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roger_that
May 28 2022 10:47 AM

Actually, he seems bright enough to me, just liked the word play.



A lot of talk of trading him for pitching. Let's examine.



At this point in his career (turning 27 in a few weeks, nearly 1200 MLB at-bats) we know who he is, what he can do, what he can't.



Knowing that is a plus, but a minus too, because other teams know what we know.



So that puts a cap on the quality of pitching you're going to get back for him. Fairly limited.



As stated elsewhere. I strongly oppose trading position players for pitchers, generally, across the board. But in Dom's case, more so. And in his present situation, especially.



His present case being “struggling.” That generally understates the return you'll get for him.



With his track record established as it is now, we know that “struggling” doesn't matter much in the long haul. A reasonable expectation is that he'll start hitting soon. No reason to think otherwise.



Being a lefty, he's limited in the positions he's capable of playing, and practically he's limited even more to LF and IB, which he's played just about equally in the bigs.



As long as Alonso remains healthy, Dom's mostly a LFer. Given the Mets who can do a good job in LF (Canha, and McNeil) that makes him a LFer, DH, and pinch hitter. Low OBP guy, decent SLG guy—you can live with that for a month or two if injuries hit, either at 1B or LF.



He also has one advantage over most left-handed OF-IB guys—he seems to have a reverse platoon thing. So far, and it's far enough to begin to draw conclusions about his capacities, that means he can play everyday if you need him to.



So he's of limited value, but we know what those limits are. And we need a good backup LF-1Ber who can DH respectably and PH.



Everybody does, but you're not going to get a starting pitcher back for him who's a hair better than your best AAA pitcher.



So I say stop the chatter about trading him for a starting pitcher.

Ceetar
May 28 2022 11:28 AM
Re: Dom the dum-dum

The Mets have no depth, so absolutely if you can get someone better than Trevor Williams, or at this point maybe even on par with Williams, you do it for a guy with no real future with the team who also isn't very good.



But that's just it. He's not particularly good, and I don't think you're fooling anyone on a few BABIP enhanced short season samples from 2019-2020. He's only generally used in a platoon split already, including those two seasons. He plays a good defensive 1B, so I guess there's a chance a team needs a good backup guy there and also a lefty bat, but even so you're probably not getting much for him. Maybe if you find a contract that's unpalatable that someone wants to dump? But with a big lead and the Mets holding serve so far with some reinforcements coming back at some point, it seems unlikely the Mets have the appetite to spend in this situation.

vtmet7
May 28 2022 12:28 PM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 28 2022 12:29 PM

while I like Dom, he's redundant...he's a 1B (Pete owns the position, so he's just a caddy); he's a DH (not the hardest position to find someone that can do what he's done so far); he's a LFer (he's somewhat defensively challenged in the OF, and his offense there isn't even league average for LF)...is he really bringing anything (so far this season) that a Mark Vientos, a Jake Mangum or even a JD Davis couldn't?



problem is though...Dom has floundered offensively since the beginning of 2021...so realistically, would he fetch more than a mediocre reliever or 5th starter anyhow at this point? Trading him at the end of 2020, he had value...but did he retain any of that value?

roger_that
May 28 2022 12:29 PM
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a guy with no real future with the team who also isn't very good.




That's just it. You don't need Dom to have a "real future." He's not here for the future--he's here for right now, in case Pete pulls a hamstring or Canha goes down for a month or so. He can step into the role of your short-term primary LFer or IB man and you don't have to make any panicky moves. meanwhile he can DH or PH for you and do a creditable job. If he were much better, or you had reasonable hopes that he would get much better given more playing time, then you'd have to expand his role, which would create conflicts with Canha or McNeil or even Alonso, but he isn't and you don't. He is what is, and he does a decent job at the role he plays.



If you traded him for someone like Trevor Williams, you'd then need someone to fill his role on the team, and I don't think that pitcher would be much of an improvement over a AAA pitcher, or what you could pick up on the waiver wire, and when Scherzer or deGrom gets back in a few weeks, you'd probably have to cut that pitcher from the big-league squad anyway.

kcmets
May 28 2022 12:32 PM
Re: Dom the dum-dum

I thought for sure I was going to open this thread and learn that Dom got

pulled over on the Grand Central Parkway smoking a big fatty, tested positive

for PED's or knocked up a minor.



