until quite recently, early Met Ron Hunt was the team's all-time leader, and he's now been passed by six 21st-Century men. Mark Cahna is in his first season and reduced to part-time work, but he's already passed longtimers like Wayne Garrett and Mike Cameron



Career Times Hit by a Pitch as a Met



Brandon Nimmo Projected to End of Season: 57.85

Pete Alonso Projected to End of Season: 53.86

1) Brandon Nimmo: 52

2) Michael Conforto: 50

Jeff McNeil Projected to End of Season: 47.92

3) Lucas Duda: 47

4) Pete Alonso: 49

T5) David Wright: 45

T5) Jeff McNeil: 45

=#FF5910]Brandon Nimmo at Start of Season: 41

7) Ron Hunt: 41

8) Cleon Jones: 39

=#FF5910]Pete Alonso at Start of Season: 39

=#FF5910]Jeff McNeil at Start of Season: 39

9) Cliff Floyd: 37

10) Felix Millan: 36



T11) Ruben Tejada: 33

T11) Carlos Delgado: 33

13) Edgardo Alfonzo: 29

T14) Jeff Kent: 28

T14) John Olerud: 28

16) Darryl Strawberry: 26

17) John Stearns: 25

18) Curtis Granderson: 24

Dominic Smith Projected to End of Season: 23.94

T19) Todd Hundley: 22

T19) Dominic Smith: 22



T21) Juan Lagares: 21

T21) Bud Harrelson: 21

T21) Jerry Grote: 21

T21) Todd Frazier: 21

T25) Vance Wilson: 20

T25) Gary Carter: 20

T25) J.D. Davis: 20

Mark Canha Projected to End of Season: 19.32

T28) Jason Phillips: 19

T28) Rusty Staub: 19

T28) Joe Christopher: 19



T31) Dave Kingman: 18

=#FF5910]Dominic Smith at Start of Season: 18

T31) Kevin Plawecki: 18

T33) Ryan Thompson: 17

T33) Mike Piazza: 17

T33) Joel Youngblood: 17

T33) Joe McEwing: 17

T33) Hubie Brooks: 17

T38) Ron Swoboda: 16

T38) Jeromy Burnitz: 16

=#FF5910]J.D. Davis at Start of Season: 16

T38) Keith Hernandez: 16

T38) Mookie Wilson: 16



T42) Tommie Agee: 15

T42) Wilmer Flores: 15

T42) Yoenis Cespedes: 15

T42) Justin Turner: 15

T42) Benny Agbayani: 15

T47) Ed Kranepool: 14

T47) Art Shamsky: 14

T47) Bernard Gilkey: 14

T47) George Foster: 14

T51) Carl Everett: 13



T51) Lee Mazzilli: 13

T51) Asdrubal Cabrera: 13

T51) Mark Canha: 13

T51) Carlos Beltran: 13

T51) Frank Thomas: 13

T51) Howard Johnson: 13

T58) Paul Lo Duca: 12

T58) Lastings Milledge: 12

T58) Damion Easley: 12

T58) Fernando Tatis: 12



T58) Mike Cameron: 12

T58) Brian McRae: 12

T58) Todd Pratt: 12

T58) Fernando Vina: 12

T58) Gregg Jefferies: 12

T58) Mo Vaughn: 12

T58) Ty Wigginton: 12

T58) Daniel Garcia: 12

T70) Elliott Maddox: 11

T70) Wayne Garrett: 11



T70) Daniel Murphy: 11

T70) Kelly Stinnett: 11

T70) Travis d'Arnaud: 11

T70) Carlos Baerga: 11

T70) Mike Baxter: 11

T70) Luis Lopez: 11

T78) Roy McMillan: 10

T78) Ed Charles: 10

T78) John Valentin: 10

T78) Steve Henderson: 10



T78) Jeff Francoeur: 10

T78) Lenny Dykstra: 10

T78) Jay Payton: 10

T78) Juan Samuel: 10

T78) Kevin Pillar: 10

Edgy MD
Aug 08 2022 07:49 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

And a few minutes after I finish my work and post that, McNeil gets drilled, passing David Wright.



Mercy.

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 20 2022 04:44 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Last night Pete Alonso tied a Mets record that I was unaware of. Most RBI in a season against a single opposing team:


MLB.com wrote:
The 22 RBIs are not only the most by any player against a single opponent across the Majors this season, but they're also tied for the most by any Mets player against one opponent. Piazza had 22 against the Phillies in 2002 and Richie Hebner had 22 against the Cardinals in 1979.


Richie Hebner! Who would have thought?

Edgy MD
Aug 25 2022 08:25 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Career Wins Credited to Mets Pitchers



1. Tom Seaver: 198

2. Dwight Gooden: 157

3. Jerry Koosman: 140

4. Ron Darling: 99

5. Sid Fernandez: 98

6. Al Leiter: 95

7. Jon Matlack: 82

8. David Cone: 81

Jacob deGrom Projected to End of Season: 80.86

9. Jacob deGrom: 80

=#FF8000]Jacob deGrom at Start of Season: 77

10. Bobby Jones: 74



Next highest among active Mets is Seth Lugo, in a tie for 38th place with 32.

batmagadanleadoff
Aug 25 2022 08:43 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Edgy MD wrote:

Career Wins Credited to Mets Pitchers



1. Tom Seaver: 198

2. Dwight Gooden: 157

3. Jerry Koosman: 140

4. Ron Darling: 99

5. Sid Fernandez: 98

6. Al Leiter: 95

7. Jon Matlack: 82

8. David Cone: 81

Jacob deGrom Projected to End of Season: 80.86

9. Jacob deGrom: 80

=#FF8000]Jacob deGrom at Start of Season: 77

10. Bobby Jones: 74



Next highest among active Mets is Seth Lugo, in a tie for 38th place with 32.


How does deGrom project to just one more (rounded, no less) win, this season? How are you calculating this? You must be including the first three and a half months of the season that he missed to calculate deGrom's pace. But he's got three wins in five starts so far, this season. deGrom's looking like a lock to comfortably pass Matlack this season and to, perhaps, finish this season closer to Leiter than to Matlack.

Edgy MD
Aug 25 2022 09:25 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Yeah, his pace is three wins in 126 games = 3.86 wins in 162 games.



Maybe not the most likely outcome, but far less absurd than projecting a guy who hits two homers in his team's first three games to finish with 108 homers. But the logic is the same either way.



It's what one might call an unsophisticated model, but that hopefully makes for exciting times if and when deGrom surpasses such cautious projections, hopefully sometime early next week.

batmagadanleadoff
Aug 25 2022 10:55 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Edgy MD wrote:

Yeah, his pace is three wins in 126 games = 3.86 wins in 162 games.



Maybe not the most likely outcome, but far less absurd than projecting a guy who hits two homers in his team's first three games to finish with 108 homers. But the logic is the same either way.



It's what one might call an unsophisticated model, but that hopefully makes for exciting times if and when deGrom surpasses such cautious projections, hopefully sometime early next week.


deGrom's got three wins in 23 games played by the Mets. He's pitched good enough to easily win all five of his starts.The Mets have 36 games remaining this season. So deGrom's on pace to finish the season with eight wins. (He's pitching good enough to finish with at least a dozen wins). You've got him at three wins for every 126 Mets games played or one win every 42 Mets games played. That's how you get .8 wins for the rest of the season. I think that measure is absurd.



By several measures, he's pitching at an even better rate than last year, if that's even imaginable. But once again, it's 2018 all over again for deGrom: the Mets have scored a total of 12 runs combined in deGrom's five starts this season. He could easily be 5-0 with just a little more luck.



Anyways, the thing to do is to sit back and cherish his outings because we might never see a run of dominance like what deGrom's been doing these past two seasons (when he's healthy). This is a level of dominance never matched by any pitcher in the history of baseball. He's so dominant, so unhittable, that I'm kinda shocked whenever an opposing batter doesn't make an out.

metsmarathon
Aug 26 2022 06:20 AM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Jeez edgy, how's come you're not dynamically calculating the players rate stats and totals based on their amount of time on the active roster, current totals, and projected playing time going forward, mixed with an assessment of quality of opponents, weather, and injury probability, with a least-squared regression model to average out any outlierish performances.



I expect better.

