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Three-Letter Codes (Insomnia Post)

Edgy MD
Apr 18 2022 10:44 AM

Seeing the Nats in their City Connect jerseys and identifying themselves by the sort of three-letter abbreviation that you find on an out-of-town scoreboard, it occurred to me, as it occasionally does, that — unlike Olympic three-letter country abbreviations, or three-letter airport abbreviations — we don't have officially standardized codes for all Major League geographic designations appearing on out-of-town scoreboards. (I was lying awake in bed considering this, so please forgive the exhausting emptiness of it all.)



Three-letter team codes are mostly standardized. You know that BOS is Boston and STL is St. Louis. But there are distinctions.



1. If a team is one of two with the same geographic home designation do you use the third letter to designate the team's nicknamed or league?



2. If a team is has a geographic designation that is two words, well that makes it pretty clear what the first two letters should be, but then, do you even need to use a third letter?



3. Then there are teams from geographically designated localities, like Washington, where there simply isn't consensus over which three letters to extract from the city's or state's (or bay's) name.



The short answer is that it mostly doesn't really matter. Standardization doesn't have to be officially sanctioned, but can arise from a meritocracy. Whichever abbreviations are recognized and work for people rise to the top.



At least, it should be the answer, but we are in the age of databases, so my three-letter code ought to match your three letter code, or else things are going to get futzed up when we exchange data. So let's settle this right now.



In the NL EAST, ATL and MIA are pretty universal, but are the Mets NYN or NYM? Are the Phillies PHI or PHA? Are the Nats WAS (most common) or WSH (the breastplate on those new jerseys).



Have I seen WTN as well? Or PHL?



In the NL CENTRAL, STL and MIL are close to set in stone, as is CIN (though I feel like I've seen CNT or something stupid like that somewhere. But are the Cubs CHC or CHN? The Buccos are PIT but are there still stragglers out there using PGH?



In the NL WEST, COL is blessedly unvaried, but there's the Pads (SD or SDP?), the Giants (SF or SFG) the Dodgers (LA or LAD or LAN) all with ambiguities hanging over their heads. The Diamondbacks should easily default to ARI, but there are still scoreboard operators using ARZ, presumably in order to get more Scrabble points.



In the AL EAST, TOR is used everywhere. BAL has 95% saturation but we might still have to hunt and kill the remainders who brandish a BLT out there, as if Johnny Unitas might get offended. The Red Sox were once BSA but there aren't a lot of fans around who will wonder if BOS is the Braves. There could an argument that an original code should not be altered, but that's silly. We're looking for universal usage here, but not universal into perpetuity. Are the Yanks NYY or NYA (or possibly they should universally appear on scoreboards as MFY). Do you use TB or TBR for the Rays?



In the AL CENTRAL is pretty solid. DET, MIN, and CLE are unlikely to go anywhere. If you meet somebody using CLV, you are meeting a crazy person. But are the Royals KC or KCR or even KCA? Are the White Sox CHA or CHW?



Lastly, we have AL WEST where TEX, HOU, OAK, and SEA all pretty much reign supreme. SEA can also distinguish the Mariners from the STP Pilots in a database that includes historical teams. But then we have the Angels and their historic mess of a relationship with what geographic designation they represent. Are they ANA? Are they LAA? (If so, is that last A for "Angels" or "Anaheim" or "American League" and does it matter?) Should they just be forced to carry CAL forever in tribute to Rod Carew.



This is what I thought about as I lay awake last night, and I invite you to reread when yourself have trouble sleeping.



https://content.sportslogos.net/news/2022/03/washington-nationals-2022-city-connect-uniforms-new-nike-pink-cherry-blossom-wsh-grey-sportslogosnet-feat-1.jpg>

kcmets
Apr 18 2022 11:00 AM
Re: Three-Letter Codes (Insomnia Post)

WSH fashion tops are UGG.



The standard codes to me are what bbrdotcom uses. No?

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 18 2022 11:01 AM
Re: Three-Letter Codes (Insomnia Post)

Did Johnny Unitas have an aversion to bacon, lettuce, and tomatoes?

Edgy MD
Apr 18 2022 11:18 AM
Re: Three-Letter Codes (Insomnia Post)

I think BLT was something like a scoreboard abbreviation you might see in the time of the Baltimore Colts.

Edgy MD
Apr 18 2022 11:24 AM
Re: Three-Letter Codes (Insomnia Post)

The standard codes to me are what bbrdotcom uses. No?