Jumping to conclusions = bad

Johnny Lunchbucket
May 28 2022 12:37 PM
Re: Dom the dum-dum

I tried to make clear already that the plan wasn't to trade away Dom Smith but to acquire a starting pitcher.



To the extent that the club has any mlb talent to spare Smith is the most tradeable at this moment. Also, saying for the third time, Smith would theoretically make sense in a deal with a club like Cincinnati that would take less in a deal were they to also offload a problematic contract, which they happen to have in Moustakas. So if the Mets to take him on, you'd create further redundancy for a lefthanded hitting bench guy -- which would require the club to make a decision on Smith anyway. Therefore a hypothetical deal with the Reds could make sense were Smith to be included.



Third time I've said this

roger_that
May 28 2022 01:01 PM
Re: Dom the dum-dum

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote:
a club like Cincinnati that would take less in a deal were they to also offload a problematic contract, which they happen to have in Moustakas.


You're pretty good at spending Steve Cohen's money, but to what end? Moustakas gives us a pretty even equivalent for Dom, same kind of offense, only he's no good if Alonso goes down for a stretch or if we get a sudden hole in the OF, plus he's 33 years years old as opposed to 26, and on the downslide end of his career. Also, we need another 3Bman like Custer needed more indians. Which of Cincinnati's star pitchers are you fantasizing they would toss in to get rid of Moustakas' contract?

Edgy MD
May 28 2022 01:06 PM
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The Mets don't have zero depth. I hope that's not too controversial a thought.



Beyond that, the DH makes depth less of a concern with all teams, sadly.

Johnny Lunchbucket
May 28 2022 01:11 PM
Re: Dom the dum-dum

Edited 2 time(s), most recently on May 28 2022 01:42 PM


Johnny Lunchbucket wrote:
a club like Cincinnati that would take less in a deal were they to also offload a problematic contract, which they happen to have in Moustakas.


You're pretty good at spending Steve Cohen's money, but to what end? Moustakas gives us a pretty even equivalent for Dom, same kind of offense, only he's no good if Alonso goes down for a stretch or if we get a sudden hole in the OF, plus he's 33 years years old as opposed to 26, and on the downslide end of his career. Also, we need another 3Bman like Custer needed more indians. Which of Cincinnati's star pitchers are you fantasizing they would toss in to get rid of Moustakas' contract?


I suggested they look at Luis Castillo



And I didn't make up the idea of spending Cohens money-- that suggestion came from an article by a national baseball writer that said Cohen would consider such deals as a means to obtain what they really want. You seem to think this about coveting Moustakas or hating Smith-' its not.

roger_that
May 28 2022 01:29 PM
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OK, not bad, but how did things work out the last time they acquired Luis Castillo?

Edgy MD
May 28 2022 01:45 PM
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Pretty good, actually.



Signing him to a four-year deal after that, not so much.

Johnny Lunchbucket
May 28 2022 01:57 PM
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Yeah his contract was too long and he made one regrettably big mistake he'll never be forgiven for but he wasn't a bad solution at a time when the Mets couldn't find any second basemen worth a shit.



Anyway that was also like the 5th "Dos Manos" remark since this Luis Castillo's name came up. But he represents the kinda reliable arm we could probably get now, and use now, unless we're resigned to shittier guys on waiver deals or taking our chances with Szapucki again

roger_that
May 28 2022 02:36 PM
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Just my way of saying that it's neither a bad deal nor an implausible one, if they can do it. Whether Cincy will bite, who knows? But I don't expect they will. Worth trying.

roger_that
May 31 2022 01:11 PM
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Sent down to Syracuse. That settles that.

batmagadanleadoff
May 31 2022 01:30 PM
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=roger_that post_id=94181 time=1654024260 user_id=128]
Sent down to Syracuse. That settles that.



Looks like Dom got plummered. Still hasn't even hit a HR this season.