Fman99
Aug 26 2022 06:27 AM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

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Jeez edgy, how's come you're not dynamically calculating the players rate stats and totals based on their amount of time on the active roster, current totals, and projected playing time going forward, mixed with an assessment of quality of opponents, weather, and injury probability, with a least-squared regression model to average out any outlierish performances.



I expect better.



Yeah, I mean, I didn't want to say it, but, Christ, this is embarrassing.

batmagadanleadoff
Aug 26 2022 09:48 AM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

=metsmarathon post_id=105385 time=1661516405 user_id=83]
Jeez edgy, how's come you're not dynamically calculating the players rate stats and totals based on their amount of time on the active roster, current totals, and projected playing time going forward, mixed with an assessment of quality of opponents, weather, and injury probability, with a least-squared regression model to average out any outlierish performances.



I expect better.



Oh c'mon. deGrom missed almost 80% of this season, so far. Edgy projected that deGrom would also miss 80% of the rest of this season - hence not even one more win for deGrom without having to round up to one win.



Anyways, deGrom's gonna get about seven more starts in the regular season 2022, barring another injury, naturally. You think he won't win another game?

metsmarathon
Aug 26 2022 01:34 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

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=metsmarathon post_id=105385 time=1661516405 user_id=83]
Jeez edgy, how's come you're not dynamically calculating the players rate stats and totals based on their amount of time on the active roster, current totals, and projected playing time going forward, mixed with an assessment of quality of opponents, weather, and injury probability, with a least-squared regression model to average out any outlierish performances.



I expect better.



Oh c'mon. deGrom missed almost 80% of this season, so far. Edgy projected that deGrom would also miss 80% of the rest of this season - hence not even one more win for deGrom without having to round up to one win.



Anyways, deGrom's gonna get about seven more starts in the regular season 2022, barring another injury, naturally. You think he won't win another game?


no, he calculated that, 126 games into the season, jacob degrom has 3 wins so far, which is a rate of 0.0238 wins per team game played, which then informs the subsequent calculation: (3 / 126) x 162 = 3.857.



if the available information that edgy uses (and any reasonably simple season-rate projection system) shows that jacob degrom earns a win in 1 out of every 42 mets games this season, it is reasonable for that calculation to show that in the remaining 36 games, jacob degrom may not earn another win, at that rate.



the denominator is team games, not games played, nor innings pitched, nor time on active duty roster, nor any other metric. edgy is quite up front about it.



it is of course the limitation in looking at season-to-date rates to project season-end stats. but much as one should know better than to worry overlong about the effects of a current slump or hot streak on a player's seasonlong projected total, one must also be wise enough to not worry overly much about a player's not spending an entire season on the active roster artificially suppressing his projected total in one stat or another.



especially not for something that exists mostly to provide some amusement and a limited amount of context of where they might end up overlaid onto the more relevant tabulation of where they are now.



shit. brandon nimmo is projected to get hit by a batter ball almost six more times. bbbbut... what if the next time he gets hit he breaks his nose and can't play anymore why don't you account for that in your bullshit projections edgy huh huh huh what if the next time he gets hit pete alonso starts ducking out of the batters box any time a pitch is even on the inner half of the plate like a scared first grader trying out coach pitch for the very first time what about your precious projections then edgy WHAT ABOUT THEN!?!?!?!1!



you know better than to make an issue out of this mathematical quirk. yet you do. ok.

Edgy MD
Aug 26 2022 02:31 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Here's a healthier trend line for somebody else who has gone top ten.



Career Saves as a Met



1. John Franco: 276

2. Armando Benitez: 160

3. Jeurys Familia: 124

4. Jesse Orosco: 107

5. Billy Wagner: 101

Edwin Diaz Projected to End of Season: 100

6. Edwin Diaz: 92

7. Tug McGraw: 85

8. Roger McDowell: 84

9. Francisco Rodriguez: 83

10. Neil Allen: 69

11. Skip Lockwood: 65

=#0000BF]Edwin Diaz at Start of Season: 64

12. Braden Looper: 57

batmagadanleadoff
Aug 26 2022 02:52 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

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=batmagadanleadoff post_id=105393 time=1661528885 user_id=68]
=metsmarathon post_id=105385 time=1661516405 user_id=83]
Jeez edgy, how's come you're not dynamically calculating the players rate stats and totals based on their amount of time on the active roster, current totals, and projected playing time going forward, mixed with an assessment of quality of opponents, weather, and injury probability, with a least-squared regression model to average out any outlierish performances.



I expect better.



Oh c'mon. deGrom missed almost 80% of this season, so far. Edgy projected that deGrom would also miss 80% of the rest of this season - hence not even one more win for deGrom without having to round up to one win.



Anyways, deGrom's gonna get about seven more starts in the regular season 2022, barring another injury, naturally. You think he won't win another game?


no, he calculated that, 126 games into the season, jacob degrom has 3 wins so far, which is a rate of 0.0238 wins per team game played, which then informs the subsequent calculation: (3 / 126) x 162 = 3.857.



if the available information that edgy uses (and any reasonably simple season-rate projection system) shows that jacob degrom earns a win in 1 out of every 42 mets games this season, it is reasonable for that calculation to show that in the remaining 36 games, jacob degrom may not earn another win, at that rate.



the denominator is team games, not games played, nor innings pitched, nor time on active duty roster, nor any other metric. edgy is quite up front about it.



it is of course the limitation in looking at season-to-date rates to project season-end stats. but much as one should know better than to worry overlong about the effects of a current slump or hot streak on a player's seasonlong projected total, one must also be wise enough to not worry overly much about a player's not spending an entire season on the active roster artificially suppressing his projected total in one stat or another.



especially not for something that exists mostly to provide some amusement and a limited amount of context of where they might end up overlaid onto the more relevant tabulation of where they are now.



shit. brandon nimmo is projected to get hit by a batter ball almost six more times. bbbbut... what if the next time he gets hit he breaks his nose and can't play anymore why don't you account for that in your bullshit projections edgy huh huh huh what if the next time he gets hit pete alonso starts ducking out of the batters box any time a pitch is even on the inner half of the plate like a scared first grader trying out coach pitch for the very first time what about your precious projections then edgy WHAT ABOUT THEN!?!?!?!1!



you know better than to make an issue out of this mathematical quirk. yet you do. ok.


This is basic Occam's Razor logic and 3rd, maybe 4th grade math. So no need to elaborate or to delve into five paragraph explanations on how the math here works. He's projecting deGrom to not win another game all season long. Because in the real world, pitchers don't get credit for 80% of a win and there's no rounding up from fractional wins that don't even exist. But if you're happy with a projection that says deGrom won't win another game this regular season, that's your right.



The reason this projection has deGrom winning zero games going forward is that it's projecting deGrom to miss 80% of the remainder of the season -- because deGrom's already missed 80% of this season to date. Even though deGrom's not the pitcher he was last April or May because last April and May, deGrom wasn't even cleared to soft toss a baseball. But today, he's pitching like the best pitcher that ever was. And it's not fluky because this is how he pitched last year. His 2022 WHIP and K/9IP marks would be all-time records over an entire season. Same as last season.



This projection is like projecting, at the start of the season, that Pete Alonso would hit four HR's this season because entering this season, he's averaged four HR's a year over the course of his lifetime, dating back to the day that Alonso was born.

Edgy MD
Aug 26 2022 03:31 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

No, it's very much not like that.



I'm really sorry if this has you disappointed. But you're not, really, are you?

metsmarathon
Aug 26 2022 03:42 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Edgy, your projection system is crap too because it can't tell me how many homers Pete will hit before he dies, given his current yearly rate. Because you don't know how long he will live.



You suck and should feel badly about yourself.



There's a projection system called marcel. It's named after a monkey from a sitcom. It does a weighted average of the prior three seasons of a players performance to predict the subsequent season. It kinda works. Kinda doesn't. It actually works better than you'd guess.



Why do I bring it up?



Because while you may reject the numbers that it produces as unrealistic for a variety of reasons, it still does exactly what it says it does, and what it aims to do. Better projection systems are out there and used all the time. But Marcel's results are unassailable in that they simply turn a mathematical crank that is clearly presented.



Such is the same for “on pace for” season stats.



In fact, to use any sort of estimated future playing time would be to turn an objective projection system as edgy has, and turn it into something purely subjective, and therefore rife with flaws.



If you want to independently calculate Jacob degrom a rest of season stats, you're more than welcome to. Please post your assumptions so that we can tear them to shreds.