Maybe, but baseballreference uses "TBR" and ESPN uses "TB" and the fascists are never going to be able to take over this country if we can't sort that out.

kcmets
Apr 18 2022 11:37 AM
Re: Three-Letter Codes (Insomnia Post)

I dunno how to react to flipping the fascists and Disney cards.



I really didn't mean anything so dramatic.

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 18 2022 11:38 AM
Re: Three-Letter Codes (Insomnia Post)

I should probably address this in the UMDB. Right now, there's no distinguishing the Cubs and White Sox on this chart, unless you know that the Mets would have had a home-and-road against the Cubs but not the White Sox.



http://ultimatemets.com/wl_opponent_year_graph.php?year=2019>

Frayed Knot
Apr 18 2022 11:45 AM
Re: Three-Letter Codes (Insomnia Post)

I use three letter codes often and have for years.

I guess I pretty much made up my own on the ones that weren't obvious and have been treating those as if they are the universal standard ... because of course they should be.



NYM, PHI, ATL, WAS, MIA

CHC, PIT, MIL, StL*, CIN

LAD, SFG, SDP, ARZ, COL



NYY (when not using MFY), BOS, TOR, TBR, BAL

CHW, CLE, KCR, DET, MIN

TEX, HOU, LAA, SEA, OAK





* And, yes, I usually take the trouble to use the lower case t

Fman99
Apr 18 2022 11:52 AM
Re: Three-Letter Codes (Insomnia Post)

I think it makes more sense to use the team name than it does the A or N for AL/NL. That's just me. CHC and CHW and NYM and LAD all make more sense than the AL/NL equivalents do, or would.

Chad ochoseis
Apr 18 2022 03:28 PM
Re: Three-Letter Codes (Insomnia Post)

I think the generally accepted TLA for Chicago's AL team is CWS, even if it doesn't fit the pattern.

seawolf17
Apr 18 2022 03:33 PM
Re: Three-Letter Codes (Insomnia Post)

Frayed Knot wrote:

NYM, PHI, ATL, WAS, MIA

CHC, PIT, MIL, StL*, CIN

LAD, SFG, SDP, ARZ, COL



NYY (when not using MFY), BOS, TOR, TBR, BAL

CHW, CLE, KCR, DET, MIN

TEX, HOU, LAA, SEA, OAK


I agree with all of these except I use ARI for Arizona. I very much agree with team-name-as-third-initial vs league-name.

ashie62
Apr 18 2022 03:47 PM
Re: Three-Letter Codes (Insomnia Post)

It must be a rainout day.

Edgy MD
Apr 18 2022 03:51 PM
Re: Three-Letter Codes (Insomnia Post)

I can start another thread. I totally can.

whippoorwill
Apr 19 2022 10:37 AM
Re: Three-Letter Codes (Insomnia Post)

I like NYM and NYY. PGH for Pittsburgh. PHI for Phillies.



I haven't thought about the White Sox or Cubs in years so I'll have to think on that.



Fire away on a new thread Edgy! :D

TransMonk
Apr 19 2022 11:21 AM
Re: Three-Letter Codes (Insomnia Post)

CHN, CHA, NYN, NYA, etc. make me think of early 90s computer games that had no official MLB affiliations. I've always gone with two letters when abbreviating for the Rays, Royals, Giants and Padres.



My abbreviations go:

NYM, PHI, WAS, MIA, ATL

CHC, MIL, STL, CIN, PIT

LAD, SF, SD, ARZ, COL

NYY, BOS, TOR, BAL, TB

CLE, CHW, DET, MIN, KC

HOU, LAA, TEX, SEA, OAK

Edgy MD
Apr 19 2022 11:22 AM
Re: Three-Letter Codes (Insomnia Post)

=whippoorwill post_id=89716 time=1650386255 user_id=79]
I like NYM and NYY. PGH for Pittsburgh. PHI for Phillies.



That's interesting. I really thought I might have been dreaming when I suggested there were still outlets using PGH for Pittsburgh.

whippoorwill
Apr 19 2022 01:30 PM
Re: Three-Letter Codes (Insomnia Post)

Nope!



PIT means Pitt University

The Hot Corner
Apr 19 2022 05:22 PM
Re: Three-Letter Codes (Insomnia Post)

=TransMonk post_id=89725 time=1650388876 user_id=71]
CHN, CHA, NYN, NYA, etc. make me think of early 90s computer games that had no official MLB affiliations. I've always gone with two letters when abbreviating for the Rays, Royals, Giants and Padres.