Johnny Lunchbucket
May 31 2022 01:31 PM
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Wow, but the Steve Trachsel Cure seems to be just what he needs

seawolf17
May 31 2022 01:38 PM
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Johnny Lunchbucket wrote:

Wow, but the Steve Trachsel Cure seems to be just what he needs


Yup. He's going to hit .600 over the next couple of weeks and he'll be back.

bmfc1
May 31 2022 01:45 PM
Re: Dom the dum-dum

Pete gets to take a breather when he DHs and Dom has been at 1st. With Dom gone, Canha and JD are the back-ups at first.

They also face a LHP tonight and likely tomorrow so Dom wouldn't start and with Williams starting you don't expect more than 5 innings so another RP is more helpful than Dom's left-handed bat for these days.

nymr83
May 31 2022 02:29 PM
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He'll be back, bit right now the best Mets lineup doesnt include him and neither do options #2 or #3. Guillorme, with his defensive contributions, is arguably the more valuable player anyway. If Dom cant outhit Plummer, Mangum, Lee, Davis, etc then he doesnt have a role here.



Wish the Mets had sold high after 2020, but it is what it is.

roger_that
May 31 2022 02:55 PM
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He does have value in that he's not really a .190 BA, 0 HR guy, and by playing an excellent 1B he allows Alonso an occasional day off at DH.

Frayed Knot
May 31 2022 03:06 PM
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It's the right move at the right time.

I don't think he's toast but he needs to play more than he needs a half dozen ABs/week up here.

roger_that
May 31 2022 03:13 PM
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Still, if they woulda done this a few weeks ago, we coulda kept Cano.



Never mind.

ashie62
May 31 2022 03:23 PM
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I would dump Dom like a cheap suit. He just can't hit, period.

roger_that
May 31 2022 03:27 PM
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=ashie62 post_id=94213 time=1654032187 user_id=90]
I would dump Dom like a cheap suit. He just can't hit, period.


Lifetime OPS+ of 100 in almost 1200 ABs.

MFS62
May 31 2022 03:29 PM
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He's a decent fielder at first base and maybe he'll catch some of prospect third baseman Mark Vientos' errant throws. (he has close to double digit errors so far this year). I think Mark's fielding may be causing his recent hitting funk. (And I have no numbers to back that up)

I hope when Dom comes back up, he'll bring a revitalized Mark with him.

Later

Edgy MD
May 31 2022 03:33 PM
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=roger_that post_id=94216 time=1654032472 user_id=128]
=ashie62 post_id=94213 time=1654032187 user_id=90]
I would dump Dom like a cheap suit. He just can't hit, period.


Lifetime OPS+ of 100 in almost 1200 ABs.


Under pressure, Dom folds like a hot potato.



It's time they bite a blind eye and stop turning the bullet away from all the facts.

Gwreck
May 31 2022 03:44 PM
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=bmfc1 post_id=94188 time=1654026350 user_id=73]
Pete gets to take a breather when he DHs and Dom has been at 1st. With Dom gone, Canha and JD are the back-ups at first.



I would bet Guillorme can play first too (and I would definitely put him there before I would Davis).

Edgy MD
May 31 2022 04:08 PM
Re: Dom the dum-dum

Lunchbucket trade target Luis Castillo goes tonight at Fenway as the Sox counter with ex-Met (who has been surprisingly crushing it) Michael Wacha.

Johnny Lunchbucket
May 31 2022 04:45 PM
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Reds need a successor to Votto at 1B, is all I'm saying (not all but hey)

bmfc1
May 31 2022 05:21 PM
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=bmfc1 post_id=94188 time=1654026350 user_id=73]
Pete gets to take a breather when he DHs and Dom has been at 1st. With Dom gone, Canha and JD are the back-ups at first.

They also face a LHP tonight and likely tomorrow so Dom wouldn't start and with Williams starting you don't expect more than 5 innings so another RP is more helpful than Dom's left-handed bat for these days.


Escobar can also play 1B.

Edgy MD
May 31 2022 06:09 PM
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If Davis is going to play the field once a week, first is as good as anywhere.



If our problem is defense from our backup firstbaseman, who hasn't actually had to play there since 2018 (though he did get three games there last year with Syracuse), life is going almost too well.

