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Happy Valentine's Week!

batmagadanleadoff
Jun 09 2022 12:14 AM
Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Jun 10 2022 12:54 AM

Three straight series! Three straight card threads! Three straight Bobby Valentine appearances! (Rickey Henderson and Craig Shipley, too!)





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stevejrogers
Jun 09 2022 03:39 AM
Re: Happy Valentine's Week!

Love the Topps Photoshop rendering to make early 1980s Shea into Anaheim Stadium on that Ellis Valentine 1983 Topps card.

batmagadanleadoff
Jun 09 2022 09:12 PM
Re: Happy Valentine's Week!


Love the Topps Photoshop rendering to make early 1980s Shea into Anaheim Stadium on that Ellis Valentine 1983 Topps card.


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Yeah, that's pretty neat photoshopping for 1983. Was Photoshop even around in 1983? PC's hadn't yet reached mass consumption, or anything remotely close, in 1983. They were still in the early adopter stage in '83. But Topps left the stadium untouched. What it did, I think, was only to transform Valentine's Mets uni into an Angels uni.





I don't think Topps ever messed with the stadiums. Like on this 1973 card of Bobby Valentine, just below Ellis's:



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The card is represented as an Angels card. But the photo is from Bobby's Dodger stint. The photo depicts an action shot at Dodgers Stadium. Again, Topps "fixed" the uniform, removing the Dodgers chest wordmark and adding Angels racing stripes to the uni. No need to mess with the hat because the front LA logo isn't visible.

Edgy MD
Jun 09 2022 09:31 PM
Re: Happy Valentine's Week!

I think I read earlier that today has been the anniversary of Bobby-in-Disguise Day.

batmagadanleadoff
Jun 09 2022 09:45 PM
Re: Happy Valentine's Week!

Edgy MD wrote:

I think I read earlier that today has been the anniversary of Bobby-in-Disguise Day.


Yes. The 23rd anniversary! It really is Valentine Week.

Edgy MD
Jun 09 2022 09:51 PM
Re: Happy Valentine's Week!

I know Mo Vaughn wore it and stuff, but that uni Terry Collins is rocking didn't really do it for anybody, did it?

batmagadanleadoff
Jun 09 2022 09:57 PM
Re: Happy Valentine's Week!

Edgy MD wrote:

I know Mo Vaughn wore it and stuff, but that uni Terry Collins is rocking didn't really do it for anybody, did it?


Agreed. I hate those unis. They're from when Disney owned the Angels for about five or six years. They did win their only WS, though, under Disney.

Willets Point
Jun 10 2022 08:14 AM
Re: Happy Valentine's Week!



Love the Topps Photoshop rendering to make early 1980s Shea into Anaheim Stadium on that Ellis Valentine 1983 Topps card.


[FIMG=277]http://img.comc.com/original/b8443e4b-bc0b-4aaa-88c9-5ad9c970067e.jpg[/FIMG]



Yeah, that's pretty neat photoshopping for 1983. Was Photoshop even around in 1983? PC's hadn't yet reached mass consumption, or anything remotely close, in 1983. They were still in the early adopter stage in '83. But Topps left the stadium untouched. What it did, I think, was only to transform Valentine's Mets uni into an Angels uni.




It is accurate to say that Topps airbrushed the cards rather than photoshopped. It's kind of like watching an old movie with my kids and they say "That's such bad CGI!" and I have to say "No. CGI hadn't been invented yet. That's bad chroma key."

seawolf17
Jun 10 2022 10:36 AM
Re: Happy Valentine's Week!

And they didn't do anything to the stadiums and backgrounds in those days, just to the uniforms. That's definitely a Shea dugout.

Johnny Lunchbucket
Jun 10 2022 11:23 AM
Re: Happy Valentine's Week!


Edgy MD wrote:

I know Mo Vaughn wore it and stuff, but that uni Terry Collins is rocking didn't really do it for anybody, did it?


Agreed. I hate those unis. They're from when Disney owned the Angels for about five or six years. They did win their only WS, though, under Disney.


IMO maybe the worst MLB baseball uni ever

Edgy MD
Jun 10 2022 11:33 AM
Re: Happy Valentine's Week!

PhotoShop, by the by, hit the market in 1989.

batmagadanleadoff
Jun 10 2022 11:37 AM
Re: Happy Valentine's Week!

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote:


Edgy MD wrote:

I know Mo Vaughn wore it and stuff, but that uni Terry Collins is rocking didn't really do it for anybody, did it?