My abbreviations go:

NYM, PHI, WAS, MIA, ATL

CHC, MIL, STL, CIN, PIT

LAD, SF, SD, ARZ, COL

NYY, BOS, TOR, BAL, TB

CLE, CHW, DET, MIN, KC

HOU, LAA, TEX, SEA, OAK



I would go with this with one small change, I prefer MFY for that other New York team.

Frayed Knot
Apr 19 2022 05:37 PM
Re: Three-Letter Codes (Insomnia Post)

Chad ochoseis wrote:

I think the generally accepted TLA for Chicago's AL team is CWS, even if it doesn't fit the pattern.


I could go with CWS but BRS seems wrong and I'd prefer my socks to match so it doesn't look like I dressed in the dark (which I usually do anyway).

Edgy MD
Apr 19 2022 06:56 PM
Re: Three-Letter Codes (Insomnia Post)

It's true. A single exception could lead to anarchy. Next thing you know, we'll have women in coaching boxes and taco trucks on every corner.

Edgy MD
Feb 21 2023 08:25 AM
Re: Three-Letter Codes (Insomnia Post)

I don't follow the NFL, so I'm just now learning that scoreboards abbreviate Jacksonville as JAX.



I'm not sure if that is genius or profane. Possibly both.

A Boy Named Seo
Feb 21 2023 08:38 AM
Re: Three-Letter Codes (Insomnia Post)

=TransMonk post_id=89725 time=1650388876 user_id=71]
CHN, CHA, NYN, NYA, etc. make me think of early 90s computer games that had no official MLB affiliations. I've always gone with two letters when abbreviating for the Rays, Royals, Giants and Padres.



My abbreviations go:

NYM, PHI, WAS, MIA, ATL

CHC, MIL, STL, CIN, PIT

LAD, SF, SD, ARZ, COL

NYY, BOS, TOR, BAL, TB

CLE, CHW, DET, MIN, KC

HOU, LAA, TEX, SEA, OAK



That's how they used to appear in the Albuquerque Journal as a kid. When I was six, I didn't know if the Mets were NYN or NYA.

whippoorwill
Feb 21 2023 10:13 AM
Re: Three-Letter Codes (Insomnia Post)

=kcmets post_id=89656 time=1650301212 user_id=53]
WSH fashion tops are UGG.



The standard codes to me are what bbrdotcom uses. No?



I like them!

Edgy MD
Feb 21 2023 10:27 AM
Re: Three-Letter Codes (Insomnia Post)

From a perspective of something-that-represents-the-city-to-the-outside-world-and-the-natives-identify-with-as-well-but-is-NOT-NOT-NOT-about-politics-or-the-military, they were a huge win.



It's a franchise that not only stole the already-played-out character-race idea pretty much at their outset, but did it by using the four presidents off of Mt. Rushmore, which is 1,600 miles away, so they've seemingly had an identity crisis from the outset. As suspicious as I am of the "City Connect" thing, anything that makes the teams more distinct from one another is good to me, and being the first team to put blossoms on their hat certainly does that.

Centerfield
Feb 21 2023 11:26 AM
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=Fman99 post_id=89664 time=1650304327 user_id=86]
I think it makes more sense to use the team name than it does the A or N for AL/NL. That's just me. CHC and CHW and NYM and LAD all make more sense than the AL/NL equivalents do, or would.





Yes. If you want to use the league, then you need parentheses. NY(N)

batmagadanleadoff
Feb 21 2023 11:33 AM
Re: Three-Letter Codes (Insomnia Post)


I like NYM and NYY. PGH for Pittsburgh. PHI for Phillies.

Edgy MD wrote:



That's interesting. I really thought I might have been dreaming when I suggested there were still outlets using PGH for Pittsburgh.

=whippoorwill post_id=89753 time=1650396651 user_id=79]
Nope!



PIT means Pitt University



So if you saw a baseball scoreboard that listed NYM v PIT, you would think that the Mets were playing the Pitt Panthers?

kcmets
Feb 21 2023 11:45 AM
Re: Three-Letter Codes (Insomnia Post)

The whole enchilada...