Fman99
May 31 2022 06:35 PM
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He needs to come to the Cuse and hit .450 and play every day. I'll cheer like hell for him up here.

ashie62
May 31 2022 06:43 PM
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He is waiting to be traded nothing more nothing less.

nymr83
May 31 2022 07:44 PM
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=roger_that post_id=94216 time=1654032472 user_id=128]
=ashie62 post_id=94213 time=1654032187 user_id=90]
I would dump Dom like a cheap suit. He just can't hit, period.


Lifetime OPS+ of 100 in almost 1200 ABs.


Which is subpar for a DH/1st baseman, but not a guy you are going to release when he still has club options. there is value there. just not nearly the value there appeared to be 2 years ago.

Willets Point
May 31 2022 08:22 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:

Lunchbucket trade target Luis Castillo goes tonight at Fenway as the Sox counter with ex-Met (who has been surprisingly crushing it) Michael Wacha.


I saw Castillo pitch 6 innings of 1-hit ball in person tonight and I'm the Lunchbucket Bandwagon. Wacha pitched well too, allowing only 1 unearned run in the loss.

Edgy MD
May 31 2022 08:46 PM
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Mmmm ... lunchwagon.

smg58
Jun 01 2022 06:26 AM
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Smith thrived under Chili Davis, so the potential is there, but right now getting regular ABs at AAA will do him some good. Plummer is already doing better than Smith was doing, and they have at least a few options at first (Canha has a fair amount of experience at the position) if needed.

roger_that
Jun 01 2022 06:41 AM
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Willets Point wrote:

Edgy MD wrote:

Lunchbucket trade target Luis Castillo goes tonight at Fenway as the Sox counter with ex-Met (who has been surprisingly crushing it) Michael Wacha.

I saw Castillo pitch 6 innings of 1-hit ball in person tonight and I'm the Lunchbucket Bandwagon. Wacha pitched well too, allowing only 1 unearned run in the loss.

Well, this just brings up my major issue with the Lunchbucket thesis of "How the World Works": will Cincinnati trade a decent pitcher for Dom Smith? Even with a bad contract tossed in the deal to sweeten it for them?



Maybe, but there's no evidence they will.



This is like one of those "Let's trade Elio Chacon for Willie Mays!!" proposals--sure, I'm all for it. All you have to do is get the Giants to go for it.

Johnny Lunchbucket
Jun 01 2022 07:11 AM
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What "evidence" aside from a deal would convince you?



I'll bet a beer Moustakas gets traded within 30 days, and the magnitude of who goes with him will rest on how much of his salary the acquirer absorbs.



The only thing working against my plan now is that Castillo is going good enough to almost command a considerable prospect alone. We could get that deal done too, but probably not today. My deal is beautiful and strategic and exciting because it could work NOW. Castillo and Williams are even aligned on start dates, he could get 2 starts in as a Met during this upcoming road trip.

ashie62
Jun 01 2022 07:14 AM
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=MFS62 post_id=94217 time=1654032583 user_id=60]
He's a decent fielder at first base and maybe he'll catch some of prospect third baseman Mark Vientos' errant throws. (he has close to double digit errors so far this year). I think Mark's fielding may be causing his recent hitting funk. (And I have no numbers to back that up)

I hope when Dom comes back up, he'll bring a revitalized Mark with him.

Later



Nothing on the last two years.

ashie62
Jun 01 2022 07:16 AM
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Edgy MD wrote:

=roger_that post_id=94216 time=1654032472 user_id=128]
=ashie62 post_id=94213 time=1654032187 user_id=90]
I would dump Dom like a cheap suit. He just can't hit, period.

Lifetime OPS+ of 100 in almost 1200 ABs.



Under pressure, Dom folds like a hot pota



It's time they bite a blind eye and stop turning the bullet away from all the facts.


Shading me?

roger_that
Jun 01 2022 07:21 AM
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Johnny Lunchbucket wrote:

Castillo is going good enough to almost command a considerable prospect alone.


That's kinda what I'm saying. Castillo at this point, in his career and in this season, seems to me worth MUCH more than Dom, and worth more than Dom + picking up a bad contract. At this point, I'd say Dom's irrelevant to such a deal, which would rest much more on a VERY attractive prospect from the Mets. Dom would be a throw in.