Edgy MD
Aug 26 2022 03:58 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Based on this season and the two previous seasons, Jacob deGrom projects to finish the season with 81.45 career victories.

Edgy MD
Aug 26 2022 09:10 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

RBI by a Met in a Single Season



Pete Alonso Projected to End of Season:133.94

T1) Mike Piazza (1999): 124

T1) David Wright (2008): 124

T3) Robin Ventura (1999): 120

T3) Pete Alonso (2019): 120

T5) Bernard Gilkey (1996): 117

T5) Howard Johnson (1991): 117

T7) Carlos Beltran (2006): 116

T7) David Wright (2006): 116

9) Carlos Delgado (2008): 115

10) Carlos Delgado (2006): 114

11) Mike Piazza (2000): 113

T12) Todd Hundley (1996): 112

T12) Carlos Beltran (2007): 112

T12) Carlos Beltran (2008): 112

Francisco LIndor Projected to End of Season:108.43

T15) Darryl Strawberry (1990): 108

T15) Edgardo Alfonzo (1999): 108

17) David Wright (2007): 107

T18) Rusty Staub (1975): 105

T18) Gary Carter (1986): 105

T18) Pete Alonso (2022): 105



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



T58) Todd Hundley (1997): 86

T58) Dave Kingman (1976): 86

T58) George Foster (1984): 86

T58) Yoenis Céspedes (2016): 86

T62) Kevin McReyndolds (1989): 85

T62) Francisco Lindor (2022): 85

64) Robin Ventura (2000): 84



Rusty's 105 from 1975 was the record until 1990, and now it's tied for 18th, where Pete has joined him, hopefully briefly.

batmagadanleadoff
Aug 26 2022 09:44 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Well, the Mets cant even score two and a half runs a game for deGrom. So it's incredible that deGrom has any wins this season. By that measure, yeah, he might only win one more game the rest of the way.

metsmarathon
Aug 27 2022 07:49 AM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

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Well, the Mets cant even score two and a half runs a game for deGrom. So it's incredible that deGrom has any wins this season. By that measure, yeah, he might only win one more game the rest of the way.



on this, we agree.

batmagadanleadoff
Aug 27 2022 08:22 AM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

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=batmagadanleadoff post_id=105499 time=1661571844 user_id=68]
Well, the Mets cant even score two and a half runs a game for deGrom. So it's incredible that deGrom has any wins this season. By that measure, yeah, he might only win one more game the rest of the way.



on this, we agree.

They're already squandering his greatness. He's pitching like the best that ever was and they're 3-2 in his starts when they could easily be 5-0.

Willets Point
Aug 27 2022 08:40 AM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Edgy MD wrote:

RBI by a Met in a Single Season



Pete Alonso Projected to End of Season:133.94




This does not seem to jibe with the people on here complaining that Alonso is having an off year.

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 27 2022 09:31 AM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

He's having a terrific year. Just a recent slump.

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 30 2022 02:41 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Pete Alonso has quietly bumped Lee Mazzilli out of the all-time Top Twenty in Runs Batted In:




1David Wright970
2Darryl Strawberry733
3Mike Piazza655
4Howard Johnson629
5Ed Kranepool614
6Carlos Beltran559
7Edgardo Alfonzo538
8Cleon Jones521
Jose Reyes521
10Keith Hernandez468
11Kevin McReynolds456
12Daniel Murphy402
13Rusty Staub399
14Todd Hundley397
15Michael Conforto396
16Dave Kingman389
17Lucas Duda378
18George Foster361
19Jerry Grote357
20Pete Alonso354
21Lee Mazzilli353





And Keith Hernandez's spot in the Top Ten could be in jeopardy next season.



In addition to Mazzilli, Pete has passed the following players this year:

Gary Carter, Mookie Wilson, Carlos Delgado, John Milner, John Stearns, Ron Swoboda, Wayne Garrett, Bobby Bonilla, John Olerud, Cliff Floyd, Hubie Brooks, Jeff Kent, Tommie Agee, Robin Ventura, Rey Ordonez, Dave Magadan, Wilmer Flores

Edgy MD
Sep 05 2022 07:42 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

National League Batting Average, 2022



1) Paul Goldschmidt (STL): .328

2) Freddie Freeman (LAD): .322

3) Jeff McNeil (NYM): .320

4) Trea Turner (LAD): .304

5) Manny Machado (SD): .303

6) Nolan Arenado (STL): .301

7) José Iglésias (COL): .300

8) Alec. Bohm (PHI): .295

9) Gavin Lux (LAD): .293

10) Starling Marte (NYM): .292

Edgy MD
Sep 07 2022 09:47 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

I hope deGrom got to say hi to Cone and Matlack at the OTD game, because he just passed one and tied the other.



Career Wins Credited to Mets Pitchers



1) Tom Seaver: 198

2) Dwight Gooden: 157

3) Jerry Koosman: 140

4) Ron Darling: 99

5) Sid Fernandez: 98

6) Al Leiter: 95

Jacob deGrom Projected to End of Season: 82.87

T7) Jon Matlack: 82

T7) Jacob deGrom: 82

9) David Cone: 81

=#FF8000]Jacob deGrom at Start of Season: 77

10) Bobby Jones: 74

Edgy MD
Sep 13 2022 04:14 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Action developing in the batting race. Starling Marte (and José Iglesias, for that matter) are doing some improvement just by standing still.



But the greater action is at the top. Freddie Freeman has overtaken Paul Goldschmidt, and is even pulling away some. If Freeman can pass Goldie, then McNeil can catch them both.



National League Batting Average, 2022



1) Freddie Freeman (STL): .330

2) Paul Goldschmidt (LAD): .325

3) Jeff McNeil (NYM): .321

4) Trea Turner (LAD): .305

5) Manny Machado (SD): .301

6) José Iglésias (STL): .300

7) Nolan Arenado (COL): .298

8) Alec Bohm (PHI): .293

9) Starling Marte (NYM): .292

10) Nico Hoener (LAD): .291



With 20 games to go (21 for Goldschmidt), Freeman has the advantage of playing for a team far enough ahead in the standings that they can rest him liberally. On the other hand, he has a real good shot at 200 hits, for whatever that's worth, which provides motivation to get his swings in. Also, in 2022, resting guys in September isn't as easy as it used to be.



The advantage for McNeil is that he has played fewer games and made fewer trips to the plate than the two guys ahead of him, so he gets a little more uptick for any hits he gets going forward. Still, he has to get them. Assuming four at-bats per game for each of the top three, McNeil needs one more hit than Goldschmidt to catch him, and five more hits than Freeman.



Doable.

Edgy MD
Sep 13 2022 06:44 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Mid-game, McNeil has pulled into a virtual tie with Goldschmidt at .324, with but Goldie currently edging by the skin of his teeth at .3240 to .3239.



Dodgers haven't started yet in Arizona.

Edgy MD
Sep 13 2022 06:53 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Goldie drops to .3234! A half point behind!

Edgy MD
Sep 14 2022 11:54 AM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Freddy Freeman finished his evening with a 1-for-4, while Paul Goldschmidt took an 0-for-4 collar and our own Jeff McNeil had a 2-for-4 night.



Freeman's one hit was a homerun, while McNeil's most consequential trip to the plate involved grounding into a double-play while first-pitch swinging, so yeah, Freeman win's the night, but McNesbit gains meaningfully in the batting average race, pulling ahead of Goldschmidt and bearing down on Freddie.



Where Mets Rank Staff is projecting that McNeil now needs four more hits than Freeman over the remaining 19 games to beat him for the batting average crown.



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National League Batting Average, 2022



1) Freddie Freeman (STL): .329

2) Jeff McNeil (NYM): .323

3) Paul Goldschmidt (LAD): .322

4) Trea Turner (LAD): .305

5) Manny Machado (SD): .302

6) José Iglésias (STL): .300

7) Nolan Arenado (COL): .299

8) Alec Bohm (PHI): .293

9) Starling Marte (NYM): .292

10) Nico Hoener (LAD): .291



Starling Marte, for what it's worth, needs about 19 hits more than Freeman going forward to take the batting title.

MFS62
Sep 14 2022 12:11 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Have the Mets ever had two batters in the top 10 in batting average in the same year?

If so, who?