"BS1","NA","Boston","Braves","1871","1875"

"CH1","NA","Chicago","White Stockings","1871","1871"

"CL1","NA","Cleveland","Forest Cities","1871","1872"

"FW1","NA","Ft. Wayne","Kekiongas","1871","1871"

"NY2","NA","New York","Mutuals","1871","1875"

"PH1","NA","Philadelphia","Athletics","1871","1875"

"RC1","NA","Rockford","Forest Citys","1871","1871"

"TRO","NA","Troy","Haymakers","1871","1872"

"WS3","NA","Washington","Olympics","1871","1872"

"BL1","NA","Baltimore","Lord Baltimores","1872","1874"

"BR1","NA","Brooklyn","Eckfords","1872","1872"

"BR2","NA","Brooklyn","Atlantics","1872","1875"

"MID","NA","Middletown","Mansfields","1872","1872"

"WS4","NA","Washington","Nationals","1872","1872"

"BL4","NA","Baltimore","Marylands","1873","1873"

"ELI","NA","Elizabeth","Resolutes","1873","1873"

"PH2","NA","Philadelphia","White Stockings","1873","1875"

"WS5","NA","Washington","Nationals","1873","1873"

"CH2","NA","Chicago","White Stockings","1874","1875"

"HR1","NA","Hartford","Dark Blues","1874","1875"

"KEO","NA","Keokuk","Westerns","1875","1875"

"NH1","NA","New Haven","New Havens","1875","1875"

"PH3","NA","Philadelphia","Centennials","1875","1875"

"SL1","NA","St. Louis","Red Stockings","1875","1875"

"SL2","NA","St. Louis","Brown Stockings","1875","1875"

"WS6","NA","Washington","Olympics","1875","1875"

"BSN","NL","Boston","Braves","1876","1952"

"CN1","NL","Cincinnati","Reds","1876","1880"

"CN4","NL","Cincinnati","Stars","1880","1880"

"HAR","NL","Hartford","Dark Blues","1876","1877"

"LS1","NL","Louisville","Grays","1876","1877"

"NY3","NL","New York","Mutuals","1876","1876"

"PHN","NL","Philadelphia","Athletics","1876","1876"

"SL3","NL","St. Louis","Brown Stockings","1876","1877"

"IN1","NL","Indianapolis","Blues","1878","1878"

"ML2","NL","Milwaukee","Cream Citys","1878","1878"

"PRO","NL","Providence","Grays","1878","1885"

"BFN","NL","Buffalo","Bisons","1879","1885"

"CL2","NL","Cleveland","Spiders","1879","1884"

"SR1","NL","Syracuse","Stars","1879","1879"

"TRN","NL","Troy","Trojans","1879","1882"

"WOR","NL","Worcester","Ruby Legs","1880","1882"

"DTN","NL","Detroit","Wolverines","1881","1888"

"BL2","AA","Baltimore","Orioles","1882","1889"

"CN2","AA","Cincinnati","Reds","1882","1889"

"LS2","AA","Louisville","Colonels","1882","1891"

"PH4","AA","Philadelphia","Athletics","1882","1891"

"PT1","AA","Pittsburgh","Pirates","1882","1886"

"SL4","AA","St. Louis","Cardinals","1882","1891"

"CL5","AA","Columbus","Colts","1883","1884"

"NY4","AA","New York","Metropolitans","1883","1887"

"NY1","NL","New York","Giants","1883","1957"

"BR3","AA","Brooklyn","Dodgers","1884","1889"

"IN2","AA","Indianapolis","Blues","1884","1884"

"RIC","AA","Richmond","Virginias","1884","1884"

"TL1","AA","Toledo","Blue Stockings","1884","1884"

"WS7","AA","Washington","Nationals","1884","1884"

"ALT","UA","Altoona","Mountain Citys","1884","1884"

"BLU","UA","Baltimore","Monumentals","1884","1884"

"BSU","UA","Boston","Reds","1884","1884"

"CHU","UA","Chicago-Pittsburgh","Browns","1884","1884"

"CNU","UA","Cincinnati","Outlaw Reds","1884","1884"

"KCU","UA","Kansas City","Cowboys","1884","1884"

"MLU","UA","Milwaukee","Brewers","1884","1884"

"PHU","UA","Philadelphia","Keystones","1884","1884"

"SLU","UA","St. Louis","Maroons","1884","1884"

"SPU","UA","St. Paul","Saints","1884","1884"

"WSU","UA","Washington","Nationals","1884","1884"

"WIL","UA","Wilmington","Quicksteps","1884","1884"

