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Wainwright + Molina: Help Plz + Bonus Trivia

Johnny Lunchbucket Jun 05 2022 10:19 AM

Help me out here. These guys are currently the 1 (Yadi) and 2 (Wainwright) longest-serving players in MLB, AND have been teammates for 17 years (Molina debuted in 04, Wainwright in 05) AND have never played a game for any other franchise. I'm trying to find a list of other duos in baseball history that fit the latter 2 distinctions (played entire careers with 1 franchise AND had concurrent tenures with another 1-franchise player for 17 seasons or more). For whatever reason google's not giving me that. Just eyeballing a Wikipedia site of players with careers of 10-years or more with only 1 franchise (there's only 185 of them) the longest teammate stretch I can find is 19 years: Trammel-Whitaker (77-95) 19 years: Jeter+Rivera 17 years: Clemente & Mazeroski (56-72) 17 years: Gantner+Yount (76-92) 17 years: Jeter+Posada; Rivera+Posada --am I overlooking others? I can tell you why I need to know this soon. BONUS TRIVIA: Name the Mets duo who were only Mets, had careers or 10 years or more, and were teammates for the most seasons. Names and number of years must be correct

Benjamin Grimm Jun 05 2022 10:25 AM Re: Wainwright + Molina: Help Plz + Bonus Trivia

Ed Kranepool (17) and Ron Hodges (12). Seven of those years overlapped.

Johnny Lunchbucket Jun 05 2022 10:29 AM Re: Wainwright + Molina: Help Plz

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Ed Kranepool (17) and Ron Hodges (12). Seven of those years overlapped. You win. My other question remains!

Edgy MD Jun 05 2022 11:10 AM Re: Wainwright + Molina: Help Plz + Bonus Trivia

Bench and Concepción. OE: Not quite.

Edgy MD Jun 05 2022 11:18 AM Re: Wainwright + Molina: Help Plz + Bonus Trivia

Belanger and Palmer. BAM!

Johnny Lunchbucket Jun 05 2022 11:24 AM Re: Wainwright + Molina: Help Plz + Bonus Trivia

Edgy MD wrote: Belanger and Palmer. BAM! Nope--Belanger played his final season with the Dodgers! This part isn't really trivia, because I also don't know the answer. I was just hoping oneayou knew a way to query bbr for this kinda shit

Edgy MD Jun 05 2022 11:36 AM Re: Wainwright + Molina: Help Plz + Bonus Trivia

Fuckin' Dodgers. I had no idea!

Edgy MD Jun 05 2022 11:40 AM Re: Wainwright + Molina: Help Plz + Bonus Trivia

An interesting unintentional outcome of recognizing Negro League service as Major League service is that many players who had previously been understood as single-MLB-franchise players no longer so qualify.

Edgy MD Jun 05 2022 11:52 AM Re: Wainwright + Molina: Help Plz + Bonus Trivia

Figured out one: George Brett and Frank White. Jim Gantner, man. Who knew?

batmagadanleadoff Jun 05 2022 12:57 PM Re: Wainwright + Molina: Help Plz + Bonus Trivia

Mickey Mantle (51-68) and Whitey Ford (50-67) would've also had this record at 17 years but a year after Ford debuted in 1950, he missed the next two seasons due to the Korean War. Otherwise, they would've been teammates from '51-'67. They were teammates for 15 years (53-67).

DocTee Jun 06 2022 06:22 AM Re: Wainwright + Molina: Help Plz + Bonus Trivia

Ryan Zimmermann (17) and Stephen Strasburg (12) might make it to your list one day. I suppose lots of duos might, but they probably have the best shot?

MFS62 Jun 06 2022 07:49 AM Re: Wainwright + Molina: Help Plz + Bonus Trivia

When I see those two names in a thread title, I was hoping it would be about [CROSSOUT]a Duaner Sanchez- type incident[/CROSSOUT] mutual retirement. Later

stevejrogers Jun 06 2022 07:57 AM Re: Wainwright + Molina: Help Plz + Bonus Trivia

=DocTee post_id=94913 time=1654518132 user_id=85] Ryan Zimmermann (17) and Stephen Strasburg (12) might make it to your list one day. I suppose lots of duos might, but they probably have the best shot?