Later

Edgy MD
Sep 14 2022 12:18 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

I'm sure it's happened several times, but most recently, in 2020, Michael Conforto and Dom Smith were both in the top 10.

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 16 2022 07:57 AM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

2022 marks the 12th time that the Mets have won 90 or more games in a season.



Most team wins in a season



1. 108 (1986)

2. 100 (1969, 1988)

4. 98 (1985)

5. 97 (1999, 2006)

7. 94 (2000)

8. 92 (1987)

9. 91 (1990)

10. 90 (1984, 2015, 2022)

stevejrogers
Sep 16 2022 08:09 AM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Benjamin Grimm wrote:

2022 marks the 12th time that the Mets have won 90 or more games in a season.



Most team wins in a season



1. 108 (1986)

2. 100 (1969, 1988)

4. 98 (1985)

5. 97 (1999, 2006)

7. 94 (2000)

8. 92 (1987)

9. 91 (1990)

10. 90 (1984, 2015, 2022)


All but 4 made the postseason. If the WC existed back in the day, I'd imagine 2 to all of of those years would have been postseason appearing years. Easily the best era in team history.

Edgy MD
Sep 16 2022 08:55 AM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

McNeil a had sweet start today, singing and doubling in his first two trips to the plate, but then, instead of cashing in, pumped more money in the slots, finishing at 2-for-5. And then Goldschmidt went and doubled and walked in this three trips, finishing the evening two-ish points ahead of Def Jeff.



With Freddie Freeman's Dodgers inactive last night, they have a more compressed schedule going forward, still having 20 games while the Cards and Mets have 18 and 17, respectively.



It's that tight. McNeil, according to current estimates, needs one more hit than Goldschmidt to finish ahed of him, and two more hits than Freeman.



Startling Marte moved up the easy way, staying in the clubhouse while Alec Bohm took a collar, and so is now seventh in the league in batting average.



National League Batting Average, 2022



1) Freddie Freeman (STL): .329

2) Paul Goldschmidt (LAD): .324

3) Jeff McNeil (NYM): .322

4) Trea Turner (LAD): .305

5) José Iglésias (STL): .300

6) Nolan Arenado (COL): .298

7) Manny Machado (SD): .297

8) Starling Marte (NYM): .292

9) Nico Hoener (LAD): .291

10) Alec Bohm (PHI): .289

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 16 2022 08:59 AM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

I didn't notice that Jeff McNeil was singing as he hit that double. That seems a bit our of character.

Edgy MD
Sep 16 2022 09:03 AM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

It was a pretty loose mood after the Mets took the early lead. At one point, Luis Guillorme brought out a harmonica and played a few licks in the on-deck circle.

metsmarathon
Sep 16 2022 09:31 AM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Edgy MD wrote:

It's that tight. McNeil, according to current estimates, needs one more hit than Goldschmidt to finish ahed of him, and two more hits than Freeman.


how do you figure?



i figure that, freeman would need to go 0-13 to drop his batting average below mcneil's, and goldy would have to go 0-4.



mcneil needs to go 5-5 to move ahead of freeman, and 2-2 to move ahead of goldy.



if freddy takes an 0-4 and mcneil goes 4-4, jeff takes the lead.



oh, i think i get it. if goldschmidt goes 0-1 and jeff goes 1-1, goldy still has the lead, but then if they keep getting hits at the same rate thereafter, jeff would eventually overtake him before the end of the season, assuming some reasonable rate of at bats remaining. is that it? if they both go 3-4 in their next game, jeff would have the lead, as his denominator is smaller.



i wonder how well that holds up for varying hit rates through the rest of the season... <-- this is a fun math problem that i'm tempted to explore, but am going to force myself to probably not attempt to.

Edgy MD
Sep 16 2022 10:18 AM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

There was math involved, but I think it got away from me. I'm seeing now that I double counted additional-hits needed in calculating, leading me to understimate by half. Where I've written "one more hit than Goldschmidt to finish ahead of him, and two more hits than Freeman," please read "two more hit than Goldschmidt to finish ahead of him, and four more hits than Freeman."



My poor dog has been sick and I made the mistake of doing math while nursing her. That's my story.



And it really isn't so simple as all that, so much as, he would have to tack two and four hits onto his projected total beyond what Goldschmidt and Freeman tack on (or fail to tack on) beyond their current rates.



Freebird is 181/550. Continuing at that pace, assuming four at-bats per game over 20 games, should he hit at more or less his current rate of .32909, he'd collect 27.33 more his to finish with that average.



Goldberry is 165/509. Continuing at that pace, assuming four at-bats per game over 18 games, should he hit at more or less his current rate of .32417, he'd collect 23.34 more hits to finish with that average.



McNeil is 129/444. Continuing at that pace, assuming four at-bats per game over 17 games, should he hit at more or less his current rate of .32196, he'd collect 21.89 more hits to finish with that average.



If the first two (somehow) get those exact fractional totals, McNeil would need his 21.89 plus two additional hits (23.89) to pass Goldschmidt (with a .32569 average) and four additional hits (25.89) to pass Freeman (with a .32941 average).



So yeah, I'm kind of rooting for him to go .38074 over his final 68 at-bats. But it won't have to be that lofty if Freeman and Goldschmidt cooperate with a well-timed collapse. So, to simplify it, in daily watching, I'm suggesting we just root for McNeil to get two more hits than than Goldschmidt going forward, and four more than Freeman.



Conceivably, he could pull that off in a single night! Maybe tonight!

Fman99
Sep 16 2022 10:34 AM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Math boner alert

metsmarathon
Sep 16 2022 10:47 AM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

math boners are the best kind. well, except for all the actual sexy kinds.

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 16 2022 09:00 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

2022 marks the 10th time that the Mets have won 91 or more games in a season.



Most team wins in a season



1. 108 (1986)

2. 100 (1969, 1988)

4. 98 (1985)

5. 97 (1999, 2006)

7. 94 (2000)

8. 92 (1987)

9. 91 (1990, 2022)

10. 90 (1984, 2015)

Edgy MD
Sep 17 2022 07:50 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Mets Hit by Pitches in 2022



Mark Canha　　　⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️

Brandon Nimmo　⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️

Starling Marte　　⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️

Pete Alonso　　　⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️

Francisco Lindor　⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️

Jeff McNeil　　　　⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️

J.D. Davis　　　　⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️

James McCann　　⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️

Dominic Smith　　⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️

Tomás Nido　　　　⚾️

Eduardo Escobar　⚾️

Daniel Vogelbach　⚾️

Tyler Naquin　　　⚾️

Travis Jankowski　⚾️

Brett Baty　　　　⚾️

Nick Plummer　　⚾️

Edgy MD
Sep 17 2022 07:59 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

A hunnert and one!!



Mets Hit by Pitches in 2022



Mark Canha　　　⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️

Brandon Nimmo　⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️

Starling Marte　　⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️

Pete Alonso　　　⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️

Jeff McNeil　　　　⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ (#101)

Francisco Lindor　⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️

J.D. Davis　　　　⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️

James McCann　　⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️

Dominic Smith　　⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️ ⚾️

Tomás Nido　　　　⚾️

Eduardo Escobar　⚾️

Daniel Vogelbach　⚾️

Tyler Naquin　　　⚾️

Travis Jankowski　⚾️

Brett Baty　　　　⚾️

Nick Plummer　　⚾️

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 17 2022 08:38 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

2022 marks the 9th time that the Mets have won 92 or more games in a season.



Buck Showalter, by the way, is now has more wins than any other first-year Mets manager. Davey Johnson had 90 in 1984. The Mets won 91 games in Bud Harrelson's first season in 1990, but the first 20 wins were under Davey Johnson.



Most team wins in a season



1. 108 (1986)

2. 100 (1969, 1988)

4. 98 (1985)

5. 97 (1999, 2006)

7. 94 (2000)

8. 92 (1987, 2022)

9. 91 (1990)

10. 90 (1984, 2015)

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 18 2022 03:14 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

2022 marks the 8th time that the Mets have won 93 or more games in a season.



I know how fascinating this is!





Most team wins in a season



1. 108 (1986)

2. 100 (1969, 1988)

4. 98 (1985)

5. 97 (1999, 2006)

7. 94 (2000)

8. 93 (2022)

9. 92 (1987)

10. 91 (1990)

11. 90 (1984, 2015)

The Hot Corner
Sep 18 2022 05:05 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

I believe the Mets will need to have their second greatest win total in franchise history if they are to hold off the Braves and win the NL East.