"SL5","NL","St. Louis","Maroons","1885","1886"

"KCN","NL","Kansas City","Cowboys","1886","1886"

"WS8","NL","Washington","Senators","1886","1889"

"CL3","AA","Cleveland","Spiders","1887","1888"

"IN3","NL","Indianapolis","Hoosiers","1887","1889"

"KC2","AA","Kansas City","Cowboys","1888","1889"

"CL6","AA","Columbus","Colts","1889","1891"

"CL4","NL","Cleveland","Spiders","1889","1899"

"BL3","AA","Baltimore","Orioles","1890","1891"

"BR4","AA","Brooklyn","Gladiators","1890","1890"

"RC2","AA","Rochester","Hop Bitters","1890","1890"

"SR2","AA","Syracuse","Stars","1890","1890"

"TL2","AA","Toledo","Maumees","1890","1890"

"BRO","NL","Brooklyn","Dodgers","1890","1957"

"BSP","PL","Boston","Reds","1890","1890"

"BRP","PL","Brooklyn","Wonders","1890","1890"

"BFP","PL","Buffalo","Bisons","1890","1890"

"CHP","PL","Chicago","Pirates","1890","1890"

"CLP","PL","Cleveland","Infants","1890","1890"

"NYP","PL","New York","Giants","1890","1890"

"PHP","PL","Philadelphia","Quakers","1890","1890"

"PTP","PL","Pittsburgh","Burghers","1890","1890"

"BS2","AA","Boston","Reds","1891","1891"

"CN3","AA","Cincinnati","Kelly's Killers","1891","1891"

"ML3","AA","Milwaukee","Brewers","1891","1891"

"WS9","AA","Washington","Senators","1891","1891"

"BLN","NL","Baltimore","Orioles","1892","1899"

"LS3","NL","Louisville","Colonels","1892","1899"

"WSN","NL","Washington","Senators","1892","1899"

"BLA","AL","Baltimore","Orioles","1901","1902"

"MLA","AL","Milwaukee","Brewers","1901","1901"

"PHA","AL","Philadelphia","Athletics","1901","1954"

"WS1","AL","Washington","Senators","1901","1960"

"SLA","AL","St.Louis","Browns","1902","1953"

"BLF","FL","Baltimore","Terrapins","1914","1915"

"BRF","FL","Brooklyn","Tip-Tops","1914","1915"

"BUF","FL","Buffalo","Blues","1914","1915"

"CHF","FL","Chicago","Whales","1914","1915"

"IND","FL","Indianapolis","Hoosiers","1914","1914"

"KCF","FL","Kansas City","Packers","1914","1915"

"PTF","FL","Pittsburgh","Rebels","1914","1915"

"SLF","FL","St.Louis","Terriers","1914","1915"

"NEW","FL","Newark","Peppers","1915","1915"

"MLN","NL","Milwaukee","Braves","1953","1965"

"FLO","NL","Florida","Marlins","1993","2011"

"KC1","AL","Kansas City","Athletics","1955","1967"

"LAA","AL","Los Angeles","Angels","1961","1964"

"CAL","AL","California","Angels","1965","1996"

"SE1","AL","Seattle","Pilots","1969","1969"

"MON","NL","Montreal","Expos","1969","2004"

"WS2","AL","Washington","Senators","1961","1971"

"MIL","AL","Milwaukee","Brewers","1970","1997"

"HOU","NL","Houston","Colts","1962","2012"

"ANA","AL","Anaheim","Angels","1997","2021"

"BAL","AL","Baltimore","Orioles","1954","2021"

"BOS","AL","Boston","Red Sox","1901","2021"

"CHA","AL","Chicago","White Sox","1901","2021"

"CLE","AL","Cleveland","Indians","1901","2021"

"DET","AL","Detroit","Tigers","1901","2021"

"HOU","AL","Houston","Astros","2013","2021"

"KCA","AL","Kansas City","Royals","1969","2021"

"MIN","AL","Minnesota","Twins","1961","2021"

"NYA","AL","New York","Yankees","1903","2021"

"OAK","AL","Oakland","Athletics","1968","2021"

"SEA","AL","Seattle","Mariners","1977","2021"

"TBA","AL","Tampa Bay","Devil Rays","1998","2021"

"TEX","AL","Texas","Rangers","1972","2021"

"TOR","AL","Toronto","Blue Jays","1977","2021"