Johnny Lunchbucket
Jun 01 2022 07:38 AM
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Maybe. But every minute Moustakas remains a Red the club flushes more $$ down the toilet, so don't underestimate their motivation to do something. That's in part why I raised this weeks ago.



The Mets in the meantime have a different near-term motivation-' the hardest stretch of their season is arriving at the moment when their starting pitching has never been more vulnerable.



GET OFF YOUR ASS AND MAKE THIS HAPPEN NOW BILLY!!!!11

ashie62
Jun 01 2022 08:11 AM
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It's going to take more than Dom or JD to get Moustakas or Castillo.I would zone on on Castillo for now as that is where the need is

Johnny Lunchbucket
Jun 01 2022 09:07 AM
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=ashie62 post_id=94300 time=1654092698 user_id=90]
It's going to take more than Dom or JD to get Moustakas or Castillo.I would zone on on Castillo for now as that is where the need is



FFS. Do you even read posts?

metsmarathon
Jun 01 2022 09:59 AM
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it should take much less than dom to "get" moustakas.



it should take more than dom to get castillo. that "more" may equal the subtraction of moustakas and the >$30M he's owed until the end of next year. that's a BIG dollar amount.



i'm struggling to find any other BAD contracts that would make much sense for a team to be as interested in dumping on us as the reds should be on mous. it'd almost be malpractice for the reds not to pounce on the mets sniffing around that albatross.

Johnny Lunchbucket
Jun 01 2022 10:35 AM
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I'll add also it's obvious they're talking as the Riddle deal showed. Saw where Tyler Mahle was also rumored to be on the Reds block-- they'd obviously prefer to lose him than Castillo, but he's not aggressively awful in an emergency way and wouldn't cost much probably

Edgy MD
Jun 01 2022 10:49 AM
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They might also be willing to be generous for some relief on Votto's salary.



As the Devin Mesoraco/Matt Harvey deal represents, they've looked to the Mets for salary dumping before.

ashie62
Jun 01 2022 11:11 AM
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Johnny Lunchbucket wrote:

=ashie62 post_id=94300 time=1654092698 user_id=90]
It's going to take more than Dom or JD to get Moustakas or Castillo.I would zone on on Castillo for now as that is where the need is


FFS. Do you even read posts?



Obviously I missed this one. Rat Prick

Edgy MD
Jun 01 2022 11:13 AM
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Ain't nobody a rat prick. Ain't nobody a bisexual turd.

A Boy Named Seo
Jun 01 2022 11:38 AM
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Willets Point wrote:

Edgy MD wrote:

Lunchbucket trade target Luis Castillo goes tonight at Fenway as the Sox counter with ex-Met (who has been surprisingly crushing it) Michael Wacha.

I saw Castillo pitch 6 innings of 1-hit ball in person tonight and I'm the Lunchbucket Bandwagon. Wacha pitched well too, allowing only 1 unearned run in the loss.

Well, this just brings up my major issue with the Lunchbucket thesis of "How the World Works": will Cincinnati trade a decent pitcher for Dom Smith? Even with a bad contract tossed in the deal to sweeten it for them?



Maybe, but there's no evidence they will.



This is like one of those "Let's trade Elio Chacon for Willie Mays!!" proposals--sure, I'm all for it. All you have to do is get the Giants to go for it.


If there's such a thing as evidence that the Reds would make this kind of trade, it's that they already did a few months ago. They sent Jesse Winker to the Mariners for three younger players (and a PTBNL), but made the Mariners take the rest of Eugenio Suarez's contract to make it happen.



Who knows what it would ultimately take to get Castillo, but as lots of peeps have already said here, Dom and Moustakas make great sense as part of that potential trade.

vtmet7
Jun 01 2022 01:24 PM
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=batmagadanleadoff post_id=94184 time=1654025401 user_id=68]
=roger_that post_id=94181 time=1654024260 user_id=128]
Sent down to Syracuse. That settles that.



Looks like Dom got plummered. Still hasn't even hit a HR this season.