Agreed. I hate those unis. They're from when Disney owned the Angels for about five or six years. They did win their only WS, though, under Disney.


IMO maybe the worst MLB baseball uni ever


Could be.



Hey! There's another thread if someone wants to start it: ugliest baseball uniforms ever.

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 10 2022 11:58 AM
Re: Happy Valentine's Week!

The worst part of the uniform that Terry is wearing is the cap. Way too busy.



I kind of like the version that Jeff Torborg is wearing on the 1973 card. You don't often see the team name entirely in lower case. (I'm thinking maybe the Padres did it for a while?)



Also, I didn't realize that Jose Cardenal went all the way back to 1965.

Edgy MD
Jun 10 2022 12:06 PM
Re: Happy Valentine's Week!

Jack Fisher looked at Ellis Valentine's card and wondered where he could get a Mets —> Angels makeover even half as sweet as Ellis'.



https://img.comc.com/i/Baseball/1970/Topps---Base/684/Jack-Fisher.jpg?id=62124a22-a6ad-4f31-9c75-a79e3220d0a5&size=original>

Johnny Lunchbucket
Jun 10 2022 01:18 PM
Re: Happy Valentine's Week!

What's your favorite Angels look?



I grew up with the Gil Flores look so that's what I think of first:

http://img.comc.com/original/e11bff34-c662-4984-9b0e-b20357505a64.jpg>



But the Torborg look with the floating halo is probably more distinctive:



https://img.comc.com/i/Baseball/1973/O-Pee-Chee---Base/154/Jeff-Torborg.jpg?id=a7c736cd-5121-4320-a1d2-99d03bfd2870&size=original>



I've already said the Collins look is the worst ever in baseball.



Today they lean so hard into red it's admirable but also a little much. I also think they went too extreme on the number font but its not unhandsome.

Edgy MD
Jun 10 2022 09:41 PM
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There's an old dude down the first base line rocking one of the early Angels' halo hats. I want to hate on this, because it clearly didn't work, but I like that they embroidered it in there, rather than printing it or something, and that they went for something outside-the-box but on brand.



I give it a C or C+. Inspired but coming up short.



[fimg=500]https://farm1.static.flickr.com/215/497954445_34ef170338_o.jpg[/fimg]

batmagadanleadoff
Jun 11 2022 08:02 PM
Re: Happy Valentine's Week!

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote:

What's your favorite Angels look?



I grew up with the Gil Flores look so that's what I think of first:

http://img.comc.com/original/e11bff34-c662-4984-9b0e-b20357505a64.jpg>



But the Torborg look with the floating halo is probably more distinctive:



https://img.comc.com/i/Baseball/1973/O-Pee-Chee---Base/154/Jeff-Torborg.jpg?id=a7c736cd-5121-4320-a1d2-99d03bfd2870&size=original>



I've already said the Collins look is the worst ever in baseball.



Today they lean so hard into red it's admirable but also a little much. I also think they went too extreme on the number font but its not unhandsome.


My favorite Angels look? The unis the Angels wore in 1969 and 1970, that were pretty much, exact copies of the Mets contemporary home and road uniforms, but without any logos or wordmarks.





https://img.comc.com/i/Baseball/1970/Topps---Base/684/Jack-Fisher.jpg?id=62124a22-a6ad-4f31-9c75-a79e3220d0a5&size=original>



[fiMG=255]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52133200126_514e72d616_b.jpg[/fIMG]

seawolf17
Jun 12 2022 05:12 AM
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I realize this is me just being a baseball card pedant, but that Stuart isn't a real card; doesn't look right.

batmagadanleadoff
Jun 12 2022 07:51 AM
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=seawolf17 post_id=95697 time=1655032343 user_id=91]
I realize this is me just being a baseball card pedant, but that Stuart isn't a real card; doesn't look right.


Yeah, the Stuart is a fugazi. I should know that better than anyone.

MFS62
Jun 12 2022 07:57 AM
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Seeing Tom Seaver and Nolan Ryan on the same baseball card caused mixed emotions.

A true "what if".



Later

Johnny Lunchbucket
Jun 12 2022 10:46 AM
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The ones they wore last night looked good on the field-- as opposed to the Rockies, who looked better as a concept imo but kinda stupid in play

batmagadanleadoff
Jun 13 2022 09:43 AM
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https://img.comc.com/i/Baseball/2015/Topps---Originals-Buybacks/1976-276/Mickey-Scott.jpg?id=5aec530b-4732-48c0-b823-1f71086f4a7d&size=original>



Mickey Scott is one of two interlopers in this thread. Just snuck Scott in here.