"ARI","NL","Arizona","Diamondbacks","1998","2021"

"ATL","NL","Atlanta","Braves","1966","2021"

"CHN","NL","Chicago","Cubs","1876","2021"

"CIN","NL","Cincinnati","Reds","1890","2021"

"COL","NL","Colorado","Rockies","1993","2021"

"LAN","NL","Los Angeles","Dodgers","1958","2021"

"SDN","NL","San Diego","Padres","1969","2021"

"MIA","NL","Miami","Marlins","2012","2021"

"MIL","NL","Milwaukee","Brewers","1998","2021"

"NYN","NL","New York","Mets","1962","2021"

"PHI","NL","Philadelphia","Phillies","1883","2021"

"PIT","NL","Pittsburgh","Pirates","1887","2021"

"SFN","NL","San Francisco","Giants","1958","2021"

"SLN","NL","St. Louis","Cardinals","1892","2021"

"WAS","NL","Washington","Nationals","2005","2021"

https://www.retrosheet.org/TEAMABR.TXT



I would still go by what's on bbrdotcom, which gets its data from

Retrosheet, so it's all one pickle playing pepper hot mess.

batmagadanleadoff
Feb 21 2023 11:58 AM
Re: Three-Letter Codes (Insomnia Post)

I'd be able to figure out whatever MLB team is being referenced, no matter what three letter abbreviation is used.



That's just me, though.

whippoorwill
Feb 21 2023 12:29 PM
Re: Three-Letter Codes (Insomnia Post)



I like NYM and NYY. PGH for Pittsburgh. PHI for Phillies.

Edgy MD wrote:



That's interesting. I really thought I might have been dreaming when I suggested there were still outlets using PGH for Pittsburgh.

=whippoorwill post_id=89753 time=1650396651 user_id=79]
Nope!



PIT means Pitt University


So if you saw a baseball scoreboard that listed NYM v PIT, you would think that the Mets were playing the Pitt Panthers?



Actually when I just reread that what, 10 months later, I don't know what I was talking about!

kcmets
Feb 21 2023 12:30 PM
Re: Three-Letter Codes (Insomnia Post)

Of c=batmagadanleadoff post_id=118653 time=1677005905 user_id=68]
I'd be able to figure out whatever MLB team is being referenced, no matter what three letter abbreviation is used.



Of course.



But since we're picking nits here in mid February I was just injecting the

three digit abbreviations used by the organization that is pretty much the

industry standard to look at.

MFS62
Feb 21 2023 01:51 PM
Re: Three-Letter Codes (Insomnia Post)

Why SFN? What happened to the widely used SFG? Is there an American League team in San Francisco?

I'm ok with most of them, but I'd substitute SOS* for LAN.



Later



* = Spawn of Satan

vtmet7
Feb 21 2023 06:59 PM
Re: Three-Letter Codes (Insomnia Post)

I used to hate when I would see NYN and NYA for the Mets and Yanks

metsmarathon
Feb 22 2023 09:47 AM
Re: Three-Letter Codes (Insomnia Post)

bbref's football sister site has absolute madness going on for their TLAs.



witness: San FranciscO (SFO)



how? why? what? i guess it's the san franciso airport code, but that's a garbage reason. elsewise one of the damned jersey teams shoulda been abbreviated EWR already!



sadly, and becasue i just checked, their futbol site does NOT have TLAs for each of the futbol clubs out there. they just full-name them the whole damned time. what a wasted opportunity, that.

Edgy MD
Feb 22 2023 11:19 AM
Re: Three-Letter Codes (Insomnia Post)

You see? This matters!

metsmarathon
Feb 22 2023 11:37 AM
Re: Three-Letter Codes (Insomnia Post)




"KC1","AL","Kansas City","Athletics","1955","1967"

"KCA","AL","Kansas City","Royals","1969","2021"


madness!

batmagadanleadoff
Feb 22 2023 03:15 PM
Re: Three-Letter Codes (Insomnia Post)

=metsmarathon post_id=118706 time=1677084440 user_id=83]
bbref's football sister site has absolute madness going on for their TLAs.



witness: San FranciscO (SFO)



how? why? what? i guess it's the san franciso airport code, but that's a garbage reason.



It took me longer than it should have to figure out where the O came from. Anyways. San Fran should be SF. The Padres should be SD. If you must have three characters, for computer or coding or database reasons, then make the third character a blank, where necessary. Like for SF. Or SD.