Willets Point
Sep 18 2022 05:06 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Sadly they cannot beat or tie the record.

Edgy MD
Sep 19 2022 09:30 AM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

As the Mets close in on the not-that-coveted hit-batsmen record, it's worth noting that it's not an all-time record at all-but a modern record, with the all-time mark seemingly out of reach, at least this season.



This state of things is the product of the storied 1890s Baltimore squad, who pretty much own the top seven slots. The lone exception are the 1899 Brooklyn Superbas — who, you won't be shocked to learn, were led by Ned Hanlon who defected to Brooklyn after eight years running the Orioles.



That the Mets might invade this territory is almost an insult to Hanlon, who clearly ran the show like he was Morris Buttermaker skippering an entire team of Rudy Steins.



Anyhow, the Mets are one plunk short of the all-time top 10, and three shy of the modern record.



Batsmen Hit on a Single Team in a Season



1) 1898 Baltimore Orioles: 160

2) 1899 Brooklyn Superbas: 125

3) 1899 Baltimore Orioles: 122

4) 1896 Baltimore Orioles: 120

5) 1897 Baltimore Orioles: 115

2022 New York Mets Projected to End of season: 111.65

6) 1891 Baltimore Orioles: 111

7) 1895 Baltimore Orioles: 106

8) 2021 Cincinnati Reds: 105

9) 2021 Los Angeles Dodgers: 104

10) 2008 Cleveland Indians: 103

11) 2022 New York Mets: 102

12) 2018 Tampa Bay Rays: 101

13) 1997 Houston Astros: 100

14) 1894 Baltimore Orioles: 98

15) 2021 Oakland Athletics: 98

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 19 2022 08:57 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

2022 marks the 8th time that the Mets have won 94 or more games in a season. Prediction: Their next win will be their 95th.





Most team wins in a season



1. 108 (1986)

2. 100 (1969, 1988)

4. 98 (1985)

5. 97 (1999, 2006)

7. 94 (2000, 2022)

9. 92 (1987)

10. 91 (1990)

11. 90 (1984, 2015)

Willets Point
Sep 19 2022 09:00 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

By the end of the month, the 2022 Mets can have the second most wins in team history.

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 19 2022 09:13 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

http://www.ultimatemets.com/above_below_500_graph.php?year=1986>



http://www.ultimatemets.com/above_below_500_graph.php?year=1969>



http://www.ultimatemets.com/above_below_500_graph.php?year=1988>



http://www.ultimatemets.com/above_below_500_graph.php?year=1985>



http://www.ultimatemets.com/above_below_500_graph.php?year=1999>



http://www.ultimatemets.com/above_below_500_graph.php?year=2006>



http://www.ultimatemets.com/above_below_500_graph.php?year=2000>



http://www.ultimatemets.com/above_below_500_graph.php?year=2022>

Edgy MD
Sep 19 2022 09:33 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

And Max is one of the 150 winningest pitchers in MLB history.





Career Wins Credited to Pitchers



1) Cy Young: 511

2) Walter Johnson: 417

T3) Grover Cleveland Alexander: 373

T3) Christy Matthewson: 373

5) Pud Galvin: 365

6) Warren Spahn: 363

7) Kid Nichols: 362

8) Greg Maddux: 355

9) Roger Clemens: 354

10) Tim Keefe: 342

…

T114) Rube Marquard: 201

T114) Charlie Root: 201

Max Scherzer Projected to End of Season: 200.87

T116) Chuck Finley: 200

T116) Jon Lester: 200

T116) Max Scherzer: 200

T116) George Uhle: 200

T116) Tim Wakefield: 200

…

T147) Dutch Leonard: 191

T147) Jim Whitney: 191

=#FF8000]Max Scherzer at Start of Season: 190

T149) Dutch Leonard: 191

T149) Jim Whitney: 191

Edgy MD
Sep 20 2022 07:42 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Top ten most poked team of voodoo dolls in history.





Hit Batsmen Endured by a Team in a Single Season



1) 1898 Baltimore Orioles: 160

2) 1899 Brooklyn Superbas: 125

3) 1899 Baltimore Orioles: 122

4) 1896 Baltimore Orioles: 120

5) 1897 Baltimore Orioles: 115

2022 New York Mets Projected to End of season: 111.99

6) 1891 Baltimore Orioles: 111

7) 1895 Baltimore Orioles: 106

8) 2021 Cincinnati Reds: 105

9) 2021 Los Angeles Dodgers: 104

T10) 2008 Cleveland Indians: 103

T10) 2022 New York Mets: 103

12) 2018 Tampa Bay Rays: 101

13) 1997 Houston Astros: 100

14) 1894 Baltimore Orioles: 98

15) 2021 Oakland Athletics: 98

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 20 2022 09:09 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

2022 marks the 7th time that the Mets have won 95 or more games in a season.





Most team wins in a season



1. 108 (1986)

2. 100 (1969, 1988)

4. 98 (1985)

5. 97 (1999, 2006)

7. 95 (2022)

8. 94 (2000)

9. 92 (1987)

10. 91 (1990)

11. 90 (1984, 2015)

Edgy MD
Sep 20 2022 09:40 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

And here's a big all-time team record in serious danger of falling.





RBI by a Met in a Single Season



Pete Alonso Projected to End of Season:130.68

T1) Mike Piazza (1999): 124

T1) David Wright (2008): 124

3) Pete Alonso (2022): 121

T4) Robin Ventura (1999): 120

T4) Pete Alonso (2019): 120

T6) Bernard Gilkey (1996): 117

T6) Howard Johnson (1991): 117

T8) Carlos Beltran (2006): 116

T8) David Wright (2006): 116

10) Carlos Delgado (2008): 115



11) Carlos Delgado (2006): 114

12) Mike Piazza (2000): 113

T13) Todd Hundley (1996): 112

T13) Carlos Beltran (2007): 112

T13) Carlos Beltran (2008): 112

T16) Darryl Strawberry (1990): 108

T16) Edgardo Alfonzo (1999): 108

18) David Wright (2007): 107

Francisco LIndor Projected to End of Season:106.92

T19) Rusty Staub (1975): 105

T19) Gary Carter (1986): 105



21) Darryl Strawberry (1987): 104

22) David Wright (2010): 103

T23) David Wright (2005): 102

T23) John Olerud (1997): 102

T25) Howard Johnson (1989): 101

T25) Darryl Strawberry (1988): 101

T27) Gary Carter (1985): 100

T27) Eddie Murray (1993): 100

T29) Howard Johnson (1987): 99

T29) Francisco Lindor (2022): 99

T29) Kevin McReynolds (1988): 99

T29) David Arthur Kingman (1982): 99

Edgy MD
Sep 21 2022 01:01 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

One tick short of the modern, non-Ned Hanlon record.



Hit Batsmen Endured by a Team in a Single Season



1) 1898 Baltimore Orioles: 160

2) 1899 Brooklyn Superbas: 125

3) 1899 Baltimore Orioles: 122

4) 1896 Baltimore Orioles: 120

5) 1897 Baltimore Orioles: 115

2022 New York Mets Projected to End of season: 111.58

6) 1891 Baltimore Orioles: 111

7) 1895 Baltimore Orioles: 106

8) 2021 Cincinnati Reds: 105

T9) 2021 Los Angeles Dodgers: 104

T9) 2022 New York Mets: 104

11) 2008 Cleveland Indians: 103

12) 2018 Tampa Bay Rays: 101

13) 1997 Houston Astros: 100

T14) 1894 Baltimore Orioles: 98

T14) 2021 Oakland Athletics: 98

Frayed Knot
Sep 21 2022 01:06 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Not sure what it says that all those records are either real recent or way distant past.

Willets Point
Sep 21 2022 01:30 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Modern record tied.

Edgy MD
Sep 21 2022 01:39 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

And it's appropriate that it's Cahna to carry the ball over the goal line.