FWIW, Zimmerman opted out of 2020, so technically, if you want to use BatMags' Mantle/Ford example, it ended there.



Also Zimmerman called it a career before the season and is having his number 11 retired by the Nats a week from Saturday!

Edgy MD Jun 06 2022 08:05 AM Re: Wainwright + Molina: Help Plz + Bonus Trivia

So, the best shot then belongs to Alonso and McNasty?

MFS62 Jun 06 2022 08:30 AM Re: Wainwright + Molina: Help Plz + Bonus Trivia

Edgy MD wrote: So, the best shot then belongs to Alonso and McNasty? DeGrom and McNeil pre-date that pair by one year, so that duo is (hopefully, considering DeGrom's age and injuries) also a remote possibility. Later

Benjamin Grimm Jun 06 2022 08:35 AM Re: Wainwright + Molina: Help Plz + Bonus Trivia

Conforto hasn't been eliminated from this category yet.

seawolf17 Jun 06 2022 08:47 AM Re: Wainwright + Molina: Help Plz + Bonus Trivia

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Conforto hasn't been eliminated from this category yet. He has, because he's not teammates with any Mets this season. (If he was on the roster or the DL, then I'd say yes.)

Johnny Lunchbucket Jun 06 2022 08:58 AM Re: Wainwright + Molina: Help Plz + Bonus Trivia

So I can now reveal why I asked this question... was assigned a quick thing on this campaign for work and was embargoed till this morning. Here's the money shot. I know these guys have a lotta blue and orange blood on their hands but this made me feel good as a baseball fan [YOUTUBE]05psz5WEbzc[/YOUTUBE]

Edgy MD Jun 06 2022 10:02 AM Re: Wainwright + Molina: Help Plz + Bonus Trivia

Did Brett and White make the cut? I'm still getting used to the idea that active players are allowed to do beer ads.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 06 2022 10:07 AM Re: Wainwright + Molina: Help Plz + Bonus Trivia

I don't know if there was ever a full on ban preventing active players from doing beer ads but players were banned from wearing their uniforms while doing those ads. That's probably still true.

Johnny Lunchbucket Jun 06 2022 10:22 AM Re: Wainwright + Molina: Help Plz + Bonus Trivia

Edgy MD wrote: Did Brett and White make the cut? I'm still getting used to the idea that active players are allowed to do beer ads. I was not able to get definitive in my question so I said these guys were "among" storied one-team-only teammates like Brett & White; Jeter + Rivera and Trammel-Whitaker. Story is here, don;t think it's paywalled but probably registration-walled. I get extra kudos when my links turn into registrations so if you wanna, have at it-- https://adage.com/article/marketing-news-strategy/budweiser-campaign-salutes-mlbs-yadier-molina-adam-wainwright/2419336 I don't know if there was ever a full on ban preventing active players from doing beer ads but players were banned from wearing their uniforms while doing those ads. That's probably still true. Explains why they're only shown having beer in street clothes--plus from an ad perspective, turns them from supermen to regular beer-drinking guys like you and me. Campaign btw is associated with a free baseball trip giveaway sweepstakes for "National Best Friends Day" this week.

Frayed Knot Jun 06 2022 11:53 AM Re: Wainwright + Molina: Help Plz + Bonus Trivia

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: =batmagadanleadoff post_id=94961 time=1654531646 user_id=68] I don't know if there was ever a full on ban preventing active players from doing beer ads but players were banned from wearing their uniforms while doing those ads. That's probably still true. Explains why they're only shown having beer in street clothes--plus from an ad perspective, turns them from supermen to regular beer-drinking guys like you and me.

Commercials showing players in street clothes or in some generic uni generally means that that product isn't an official sponsor of MLB and so can't use the copyrighted logos.

Budweiser obviously is connected enough to have permission, especially seeing as how much of the ad shows both players in StL duds. One rule, IIRC, was that you could

show athletes (or even just actors) handling alcohol in commercials but not actually drinking it and Waino/Yadi never do put their lips on the glasses in those closing shots.



Good ad though.