Well he did say recently that he loves being on the Mets but would like to go someplace that he could play every day. So, he got both: he gets to play every day for the (Syracuse) Mets

Chad ochoseis
Jun 01 2022 01:45 PM
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This whole thing is similar to what happens when a law is passed that alcohol can't be served without food. Some restaurant gets cute and sells individual potato chips for $10, but they throw in a free beer.



Here, we can't just out and out buy Luis Castillo, so the deal would be that we'd effectively write them a check for $46 million for Moustakas, who has about as much value as a potato chip, and give them Dom Smith, and we'd get ourselves Luis Castillo as part of the deal.



As a fan, you can't not like this, because all it's costing us is a 1B/DH who we all love but who probably doesn't have a place in this org anymore. There's a lot of money involved, but it's Steve's...doesn't cost us anything.



But is half a year of Luis Castillo really worth picking up the remaining $46M of the Moustakas contract plus parting ways with Dom? I'd have to say no.

Edgy MD
Jun 01 2022 01:51 PM
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I can so not like it.



Here, let me try ... . Yup. There it is.

Johnny Lunchbucket
Jun 01 2022 04:41 PM
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Chad ochoseis wrote:





But is half a year of Luis Castillo really worth picking up the remaining $46M of the Moustakas contract plus parting ways with Dom? I'd have to say no.


Castillo is arb-eligible so more than half-a-year if we like him.



We're trying to win a World Series here. At least I am. Were the Mets in their typical point in a season, where the questions as to whether they'll make the playoffs, wind up 10 games over, or 10 games under all seem to be equal bets, I don't advocate for a deal like this.



"That's how it's done in the big leagues, Johnson. You see an opening-- you GO for it!"

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Edgy MD
Jun 05 2022 08:38 AM
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Bombinic.


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vtmet7
Jun 05 2022 12:44 PM
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I guess Dom deserves an A for the day...or maybe 3 or 4 A's...as in, is he slumping because of not enough use...is he waking back up getting to see AAA pitching, and will get himself back into his 2020 self (which likely had a lot of AAA type pitching due to COVID)...or is he a quintessential "AAAA" player that is too good for AAA, but not fully up to snuff at the MLB level...

batmagadanleadoff
Jun 05 2022 08:42 PM
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Don's made more major league money than any of his Syracuse Mets teammates -- about $4 milion, to date, and it's not even close. So the Big Macs are on him.

nymr83
Jun 05 2022 10:18 PM
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Whether Dom is a AAAA player or a major league talent I don't think we really know.



To me, at this point, I think the most likely answer is that he is the kind of player who will hit to a 100 OPS+ long term while providing good defense and 1B and below average defense in an outfield corner.



Players like that are desirable while under team control (pre-arb or year to year arbitration) and with options years. Players like this aren't worth much in the trade market and can be readily acquired for a few of Steve's millions any offseason after that point.



If the Reds want to dump salary and gift us Castillo in a deal that includes Dom Smith, his inclusion shouldn't in any way hold up a trade. I would likely trade him 1-1 for any reliever who the Mets feel who improve the bullpen at this point.

roger_that
Jun 05 2022 10:50 PM
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=nymr83 post_id=94906 time=1654489081 user_id=54]
Whether Dom is a AAAA player or a major league talent I don't think we really know.



Au contraire. As per the OP, we know precisely what he can and what he can't do, pretty much what you state. He's a useful warm body to those teams who have a mild need for that precise type of body. Maybe Cincy is, as Lunchbucket keeps yammering, one of those teams, though I still think he's dreaming about getting Castillo in exchange for him, or in exchange for a pile of hims. Steve Cohen could BUY Castillo, in the form of taking some evil contracts off their hands, and maybe tossing in Dom as a goodwill gesture, like the prize in a box of Crackerjacks, but that's hardly the same thing. No one buys Crackerjacks for the prize.

kcmets
Jun 06 2022 08:10 AM
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I've known 'bucket for like two decades, hasn't yammered once in

those twenty years.

Edgy MD
Jun 06 2022 08:44 AM
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I don't think we precisely know anything about Dom Smith and the future.



We can shave away at ambiguity, but the core remains. As appealing as the idea of precision is, the reality is that Dom could be the 2023 MVP or be out of baseball. As data piles up, one outcome becomes more likely, and another becomes less, but until death, none is eliminated. And so we play the games.