Hit Batsmen Endured by a Team in a Single Season



1) 1898 Baltimore Orioles: 160

2) 1899 Brooklyn Superbas: 125

3) 1899 Baltimore Orioles: 122

4) 1896 Baltimore Orioles: 120

5) 1897 Baltimore Orioles: 115

2022 New York Mets Projected to End of season: 112.65

6) 1891 Baltimore Orioles: 111

7) 1895 Baltimore Orioles: 106

T8) 2021 Cincinnati Reds: 105

T8) 2022 New York Mets: 105

10) 2021 Los Angeles Dodgers: 104

11) 2008 Cleveland Indians: 103

12) 2018 Tampa Bay Rays: 101

13) 1997 Houston Astros: 100

T14) 1894 Baltimore Orioles: 98

T14) 2021 Oakland Athletics: 98

Edgy MD
Sep 21 2022 03:02 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

And it's Guillorme who gets to spike the ball in the end zone. Also, the '97 O's are suddenly within reach.



Hit Batsmen Endured by a Team in a Single Season



1) 1898 Baltimore Orioles: 160

2) 1899 Brooklyn Superbas: 125

3) 1899 Baltimore Orioles: 122

4) 1896 Baltimore Orioles: 120

5) 1897 Baltimore Orioles: 115

2022 New York Mets Projected to End of season: 113.72

6) 1891 Baltimore Orioles: 111

T7) 1895 Baltimore Orioles: 106

T7) 2022 New York Mets: 106

9) 2021 Cincinnati Reds: 105

10) 2021 Los Angeles Dodgers: 104

11) 2008 Cleveland Indians: 103

12) 2018 Tampa Bay Rays: 101

13) 1997 Houston Astros: 100

T14) 1894 Baltimore Orioles: 98

T14) 2021 Oakland Athletics: 98

stevejrogers
Sep 21 2022 03:46 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Edgy MD wrote:

And Max is one of the 150 winningest pitchers in MLB history.





Career Wins Credited to Pitchers



1) Cy Young: 511

2) Walter Johnson: 417

T3) Grover Cleveland Alexander: 373

T3) Christy Matthewson: 373

5) Pud Galvin: 365

6) Warren Spahn: 363

7) Kid Nichols: 362

8) Greg Maddux: 355

9) Roger Clemens: 354

10) Tim Keefe: 342

…

T114) Rube Marquard: 201

T114) Charlie Root: 201

Max Scherzer Projected to End of Season: 200.87

T116) Chuck Finley: 200

T116) Jon Lester: 200

T116) Max Scherzer: 200

T116) George Uhle: 200

T116) Tim Wakefield: 200

…

T147) Dutch Leonard: 191

T147) Jim Whitney: 191

=#FF8000]Max Scherzer at Start of Season: 190

T149) Dutch Leonard: 191

T149) Jim Whitney: 191


This site has indexed at least one card of all of Max's 200 Win Club mates except one!



[url]https://www.tcdb.com/List.cfm/lid/6283/MLB-Milestones:-200-Wins-Club?C=1

MFS62
Sep 21 2022 05:26 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

What about Mark Canha getting plunked 23 times, a single season Mets record?

Where does that put him on the individual all-time list?

Later

stevejrogers
Sep 21 2022 09:43 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022


What about Mark Canha getting plunked 23 times, a single season Mets record?

Where does that put him on the individual all-time list?

Later


Not even half way to the record!



[url]https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/HBP_season.shtml

MFS62
Sep 22 2022 06:46 AM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Thanks. Ron Hunt was an Expo when he set the mark, so it looks like Canha has the single season record.

Vina had more than Canha, but I had to check. He wasn't a Met when he got plunked 31 times.

Later

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 23 2022 10:30 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

2022 marks the 7th time that the Mets have won 96 or more games in a season.





Most team wins in a season



1. 108 (1986)

2. 100 (1969, 1988)

4. 98 (1985)

5. 97 (1999, 2006)

7. 96 (2022)

8. 94 (2000)

9. 92 (1987)

10. 91 (1990)

11. 90 (1984, 2015)

Edgy MD
Sep 24 2022 04:06 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Sole possession of seventh place all-time. Currently looking ahead to fifth.



Hit Batsmen Endured by a Team in a Single Season



1) 1898 Baltimore Orioles: 160

2) 1899 Brooklyn Superbas: 125

3) 1899 Baltimore Orioles: 122

4) 1896 Baltimore Orioles: 120

2022 New York Mets Projected to End of season: 115.41

5) 1897 Baltimore Orioles: 115

6) 1891 Baltimore Orioles: 111

7) 2022 New York Mets: 109

8%) 1895 Baltimore Orioles: 106

8) 2021 Cincinnati Reds: 105

9) 2021 Los Angeles Dodgers: 104

10) 2008 Cleveland Indians: 103

12) 2018 Tampa Bay Rays: 101

t8) 1997 Houston Astros: 100

T14) 1894 Baltimore Orioles: 98

T14) 2021 Oakland Athletics: 98

Edgy MD
Sep 25 2022 04:14 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

We have a new team RBI champ, and he has time to add to his lead.



Rusty Staub held the team mark through 1991, and now he's looking like he's about to fall to 20th.



RBI by a Met in a Single Season



Pete Alonso Projected to End of Season:131.49

1) Pete Alonso (2022): 125

T2) Mike Piazza (1999): 124

T2) David Wright (2008): 124

T4) Robin Ventura (1999): 120

T4) Pete Alonso (2019): 120

T6) Bernard Gilkey (1996): 117

T6) Howard Johnson (1991): 117

T8) Carlos Beltran (2006): 116

T8) David Wright (2006): 116

10) Carlos Delgado (2008): 115

11) Carlos Delgado (2006): 114

12) Mike Piazza (2000): 113

T13) Todd Hundley (1996): 112

T13) Carlos Beltran (2007): 112

T13) Carlos Beltran (2008): 112

T16) Darryl Strawberry (1990): 108

T16) Edgardo Alfonzo (1999): 108

Francisco Lindor Projected to End of Season:107.30

18) David Wright (2007): 107

T19) Rusty Staub (1975): 105

T19) Gary Carter (1986): 105

21) Darryl Strawberry (1987): 104

22) David Wright (2010): 103

T23) David Wright (2005): 102

T23) Francisco Lindor (2022): 102

T23) John Olerud (1997): 102

T26) Howard Johnson (1989): 101

T26) Darryl Strawberry (1988): 101

T28) Gary Carter (1985): 100

T28) Eddie Murray (1993): 100

T30) Howard Johnson (1987): 99

T30) Kevin McReynolds (1988): 99

T30) David Arthur Kingman (1982): 99

Edgy MD
Sep 25 2022 04:42 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

And here in the eighth, Alonso and Lindor slide over a few more beads on the abacus.



RBI by a Met in a Single Season



Pete Alonso Projected to End of Season:134.65

1) Pete Alonso (2022): 128

T2) Mike Piazza (1999): 124

T2) David Wright (2008): 124

T4) Robin Ventura (1999): 120

T4) Pete Alonso (2019): 120

T6) Bernard Gilkey (1996): 117

T6) Howard Johnson (1991): 117

T8) Carlos Beltran (2006): 116

T8) David Wright (2006): 116

10) Carlos Delgado (2008): 115

11) Carlos Delgado (2006): 114

12) Mike Piazza (2000): 113

T13) Todd Hundley (1996): 112

T13) Carlos Beltran (2007): 112

T13) Carlos Beltran (2008): 112

Francisco LIndor Projected to End of Season:108.35

T16) Darryl Strawberry (1990): 108

T16) Edgardo Alfonzo (1999): 108

18) David Wright (2007): 107

T19) Rusty Staub (1975): 105

T19) Gary Carter (1986): 105

21) Darryl Strawberry (1987): 104

T22) David Wright (2010): 103

T22) Francisco Lindor (2022): 103

T24) David Wright (2005): 102

T24) John Olerud (1997): 102

T26) Howard Johnson (1989): 101

T26) Darryl Strawberry (1988): 101

T28) Gary Carter (1985): 100

T28) Eddie Murray (1993): 100

T30) Howard Johnson (1987): 99

T30) Kevin McReynolds (1988): 99

T30) David Arthur Kingman (1982): 99

Willets Point
Sep 25 2022 04:47 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Yay, Pete!

Edgy MD
Sep 25 2022 05:03 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Mark Cahna is a force.





Hit Batsmen Endured by a Team in a Single Season



1) 1898 Baltimore Orioles: 160

2) 1899 Brooklyn Superbas: 125

3) 1899 Baltimore Orioles: 122

4) 1896 Baltimore Orioles: 120

2022 New York Mets Projected to End of season: 115.71

5) 1897 Baltimore Orioles: 115

6) 1891 Baltimore Orioles: 111

7) 2022 New York Mets: 110

8%) 1895 Baltimore Orioles: 106

8) 2021 Cincinnati Reds: 105

9) 2021 Los Angeles Dodgers: 104

10) 2008 Cleveland Indians: 103

12) 2018 Tampa Bay Rays: 101

t8) 1997 Houston Astros: 100

T14) 1894 Baltimore Orioles: 98

T14) 2021 Oakland Athletics: 98

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 25 2022 08:26 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

2022 marks the 7th time that the Mets have won 97 or more games in a season.



(Note: the 97th win in 1999 came in the 163rd game of the season, the tie-breaking playoff game against the Reds for the Wild Card.)



Most team wins in a season



1. 108 (1986)

2. 100 (1969, 1988)

4. 98 (1985)

5. 97 (1999, 2006, 2022)

8. 94 (2000)

9. 92 (1987)

10. 91 (1990)

11. 90 (1984, 2015)

Edgy MD
Sep 27 2022 06:46 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Breaking away from the field.



RBI by a Met in a Single Season



Pete Alonso Projected to End of Season:137.36

1) Pete Alonso (2022): 131

T2) Mike Piazza (1999): 124

T2) David Wright (2008): 124

T4) Robin Ventura (1999): 120

T4) Pete Alonso (2019): 120

T6) Bernard Gilkey (1996): 117

T6) Howard Johnson (1991): 117

T8) Carlos Beltran (2006): 116

T8) David Wright (2006): 116

10) Carlos Delgado (2008): 115

11) Carlos Delgado (2006): 114

12) Mike Piazza (2000): 113

T13) Todd Hundley (1996): 112

T13) Carlos Beltran (2007): 112

T13) Carlos Beltran (2008): 112

Francisco Lindor Projected to End of Season:108.00

T16) Darryl Strawberry (1990): 108

T16) Edgardo Alfonzo (1999): 108

18) David Wright (2007): 107

T19) Rusty Staub (1975): 105

T19) Gary Carter (1986): 105

21) Darryl Strawberry (1987): 104

T22) David Wright (2010): 103

T22) Francisco Lindor (2022): 103

T24) David Wright (2005): 102

T24) John Olerud (1997): 102

T26) Howard Johnson (1989): 101

T26) Darryl Strawberry (1988): 101

T28) Gary Carter (1985): 100

T28) Eddie Murray (1993): 100

T30) Howard Johnson (1987): 99

T30) Kevin McReynolds (1988): 99

T30) David Arthur Kingman (1982): 99

MFS62
Sep 27 2022 06:53 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 27 2022 07:51 PM

List of Mets players with multiple 40 home run seasons:

Pete Alonso (2019, 2022)





Later

Edgy MD
Sep 27 2022 07:06 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Alonso is indeed on the verge having more homers in a season than any Met who isn't him, and his pace is accelerating.



HRs by a Met in a Single Season



1) Pete Alonso (2019): 53

Pete Alonso Projected to End of Season:41.94

T2) Carlos Beltran (2006): 41

T2) Todd Hundley (1996): 41

T4) Pete Alonso (2022): 40

T4) Mike Piazza (1999): 40

T6) Darryl Strawberry (1987): 39

T6) Darryl Strawberry (1988): 39

T8) Mike Piazza (2000): 38

T8) Howard Johnson (1991): 38

T8) Carlos Delgado (2006): 38

T8) Carlos Delgado (2008): 38

T12) Darryl Strawberry (1990): 37

T12) Pete Alonso (2021): 37

T12) Dave Kingman (1976): 37

T12) Dave Kingman (1982): 37

T16) Howard Johnson (1989): 36

T16) Mike Piazza (2001): 36

T16) Howard Johnson (1987): 36

T16) Dave Kingman (1975): 36

T20) Cliff Floyd (2005): 34

T20) Bobby Bonilla (1993): 34

T20) Frank Thomas (1962): 34

T23) David Wright (2008): 33

T23) Carlos Beltran (2007): 33

T23) Mike Piazza (2002): 33

T23) Michael Conforto (2019): 33

T27) Robin Ventura (1999): 32

T27) Gary Carter (1985): 32

T27) Ike Davis (2012): 32

30) Yoenis Cespedes (2016): 31

Willets Point
Sep 27 2022 08:42 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 27 2022 08:51 PM

I need the MLB app constantly updating me on Pete Alonso's progress in breaking the record for 2nd most home runs in a single season as a Met.

Edgy MD
Sep 27 2022 08:49 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

It's interesting how there seems to be hard ceilings in there for a few guys. Straw hit 39 twice. Delgado hit 38 twice. Kingman hit 37 twice.

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 28 2022 09:01 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

2022 marks the 5th time that the Mets have won 98 or more games in a season.



The 98 wins in 1985 is the most that the Mets have ever won in a season in which they did not finish in first place.





Most team wins in a season



1. 108 (1986)

2. 100 (1969, 1988)

4. 98 (1985, 2022)

6. 97 (1999, 2006)

8. 94 (2000)

9. 92 (1987)

10. 91 (1990)

11. 90 (1984, 2015)

Edgy MD
Sep 28 2022 09:24 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Freddie Freeman still out there swinging against San Diego (he's batting as I type), but currently, his lead is down to .0062.



National League Batting Average, 2022



1) Freddie Freeman (LAD): .3265

2) Jeff McNeil (NYM): .3203

3) Paul Goldschmidt (STL): .3182

4) Trea Turner (LAD): .301

5) Manny Machado (SD): .298

6) Nolan Arenado (COL): .293

7) Starling Marte (NYM): .292

8) Alec Bohm (PHI): .290

9) Nico Hoener (LAD): .287

10) Justin Turner (LAD): .280





Starling Marte managed to move up a slot in the rankings while remaining idle, as the also-injured José Iglesias no longer has enough plate appearances to qualify.



Justin Turner becomes the fourth Dodger in the top ten.



OE: Freeman walked, and so the numbers stay the same.

Willets Point
Sep 29 2022 07:55 AM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Benjamin Grimm wrote:





The 98 wins in 1985 is the most that the Mets have ever won in a season in which they did not finish in first place.




Let's not break that record.

Edgy MD
Sep 29 2022 08:23 AM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Freeman's winning-margin 10th-inning single in the Dodgers 1-0 victory over the Pads was his lone hit as he went 1/3 with two walks, meaning that McNeil made a nightly gain on him by the slightest increment with his 2-4.



National League Batting Average, 2022



1) Freddie Freeman (STL): .3271

2) Jeff McNeil (NYM): .3203

3) Paul Goldschmidt (LAD): .3182

4) Trea Turner (LAD): .299

5) Manny Machado (SD): .298

6) Nolan Arenado (COL): .293

7) Starling Marte (NYM): .292

8) Alec Bohm (PHI): .290

9) Nico Hoener (LAD): .287

10) Justin Turner (LAD): .280



While the Mets sit idle in Atlanta this evening, the Dodgers again face the Pads in San Diego. Padres haven't yet announced their pitcher.

Edgy MD
Oct 01 2022 03:06 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

National League Batting Average, 2022



1) Freddie Freeman (STL): .3272

2) Jeff McNeil (NYM): .3217

3) Paul Goldschmidt (LAD): .3195

4) Trea Turner (LAD): .298

5) Manny Machado (SD): .295

6) Nolan Arenado (COL): .293

7) Starling Marte (NYM): .292

8) Alec Bohm (PHI): .283

9) Nico Hoener (LAD): .282

10) Justin Turner (LAD): .280



Given an expected 20 remaining at-bats for each of our batting average title pursuers (each has five games left on the schedule), Freddie Freeman would be expected to garner 6.54 hits the rest of the way, and Jeff McNeil 6.43, based on their season rates. Assuming all of that, McNeil would need to collect three hits beyond his standard rate. So we're kind of looking for 9 or more hits in the remaining games.



Actually, we're looking for wins. Five or more, but the subplot here is the need for a few more hits for McNeil.



While McNeil hits cleanup tonight against Starlng Marte, Freeman bats third against Colorado lefty Kyle Freeland. (In all things, but money, t'll be an exceedingly free showdown.)



Also, Starlng Marte may or may not get back on the field before the regular season ends, but even if he doesn't, he has a chance to crack the league's top five.

Edgy MD
Oct 01 2022 03:46 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Also, the Mets somehow fell off their torrid doink pace. Canha (who else?) managed to get them back on track last night, tying them with the 891 Oriloes for sixth all-time, but they have fallen off the pace that would get them into the top five.



Hit Batsmen Endured by a Team in a Single Season



1) 1898 Baltimore Orioles: 160

2) 1899 Brooklyn Superbas: 125

3) 1899 Baltimore Orioles: 122

4) 1896 Baltimore Orioles: 120

5) 1897 Baltimore Orioles: 115

2022 New York Mets Projected to End of season: 114.54

T6) 2022 New York Mets: 111

T6) 1891 Baltimore Orioles: 111

8) 1895 Baltimore Orioles: 106

9) 2021 Cincinnati Reds: 105

10) 2021 Los Angeles Dodgers: 104

11) 2008 Cleveland Indians: 103

12) 2018 Tampa Bay Rays: 101

13) 1997 Houston Astros: 100

T14) 1894 Baltimore Orioles: 98

T14) 2021 Oakland Athletics: 98

Edgy MD
Oct 02 2022 06:13 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

National League Batting Average, 2022



1) Freddie Freeman (STL): .32666666667

2) Jeff McNeil (NYM): .32567049808



Difference: .00099616858

Benjamin Grimm
Oct 03 2022 11:15 AM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Anthony DiComo on McNeil's chances at winning the batting title:


CAN McNEIL WIN THE BATTING TITLE?



Jeff McNeil has some work to do in the Mets' final series this week if he wants to become just the second player in franchise history to win a batting title -- but it's not out of the realm of possibility.



McNeil entered Monday hitting .326, putting him just one point behind Freddie Freeman's MLB-leading .327 mark. McNeil was hitting .314 just eight games ago, but he's recorded multiple hits in seven of his past eight games -- during which he's hitting .476 (17-for-35) -- to put himself back in the mix to join José Reyes (2011) as the Mets' only NL batting champions. McNeil, however, would be the first to lead MLB outright.



It also doesn't hurt that McNeil will be closing the season with three favorable matchups. Not only are the Nationals scheduled to start three right-handers at Citi Field, but each of them -- Cory Abbott (5.11 ERA), Paolo Espino (4.30 ERA) and Erick Fedde (5.27 ERA) -- has had his struggles this season.



So, let's do the math on this one. Assuming McNeil averages four at-bats over the final three games and goes a reasonable 4-for-12 (.333), that would bring his season average to .326.



As for Freeman, his projections are slightly tougher. He's the type of player who prides himself on playing every day (he's missed only nine games over the past five seasons), but the Dodgers have already locked up home-field advantage throughout the postseason. So let's tentatively pencil him in for 10 at-bats. In order for McNeil to win the batting title with his hypothetical .326 average, Freeman would need to go 2-for-10 or worse.

MFS62
Oct 03 2022 11:24 AM
The Other Race

Jeff McNeil trails Freddie F'n Freeman by .001 in the race for the National League batting title. (.337 to .336)

Let's go Squirrel.



Later

Ceetar
Oct 03 2022 11:25 AM
Re: The Other Race

booby prizes!

Edgy MD
Oct 03 2022 11:46 AM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Yeah, believe me — I spanked myself for tracking booby prizes while the division title was on the line. I rationalize my efforts with the thought that McNeil had a good series when few of his teammates can say the same. If that happened because he was chasing personal boobies instead of team glory, well, at least it happened.



Here's the current breakdown. Also worth noting that Starling Marte has caught another player by doing absolutely nothing.



National League Batting Average, 2022



1) Freddie Freeman (STL): .326667

2) Jeff McNeil (NYM): .325714

3) Paul Goldschmidt (LAD): .318

4) Trea Turner (LAD): .298

5) Manny Machado (SD): .294

6) Nolan Arenado (STL): .291892

7) Starling Marte (NYM): .291845

8) Alec Bohm (PHI): .282

9) Nico Hoener (LAD): .282

10) Justin Turner (LAD): .280



So that's less than a point. It's something like an .000953 differences between Freeman and McNeil. (Hey, kids! It's New York Jets great Freeman McNeil!) Even closer is the .000047 gap between Nolan Arenado and Starling Marte.

Edgy MD
Oct 03 2022 08:53 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Freeman hitless in his first at-bat, but still in the lead.



National League Batting Average, 2022



1) Freddie Freeman (LAD): .326123

2) Jeff McNeil (NYM): .325714



A difference of .000409.



The Mets have the RBI total all but locked up by Pete Alonso, but it'll take a heckuva barrage in the last series for him to catch Kyle Schwarber in the homerun race. Schwarber also leads the league with 199 strikeouts and sports a batting average (.217) that would embarrass Dave Kingman.

Edgy MD
Oct 03 2022 09:17 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

And Freebird grounds out to first in his second at-bat! The National League has a new batting average leader!!



National League Batting Average, 2022



1) Jeff McNeil (NYM): .325714

2) Freddie Freeman (LAD): .325581



McNeil leads by .000133!! Our wake-up team of Scott and Jason in the Morning will have more updates for you bright and early tomorrow!

Edgy MD
Oct 04 2022 08:10 AM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Freeman finished the evening going 0-for-4, and McNeil's lead is suddenly a little less theoretical and a little more concrete, no longer having to go down the ten-thousandth's place to glean a difference. The margin between him and Freddie is now a robust .001211.



Word on the street is that this development has led the Dodgers to descend into panic mode.



The Cardinals had Nolan Arenado in the lineup last night, but he was a late scratch as a precaution against falling behind Starling Marte in the batting average race, which would weaken his position to opt out of his contract into the offseason free agent market.



Anyhow, that's what I heard.



　　National League Batting Average, 2022



　　1) Jeff McNeil (NYM): .325714

　　2) Freddie Freeman (LAD): .324503

　　3) Paul Goldschmidt (STL): .319

　　4) Trea Turner (LAD): .298

　　5) Manny Machado (SD): .294

　　6) Nolan Arenado (STL): .291892

　　7) Starling Marte (NYM): .291845

　　8) Alec Bohm (PHI): .281

　　9) Nico Hoener (LAD): .280

　　10) Justin Turner (LAD): .280

Benjamin Grimm
Oct 05 2022 06:37 AM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

2022 marks the 4th time that the Mets have won 100 or more games in a season.



The 98 wins in 1985 had been the most that the Mets had ever won in a season in which they did not finish in first place. That may still turn out to be the case, I think. If the Mets win today and the Braves lose, the Mets will go on the record as having finished tied for first place, but without winning a division title.





Most team wins in a season



1. 108 (1986)

2. 100 (1969, 1988, 2022)

5. 98 (1985)

6. 97 (1999, 2006)

8. 94 (2000)

9. 92 (1987)

10. 91 (1990)

11. 90 (1984, 2015)

Benjamin Grimm
Oct 05 2022 07:09 AM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

If McNeil sits out today's game, Freeman will have to go 4 for 4 to pass him.

Benjamin Grimm
Oct 05 2022 08:12 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

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Edgy MD
Oct 05 2022 08:47 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

That's great.



It's kind of Topps appropriate that two out of three are shown on defense.

Benjamin Grimm
Oct 06 2022 06:40 AM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Mustn't neglect Pete. (And Francisco too!)





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MFS62
Oct 06 2022 01:08 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Benjamin Grimm wrote:

http://ultimatemets.com/cards/2022BattingLeaders.jpg>


Let's give credit where credit is due.

Jeff had the top BA in the MAJORS this year. (The AL leader hit about .315 - and it wasn't Aaron Judge)



Later

batmagadanleadoff
Oct 06 2022 02:28 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

Mets All-time HR leaders:



Darryl Strawberry 252

David Wright 242

Mike Piazza 220

Howard Johnson 192

(Nate Colbert 163 - Padres all-time HR leader)

Dave Kingman 154

Carlos Beltran 149

Pete Alonso 146 with a bullet

Michael Conforto 132



Barring a serious injury or a departure, Pete Alonso is on pace to break the Mets franchise HR record at about the all-star break, 2025. Alonso will be 30 years old by then.

Benjamin Grimm
Oct 06 2022 02:51 PM
Re: Life in the Passing Lane: Where Mets Rank in 2022

I remember when Ed Kranepool's 118 was the club record. (Until Dave Kingman passed him.) Now Kranepool is all the way down to 13th place.